The Syndicate

I am scheduled to wake up after eod I'm pretty sure, so unless I happen to wake up early, I'm leaving my vote on falcon and I still believe in the read

I *understood* the "effort tell" comment made about 112, but iirc, 112's activity levels are often determined by outside influence, so unless I'm missing critical effort tell 112 lore, then I'm inclined to consider it nai

Sorry lily I know you asked about my 112 read but my brain kinda gave up on me

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:42 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:38 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:18 am Okies but like... why are we not just killing Martin though?
eh
Like... his content is just there... it's just kinda lacking... this is not the Martin I remember.

Is there a reason I shouldn't think this?

I also dont really remember what his posts entailed but I felt more null than like, scummy vibes? I feel like maybe he mentioned he was posting less cuz of something irl so my brain just put him to the side. I wonder if that actually happened or if I'm thinking of Sean's thing

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:33 am ]I guess maybe I'll bother doing this since I'm bored and don't want to do my job and I'm feeling a little better

Thanks lily I love you I miss you uwu and stuff

It's Abigail's super awesome I'm so good at mafia legacy list extraordinaire. Starring me the cutest to ever do it.

First up the best flavor of Coke ever.

Lime Coke - wells wells wells Bread is town as ever. I mean I largely found bread off the aggro but I think since than his defense of Porscha and general attitude is just like towny. Town Core and move on with your life.

Next up

nutella - This peanut butter rip off was a hard nut to Crack. God I'm so funny. Anyways I have a power read that the first line super big in thread back and forth blow up is ALWAYS town vs town. And I know what you're thinking. Abigail this read is dumb but go read like champs G1 Clouds vs The X where I used this read. Or SPF vs Twice Shrunk in some game I don't remember where I used this read. Or Achro vs someone in some game I don't remember where I used this read or Caitlin vs someone in a few games where I used this read. Or... anyways also I actually do just kinda feel like Nuts solving is the best in this game right now and that they actually care about searching for alignment through their play instead of just pushing empty. Town Core and move on

Next up

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - do I have a good reason to town lean nook? Uh not really actually. I kinda was just basing the read off general early vibes and similar feelings about the game and flipless and set up and... yeah honestly Nook can probs be scum? Fuck if I know. I won't cry if Nook dies and I wouldn't be shocked either way

Next!

MartinG99 - I honestly don't remember much. I know Martin has made some big posts I read through but they didn't make me feel warm and fuzzy in my tum tum. They made me feel bored and lonely in my head. Scum lean.

Okay get in line. Next...

Seanzie - meh like they've been active? And it's been okay? But also like they are asking for a D3 pass? And that's pretty not okay? So kill them I guess? But like meh? Scum lean.

Next...

Lilypetal - lily was the first to move the game forward towards a solve in a meaningful way IMHO her solving is real and she's not pushing an agenda but trying to find players. Good good yes. She is trying to keep the thread in a positive place and pushing towards a solution to the game. Yes yes. She lock town just set it and forget it.

Next...lols Porschas name is misspelled in the player list

Proscha - town cause like frustration is towny. I do think she genuinely feels like falcon is bad and nobody is trying to solve that even though like he's top wagon. I don't like fully disagree. Also read what I said about T v T fights early in the Nutella run down. Copy paste. Lock it in and move on town cccccore.

Next

falcon45ca - I dunno bruh like Falcon is so hard for me to read and honestly I'm fine killing him I don't have a good reason other than I simply do not town read him. I think his play feels like it did in the first game I saw wolf falcon where half the game was calling him outed wolf and half the game was hard defending him and one player was hard pushing getting annoyed and getting extremely frustrated... kill with impunity.

Next

☆Princess Abigail☆ - I'm in my town meta

Next

112 - the omgus naked vote on me never comes from a wolf. Like a wolf wants to stay alive andthey would fake a case on me... it wouldn't even be that hard. Town lean.

Next

dokidoki - my mason is towny AF pure and goated. Read the posts show me the agenda. Show me the baddddd I don't see it. So pure so town so real. Town Core it bb.

