The Syndicate

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:44 am Back into mafia retirement I go. You all thanks for the game.

Great game golden I really enjoyed playing with you

Remember I was left alive with a shit hole role so I could be pushed today.

Well. Friends. Enemies. Lovers.

It was an honor playing with you all.

Godspeed.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:57 pm i feel like you were telling the truth about your role porscha - it really was just a useless scum role, wasnt it?

-t

Wow you're gonna vote me out AND make me cry? Thanks

You'll see

You'll all see how useless I was

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:56 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 pm Dont ler dizzy sweet talk all of you into submission

But that's my favorite thing to do.

Winning GoC will be better in this 1 instance but I understand your feelings

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:55 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 pm Cfd dizzy promptly, comrades

I mean, the fact that you were all suggestions and question until half an hour before EoD, when you suddenly are convinced it's me

Well tbf I'm not that convinced but I gotta pick someone lol

Trying to be towny without agenda certainly didnt convince anyone now did it. Lmao

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:55 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 pm Cfd dizzy promptly, comrades

I mean, the fact that you were all suggestions and question until half an hour before EoD, when you suddenly are convinced it's me

Well tbf I'm not that convinced but I gotta pick someone lol

Imagine dizzy acting like he didnt know for sure what alignment guillo flipped

It's all a ruse!!

Dont ler dizzy sweet talk all of you into submission

Click the buttons! I implore you!

Cfd dizzy promptly, comrades

Although it would be equally as bad if I was wrong on dizzy and lived to lylo cuz that would just get thrown in my face

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:52 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:50 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:50 pm Dizzy isn't confirmed just see what happens!

I think I will be soon =p

What do you mean

Cuz flipping me isnt gonna confirm anyone lmfao

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:50 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:50 pm Dizzy isn't confirmed just see what happens!

I think I will be soon =p

What do you mean

I am sincerely and seriously asking why not just see what dizzy flips you know? It's what you're doing with me sooooo

Dizzy isn't confirmed just see what happens!

I am begging for me life

I'm sorry for yelling at you PC, I'm hangry and typing furiously on my phone with ice cold fingers and I worried I would get ML'd like this cuz that's just how I always unravel and I'm sad it is happening and it doesnt feel like I can do much about it

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:47 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:46 pm The fact that nobody really stood up for me (ty for trying pc) should be setting off alarm bells that it is not correct tbh

How so?

Lol that's just a general threadstate thing that honestly doesnt apply well here assuming there is in fact only 1 wolf but I'm using it anyway

The fact that nobody really stood up for me (ty for trying pc) should be setting off alarm bells that it is not correct tbh

What do you guys have to lose for voting dizzy over me? I think we should do that instead
I would like to try to win the game or suffer until tomorrow. Either way, Here's to Life

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:41 pm

Party Crashers on their way to DVC after throwing the game

-t

Just me on the way to dvc lmao

I finagled my way into getting my lunch for eod so I'll be here to harass you guys for voting me

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:31 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:30 pm I dont understand where the confusion is here. There is no "dizzy should be nk'd" there is only unknown information as to who will die and if dizzy were to die then you would not vote him off tomorrow. This is very simple and I dont know what the confusion is about

I think dizzy is wolf. I am saying if I die today. And dizzy does not tonight and makes it to lylo, he should be the wolf
Why would dizzy die or not die? I dont know

You are asking me impossible questions as if I can read the future and I'm getting frustrated

there is no unknown information. sloonei is peeked town. dizzy never gets nk'ed, sloonei does. so i am led to believe that you lied about the thought you had

-t

There is very obviously unknown information otherwise the game would already fucking be over. Please stop interacting with me because you're either nitpicking nonsense from me or you are trying to get me to "wolf slip" or some shit and either way it isnt productive when I'm already being majority voted

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:29 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:28 pm I think that almost all of dizzy's softs were plenty vague to allow more options to role claim later and there is no reason to not kill ender if he ends up on dizzy and say its town clearing now
Cuz if nobody voted dizzy hed be in here saying "ah well nobody wanted to vote me even though I asked to be voted!! Not my fault I'm not confirmed!!" Like. Come on

No. If I had not been able to prove my role, I would have been mischopped. Which is why I asked Guillo to save some time and kill me instead of death tunnelling me + spite

I think crying to be voted off because you're upset with guillo is also a good way to keep people from voting you because they will town read you for it. I mean I sure did

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:28 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:26 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:24 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:23 pm I think, if I go over today, and game goes into lylo tomorrow, and dizzy does not die, and some giant revelation is not revealed,,,,,,,,

Then you vote off dizzy

why do you think dizzy would die if he's town?

