The Syndicate

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:20 am
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:17 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:15 am
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:14 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:11 am
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:12 pm Everybody is talking about aro, nobody* is voting them
So here
/vote arogame

*well, three are, but like still the lowest current wagon

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:20 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:15 pm @Tilgarial werent you townreading aro? What happened?
Ngl, I was already struggling to maintain that, and the current situation just needed to change

almost everybody was talking about sussing aro, but nobody was actively moving there. that's a werid situation no matter how you put it, no?
eh, same can be said about a lot of slots though. why did the situation warrant changing? why was that enough for you to disregard your earlier tr on aro?
I wasn't disregarding my tr on aro
I had a micro tr on aro, but several points didn't sit right with me
parts I caught in the perpetual catchup, parts just directly in the moment
I'm also like 90% sure I said something to that effect, tbh
can you go into specifics? what did sit right with you?

my original tr on aro was for basically choosing a pro-town(open/honest/clear) over a pro-aro narrative when talking about his previous actions
one post he had... somewhere. maybe around 800ish? was similar... but felt more forced, tbh
which shook confidence in my original read
then there was the fact aro went after lily/porscha when they did, lily with a blank vote & explanations only when promted and porscha effectively as a "hey, people don't seem happy with current wagons? well, there's this lhf..."
also the thing where they brought up the santy thing exactly when they did, though in hindsight that wasn't intentional
I think there was one more thing, but rn I don't remember what

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:17 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:15 am
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:14 am
almost everybody was talking about sussing aro, but nobody was actively moving there. that's a werid situation no matter how you put it, no?
eh, same can be said about a lot of slots though. why did the situation warrant changing? why was that enough for you to disregard your earlier tr on aro?
I wasn't disregarding my tr on aro
I had a micro tr on aro, but several points didn't sit right with me
parts I caught in the perpetual catchup, parts just directly in the moment
I'm also like 90% sure I said something to that effect, tbh

as for the comment about other slots, when I voted there was a LOT of talk about sussing/voting aro, but nobody started/did it
like
the way people were talking, aro was already a higher sus than both other wagons
the switch would have happend at some point regardless of my vote, but me accelerating that definitely cleared up the air in regards to what was actually going on

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:15 am
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:14 am
ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:11 am
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:12 pm Everybody is talking about aro, nobody* is voting them
So here
/vote arogame

*well, three are, but like still the lowest current wagon

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:20 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:15 pm @Tilgarial werent you townreading aro? What happened?
Ngl, I was already struggling to maintain that, and the current situation just needed to change

almost everybody was talking about sussing aro, but nobody was actively moving there. that's a werid situation no matter how you put it, no?
eh, same can be said about a lot of slots though. why did the situation warrant changing? why was that enough for you to disregard your earlier tr on aro?

I wasn't disregarding my tr on aro
I had a micro tr on aro, but several points didn't sit right with me
parts I caught in the perpetual catchup, parts just directly in the moment
I'm also like 90% sure I said something to that effect, tbh

ilario wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:11 am
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:12 pm Everybody is talking about aro, nobody* is voting them
So here
/vote arogame

*well, three are, but like still the lowest current wagon

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:20 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:15 pm @Tilgarial werent you townreading aro? What happened?
Ngl, I was already struggling to maintain that, and the current situation just needed to change

almost everybody was talking about sussing aro, but nobody was actively moving there. that's a werid situation no matter how you put it, no?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:12 pm
ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:11 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:06 pm aight im doming ilario today
Ur doing a great job of honoring aros legacy

You’ve somehow managed to vote his tr, ignore his srs, and manage to descent into chaos in a manner of minutes lol

I’m just going to solve around you then
we dome these

I'm gonna say this now, but I think you're both town, so I hope this chilled out

santygrass wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:04 am @Tilgarial why arent you a vote option in the poll?

I don't know?
it's not something I did/was informed of

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:01 pm Tilg was hella scummy near eod

Seven is obv town

/vote Tilg

talk to me about this?
I'm catching up rn tho, and I'll try and actually concentrate on that, but I'm here

Do we get flips?

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:47 pm Like, I am getting more hype rn and I can't explain this feeling hehe

It's like, I know my town will be ok and that mafia made such a big risk just to kill me and they fear me which is cute, but I know that it will end up backfiring!

