The Syndicate

/vote TwoPlayersAndAOnion

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:37 pm
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:24 pm /vote @Kurosaki Ichigo

placing this since i believe they are the one doing the trivia, and also so i can change the site next time.
I'm completely alone and everyone is chatting in private, while the thread has little information.
I have no intention of defending myself, so I'd better enjoy my Sunday if you want to vote for me today

i mean im voting you under the assumption of what i believe your role is, so if you actually claim ur role then you have nothing to worry about.

@Kurosaki Ichigo whats ur ro;le then?

/vote @Kurosaki Ichigo

placing this since i believe they are the one doing the trivia, and also so i can change the site next time.

@beancat place ur vote on fate please and thank you

beancat wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:14 pm
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 3:01 pm by the way, we figured out from 48 hour night phase that the trivia person is almost certainly in seonrichard/kuro
SeonRichard has claimed not trivia person to me, if that's of any importance

then its ichigo if u trust seeon/richard

Heres the issue foolsgold claims their werewolf partner is whysper, so if we vote them thats one less factional kill thats happening.

Just some food for thought, unless we like seeing 3 flips happen during the night.

No cap I wanna see onion flip, so i'm in agreement with tilgarial

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:44 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:38 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:08 pm
TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:32 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:27 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:44 am Think I'm ok with yeeting Boq or Treereaper atm, and Lemon wanted Treereaper as well.
And I'd like to avoid trivia again, sooooo...
hmmmmmm
opportunistic m'lord tbh
I agree,

It doesn't make sense FoolsGold targets me when they are scum (presumably would be goodreading me then) and then now suspecting me for real somehow without anything major happening to make that change happen.

I'd like to test the scum stays scum theory on second layer as well.

**/vote FoolsGold**

~Solic
Targeted you because you haven't flipped, and I couldn't recall a ton of the effect on the thread you've had. Other people were in the running for both heads, you were the convergence point.
Not sure what to think of you now though.

Anyway this quoted post is awful logic. We've already had multiple people change alignment in terms of host flip.

@TownMisleaders Just to clear things up out here. You think there's a Disguiser or Forger who's currently messing with flips in modposts?
the logic here is that, one, they didn't flip yet, so unless ur presuming there is more than one evil faction, its completely baseless to be voting them
and 2nd, tree repeat and boq are both lazy scum reads
....*squint*
Iiiiii mean, *I* was talking about the idea that people stay the same general side of the alignment fence when yeeted the first time. And that we were voting Treereaper due to both of us couldn't come up with reasons to not do so, along with the fact that they haven't flipped, because more info is useful.

I dont believe this is a thing or else the came could easily be busted. There is a chancce that when kiiruma died and got a new alignment he just happened to rerand town but this time it was a totally different win con.

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:04 pm
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:44 pm @Tilgarial who do u plan to exile?
I've considered asking who I should exile in thread, but that ran into the exact same problem as this question.
My ability is, technically speaking, in some sense, a protective.
Protectives aren't too great when everybody knows who you're targetting?

I can confirm that I'm not targeting zone again tho.
I also considered millium, but I assume they wouldn't be too happy about the part of my ability that blocks theirs.

Well then you should be exiling people u think are good aligned.

@Tilgarial who do u plan to exile?

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:24 pm being hated in the VC is a mechanic linked to frustration in the thread, which at max can put you at +3
but as Osie said, its possible to go beyond that by other means

as for the direct cause, IDK, I've been trying to hit +3 so I can figure it out, to no avail

+3?????

TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:19 pm
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:15 pm
TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:11 pm
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:05 pm @TreeReaper wait what did ur ability do to me

I think we've been over this already...? It's investigative about the number of words that are in your ability text. You seemed cooperative enough to also answer the number you had without us having to reveal everything ourselves.

Also going to do some groceries now, so cya later.

~Solic
oh duh, sorry too much inportant to remember lol, whats the role even called?
Like I know the thread has acted like I'm ultra paranoid about anti-claim, but knowing that I am, I hope you understand I'm not going to answer this.

Now I'm really out of here for now.

~Solic

fair, but i dont think mill has his claim vig anymore.

according to zone i am hated currently lol

TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:11 pm
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:05 pm @TreeReaper wait what did ur ability do to me

I think we've been over this already...? It's investigative about the number of words that are in your ability text. You seemed cooperative enough to also answer the number you had without us having to reveal everything ourselves.

Also going to do some groceries now, so cya later.