-t

Huh? I dont think dizzy is town but it's not like I cant be wrong

So that's the criteria that should be met to consider voting him off tomorrow. If there is a tomorrow at all

"I think, if I go over today, and game goes into lylo tomorrow, and dizzy does not die, and some giant revelation is not revealed,,,,,,,,"

"dizzy does not die" -> meaning "dizzy does not get nightkilled"

why did you have the thought that dizzy should be nightkilled tonight if you are town and get chopped? is that a real thought?

-t

I dont understand where the confusion is here. There is no "dizzy should be nk'd" there is only unknown information as to who will die and if dizzy were to die then you would not vote him off tomorrow. This is very simple and I dont know what the confusion is about

I think dizzy is wolf. I am saying if I die today. And dizzy does not tonight and makes it to lylo, he should be the wolf
Why would dizzy die or not die? I dont know

You are asking me impossible questions as if I can read the future and I'm getting frustrated

I think that almost all of dizzy's softs were plenty vague to allow more options to role claim later and there is no reason to not kill ender if he ends up on dizzy and say its town clearing now
Cuz if nobody voted dizzy hed be in here saying "ah well nobody wanted to vote me even though I asked to be voted!! Not my fault I'm not confirmed!!" Like. Come on

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:24 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:23 pm I think, if I go over today, and game goes into lylo tomorrow, and dizzy does not die, and some giant revelation is not revealed,,,,,,,,

Then you vote off dizzy

why do you think dizzy would die if he's town?

-t

Huh? I dont think dizzy is town but it's not like I cant be wrong

So that's the criteria that should be met to consider voting him off tomorrow. If there is a tomorrow at all

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:22 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:21 pmI'm gonna laugh so hard if it isnt you tho

But I think it's most likely you tho

It's not me. I don't understand how you would think it's me. Or how I'm apparently more opportunist than anyone else.

Well the riding the coat tails part. You only switched your "uwu never kill porscha" read from 2 days ago today when the pressure is now on and you have to pick people to target. Golden and sloonei and honestly myself have allowed you to do so quietly. I do not consider you confirmed and the possibility that you claimed ender kill as clearing is absolutely not clearing!

I think, if I go over today, and game goes into lylo tomorrow, and dizzy does not die, and some giant revelation is not revealed,,,,,,,,

Then you vote off dizzy

Would anyone like to stand up for dizzy?

Like you know what maybe guillo was right maybe you woofin cuz your only counter argument to him was saying his meta was incorrect, really

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:20 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:18 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:17 pmI have been watching you ride the coat tails of goldens posts about me being the last wolf and I think you're the opportunist

I'm riding Sloonei's tail tbh

Lol sure. Both of them

In response to calling out wolves who were wolfy early, I rarely hard push people I'm suspicious of early but it does always lend me a way to be called wolfy for it later like you did

You have taken the bait

I'm gonna laugh so hard if it isnt you tho

But I think it's most likely you tho

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:18 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:17 pmI have been watching you ride the coat tails of goldens posts about me being the last wolf and I think you're the opportunist

I'm riding Sloonei's tail tbh

Lol sure. Both of them

In response to calling out wolves who were wolfy early, I rarely hard push people I'm suspicious of early but it does always lend me a way to be called wolfy for it later like you did

You have taken the bait

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:07 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:59 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:56 pm I've been going back and forth in my mind so many times. Reading Porscha's iso, I feel better about my vote and not worse.

gah
I really don't think it's porscha tbh but I don't know who it is

~sheep

Why? Maybe I'm confbiasing, but in Porscha's iso in the beginning there was saying wolves were wolfy, but especially after the fact, when they had flipped. Some reads there that looked like tmi, but they weren't pushed. No real clearing interactions with wolves, not like I think you and Golden have. Later days there was some pushing on low posting slots like Guillo and Sloonei. Also her play around when SVS got shot was very weird. She wanted Michelle to shoot Ender for lols. And after SVS was shot, she told thread she would hopefully remember to vote, but it's entirely unclear why she didn't just do it there and then.