Who would you say this applies to?
Porscha isn't voting you.
I might be right now, and I actually started the exodus to your wagon, but even without me that would have both happened and led to you being the main wagon, albeit a little later probably and with one less vote
Dya? I don't really feel like dya is taking much of a risk voting you tbh

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:39 pm I actually am happy in a way because now I know my reads will be further strengthened and the propaganda and manipulation that we have been underneath the tyranic mafia will be revalead.

You may kill me, but you won't kill my legacy and stances. I will continue to haunt the mafia from my grave and hope I have done my best to convince you all upon my flip!

Mafia is like a game of revolution and the town should fight back the following day in my honor and stand up for this injustice!!

People like Wisp and I have been done so dirty this EoD and I hope we stand up to it or you all stand up to it!!

If you could have us CFD to a wagon that wasn't in contention (i.e. not you/poscha/wisp), where would you want it?

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:29 pm I think it indicates aro being mafia tbh. Im going to dip out of the thread now, glgl

I'd ask why, but you're prolly already gone, lol

And yeah, i should prolly sleep too

dyachei wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:27 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:25 pm I'm also not sure what to think about the thread suddenly going silent after everything boiled over into the aro wagon, I was kind of expecting there to be more energy around
am still here. just had to feed the baby momentarily

Yeah, people are still here
But the wagon movements/considerations are dead

I'm also not sure what to think about the thread suddenly going silent after everything boiled over into the aro wagon, I was kind of expecting there to be more energy around

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:10 pm
Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:03 pm @tilgarial if you have no read on Ender why not look through his ISO yourself?
I mean, i could
But I'll be honest, I only really have a read on 6~7 people or so
Yes, I could ISO everybody else and at least try to from one theoretically
But getting a two in one deal that also creates more content and gives you a chance to expand on an apparent scumread seems more realistic and also easier

I was gonna wait for your next comment, but it's kinda waiting so
@Chamomile you've decided to solely engage me suddenly, how did this line of questioning help you?

Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:03 pm @tilgarial if you have no read on Ender why not look through his ISO yourself?

I mean, i could
But I'll be honest, I only really have a read on 6~7 people or so
Yes, I could ISO everybody else and at least try to from one theoretically
But getting a two in one deal that also creates more content and gives you a chance to expand on an apparent scumread seems more realistic and also easier

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:59 pm I simply do not believe her claim and I do not tr her so im not particularly willing to just see what happens

Would you say you sr her then?
And I'm not following the logic on not believing her claim -> voting her so the claim is stopped from working
Only specific parts? Like you believe the part where she's saying that bring voted stops it, but not that she'll likely self resolve if it doesn't happen?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:56 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:56 pm What does ts game mean?
The syndicate

And her claim is exactly why im voting her lol

Can you talk us through that logic?

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME why are you currently voting alison?

Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:47 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:44 pm
Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:37 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:35 pm
I'm mostly assuming you would want to do something about it, rather than wanting it myself, and kinda hoping you'll do something AI from there
Mm I, I see. I don't. I was just showing where my heart was at.

What is your read on Ender?
I don't really have much of a read on ender, tbf
I don't really see the things you saw in the posts you called out, but I do know/think town!you can probably spot things that I'd miss

Which partly leads me back to the ISO thing, because over a broader area, I do hope I'd at least catch on to your perspective and could deal with it from there
Why did my read of Ender stick out to you in particular as opposed to any other reads by me or anyone else?

1. That's not the first read I'm asking about

2. You sounded convinced & Ender is currently very much not a top suspect or even much of a talking point besides from you, nearing EOD

Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:39 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:36 pm
Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:31 pm Ender + Aro + Tilg
As in, a team? How does me + aro work here?
He scum reads you when you've been townie which makes me think that he's seeing the scumminess from you because you're his partner.

...I dunno if you've read those parts/are aware of current standings, but I'm not actually townread widely

Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:37 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:35 pm
I'm mostly assuming you would want to do something about it, rather than wanting it myself, and kinda hoping you'll do something AI from there
Mm I, I see. I don't. I was just showing where my heart was at.

What is your read on Ender?

I don't really have much of a read on ender, tbf
I don't really see the things you saw in the posts you called out, but I do know/think town!you can probably spot things that I'd miss

Which partly leads me back to the ISO thing, because over a broader area, I do hope I'd at least catch on to your perspective and could deal with it from there

Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:31 pm Ender + Aro + Tilg

As in, a team? How does me + aro work here?

Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:29 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:26 pm
Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:21 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:18 pm
Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:11 pm Allison
Seanzie
Tilgarial
santygrass
SPF
MacDougall

Millium
ilario
Lilypetal

dyachei
arogame123
Porscha

Belzy
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
RondoDimBuckle

EnderWiggen

Within tiers aren't necessarily ordered, but sort of.
You have like a hundred minutes till EOD, and I don't think you read most of the game
Do you have any intentions of checking the ender ISO, considering your current stance, and if not why? Do you feel like your current read is good enough?
It's good enough, why are you asking this?
I don't feel like you're being very convincing rn/I don't feel like you're gonna make ender a serious wagon the way you're going about it now, and you have a definite target to dig into & a time limit in which to do it
So I'm just poking at you to see what you'll do about it
Why do you want me to do something about it?

I'm mostly assuming you would want to do something about it, rather than wanting it myself, and kinda hoping you'll do something AI from there

Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:21 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:18 pm
Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:11 pm Allison
Seanzie
Tilgarial
santygrass
SPF
MacDougall

Millium
ilario
Lilypetal

dyachei
arogame123
Porscha

Belzy
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
RondoDimBuckle

EnderWiggen

Within tiers aren't necessarily ordered, but sort of.
You have like a hundred minutes till EOD, and I don't think you read most of the game
Do you have any intentions of checking the ender ISO, considering your current stance, and if not why? Do you feel like your current read is good enough?
It's good enough, why are you asking this?

I don't feel like you're being very convincing rn/I don't feel like you're gonna make ender a serious wagon the way you're going about it now, and you have a definite target to dig into & a time limit in which to do it
So I'm just poking at you to see what you'll do about it

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:15 pm @Tilgarial werent you townreading aro? What happened?

Ngl, I was already struggling to maintain that, and the current situation just needed to change

Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:11 pm Allison
Seanzie
Tilgarial
santygrass
SPF
MacDougall

Millium
ilario
Lilypetal

dyachei
arogame123
Porscha

Belzy
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Neon
RondoDimBuckle

EnderWiggen

Within tiers aren't necessarily ordered, but sort of.

You have like a hundred minutes till EOD, and I don't think you read most of the game
Do you have any intentions of checking the ender ISO, considering your current stance, and if not why? Do you feel like your current read is good enough?

Everybody is talking about aro, nobody* is voting them
So here
[VOTE: arogame [vote\]

*well, three are, but like still the lowest current wagon] aubergine

Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:04 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:00 pm
Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:59 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:51 pm
Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:50 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:44 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 6:43 pm I'd like to point out that Millium/Porscha might as well be 8 to 6 due to the Millium self-vote, so when someone earlier said Porscha's wagon isn't getting steam or whatever... nah. Porscha is a full fledged counterwagon that easily could go over, so that gamestate read was not accurate IMO.
I will agree with this take.
What take is there to agree with? It's a fact. This is fake.
... The take that the gamestate read was inaccurate?

The fuck.
It's not a take it's a fact. There's nothing to agree with. It was a fact.
The fact that this is what you're pushing to scumread me is amusing.
It's not just that but it does show that you are just like doing scummy commentary that doesn't actually say anything. Just getting up the post count basically.

There's still time till EOD (I think)
Do you want to check the Ender ISO and come back with a comprhensive reasoning?

...actually, let me check how long it is till EOD, I need to know if I'm awake for it anyways

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:04 pm I see where Dya is coming from btw. But if aro and cham are howling this hard, my first thought is that Millium isnt town either and prob has a good role btw. So Im staying here

Your own thoughts?

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:59 pm @Tilgarial how have u felt about the difference checks people have put with u/me/and spf considering u seem to tr both of us.

Do u think the people placing those dichotomies are scummy or?

based on the lily vote?
I think I saw mac do that. not really, I get the PoV
I will say that it might have been part of why I wanted to dig into your lily vote a little, because SPF>you in terms of townieness(especially in regards to the lily vote), but tbh I'm not putting too much stock in that difference check in and of itself

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:55 pm Tilg has treated me in an incredibly townie way.

