The Syndicate

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:53 pm Soooo...... Who was the scumteam, other than Ender? Lol

i guess marmot tbh

You find a note in the remains of Boquise's vaporised body:

LEGACY:

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:29 pm
Flavour

No one has died

Winners:

WindwardAway, Long Con, Nanook

Everyone else is dead.

What the fuck

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:55 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:52 am Wtf is this vote option

"We got them all already, we won"
It's how we win. Once we think we've voted wolves out. We don't just auto-win when wolves are dead.

What the fuck

Wtf is this vote option

"We got them all already, we won"

At the same time, since I am in the poe, I don't think wolves went against me, and considering things, I feel like I have been secretly trusted and stuff.

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:40 am It is difficult when so little can be discussed. I feel like this* could as well be mountainous. This sorta forces me to go on a spin with what happened, and if I am wrong then am sorry tbh

Ebwop

It is difficult when so little can be discussed. I feel like hadn't could as well be mountainous. This sorta forces me to go on a spin with what happened, and if I am wrong then am sorry tbh

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:37 am I'mma be honest, that's probably the wrong take from what you've got there.

Nah

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:36 amAlright?

Sorry for your rand tbh

Am scared

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:35 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:35 am [VOTE: Ender] aubergine
your top sr?

Yes.

I wanted some sort of discussion first but eh

[VOTE: Ender] aubergine

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:27 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:47 am At the same time, I know you did not carry the NK.
you already revealed info, you're committed, speak up fast boq, no playing games when ur at extreme risk

Uhoh I am in trouble tbh

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:25 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:14 am I have very cute information tbh.

But first! Let's play a game.

Who do you guys think was the likeliest NK target?
i need moar answers
@DrWilgy
@EnderWiggin
How do you even tag someone with a star?
@WindwardAway
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Bereft

idk who else is alive tbh

@Long Con

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:24 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:20 am robyn, you can actually have a town point for saving myself from breaking the rules. The game can keep going however. I will just be careful with how I word the grand finale!
who's your top suspect boq!

i will reveal everything after our game tbh!

Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:14 am I have very cute information tbh.

But first! Let's play a game.

Who do you guys think was the likeliest NK target?

i need moar answers
@DrWilgy
@EnderWiggin
How do you even tag someone with a star?
@WindwardAway
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Bereft

idk who else is alive tbh

i also received a thing today. neat!

robyn, you can actually have a town point for saving myself from breaking the rules. The game can keep going however. I will just be careful with how I word the grand finale!

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:15 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:46 pm No Role or Alignment Claiming or Info Dumping

hmmmmmmmmmm

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 4:17 am @☆Princess Abigail☆

hurry up and vote me, so that you as town has a wasted vote and can't compete with whomever i want to chop!

stop it with this martyr stuff, we have greater things to accomplish today than you two having a duel no one else cares about tbh

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:52 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:47 am As for my read on you Robyn, I think if you are scum you'd be powerwolfing (which is why I posted this gif just now to wwa - i dont understand her logic).

It is more like, you fit the trope of a player who is in control of the game and doing them pushes. I think strategically you are were a wolf want to be in a flipless game. Theres no real sense of responsibility.

At the same time, I know you did not carry the NK.

My read circle demonstrates how my reads, at that time, were circling between various read spaces tbh
Do you think LC wasn't wolf?

Tbh in the world where Brad was town I would have to seriously think about Robyn but that would require that town!Brad:
1. Didn't leave a legacy after it was talked about 57 thousand times that day phase (because of Lily not leaving a legacy.)
2. Fell off like wolf!Brad does and only roused at the end when attempting to save himself
3. Provided none of the aggressive defense that is patent!town brad.

Like, I can't say it can never happen that those are true, but also like the likelihood I bank on this one flipless game going so far against the trend is pretty low.