~Solic

oh duh, sorry too much inportant to remember lol, whats the role even called?

TreeReaper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 12:09 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:53 am

updated sheet
if you haven't claimed, claim (looking at you @TreeReaper)
also would appreciate if everyone outted their difference checks
Fine, I won't dig in longer, especially with Gorta wanting to claim earlier. I get a bit stubborn.

We're villager with the wincon to get rid of spies/werewolves and any other threatening factions. Difference check was Skillsissue. Now you can all act as if this would change a read.

~Solic

finally some kind of info that links to the skillissue hydra

As for @TownMisleaders i agree their push on Dkkoba was fine and it helped me see a good side of them but lately that isn't the case. They are throwing out alot of accusations and just recently they tried to accuse zone of being the quiz role despite us already knowing their role (it's up to them if they wanna claim it). Also arctic has been extremely reluctant to tell us anything about their own slot while hard questioning everyone else and playing the blame game.

Again mill seems to know more about Arctic, i've never played with that slot before I think???

@TreeReaper wait what did ur ability do to me

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:40 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:37 am is there any confirmation I what other faction is evil, that's not town?
no confirmation
but my speculation is that village and rebel are also evil and wolves and spies are good in the 2nd world

thats too much evil i think lol?

depending on numbers.

Well there has yet to be any confirmation of spies existing or what their wincon may be.

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:37 am is there any confirmation I what other faction is evil, that's not town?

to my knowledge, no

Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:06 am
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:03 am @ATNoLeafia nothing odd about that? For a while milliumn was the only rebel to our knowledge.

I dont think the slot just makes up a new alignment.
What, both my partners claimed in there very first posts lol, they just never claimed their alignment, until a little later

I thought you were seperated from the chat pretty early on or am i mis remembering lol

SeonRichard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:03 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 11:00 am
SeonRichard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:57 am Weird how that's mentioned, soon after I talked about Foolsgold being a decent counter wagon choice.
Oh well, it is what it is.
I should go to bed soon.

-CRichard
I think the combination of your weird claim that we haven't seen yet with being so on-board with MisLeader's push despite it having the doubtful assumption that "Kiiruma is not a troll, therefore their claim that they were mafia is true" are enough.
My alignment claim was mentioned on Fortress of Lies.
I'll bring up the post for proof and it was from beancat.
This is in case you think I'm making it up. https://www.fortressoflies.com/t/osies- ... eonrichard

-CRichard

when did u mention that claim in Fol thread and how did bean know but no one esle did?

@ATNoLeafia nothing odd about that? For a while milliumn was the only rebel to our knowledge.

I dont think the slot just makes up a new alignment.

I mean i wanna vote artic slot because they won't budge on any of their own info and we are supposed to just be ok with that.

Like I can confirm they targeted me but I have no idea what they did????

So im fustrated

SeonRichard wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:43 am I should go to bed soon.
Before I do so, I claimed my alignment on Fortress of Lies yet that's probably going to be annoying to check.
I'll save you all the trouble, and I claim to be of the Citizen alignment.
My win condition is to defeat all informed minority factions, and have at least member of my faction alive.
Which to me sounds like I'm of the uninformed majority alignment.
I'm not sure if I have to claim my role yet.

-CRichard

wait what?

A NEW WIN CON?

A NEW FACTION?

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:19 am
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:16 am
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:13 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:24 am
Whysper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:16 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:57 am @TreeReaper
No, Zone thinks he is a wolf, and he currently is a wolf, whether that means absolutely anything, well I still don't know yet
Just to be clear, you mean wolf in the general sense of informed minority and not specifically as werewolf, correct?

And he openly admits this? Does he talk about a factional chat or action or anything else?
From what Zone has said in the ??? chat, he is in Owl's previous faction (mafia), and he has admitted that they had a chat and a factional kill.
That has to be an evil informed minority.
Incorrect
whats in correct about this?
i mean this is fair
I don't think world 1 factions are as straightforward as that

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:23 am
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:22 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:16 am
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:08 am i dont believe the consequences part, because owl outted zone and doesnt seem like he got hit with any consequences.
Well, I actually asked Osie if we were allowed to out our old partner and got back the answer that it may be disadvantageous (loosely paraphrased).
If nothing happens to Owl tonight/next phase, we might be more open to outting that info.
yeah but owl didnt state there was or would be any consequences.
Zone is already out of world 1, I didn't bother asking tbh

can you do me a favor and ask osie? If there would be consequences for outtinga priod member of your informed chat?