I'll also say that I'm unsure where this defence is coming from

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:55 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:52 pm
there's a fair difference between you literally towncoring me from start of D1 to your death compared to what they were accusing you of, no?
sure, I'll say that you towncoring people early isn't out of your townrange
but that would have been a terrible defence against their point, regardless of my thoughts on the matter, because it's literally two different things
Its mostly that Tilga knows that treating people the way Seanzie was presenting and taking issue with is pretty much how you saw me act as Villa.
The towncoring stuff was a performative part of it, but I pretty much did it with a lot of slots in finale too

I'm sorry if I'm disappointing you with that, but like
that wasn't really a part of my impression of you from finals
I remember you as the guy that towncored me, I remember you as the guy that was confident and enduring in the face of opposition to just do your thing, I remember you as the guy that stuck around and did your best all the way till the end when you were ml'd
if you're expecting me to be intimately familiar with your exact behaviour, then... I'm not, I'm sorry. even if you're town, I'd still say calling on you there to explain yourself directly was the right move

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:46 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:39 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:36 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:28 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:20 pm

Why?
Why do I like someone voting a slot that I have been calling lock wolf for the past 5 pages?
It's a bad vote though. I'be been calling Millium town all day and then just shrug and vote there. What does that say about me?
You said that you thought that wisp could been flame fanning you tho irt to me iirc?

In my head that progression added up.

Also , I didnt comment on that but I felt like that read applied more to Tilgarial rather than Wisp. Like, if I wasnt in thread at the moment I feel like Tilg would've been more like 'Yeah, I see where are tou coming from' , rather than dismissing your read which is something that Tilg should know its a bad basis for the read you had. If it makes sense wowee
I'm pretty sure I said in the first response around it that I'm not buying into it, lol
I liked the perspective in terms of how it relates to me reading sean
and can you really call me moderating and translating for you two fanning the flames, when I could have stayed out of it and watched you both burn?
wait, that wasn't your perspective
I still don't really get why you thought (some of) that, though
As a former wolf be8ng pocketed by Town Santy, I expected V!Tilga to say 'I see where are you coming from Seanzie. But that isnt true at all *provide explanation* ' . Rather than that you pinged me for explanations too and all that stuff, so my feeling that 'wowee if I wasnt here then Tilga would've allowed them to maintain a read that they should know its wrong' is what I think

there's a fair difference between you literally towncoring me from start of D1 to your death compared to what they were accusing you of, no?
sure, I'll say that you towncoring people early isn't out of your townrange
but that would have been a terrible defence against their point, regardless of my thoughts on the matter, because it's literally two different things

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:40 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:37 pm
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:35 pm Like Alison, people either null read/sr Porscha and when u look at the Porscha wagon besides me, it includes people that have been tr at some point and when the people who tr wisp jump on me to create my wagon when the Porscha wagon exists as an alternative, it’s just pinging red flags for me
Porscha is literally LHF
LHF != town and Porscha is able to polarise herself.

If Porscha isn’t towny, then she’s mafia because of her play and others have felt the same way as well.

I’m sorry it’s lhf but it’s just a result of the current wagons and who I tr and based off the reasoning I explained earlier.

I mean, you're not wrong
but a CFD to the LHF is like
textbook pro-mafia move
so to me it makes sense that people are reluctant to follow that path

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:40 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:36 pm I am worried that their earlier frustrations about people being townread for doing antitown things (which I townread) is not because they want townies to do townie things, but it is perhaps because their pushes, which they thought should lead to misexes, were being parry'd.

I kinda started to reconsider my thoughts on them after I found them to be a bit of a flame-fanner with a couple of posts when I was hardpushing Santy - in particular Dya pushed the idea that my treatment of Dya should have been the same as my treatment of Millium, but it wasn't, and Millium jumped in with a post that was more aggressive than I thought was warranted based on how they were interacting pushing the idea that it makes me "wolfy inconsistant" or something, but then Millium just dropped that like it was hot when that push didn't seem to be sticking with others. The quick overly-aggressive push on me that was immediately dropped like that when I was engaging with Santy and Dya felt way off, especially if I suspend my Scum!santy read and consider a town!Santy world, Millium is the most likely wolf-at-the-sidelines-of-tvt-violence.
Cool. I am scumreading Millium because I have hated most of their reads/takes for the entire game, and I found them to be overly defensive and overreacting to relatively mild pushes on them. They have engaged in way more AtE than is warranted for the pressure put on them, including a self vote, and I find this to be scummy. I have also disliked the fact that they were quick to jump to aro's defense and make up what I think are convoluted reasons to justify aro's behavior, when Occam's Razor is that aro did it because he is scum. It felt to me like Millium was trying to come up with something convincing to back up a position they already had rather than being genuinely curious about aro's alignment - in fact at no point did I feel that Millium was at all curious or cared about the truth of aro's role card. I think they are partners and it's why I'm happy to see votes on either of them.

