The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 11:54 pm @Porscha we had conflict (who was overreacting? ) early on. Was that all real, or was there a Wolf aspect woven in?

I was legitimately confused lol. honest to god I wasn't thinking of rondo's post as the premise for the over reacting at all

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:09 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:08 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 4:01 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:01 am Oh I didn't see the SR!
Yeah, for a while I thought that stood for Scumread

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 31, 2023 9:01 am Scotty, please share your targets
N0: pyxxy and LC - “no success”
N1: tutuu and Robyn - “success”
N2: Abigail and DM - “success, sort-of”
Wait I just realized I targeted both mafia on N1 and don’t know what actually happened.
Scotty has been silenced they cannot post or vote.

falcon was killed.

Stuff was switched but had zero bearing.
So I was successful, so I know I wasn’t blocked. But stuff was switched with zero bearing. Robyn was the one that killed, so it would seem to me that tutuu was targeting falcon to block, therefore I switched the kill onto falcon. And Robyn must have been trying to kill me, since I was silenced.

I don’t actually know what happened there
*ebwop LC > falcon

we couldn't target you for a kill after you were silenced. that counted as double targeting. tutuu had to panic choose falcon as the night kill because we were not aware of the no double targeting rule. (and not even single role double targeting - like sure, I can't just continuously keep silencing the same person, but we couldn't silence you n1 and then kill you n2 either.) so we tried to kill mac the night after failing the silence on him the night prior. we had submitted the actions with 14-16 hours before start of day and with less than 20 minutes before start of day we were told we could not target mac again and had to rechoose our kill or not get a kill that night. roxy was generous in that she gave us extra time to make a choice, and luckily 1 wolf was awake to do this, but submitting actions well over 12 hours in advance and only finding out about the double target rule with 20 minutes before day start was really unfortunate. no double targeting rule and it's specifications should be announced in set up, ideally.

and I know we were all very busy with the holidays and what not, but it's also really frustrating for your mafia team to have questions or submit actions and not get responses for very long periods of time and then get boned by that absence. I do appreciate roxy trying to make it up to us with little things like the info she gave that leetic mentioned should not have been given, but it was just really difficult. and my ability was heavily nullified by the open nights and no double targeting including not just individual targeting, but also targeting by other abilities or night kills. there is little incentive to silence someone if at any point you think you may want to night kill them the next night, and it closes off a lot of options and generally confirms that person as town without the ability to kill them afterwards. my role was theoretically strong - but it ended up hurting us without knowing about the double targeting issue in advance and how it confirmed players later without us being able to night kill said confirmed players. so it really left us with a single roleblock ability stacked against the rest of town's abilities. in another world this set up could have worked out with some tweaks, I think.

regardless - thank you roxy for spending time creating and hosting (even during the busy holidays!) and trying to make it work out. and thank you fingersplints for helping out in maf chat and in thread. nook - thanks for existing ;p

though, might I add, some of the town players made it needlessly difficult to find each other... but it was fun until we couldn't win anymore hahah! GG

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:02 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:57 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:55 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:36 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:34 pm so who was saved last night?
well technically lc had a double protect on you and mac
damn he used them both?!
one of them came from his role, the other came from an in-thread trivia event where he answered some question about the movie this game is based off of and won another doctor action
he used the one he gained on himself no?
I just didnt think he could double night action, but its moot because they tried to kill me anyway

no we tried killing mac lol

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:00 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:56 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:55 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:36 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:34 pm so who was saved last night?
well technically lc had a double protect on you and mac
damn he used them both?!
yuh
rip. Good attempted entrance Porscha btw better luck next time

meh, "good" is a stretch lol, I was really not thinking it would fool anyone but it is what it is

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:55 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:36 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:34 pm so who was saved last night?
well technically lc had a double protect on you and mac
damn he used them both?!