I mean, if Porscha is wolf, I think she's been more active than what I would expect of her and she has a consistent towny tone. But I don't think that's clearing compared to Golden. And I don't think it's you anymore, after your convo with Golden. So unless we're getting screwed by mechanics, it's Porscha.

I have been watching you ride the coat tails of goldens posts about me being the last wolf and I think you're the opportunist

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:07 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:59 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:56 pm I've been going back and forth in my mind so many times. Reading Porscha's iso, I feel better about my vote and not worse.

gah
I really don't think it's porscha tbh but I don't know who it is

~sheep

Why? Maybe I'm confbiasing, but in Porscha's iso in the beginning there was saying wolves were wolfy, but especially after the fact, when they had flipped. Some reads there that looked like tmi, but they weren't pushed. No real clearing interactions with wolves, not like I think you and Golden have. Later days there was some pushing on low posting slots like Guillo and Sloonei. Also her play around when SVS got shot was very weird. She wanted Michelle to shoot Ender for lols. And after SVS was shot, she told thread she would hopefully remember to vote, but it's entirely unclear why she didn't just do it there and then.

I mean, if Porscha is wolf, I think she's been more active than what I would expect of her and she has a consistent towny tone. But I don't think that's clearing compared to Golden. And I don't think it's you anymore, after your convo with Golden. So unless we're getting screwed by mechanics, it's Porscha.

I'm voting for you btw

Like in terms of golden, he could be telling half truths about his role. He did out right claim that's what he was doing early on, no problem dodge soup fool wolves yada yada

But if we are running on the premise that sig did in fact shoot alison, then goldens redirect story is actually unaccounted for and unconfirmed (disregarding reads in thread that seem to back up his point that he baited alison)
No other person he claimed to neighbor survived long enough to claim this was true (pot calling the kettle black here, I know)
And as I think... PC pushed him on earlier, about why would he try to neighbor neon and rondo, I felt like goldens reason were really half baked (like half baked enough that I thought maybe hes just town and didnt feel like he had to over justify his decisions) but maybe he really just didnt have a good answer and played it sly by letting it go by as if it wasnt a big deal or worth making a fuss about

Like idk man sometimes a game presents you an opportunity when you're wolfing and you take it and run with it and so far golden has Usain bolted with it wonderfully but how much can we really trust about his claim? What proof is there really? (I legitimately may be forgetting elements please let me know if I am)

Also I cant forget what may have been a pocket attempt when pc called golden an innocent child (I also feel like golden would know what an innocent child is but I didnt push it back then) and when I told golden to hold my hand he said he would

Most people refuse and or deny my attempts at affection or flirtation so for golden to respond to it very openly made me raise an eyebrow. Maybe twas pocket since I was shielding him at the time. Idk

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:50 pm I've laid out my reasons for town reading Golden. And I don't think you've interacted much with that either. Maybe you just disagree or think those aren't good reasons.

I probably didnt have much to say cuz I've been tr'ing golden since like day 2. I stuck up for him when others were more suspicious, even

So the trouble is that I'm largely tr'ing golden on multiple factors: his scuffle with mac had me trust reading him (not ideal for gameplay but that's the truth) and I felt he has done a good job sounding towny and solving without tmi
His role, while it gives him points, also is my biggest point of contention in how I feel about him
How convoluted it is, the parts he has said we dont know, the parts he has added on - it all makes sense and adds up enough, but maybe its ... made up or half truths. I dont know

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:48 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:46 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:43 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:38 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:37 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:31 pm I'm going to vote

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

And hope this is just it. It's not really shrug though. Golden and PC have more going for them

I personally believe I had quite a lot going for me but it has been literally ignored or not considered and to be quite honest i really really believe the wolf is only surviving by having a lie that sounds better than my truths

who is it then? why just tell us "huh, must suck. have fun"?