It sounds like our reads are in accord so I'm pretty satisfied with the way this is going and Millium being top wagon.

I should probably mention here that Millium mentioned in scumchat in our last game (we were wolf together) that they're more emotional as town and have to fake it as mafia(although, to be fair, there's a decent chance they can fake it more convincingly than I can tell most of the time from what I've seen), so I don't really think the AtE angle works well here

Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:36 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:28 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:20 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:48 pm [VOTE: Millium] aubergine
I like this vote too
Why?
Why do I like someone voting a slot that I have been calling lock wolf for the past 5 pages?
It's a bad vote though. I'be been calling Millium town all day and then just shrug and vote there. What does that say about me?
You said that you thought that wisp could been flame fanning you tho irt to me iirc?

In my head that progression added up.

Also , I didnt comment on that but I felt like that read applied more to Tilgarial rather than Wisp. Like, if I wasnt in thread at the moment I feel like Tilg would've been more like 'Yeah, I see where are tou coming from' , rather than dismissing your read which is something that Tilg should know its a bad basis for the read you had. If it makes sense wowee
I'm pretty sure I said in the first response around it that I'm not buying into it, lol
I liked the perspective in terms of how it relates to me reading sean
and can you really call me moderating and translating for you two fanning the flames, when I could have stayed out of it and watched you both burn?

wait, that wasn't your perspective
I still don't really get why you thought (some of) that, though

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:35 pm Like Alison, people either null read/sr Porscha and when u look at the Porscha wagon besides me, it includes people that have been tr at some point and when the people who tr wisp jump on me to create my wagon when the Porscha wagon exists as an alternative, it’s just pinging red flags for me

Porscha is literally LHF

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:31 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:28 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:20 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:49 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:48 pm [VOTE: Millium] aubergine
I like this vote too
Why?
Why do I like someone voting a slot that I have been calling lock wolf for the past 5 pages?
It's a bad vote though. I'be been calling Millium town all day and then just shrug and vote there. What does that say about me?
You said that you thought that wisp could been flame fanning you tho irt to me iirc?

In my head that progression added up.

Also , I didnt comment on that but I felt like that read applied more to Tilgarial rather than Wisp. Like, if I wasnt in thread at the moment I feel like Tilg would've been more like 'Yeah, I see where are tou coming from' , rather than dismissing your read which is something that Tilg should know its a bad basis for the read you had. If it makes sense wowee

I'm pretty sure I said in the first response around it that I'm not buying into it, lol
I liked the perspective in terms of how it relates to me reading sean
and can you really call me moderating and translating for you two fanning the flames, when I could have stayed out of it and watched you both burn?

current votes -
aro - santy/dya/neon
chamo - rondo
Milly - sean/alison/belzy/mac/SPF/lily/milly
porscha - aro/chamo/nook/Ender/illario

okay, can we clear up how much time is actually left?
if the day is 48 hours, we should still have a fair bit of time left, but the idea that only 1 hour is left has entered the thread and I don't like it

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:30 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:19 pm
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:09 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:08 pm
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 2:57 pm What’s ur pov/state of the game tilg?

One things for sure is I want to keep everyone accountable and on record to make concrete views of the game.
my PoV is that I don't have enough scumreads to even really know who to vote, so I've been taking a closer look at some slots where I can. I'm also unsure when EOD is, which may not help much
Well a brief reads list of some of ur towns would help out
SPF, illario, Alison, Sean, maybe you/mac

I'm kinda on the fense in regards to santy, and I think there's a decent chance I'll arrive on a tr on wisp/millium when I take a closer look there

@Tilgarial talk to me about your reads on aro/mac and how you come to them? And why maybe? What is making you doubt on them?

I had a relatively micro townread on aro, but I keep coming up on posts/points I'm not happy with, so my confidence ends up shaken

mac I had a relatively early reason to townread, but it's about 50% reach and haven't been paying them much attention afterwards. I'd still say mac is >rand town for me, but I'm just not confident enough in claiming that as actual townread

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:53 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:43 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:37 am actually

[VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine
you know what, why not

[VOTE: lilypetal] aubergine
Youve been on Lily for almost half a day now, is it typical for you to park day 1 and stay there?