I'd like to believe that Brad was a wolf due to checking so many Brad wolf boxes. But not having a legacy confounds me, because wolves could use legacies to confuse town tbh And I also know that whilst he was sorta aggressive acnh mafia at MU, he was also like "lol you guys are fucked oh well" and that Brad yeet was quite disastrous and cringe (and I am saying that as someone who iirc voted him at that point). So maybe Brad was like "lmao who cares". He was also upset at people baiting him in championship finale to be the aggressive town brad he is known for, and he was a wolf there.

So I can see a point where Brad is town, even though I voted him and kept a "brad was wolf" mindset for the reasons you are giving here tbh

I have very cute information tbh.

But first! Let's play a game.

Who do you guys think was the likeliest NK target?

faaaaaaaaaaaaaascinating

i think it is fair to sus me atp tbh
i fell down a hole after N1 tbh

As for my read on you Robyn, I think if you are scum you'd be powerwolfing (which is why I posted this gif just now to wwa - i dont understand her logic).

It is more like, you fit the trope of a player who is in control of the game and doing them pushes. I think strategically you are were a wolf want to be in a flipless game. Theres no real sense of responsibility.

At the same time, I know you did not carry the NK.

My read circle demonstrates how my reads, at that time, were circling between various read spaces tbh

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:46 am I wasn't sure if you wanted boq to answer before I do, but the wolf death rate I think is pretty simple. If you're not trying to save them from going over, or you're even voting them consistently, you're not a wolf. There's no need to bus in a flipless game.

robyn wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:39 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Sat Oct 28, 2023 3:35 am
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:47 am there's also the fact that every chop has been my call
nah
not lime coke tbh

idk why you wanna brag about this though lmao.
how else do i tilt abbie and long con

why do you want to tilt them

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:36 am Don't you guys have anything better to do?

man this is cracking me up
perfect comedic timing, 10/10

Bereft wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:07 am The "rate of wolves dying". Yeah I'm sure robyn was responsible for marmot dying by inactivity. I'm not particularly sure what's going in this game but you would've thought wolves straight up gave up so far.

judging by my own play, i'd say town are the ones giving up. I find flipless super difficult to solve around, especially flipless + secret role list. So I feel like I am just randomly pressing buttons over here tbh. What makes you think wolves gave up?

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:47 am there's also the fact that every chop has been my call

nah
not lime coke tbh

idk why you wanna brag about this though lmao.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:55 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:54 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 7:45 pm Well, I'll probably die tonight, robyn, so you won't need to worry about me voting you again. It's actually good that I die, to let a town power role live.
ur wrong on me
Maybe, but the things you said that were meant to convince me had the effect of making me more suspicious of you. Most of it, I read on my phone, during sneaky getaways from work. Didn't you say you do this as a wolf? I was like, "ah, good point, town for sure!" you know? If I'm even remembering what I read.

Tomorrow is a Halloween party I'm attending ,and my costume isn't complete. Most of my time tonight will be that, not rereading the night.

I'm sorry that my playstyle causes you frustration. You sound like you know a lot about Mafia, but my own experience contradicts much of what you say. No one cares or wants to hear about multiball crap so I'll spoiler it:

Spoiler: show
Again, only read through once and there were many posts I had responses to in my head. Won't get it all.

I've played and hosted games where the Independent team is one player, two players, three... they have had weird win conditions, murderous win conditions, recruitment, survival. We don't know the win conditions of the renters or the win conditions of the government agents. I am absolutely sure that those two factions exist, and I am interest only in the deaths of each and every one of them.

I have played on multiball mafia teams where we do nightkill prominent town, for various reasons, such as: -they're too damn good with their suspicions -it will implicate someone not on our team
-we believe the other baddie team will kill enough town to make it worthwhile to hunt them by day, and kill the unlynchable by night. The way you dictate how the kills 'would go' sounds like you learned it in a classroom, but that assuredly is not how games play out most of the time.

Not to mention that this is flipless, so believing you can divine the division of teams in this game through what you think the alignment of the dead is, is double-blind, yet you state it like it's a law of nature that everyone obviously knows.