yuh

it would be pretty funny

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:36 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:35 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:31 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:14 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:13 pm I am also irritated the tutuu stole macs profile picture.
game is over
oh LOL
I literally pinged you bruv
yeah nah I didnt want spoils so I could react in real time to what things were being said. Discord ping would have worked

I have to add you on my new discord account lol

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:35 pm was I right that Neon was a protective role?

dont think so

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:34 pm so who was saved last night?

well technically lc had a double protect on you and mac

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:31 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:14 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 8:13 pm I am also irritated the tutuu stole macs profile picture.
game is over
oh LOL

I literally pinged you bruv

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:41 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:39 pm this no double targetting rule pulled the rug under us

it extended to all wolf actions. not just for each individual one

we attempted to silence mac n0. which meant we couldnt touch him n1 even if we wanted to

that extended to all of our abilities and nk, against all players
LMAOOOOOOOOOOO i just realized

realized what

mods sleep

this guy

wow can't believe he didnt fall for it

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:18 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:16 pm i think i should out my role

i am the grinch

i targeted robyn last night. i cursed them with the affliction that they need to "ruin christmas"

i dont know what this means but i thought it would be funny

anyway looks like robyn is forced to lie about me being mafia with them. im not. im innocent town. robyn might be town too

i think we have a good case that leetic is mafia
Respect for still trying to salvage this I guess

we aren't

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:16 pm i think i should out my role

i am the grinch

i targeted robyn last night. i cursed them with the affliction that they need to "ruin christmas"

i dont know what this means but i thought it would be funny

anyway looks like robyn is forced to lie about me being mafia with them. im not. im innocent town. robyn might be town too

i think we have a good case that leetic is mafia

oh true we should all vote leetic

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:02 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 7:00 pm @RondoDimBuckle stop backreading you baboon you won the game hahaha
i wonder how accurate his reads will be by the time he catches up

who wants to make a bet?

i bet he will suspect ... 1 wolf

anyone wanna bet on 0 or 2 or 3?

i'll take the over on 1

@RondoDimBuckle stop backreading you baboon you won the game hahaha

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:23 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:23 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:19 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:15 pm Stunned into silence by my immaculate take eh?
immaculately incorrect lol but I can see why you'd consider that
well if we flip you first we will know for sure so we can just do that lol
that's not true, there is a possibility leetic is town and something else fucky wucky has occurred

I don't believe that, but it is possible. and flipping me won't resolve him. he will keep up the same argument even if you flip me
nah I'll happily just take you as w/t and lose to such fuckery... sometimes games are just too hard otherwise

I hate your decision but I understand it
as long as you avenge me

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:19 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:18 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:15 pm Stunned into silence by my immaculate take eh?
immaculately incorrect lol but I can see why you'd consider that
well if we flip you first we will know for sure so we can just do that lol

that's not true, there is a possibility leetic is town and something else fucky wucky has occurred

I don't believe that, but it is possible. and flipping me won't resolve him. he will keep up the same argument even if you flip me

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 6:15 pm Stunned into silence by my immaculate take eh?

immaculately incorrect lol but I can see why you'd consider that

god that quote is cursed

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:59 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:58 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:55 pmsc2 witch
I don't know this term.
its a 3p redirector

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:58 pm I believe that I prevented the nightkill by protecting the two most mech-scary players last night. No proof, but it makes the most sense.

elaborate please

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:55 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:52 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:50 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:00 pm This will be an interesting game; I'll have to sort the truth from the lies!
I fucking softed in the ninth post of the game. You really think this is some sort of convoluted gambit to claim my teammate's role?
look. I don't have the exact answer as to what your role is or how it is being used. maybe you are some oracle / mod post role. but you also visited mac. who roleblocks visitors. and there was also no night kill. what else am I supposed to believe happened here?
I did not visit anybody. The only way this works if if you're lying or there is a manipulative role in play.

there is a possibility there is something like a sc2 witch in play, I just really doubt it since scotty has some weird semi redirect role already. I get you have to say you didn't visit anyone, but I know you did in fact visit mac last night

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:50 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:00 pm This will be an interesting game; I'll have to sort the truth from the lies!
I fucking softed in the ninth post of the game. You really think this is some sort of convoluted gambit to claim my teammate's role?

look. I don't have the exact answer as to what your role is or how it is being used. maybe you are some oracle / mod post role. but you also visited mac. who roleblocks visitors. and there was also no night kill. what else am I supposed to believe happened here?