How the fuck would I know who it is? I'm very aware if I sat here making an hour long case against 1 of you I could maybe avoid this problem but it's literally impossible for me to do because of irl things and like I've done all day I have tried solving or asking questions and also not figured out where to go! That's why I said earlier if there was a consensus that would be almost improbable! I am just as confused and unsure like you and if you're town youd understand this is towny behavior
Rough cuz I assume the wolf is pretending to be confused too, but when I called golden out for making a somewhat real case against me and talking about me a bunch, it leads me right back to what I already said:
Wolf is under pressure
They cannot act confused as well as town will. They will need to choose targets
So if I see myself becoming a target
I follow it back
But nobody interacted with me on this
I think my logic is sound and followable but I can also see that mech and lies about mech are muddling the pool of potentials more than my viewpoints making logical town sense

my point largely is that if you are town, you are in a unique position of knowing for a fact everyone else is wrong

I'm not asking for a big case. just what your gut says. from your perspective, it is one of us. who do you pick?

See below. I've had this same perspective all day

Or above. Whatever I'm sleep deprived

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:46 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:43 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:38 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:37 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:31 pm I'm going to vote

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

And hope this is just it. It's not really shrug though. Golden and PC have more going for them

I personally believe I had quite a lot going for me but it has been literally ignored or not considered and to be quite honest i really really believe the wolf is only surviving by having a lie that sounds better than my truths

who is it then? why just tell us "huh, must suck. have fun"?

How the fuck would I know who it is? I'm very aware if I sat here making an hour long case against 1 of you I could maybe avoid this problem but it's literally impossible for me to do because of irl things and like I've done all day I have tried solving or asking questions and also not figured out where to go! That's why I said earlier if there was a consensus that would be almost improbable! I am just as confused and unsure like you and if you're town youd understand this is towny behavior
Rough cuz I assume the wolf is pretending to be confused too, but when I called golden out for making a somewhat real case against me and talking about me a bunch, it leads me right back to what I already said:
Wolf is under pressure
They cannot act confused as well as town will. They will need to choose targets
So if I see myself becoming a target
I follow it back
But nobody interacted with me on this
I think my logic is sound and followable but I can also see that mech and lies about mech are muddling the pool of potentials more than my viewpoints making logical town sense

my point largely is that if you are town, you are in a unique position of knowing for a fact everyone else is wrong

I'm not asking for a big case. just what your gut says. from your perspective, it is one of us. who do you pick?

See below. I've had this same perspective all day

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:41 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:39 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:28 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:25 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:19 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:57 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:07 am (I think the response of t!Porscha to the PC town clear is a dizzy vote not a golden tinfoil).

I am doing my due diligence here that's all this is

I'm obviously not using an agenda to push any specific player which at this point the wolf should be having to do a little more to cinch the ML and keep eyes off of them if they are subtle enough about it

So I'm sure you understand why I'm becoming a little more wary of you as you keep repeatedly posting about me and how I have to be the last wolf

I feel like you've been softly pushing towards me tbh. How would you rank your reads right now?

I honestly almost cant even rank them
I cannot logically find the most likely of which of you it is. Everyone feels almost as equally unlikely

I'm working today so I doubt I'll be here for eod. If I get chopped as a shrug yeet, which it looks like I will because everybody is actually in the same boat as me (confused- nobody feels like a good chop) then good luck to those who make it to lylo, you will have gained no further info from my flip and will be playing this day all over again with further pressure. I dont envy you

I do not feel like you would be a “shrug chop”. I have found reasons to town read everybody else that I feel reasonably good about. I have not found a reason to be as confident about you.

I frequently made posts about myself today that almost nobody or literally nobody interacted with and if you guys had read my ISO like you said you did you could find great reasons to tr me but I think half of the iso'ing that was done was cherry picked

But I dont have time to evaluate which one of you is the wolf doing this. You successfully waited until late enough into the day to start a legitimate push on me that I cant be here to figure out where the wolf musk is coming from

But I knew this would probably happen too. I already knew my role was trash compared to all of yours and I dont have any mech clear or kate/rondo shield to make me worthy but I couldnt wim it up enough today to beat those issues

gun to head (literally lol), who is it?

Honest to god I dont know. I think I'd have to go dizzy

But I dont recall sloonei claiming anything
Goldens role is stupid convoluted
Your role sounds like svs

It could be sloonei getting thru on mech rondo was sure he had
It could be golden came up with a fucking baller role claim early that hes been able to just add shit onto that sounds reasonable
Dizzy could be getting by on ate and convenience of enders vote last night
PC could have offed rondo as a level 1 play to wifom

Like if you do not know then I do not know why you expect me to pull an answer out of my ass just because I'm on the chopping block

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:38 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:37 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:31 pm I'm going to vote

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

And hope this is just it. It's not really shrug though. Golden and PC have more going for them

I personally believe I had quite a lot going for me but it has been literally ignored or not considered and to be quite honest i really really believe the wolf is only surviving by having a lie that sounds better than my truths

who is it then? why just tell us "huh, must suck. have fun"?