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:16 am
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:08 am i dont believe the consequences part, because owl outted zone and doesnt seem like he got hit with any consequences.
Well, I actually asked Osie if we were allowed to out our old partner and got back the answer that it may be disadvantageous (loosely paraphrased).
If nothing happens to Owl tonight/next phase, we might be more open to outting that info.

yeah but owl didnt state there was or would be any consequences.

OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:13 am
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:24 am
Whysper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 9:16 am
Millium wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 8:57 am @TreeReaper
No, Zone thinks he is a wolf, and he currently is a wolf, whether that means absolutely anything, well I still don't know yet
Just to be clear, you mean wolf in the general sense of informed minority and not specifically as werewolf, correct?

And he openly admits this? Does he talk about a factional chat or action or anything else?
From what Zone has said in the ??? chat, he is in Owl's previous faction (mafia), and he has admitted that they had a chat and a factional kill.
That has to be an evil informed minority.
Incorrect

whats in correct about this?

i dont believe the consequences part, because owl outted zone and doesnt seem like he got hit with any consequences.

DunkinDonuts wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 6:16 am Millium, if you claim who you're going to shoot, I can make sure it goes through,

@Millium dont u dare claim who your shooting, Ik your not gonna make a dumb paly as to out your actual shot.

Whysper wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 1:09 am
Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:21 pm
FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:56 pm "I am ashamed to have finally succumbed to temptation and became one of those people that make excel sheets of players for a mafia game" - Lemonfairy, 2022

there's probably stuff missing but just lmk and I'll add them
I fully claimed villager, with wincon to kill spies and werewolves plus other not mentioned threats. Nothing changed.
My first DP lenght was 120/48

@DunkinDonuts @Whysper @SeonRichard @TreeReaper
claim to complete the sheeet
My faction is Villager and my previous phase was 120/48. Wincon to defeat all threats to Villagers.

I wanna point out this is nothing similar to villager wincon we know and love, they had 2 names in them. What were those factions?

Sorry if u already answered just catching up currently.

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:41 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:35 pm Whoever doesn't full claim by the end of this day phase I'm putting a bullet in them
you only have 1 shot, and there's at least 5 trees. i like those odds.

but seriously speaking, i'll talk to vulgard about claiming. i dont really want to, and i doubt he will either, but shrug

@Millium

The slot had me target them with my action cause they had a plan, mind no idea what this plan was, they also targeted me, no idea with what.

So personally I wanna know their role to.

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:03 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:54 pm I'm not too worried about you as I am worried about tilg, but I would love for u to try to find it. I still don't get what even a faction claim has to do with anything, but if you think claiming mean anything, why are u not voting Owl?
okay but spectatochat was actually a neutral so if anything this is the one piece of mech info we should actually listen to

as for owl, i'm not sure but i don't think having mafia as an initial role means you will have an informed minority role in the core world, otherwise it defeats the entire point of the mechanic.. there must be some players who are initially informed and then uninformed and vice versa otherwise there is no point in the core role mechanic existing

therefore i don't think there's any correlation between owl's first role and their current one. sure they could still be informed, but if that's the case i don't think it's specifically because their first role was mafia

if we're going down this route i'd rather kill onion, since they've still largely avoided talking about the dkkoba situation and how they were a big part in getting him killed, and they still have not claimed their faction, but unlike dkkoba/mathblade they haven't even tried to soft some sort of restriction on what they can say, they are just.. choosing not to

It doesn't it we go off the assumption the 2nd role is randomized, so even if ur alignment was mafia before there is a chance you got it again, osie did say for the most part when i asked him that 2nd roles were basically randomized.

FoolsGold wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:14 pm
TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:12 pm
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:01 pm zone is spotting nonsense in our ??? chat, send help plz
he is speaking the language of the gods
I didn't know the language of the gods was chuuni

LMFAO

Just to be safe, again zone is probably just trolling the chat. He says that 6 people or the #6th spot (bur) will die in 24 hours. So if something funky happens, zone either did it or knows what happened.

zone is spotting nonsense in our ??? chat, send help plz

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:56 pm
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:53 pm
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:50 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:34 pm I think one of the masons might be false, and beancat is always my first choice
beancat's claims in our chat has been lining up with what they have said in the thread (at least at FoL's thread) afaik tbh
has he claimed hes actual role besides the mason part?