I assume I do see all visits including night kills

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:46 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:46 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:45 pm Porscha town leetic mod poster

Bet
mod poster?
I posited some time ago that Leetics reliance on mod posts to defend themself is in fact a mafia role that allows them to make mod posts

okay but would that role allow him to still visit? If the wolves have abilities they can use AND submit the night kill then it still doesn't prevent leetic from having visited mac to make the kill

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:44 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:43 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:41 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:40 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:40 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:39 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:38 pm

There's a simple solution: don't fakeclaim!
is that advice to yourself xd
It's wisdom from the Oracle; you better heed it
sorry, I only heed feedback from the host
And my role is host-confirmed, so…
okay if I take your word on this, all it does is confirm there is an oracle. not that YOU are the oracle
No one cc'd me lol

yes as we all know, cc's always happen right away cleanly and promptly and also never amongst teammates

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:45 pm Porscha town leetic mod poster

Bet

mod poster?

ok. I am under the impression mac's role is something like "roleblock ppl who try to commit an action towards you" yes?

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:41 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:40 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:40 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:39 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:38 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:38 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:37 pm

Also, super convenient you tracked the one person who can't dispute your claim
it's actually very inconvenient for me
There's a simple solution: don't fakeclaim!
is that advice to yourself xd
It's wisdom from the Oracle; you better heed it
sorry, I only heed feedback from the host
And my role is host-confirmed, so…

okay if I take your word on this, all it does is confirm there is an oracle. not that YOU are the oracle

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:40 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:39 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:38 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:38 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:37 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:25 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:24 pm

Other tracks from previous nights?
I am a 2 shot, holstered n0 and tracked falcon n1 - he didnt move
Also, super convenient you tracked the one person who can't dispute your claim
it's actually very inconvenient for me
There's a simple solution: don't fakeclaim!
is that advice to yourself xd
It's wisdom from the Oracle; you better heed it

sorry, I only heed feedback from the host

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:38 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:36 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:36 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:32 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:31 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:30 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:29 pm very good defense!
Given that you can't come up with a counterargument, it is
lol

you already know what I saw

and saying "no I didnt" isn't a good defense
Saying "that's not what the SoD posts say" is. If I'm not the Oracle, then who is?
what are you talking about
My role is confirmed by the SoD posts and no one has CC'd me
This is strong proof that either Leetic is telling the truth, or that he claimed his teammate's role. I forget if there was a good reason to do that, when it happened. Dodging trackers I guess? Still seems unlikely.

was there a night kill last night?

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:38 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:38 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:37 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:25 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:24 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:23 pm The clarity is that I tracked leetic last night and received feedback that he visited mac so unless a redirector would like to come forward and take the responsibility for this, then youre lying about your role entirely
Other tracks from previous nights?
I am a 2 shot, holstered n0 and tracked falcon n1 - he didnt move
Also, super convenient you tracked the one person who can't dispute your claim
it's actually very inconvenient for me
There's a simple solution: don't fakeclaim!

is that advice to yourself xd

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:37 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:25 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:24 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:23 pm The clarity is that I tracked leetic last night and received feedback that he visited mac so unless a redirector would like to come forward and take the responsibility for this, then youre lying about your role entirely
Other tracks from previous nights?
I am a 2 shot, holstered n0 and tracked falcon n1 - he didnt move
Also, super convenient you tracked the one person who can't dispute your claim

it's actually very inconvenient for me

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:36 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:35 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:34 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:33 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:31 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:30 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:28 pm

No other role has been x-shot as far as I'm aware? The closest is LC's JOAT claim
and?
Why would there be only one, given that tracker isn't really more powerful than e.g. town blocker?