How the fuck would I know who it is? I'm very aware if I sat here making an hour long case against 1 of you I could maybe avoid this problem but it's literally impossible for me to do because of irl things and like I've done all day I have tried solving or asking questions and also not figured out where to go! That's why I said earlier if there was a consensus that would be almost improbable! I am just as confused and unsure like you and if you're town youd understand this is towny behavior
Rough cuz I assume the wolf is pretending to be confused too, but when I called golden out for making a somewhat real case against me and talking about me a bunch, it leads me right back to what I already said:
Wolf is under pressure
They cannot act confused as well as town will. They will need to choose targets
So if I see myself becoming a target
I follow it back
But nobody interacted with me on this
I think my logic is sound and followable but I can also see that mech and lies about mech are muddling the pool of potentials more than my viewpoints making logical town sense

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:28 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:25 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:19 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:57 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:07 am (I think the response of t!Porscha to the PC town clear is a dizzy vote not a golden tinfoil).

I am doing my due diligence here that's all this is

I'm obviously not using an agenda to push any specific player which at this point the wolf should be having to do a little more to cinch the ML and keep eyes off of them if they are subtle enough about it

So I'm sure you understand why I'm becoming a little more wary of you as you keep repeatedly posting about me and how I have to be the last wolf

I feel like you've been softly pushing towards me tbh. How would you rank your reads right now?

I honestly almost cant even rank them
I cannot logically find the most likely of which of you it is. Everyone feels almost as equally unlikely

I'm working today so I doubt I'll be here for eod. If I get chopped as a shrug yeet, which it looks like I will because everybody is actually in the same boat as me (confused- nobody feels like a good chop) then good luck to those who make it to lylo, you will have gained no further info from my flip and will be playing this day all over again with further pressure. I dont envy you

I do not feel like you would be a “shrug chop”. I have found reasons to town read everybody else that I feel reasonably good about. I have not found a reason to be as confident about you.

I frequently made posts about myself today that almost nobody or literally nobody interacted with and if you guys had read my ISO like you said you did you could find great reasons to tr me but I think half of the iso'ing that was done was cherry picked

But I dont have time to evaluate which one of you is the wolf doing this. You successfully waited until late enough into the day to start a legitimate push on me that I cant be here to figure out where the wolf musk is coming from

But I knew this would probably happen too. I already knew my role was trash compared to all of yours and I dont have any mech clear or kate/rondo shield to make me worthy but I couldnt wim it up enough today to beat those issues

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:31 pm I'm going to vote

[VOTE: Porscha] aubergine

And hope this is just it. It's not really shrug though. Golden and PC have more going for them

I personally believe I had quite a lot going for me but it has been literally ignored or not considered and to be quite honest i really really believe the wolf is only surviving by having a lie that sounds better than my truths

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:27 pm a remarkably SVS-esque post

How in any way is that svs-esque

What about what I said is untrue from my perspective

I am as golden said. The least towny feeling / sounding

I'm not pulling quotes out of my ass to try and make up points against anyone here cuz I dont have agenda or wim

My role claim sucks nuts but is very similar to and basic like enders

Anytime I ask a question its responded to as if I made the question in bad faith when I dont feel like others are receiving this treatment

The only thing you can do post flip, assuming game doesnt end, is try to figure out if the person who pushed me the hardest is the wolf or if the wolf coasted onto the read

I am currently hiding in the bathroom to avoid my big boss and post because I'm committed to this game but I am extremely unable to sit here for hours and probe ISO's or be time sensitively responsive so I am giving what I can give

If there is a lylo tomorrow: godspeed, brothers. Whoever makes it that far

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:19 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:57 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:07 am (I think the response of t!Porscha to the PC town clear is a dizzy vote not a golden tinfoil).

