Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:28 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:46 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:30 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:23 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:18 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:16 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:06 am
well I didn't vote scotty so I'm not sure what made up mechanic we are fake applying to scotty's wagon that isn't confirmed that surely must have been all my doing while I wasn't here, yup lmao
This feels rand>wolfy
I sincerely don't believe you can explain this without making huge assumptions riddled with agenda, but I do invite you to try
You are very aggressive in your defence. You use words like "made up mechanic" and "fake applying" to downplay what happened. There is a focus on "we dont know whats going on" that I feel lead to "so lets drop it", which I think is what you want us to do. The last part "that surely must have been all my doing while I wasn't here, yup lmao" is passive-aggressive and downplaying the theories.
It is like you are newly awake and have a gun in your hand tbh. Like, instead of
trying to understand what's going on you are focusing on
the fact that we currently don't know what's going on. And I find that to be a wolfy reaction to what's happening tbh
If you are town, should you not be interested in that scum saved you and went for Scotty over Nanook? Instead of aggressively defending yourself, that is tbh.
no, if i'm a wolf, I always fucking vote off scotty over nook there even if they are both town because nook didn't do jack in comparison to scotty... scotty had more townreads and would get more if left alive... that is obvious to me and when you used "scotty v nanook = PORSCHA WOLF" as an argument, that felt contrived, not thought out, and therefore I felt your posts had agenda and you made a lot of speculation in a narrow focus instead of "oh maybe this, maybe that, unsure" it wasn't broad, so your attempt at "Explanation" didn't feel real to me and it felt like an opportunistic way to jump to a conclusion that is generally agreeable "wouldn't be surprised if there was some vote manipulation that wolves had some sort of control over" but to specifically push worlds and not seek much past pushing the world and that is why it tasted so disgusting in my mouth to read your posts and yes my reaction reflects that
Cool, so scum porscha votes out Scotty, and Scotty was voted out tbh, I understand
I used several arguments, some to your benefit, some to not. Nor did I jump to a conclusion, but formed a conclusion of the information I have. Then I ultimately chose you > nanook, but that's because you gotta lean somewhere.
If you're town, you should try to approach my posts directly instead of hitting me with a run down sentence. You are not quoting anything tangible. Just hitting with anger, and I feel like that's a strategy to start a fight with me by also avoiding and meeting what I actually said. You are saying that I do not "seek much past pushing the world", but that is objectively false if you actually read my analysis. And even if you skip the longer posts, you'll notice that whilst my first reaction was "this is damning for porscha", my second was "tho Scotty died over Nanook hmm". This directly disproves your accusation and should show that I am solving and considering several worlds. Especially since I use that train of thought in my longer reasoning.
But you seem to be more happy with being Angerey and defending yourself, not solving. Like in this very post, there is zero curiosity in why I am saying something. There is zero attempt at solving my claims. No interest in the claims that are for your benefit, not much interest in my reasoning. You saw me push a wolf you thought, and went for attack mode immediately. This seek and destroy strategy is something I find more common in wolves who want to feign AtE and discourage villagers scum reading them by reacting strongly. Your posts are not generous in their interpretation of what I am saying, like I am just reading a critic here.
Compare the tone in our posts. I am calm, in control of myself, despite these posts of yours. You are not. And that's what makes me unable to town read you here. Because you have no reason as town to react with this outburst of emotion towards my posts. My posts aren't threatening you. They are trying to solve you. This makes me believe this to be fake AtE.
sorry I don't think I saw this boq, I hear you and I think you're still saying a lot of words to scum read me and I acknowledge I could have to some degree been a bit over done last night, I had just gotten home from a crazy day last night and was frayed
but I don't really like the "see i'm calm v. you crazy" argument because it isn't universally alignment indicative and I also think you have played with me enough to not have some idea in your head that "reactive" porscha = wolf porscha and a town porscha is some calm beacon of peace and light lol
I pointed out my calmness so you, if town, would understand that there is no need to go hyper aggro at me from nowhere and take it easy. If you are scum, I wanted to demonstrate to the thread that you were flailing and blowing up my posts (which felt important, because the thread seems to apply your emotional level/aggressiveness to me as well) into something they aren't.
I have seen you as scum be "lol ok" towards sus. I have seen you react like that as town too. I have seen you as town go hyper aggro to being scum read, I have seen you as scum doing that too. My problem with your approach is that the aggressiveness, from my point of view, came from absolutely nowhere, from 0 to 100 in a second. My posts were immediately considered as a threat and slander, and met as such with no desire or curiosity to approach what I was actually saying. Just a desire to find me as scum.
I do not town read what I regard as unnatural anger (which is exploding from nowhere). That looks to me like a wolf who is trying to bully off sus.
I do not town read an immediate desire to OMGUS me. That looks like a defensive wolf to me.
Like, if someone from my pov emotes hard at me, I do feel like they are trying to violently force my reads to change, and that makes me wonder why. Especially druing a night.
There has been no need to go at me as if I am a threat, and imo wolves are more prone to view prodding and theorising as threats than town.
However, another reason to post thoughts like those is to see how the thread acts.
People immediately town read you because of the skill issue thought "emotion = town".
This makes me feel, that if you are town, that folks have TMI'd you. The easiest and laziest town read wolves give is the "Lets town read the angry town". Because 1) you wont have to get OMGUS'd by them (risky). 2. Other people, often town, will come to the same conclusion anyway so you won't stand out. 3. It looks like you are solving. This is super valuable for the game.
This is strengthened by how my slot is then treated. Only WWA and Long Coke have actually read and interacted with my original theorising posts. Long Coke has pressed me for my theories, and garnered material out of that. Thats productive solving. Other people have just shrug written me off as having an argument with you, some have even called me wolfsiding (Lily), some are just asking easy questions and not really caring about the answer (Neon). I am absolutely sure that these accusations I just made will not be met with civility, but another reason to yell and scream or make a cheeky comment.
Like, I feel like my posts and approach have been characterised as a problem for the thread, or nothing. WWA even said that our discussion makes the wolves rub their hands. But this is solving. I am solving you right now, and I am solving the thread as well. I am moving the game forward by exposing thoughts and theories. If I don't do that, I will just tunnel tbh.