I just remembered Vig was one-shot, but 1x vigs are standard
it's what santa gave me
So what you're saying is someone can confirm that, and if they can't it's confirmed BS
no. i'm saying its what my role isn't.
FTFY

I hear that one works in the court of law too

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:36 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:36 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:32 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:31 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:30 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:29 pm very good defense!
Given that you can't come up with a counterargument, it is
lol

you already know what I saw

and saying "no I didnt" isn't a good defense
Saying "that's not what the SoD posts say" is. If I'm not the Oracle, then who is?
what are you talking about
My role is confirmed by the SoD posts and no one has CC'd me

how do you mean?

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:32 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:31 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:30 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:29 pm very good defense!
Given that you can't come up with a counterargument, it is
lol

you already know what I saw

and saying "no I didnt" isn't a good defense
Saying "that's not what the SoD posts say" is. If I'm not the Oracle, then who is?

what are you talking about

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:34 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:33 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:31 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:30 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:28 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:25 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:24 pm

Other tracks from previous nights?
I am a 2 shot, holstered n0 and tracked falcon n1 - he didnt move
No other role has been x-shot as far as I'm aware? The closest is LC's JOAT claim
and?
Why would there be only one, given that tracker isn't really more powerful than e.g. town blocker?

I just remembered Vig was one-shot, but 1x vigs are standard
it's what santa gave me
So what you're saying is someone can confirm that, and if they can't it's confirmed BS

no. i'm saying its what my role is.

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:31 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:30 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:28 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:25 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:24 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:23 pm The clarity is that I tracked leetic last night and received feedback that he visited mac so unless a redirector would like to come forward and take the responsibility for this, then youre lying about your role entirely
Other tracks from previous nights?
I am a 2 shot, holstered n0 and tracked falcon n1 - he didnt move
No other role has been x-shot as far as I'm aware? The closest is LC's JOAT claim
and?
Why would there be only one, given that tracker isn't really more powerful than e.g. town blocker?

I just remembered Vig was one-shot, but 1x vigs are standard

it's what santa gave me

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:30 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:29 pm very good defense!
Given that you can't come up with a counterargument, it is

lol

you already know what I saw

and saying "no I didnt" isn't a good defense

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:29 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:22 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:21 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:21 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:20 pm My action doesn't even have a target, so how could my target be manipulated even in the event I was redirected?
Well, of course, you would also be accused of lying about your role in this scenario.
But my role is confirmable?
I would take it as "you are the silencer and your teammate is the Oracle" kind of angle.
Why would a wolf Oracle not take advantage of an easily confirmable claim and instead give it to their teammate?

well you cant be an oracle so that's a moot point

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:28 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:25 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:24 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:23 pm The clarity is that I tracked leetic last night and received feedback that he visited mac so unless a redirector would like to come forward and take the responsibility for this, then youre lying about your role entirely
Other tracks from previous nights?
I am a 2 shot, holstered n0 and tracked falcon n1 - he didnt move
No other role has been x-shot as far as I'm aware? The closest is LC's JOAT claim

and?

very good defense!

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:29 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:23 pm The clarity is that I tracked leetic last night and received feedback that he visited mac so unless a redirector would like to come forward and take the responsibility for this, then youre lying about your role entirely
Oracles don't visit anybody.

lol, like

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:24 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:23 pm The clarity is that I tracked leetic last night and received feedback that he visited mac so unless a redirector would like to come forward and take the responsibility for this, then youre lying about your role entirely
Other tracks from previous nights?

I am a 2 shot, holstered n0 and tracked falcon n1 - he didnt move

The clarity is that I tracked leetic last night and received feedback that he visited mac so unless a redirector would like to come forward and take the responsibility for this, then youre lying about your role entirely

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 5:20 pm My action doesn't even have a target, so how could my target be manipulated even in the event I was redirected?

that doesn't make sense lol

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