Next

DrWilgy - I dunno like I feel like wolf Wilgy would be just burned out after Cyberpunk I feel like the posts are fine but I'm not like feeling anything from them. I wanna town lean Wilgy but part of that is just cause I do that with people I consider my friends when I'm not sure I dunno you tell me

I'm wrong on 1 max in town core in most cases

Everything else is like much more swingywhen it comes to me

I like this post a lot, but why are you saying you cant read falcon well when you've said in some other semi recent games, as both alignments, that you're really good at reading falcon? Where did this change come from?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:05 am reads on dokidoki?

thats who I forgot about. I think town lean but pretty null for me rn

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:54 am Porscha, who do you consider town this game?

idk probably like you and lily and zenon, wilgy can have tl, 112 participation was good and nothing pinged me, i'm sure i'm forgetting about the other half of the game rn cuz I got sucked into who was here with me. not falcon or nook or nutella. martin and sean null

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:53 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:52 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:51 am can we get some good vibes ill put good vibes in

im so fucking happy rn uwu
is this the truth or are you lying
truth! im having a great night

and im happy to be in a mafia game especially with u

*grumble grumble* ... <3

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:51 am can we get some good vibes ill put good vibes in

im so fucking happy rn uwu

is this the truth or are you lying

I normally have to defend falcon as lhf most game is what I meant

can someone please town case falcon. I normally have to defend him as lhf this game. and yet I feel he hasn't been towny and I would never defend him. I am calling upon the town to show up and make arguments. please

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:22 am We don't need lecturing in tilting.

We need lecturing in Standards and Practices and the importance of it.

god give me that s&p. please. i'm begging

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:14 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:58 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:57 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:42 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:18 am I did this entire catch up and nothing changed at all omgggg
really? absolutely no opinion on me entering the game with strong opinions on falcon and the people who have scumread me for it? like nothing?
No not really. If I had something to say on it I would have. It's a T v T slap fight. So like... but it took me a minute to realize that. I've got a pet read that you won't believe for why it's T v T so I'd rather just not vocalize it
t v t between me and nutella? please try convincing me?
Okay how much did you pay attention to champs game 1...?

I dont watch mafia games I'm not in

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 2:13 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:57 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:56 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:54 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:49 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:35 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:02 am

Porscha I love you be my friend again this thread is booooooooring at the only times I can play
I never stopped being your friend and frankly i'm mildly tilted so I may or may not be super active the rest of the time i'm awake
*hugs* I'm sorry... if it helps I actually think your town but it probably doesn't help

Vote: Falcon
well like, with that post you asked "which porscha is this" it definitely implied you thought this was wolf porscha, so i'm sort of confused by your read on me
it did not, actually
CoOl,ThAtS jUsT yOuR oPiNiOn
I love you porscha...I'm sorry everyone pissed you off and I understand why. Pls take a breath though

leave me alone man just stop typing to me

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:58 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:45 am there's literally like no way it's all just in nook nutella zenon lily. not possible. so some of you need to stop wolf siding and please apply some thoughtful effort
It's actually insane to me that you're so tilted that this is where you go...

If any one in this list is a wolf it's probably Lily maybe Nook but I'd kinda put it at like 0 for 4

The only reason I'd even entertain lily at all is because she voted you after hard town reading you all phase but like I actually just don't think that's wolfy

well lily didn't hard town read me all phase leading into the vote, but I will not entertain you lecturing me on the subject of being tilted so please dont start

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:58 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:45 am there's literally like no way it's all just in nook nutella zenon lily. not possible. so some of you need to stop wolf siding and please apply some thoughtful effort
It's actually insane to me that you're so tilted that this is where you go...

If any one in this list is a wolf it's probably Lily maybe Nook but I'd kinda put it at like 0 for 4

The only reason I'd even entertain lily at all is because she voted you after hard town reading you all phase but like I actually just don't think that's wolfy

well lily didn't hard town read me all phase leading into the vote, but I will not entertain you lecturing me on the subject of being tilted so please dont start

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:57 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:42 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:18 am I did this entire catch up and nothing changed at all omgggg
really? absolutely no opinion on me entering the game with strong opinions on falcon and the people who have scumread me for it? like nothing?
No not really. If I had something to say on it I would have. It's a T v T slap fight. So like... but it took me a minute to realize that. I've got a pet read that you won't believe for why it's T v T so I'd rather just not vocalize it

t v t between me and nutella? please try convincing me?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:56 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:54 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:49 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:35 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:02 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:10 pm I hope I have a poggers track tonight, good luck to the wolves since falcon can't carry the nk when he is voted off
Porscha I love you be my friend again this thread is booooooooring at the only times I can play
I never stopped being your friend and frankly i'm mildly tilted so I may or may not be super active the rest of the time i'm awake
*hugs* I'm sorry... if it helps I actually think your town but it probably doesn't help