@staypositivefriend you too

no, actually
I'm much more the type to not vote until a couple hours before EOD, lately
which I kinda wanted to break by voting scumreads when I get them
but that forced style change kinda failed at the "when I get them" part

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:22 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:21 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:12 pm Confident town: Illario, MacDougall, Tilgarial
how'd you arrive at me confident town? that's currently not a common take, so it's mildly surprising
Every time I read your posts you strike me as someone who is working alone. Then illario who I trust (both in the trust he's town and trust he's good at reading people sense) said that he meta dived you and you are out of your scum range. So I put you in confident town.

...I don't think I'm particularly out of my scum range, but okay

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:21 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:19 pm
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:09 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:08 pm
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 2:57 pm What’s ur pov/state of the game tilg?

One things for sure is I want to keep everyone accountable and on record to make concrete views of the game.
my PoV is that I don't have enough scumreads to even really know who to vote, so I've been taking a closer look at some slots where I can. I'm also unsure when EOD is, which may not help much
Well a brief reads list of some of ur towns would help out
SPF, illario, Alison, Sean, maybe you/mac

I'm kinda on the fense in regards to santy, and I think there's a decent chance I'll arrive on a tr on wisp/millium when I take a closer look there
Can you explain your Alison town read please and why you feel that way?

the Alison town read is kinda mostly based on relatively early postings, tbh
Shehad a couple thought trains I could follow relatively well, and I haven't really seen anything that made me reevaluate after that

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:15 pm @Tilgarial I have read mostly all the game . Thing is I could have easily skipped parts in catch-up. Like , aro made some long posts that felt over-explainy that i just severely skimmed ehe. Like, In my brain I skipped the Neon townread they had mostly because lf that interaction I remember aro/ender trying to appease themselves into a blocc with Mac , that also had Neon. Probably I should reread those interactions because Ender also said that they felt better about aro there, and to see how much of a thought aro puts in the Neon townreads there (In my brain I remember aro complaining on not seeing the towny in Neon and then voting, so I want to see how they accept the townblocc read on Neon to see if the progression is legit)

do you wanna check out the points aro mentioned, and then come back? if aro/you are both town, getting rid/clearing up some of that stuff might be necessary sooner or later
*clearing up in the sense of explaining both sides accurately, which may help even if one of you is mafia

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:12 pm Confident town: Illario, MacDougall, Tilgarial

how'd you arrive at me confident town? that's currently not a common take, so it's mildly surprising

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:09 pm
Tilgarial wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:08 pm
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 2:57 pm What’s ur pov/state of the game tilg?

One things for sure is I want to keep everyone accountable and on record to make concrete views of the game.
my PoV is that I don't have enough scumreads to even really know who to vote, so I've been taking a closer look at some slots where I can. I'm also unsure when EOD is, which may not help much
Well a brief reads list of some of ur towns would help out

SPF, illario, Alison, Sean, maybe you/mac

I'm kinda on the fense in regards to santy, and I think there's a decent chance I'll arrive on a tr on wisp/millium when I take a closer look there

Alison wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:02 pm I'm going to start ignoring any posts that have a huge quote wall. You people need to learn to trim your posts.

that's fair, I'll try

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 2:57 pm What’s ur pov/state of the game tilg?

One things for sure is I want to keep everyone accountable and on record to make concrete views of the game.

my PoV is that I don't have enough scumreads to even really know who to vote, so I've been taking a closer look at some slots where I can. I'm also unsure when EOD is, which may not help much

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 2:56 pm @Tilgarial as far as santy’s intentions, I can feel that he is somewhat trying to attend/wanting to talk to me and is quite upset that I haven’t reChed out to him as much as I’d usually do based on my games with him which is fair. But the issue I have is that when I see him sr me for the reasons he states, it seems to differ from what I’ve written or said and I feel like he’s not actually reading my content/fabricating it which I have an issue with esp when he’s sr me.

I was gonna push more for a read there but decided to check your ISO for a readlist instead. apparently santy is at the bottom of your PoE, so that checks out lol
have you looked at the sean/santy interactions?
I'm not talking about seans case on santy, but the interactions after that specifically

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