I am doing my due diligence here that's all this is

I'm obviously not using an agenda to push any specific player which at this point the wolf should be having to do a little more to cinch the ML and keep eyes off of them if they are subtle enough about it

So I'm sure you understand why I'm becoming a little more wary of you as you keep repeatedly posting about me and how I have to be the last wolf

I feel like you've been softly pushing towards me tbh. How would you rank your reads right now?

I honestly almost cant even rank them
I cannot logically find the most likely of which of you it is. Everyone feels almost as equally unlikely

I'm working today so I doubt I'll be here for eod. If I get chopped as a shrug yeet, which it looks like I will because everybody is actually in the same boat as me (confused- nobody feels like a good chop) then good luck to those who make it to lylo, you will have gained no further info from my flip and will be playing this day all over again with further pressure. I dont envy you

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:01 am Not really here but

Is there anyway to game mechanics to lock the game or save time or is it too risky? If PC is telling the truth, they are chop proof, we would need two rounds to chop them. Going PC doesn't even lose if town, probably? And if they are mafia lying, then lol. Golden claims he can protect from NK, if I understood that correctly? Porscha claims to give out something, but nobody has gotten anything? Can this be confirmed. Sloonei is confirmed town anyway, unless Rondo has been lying, which I'm not even going to consider an option. This is really half baked

In theory going PC doesnt lose us the game but if we happened to be in lylo then it would

Golden can only protect against nk on his own neighbors if he has 2 neighbors which he does not

Yes your question in me is accurate, please refer to my post asking ender if received my email to which he confirms he did not, I also dont know that mac happened to mention recieving anything day 2 or not

I think sloonei is only wolf not from rondo lying but from unknown mechanics screwing up rondos check

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 8:03 am Every time I'm thinking about the game it goes from thinking everyone is town to everyone being possible mafia and back again. I really want to trust Golden. That's the read I'm banking on

Why not pc or sloonei?

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:50 am However...

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:26 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:04 am This is a townderp.

If it’s 4v1, it’s not lylo but chopping the wolf still ends the game.

I think PC would be viscerally aware of this if wolf.

As pc said, I'm also impressed.

So impressed I have to ask why you seemed so aware of it?

This is the post of someone who is feeling cornered.

The language of "I have to ask you" is so contrived... it's like a cartoon pointing finger.

It accepts at face value the PC town clear, but ignores all of the build up.

Tutuu was impressed because I baited her into a townclear, and she could see my working.

I'm not baiting Tutuu into a townclear, based on info that (outside of PC) only I possess, if wolf, at final 5. That's just not happening.

Mhm. I didnt see it as a bait. I was impressed you noticed the mindset slips and because I didnt, I wondered why you were so keen to catch it

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:07 am (I think the response of t!Porscha to the PC town clear is a dizzy vote not a golden tinfoil).

Also lol @ this being a similar post to pc refering to my very simple and not shading question as "shading"

Yeah that's me the guy trying to make sure we arent letting ppl slide by, must be wolfing lmao

If we arent asking questions and covering bases then wtf are we doing? Not doing due diligence

Like there is a lot of pressure here. If we can find someone today that there is even a remote sense of consensus on, it will be a miracle

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:44 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:35 am The other possibility here is it genuinely is PC and I’m clearing them for the wrong reasons. But that just seems so unlikely.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:39 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:37 am

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:35 am The other possibility here is it genuinely is PC and I’m clearing them for the wrong reasons. But that just seems so unlikely.

I also am about 85% in the camp of clearing Party Crasher for several strong but not rock-solid reasons, and 15% wondering if I'm making a mistake there.

But if they’ve been honest, we can only pop them without their best stepping in at lylo and I’m quite convinced there isn’t a pair here… everyone is paranoid of everyone.

Golden wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:41 am Actually I just went back and read my own role.

It’s not lylo.

It’s if it ends the game. So if pc is the last wolf I think one shot would kill them.

Here's my progression, over the course of 6 minutes.

"Gah, Porscha does feel town, maybe I should tinfoil PC"
"Nah, even if its PC, elimming them today is pointless"
"Wait... I don't think my role actually said lylo, I should check."
"No, it doesn't, it says if it ends the game, and I think there's only one wolf, so I don't need to worry about their vest."

Pretty basic thought process, actually. One PC didn't independently think through specifically because they (unlike me) didn't actually have to solve 'what do we do about the person who survives an elim'.

Mmm... it makes more sense when I consider you also have a vest and I do not