Vote: Falcon
well like, with that post you asked "which porscha is this" it definitely implied you thought this was wolf porscha, so i'm sort of confused by your read on me
it did not, actually

CoOl,ThAtS jUsT yOuR oPiNiOn

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:54 am i have been one of the more active players in this game, what are you talking about?

i even made a post listing my read on every player after reading every iso

lol

I meant in general. nothing to do with this game. your "outed" post about me was a bit ridiculous, however, I am also tentatively allowing it, since you think that as a wolf I just make 4 posts and then get so frozen in a shitty threadstate that I ghost the game entirely, but whatever, i'll keep letting you do your thing

dont know how or why you agreed with nutella's post on me though

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:49 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:35 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:02 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:10 pm I hope I have a poggers track tonight, good luck to the wolves since falcon can't carry the nk when he is voted off
Porscha I love you be my friend again this thread is booooooooring at the only times I can play
I never stopped being your friend and frankly i'm mildly tilted so I may or may not be super active the rest of the time i'm awake
*hugs* I'm sorry... if it helps I actually think your town but it probably doesn't help

Vote: Falcon

well like, with that post you asked "which porscha is this" it definitely implied you thought this was wolf porscha, so i'm sort of confused by your read on me

there's literally like no way it's all just in nook nutella zenon lily. not possible. so some of you need to stop wolf siding and please apply some thoughtful effort

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:18 am I did this entire catch up and nothing changed at all omgggg

really? absolutely no opinion on me entering the game with strong opinions on falcon and the people who have scumread me for it? like nothing?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:40 am My effort will be going into hard shielding Porscha this game because I feel like it.

well someone has to

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:35 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:13 am
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:22 pm [VOTE: princess abigail] aubergine
Mmm I do love me some naked omgus
Another fun fact. Naked omgus votes are often towny so... kinda actually feel like I'm just wrong on 112 which is fun but also annoying.

112 has a town lean from me

I was giving lily the benefit of the doubt more than nook or nutella of course, because she hasn't been playing much, but nutella and nook are NOT being towny outside of their posts about me AND they are making the most limp dick scum reads on me I have ever witnessed

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:35 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:15 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:32 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:28 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:18 pm nutella are you gonna town case falcon? is that what this is about?
IT WAS ME PORSCHA
well I do appreciate your response that contained more than 6 words and had cohesive reasoning behind it in an attempt to drive the game forward
Hmmmm
So fun fact. I think.

Town Porscha gets snippy at being read wrong and attacks the people incorrectly reading her

Wolf Porscha gets snippy through shade about things that aren't necessarily pertinent.

She's attacked me for past game mistakes exclusively as wolf.

Which version of Porscha is this?

I already know which one you think this is and in fact it *is* pertinent because it's me passive aggressively telling nutella to play the game with any kind of fervor instead of bullshit 6 word responses to scum reading me. town should not allow this play to be rewarded, but lily sure did for no reason she bothered explaining and probably won't explain and won't be held accountable for day 2 when she inevitably doesnt die cuz now I have to worry she is wolfing too

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:02 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:10 pm I hope I have a poggers track tonight, good luck to the wolves since falcon can't carry the nk when he is voted off
Porscha I love you be my friend again this thread is booooooooring at the only times I can play

I never stopped being your friend and frankly i'm mildly tilted so I may or may not be super active the rest of the time i'm awake

like is anyone going to fucking make an argument against my falcon read or just keep calling it fake and made up? calling it fake and made up implies you town read falcon, so fight my accusations for fucks sake

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:19 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:54 am Porscha felt to me like she was feigning town eagerness. The falcon certainty seemed overstated and the reasoning was conveniently prepared with an example and it just came across to me as trying too hard to make a read and appear uninformed yet confident
you're my bestie this game

[VOTE: porscha] aubergine

yeah town never winning another game on the syndicate this year at this rate

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:54 am Porscha felt to me like she was feigning town eagerness. The falcon certainty seemed overstated and the reasoning was conveniently prepared with an example and it just came across to me as trying too hard to make a read and appear uninformed yet confident

i'm put off by the fact you didn't respond to me about your sus and are appealing to a general audience. the read was less than 3 sentences with general reasons as to why I scum read him, so I dont know why you say it was overstated.

is it townier to just make a read and never explain why?

k I think like, nutella falcon and nook are all really stinky

imo sean is in wolf and town range rn, hard judgment call to make exactly

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:35 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:34 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:32 pm I may be biased on that regard but we go with it.
are you sufficiently pocketed by my defense of you
Yes and I accept it.