Like what makes you so sure its a masons chat and not like a neighborhood
They have made a full role claim to me, but I won't disclose what that was tbh

Tbh I am out of the loop with the mason chat claim that I assume is in this thread. I just started reading page 9. What I believe is that they are a survivor tbh

do you trust the claim?

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:50 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 3:34 pm I think one of the masons might be false, and beancat is always my first choice
beancat's claims in our chat has been lining up with what they have said in the thread (at least at FoL's thread) afaik tbh

has he claimed hes actual role besides the mason part?

Like what makes you so sure its a masons chat and not like a neighborhood

false mason would line up with the idea that the world 1 mafia more than likely had a false factional shot.

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:38 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 2:35 pm If someone has the time to tell me Bean is a neutral masonry, they have the time to give me all the deets, like who is also in it, what exactly a neutral masonry even is, and why I was under the impression they were a survivor
i don't know what their wincon is, but spectatochat, beancat and someone else (i cant remember who) claimed to be part of a neutral masonry

whats bean cats 2nd alignment?

Also who is this someone else?

zone confirmed

n1: he submitted a shot on seon: nothing happened
n2: he submitted a shot on tm: nothing happened
N3: he submitted a shot on mill: Mill got his first elimination

which I honestly dont kill mill died by zone ccause doesnt line up with his first 2 shots unless both those slots got protected.

Mafia in world 1 probably has a false factional kill of some sort.

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:57 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:55 pm Again who cares, I dont
so you think they are a wolf in the neut masonry
ok lmao

neutral masonry?

TownMisleaders wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:57 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:55 pm Again who cares, I dont
so you think they are a wolf in the neut masonry
ok lmao

neutral masonry?

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 1:45 pm
Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:22 pm Again my best guess is Owl and beancat are evil, beancat more likely since they are full of shit
Beancat has literally been outed by other people.
They started with a neutral three man-faction chat with a faction heal as ability.
Both of their teammates flipped early on and immediatley said this. It's literally not even up for depate? They are undeniably neutral in their first role.

And based similarly, can be easily proven as various(at least two, as far as I can remember) other people confirmed to have received that basket of theirs.
Unless you argue it's actually something else or some sort, you're literally just pointing fingers.
Like, what the heck are you even doing?
Yes, we know this is bastard. But as far as I can tell, it is very much the "everything has a rule, there are just too many of them and they're all convoluted" type of bastard.

So, with somebody saying we can win with our "outer" wincon/role, why go after those that are basically proven to nor be in your way?
.
Is this some sort of anti-neut mentality? Is it just going after the obvious targets? I've no clue.

Tbh, if it weren't for the fact informed minority wouldn't want us supporting town in a more active role just as much as uninformed majority shouldn't want to risk us turning to informed minority on flip, I'd be doubting your motives.

Yall realize that this is still mafia, uninformed vs informed right? Regardless of all these alignment changes and unknown osie has confirmed its informed vs uninformed. People have been lieing about their claims, hiding their abilities, their win condition there is just to many unknowns.

Kiiruma claimed to be uninformed mafia and flipped town mostly cause he knew he was scum, there is a clear case of someone blantly lieing about their alignment. Hell if millium didnt shoot kiiruma he probably still be here, getting ignored by the game cause we were close enough to accepting the fact that mafia meant town.

There is also 2 kills out of 3 that keep happening and every night we've only had one or 2 of those shooters confirmed.

Like there was 3 people taht died and only one can be linked to a player.

So your right there is alot of unknown, which is exactly why we cant just blindly believe every claim people make about their alignments.

If zone isn't willing to give us those names then they should be the next person who is lunched.

Millium wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:27 pm I'll just assume that nobody takes my input seriously, since that's very common across sites

But I'm sticking by my conviction that there are wolves in owl/based

Either way I have work, pick ur poison

You think based hydra made up that role claim?

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:24 pm
Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:15 pm
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:13 pm @Kurosaki Ichigo Owl has been pretty cooperative as of late, so not sure what your own about.
What information did they actually share?
@Tsumugi

they shared the original win con, also who else was apart of their faction which is quite generous seeing as how they flipped mafia.

Kurosaki Ichigo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:14 pm
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:08 pm
OwlsWriteLetters wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:08 pm
Tsumugi wrote: ↑Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:02 pm @OwlsWriteLetters who were your mafia kills
Already said I don't remember
We were kicked from the chat
I don't think you have a short memory

??? chat is currently asking zone what the shots are, so we dont exactly care or need owl to remember the information will be got one way or another.

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