you're being such a good boy bradley

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:32 pm I may be biased on that regard but we go with it.

are you sufficiently pocketed by my defense of you

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:28 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:18 pm nutella are you gonna town case falcon? is that what this is about?
IT WAS ME PORSCHA

well I do appreciate your response that contained more than 6 words and had cohesive reasoning behind it in an attempt to drive the game forward

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:28 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:05 pm I used to catch wolf falcon explicitly on if he omgus'd early and he did it again here this game already, of course it's mixed in with him throwing shit at the wall and going nowhere with any of his reads that he is forced to change constantly because there is no actual depth to said reads, and this is why he is a wolf
I don't think that's how you catch w falcon. I've experimented that before and yeeted a t falcon upon him omgusing me. I think omgus is NAI for the slot.

Seanzie put it like this a game or two ago and I don't think anyone else has put it in words that are as correct as this:
'I agree about Falcon. There are some things in their ISO that are strong town!Falcon indicators. Little ways that they nitpick things and sharp little pushes here and there that they have a hard time replicating as scum.'

I do not think the deliberation with 112 was scum falcon.

I do not care one bit about 112 being involved in the read, all of falcon's posts up until the last 3 were not town falcon, there was no real curiosity, he omgus'd multiple times, he is constantly changing reads and his reads are shallow. I will cash app you $20 USD if this is town falcon

how are the vibes off?

how does it feel fabricated? I made a very short case, if you have a part of it you disagree with, then please explain

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 11:22 pm your posts

they bad

like

elaborate

nutella are you gonna town case falcon? is that what this is about?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 10:59 pm [VOTE: porscha ] aubergine

yeah nah this ain't it

huh?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 4:52 pm Wilgy is serial killer coded
Nook is putting a lot of nuance into his posts and not just throwing shit around so I'm going to town lean
I feel like abigail is maybe hiding in fluffposting too much so leaning wolf there atm but it's like very slight she's not really done much AI

please point to the nuance in nook's posts

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:00 pm i could definitely see a Lime yeet

veto'd

signed, proscha

I used to catch wolf falcon explicitly on if he omgus'd early and he did it again here this game already, of course it's mixed in with him throwing shit at the wall and going nowhere with any of his reads that he is forced to change constantly because there is no actual depth to said reads, and this is why he is a wolf

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 2:27 pm W Falc doesn't push 112 for hedging, make a mistake about the pr tell by not reading the opening, then go back on said push because the inquiry was found to be an exact response to something, ONLY then to continue arguing that the hedge still existed.

It's too snapish. W Falcon is not snappy lol.

yeah he is

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:06 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:24 pm Nutella and 112 min one mafia in it

Porscha sadly >rand mafia

Everyone else needs to talk to each other more so we can form better pairing reads
Why on porscha? I thought her out-of-the-loop-ness on the setup was slightly >rand town but probably shouldn't weigh it much. Dunno what else to go off on her right now or what else you might be seeing

well as it turned out I wasn't confused, wilgy just made a comment that implied I was

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:30 pmwhat

hey

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:51 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:09 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:54 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:26 pm Since there seems to be some talk about the Lawyer's ability and I realize that it might not be as clear as it could be on the rolecard.
The Lawyer's ability behaves the same as a night action, the effect of neighborizing someone happens at the end of the dayphase not as soon as a target is submitted.
The Lawyer can freely change targets up until the end of the day.
This is false advertising and I will be contacting my other lawyer
did you say something disparaging about me? I saw martin say he won't abide your generalizations about me
I said you might be mafia but I don't like saying it

you're a dirty filthy liar... I know you liked saying it, picking on lil ole low hanging fruit like me

dokidoki wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 9:15 pm Hey Porscha, thoughts on Wilgy?

would need to read him, I will try to review iso quick, i am unlikely to ever catch wilgy early though so I usually reserve thoughts on him until later

I hope I have a poggers track tonight, good luck to the wolves since falcon can't carry the nk when he is voted off

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:54 pm
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:26 pm Since there seems to be some talk about the Lawyer's ability and I realize that it might not be as clear as it could be on the rolecard.
The Lawyer's ability behaves the same as a night action, the effect of neighborizing someone happens at the end of the dayphase not as soon as a target is submitted.
The Lawyer can freely change targets up until the end of the day.
This is false advertising and I will be contacting my other lawyer

did you say something disparaging about me? I saw martin say he won't abide your generalizations about me

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