I want to find the middle ground here. Do you disagree with any of the following: There are three factions. Landlords, Renters, Government Agents. The Landlords are considered Town, and you and I both claim to be Landlords. In order to win, we (Landlords) need to eliminate the Renters and the Government Agents. We don't know what their Win Conditions are.
Also, I can't believe you guys fell for that. S~V~S and I planned that whole legacy in scumchat in order to townclear me. So gullible, I couldn't even keep it up.

i actually like it a lot that you brought forward the, now in hindsight, obvious thing that scum can just fake a role in their legacy and stuff. I am way too gullible and too easily read things straightforward without asking questions smh

aside from having my regular cleaning + go and drink coffee and read/write at the local café, I will be much more around in this game now when I am only playing 1 game (this one) tbh!

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:11 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:39 am if we have yeeted 2 wolves, Robyn is cleared.
We haven't

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 9:13 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:05 am

There was something to be found in S~V~S' shoe

Legacy Day 3: Legacy Day Three SVS: I’m town, I’m a limited parity checker. I never had this kind of role before and I was looking forward to using it, but figured the jokes on me! Parity checking in a closed set up with no flips won’t tell me much, plus I only choose one target, the second person is random. I have three shots, Night One I chose Long Con, and Random. org chose Marmot ... and they came back two different alignments! LC as Hat, Marmot as Boot. I didn't know which was which though. Night Two though, I got lucky. I checked Windward cause I was pretty sure she was town, and she came back Hat! Same as LC. Random. org picked ME!! And I came back Hat too. So WWA and LC are town, since I am, too. Marmot is NOT town. He's a boot, a bad boot. So let's see who pushes back the hardest to save the boot!

A thorough search of Marmot's body turns up no sign of any legacy.

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:28 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:05 am

There was something to be found in S~V~S' shoe

Legacy Day 3: Legacy Day Three SVS: I’m town, I’m a limited parity checker. I never had this kind of role before and I was looking forward to using it, but figured the jokes on me! Parity checking in a closed set up with no flips won’t tell me much, plus I only choose one target, the second person is random. I have three shots, Night One I chose Long Con, and Random. org chose Marmot ... and they came back two different alignments! LC as Hat, Marmot as Boot. I didn't know which was which though. Night Two though, I got lucky. I checked Windward cause I was pretty sure she was town, and she came back Hat! Same as LC. Random. org picked ME!! And I came back Hat too. So WWA and LC are town, since I am, too. Marmot is NOT town. He's a boot, a bad boot. So let's see who pushes back the hardest to save the boot!

A thorough search of Marmot's body turns up no sign of any legacy.

so Marmot likely scum
Thats good info.

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:07 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:42 am @Robyn have you made any claims that I need to know to be up to speed?
i’m gay nya

(read rules, claims are a modkill)

yes
i was confused when i read your posts in a rush tbh

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:05 am

There was something to be found in S~V~S' shoe

Legacy Day 3: Legacy Day Three SVS: I’m town, I’m a limited parity checker. I never had this kind of role before and I was looking forward to using it, but figured the jokes on me! Parity checking in a closed set up with no flips won’t tell me much, plus I only choose one target, the second person is random. I have three shots, Night One I chose Long Con, and Random. org chose Marmot ... and they came back two different alignments! LC as Hat, Marmot as Boot. I didn't know which was which though. Night Two though, I got lucky. I checked Windward cause I was pretty sure she was town, and she came back Hat! Same as LC. Random. org picked ME!! And I came back Hat too. So WWA and LC are town, since I am, too. Marmot is NOT town. He's a boot, a bad boot. So let's see who pushes back the hardest to save the boot!

A thorough search of Marmot's body turns up no sign of any legacy.

so Marmot likely scum
Thats good info.

In my read-up I thought SVS was townie, but I wanted a definite wagon.
On another hand, maybe I shouldve voted Wilgy to see what scum do.

oh well.

[VOTE: Vote SVS] aubergine

this feels very shruggy, but I will have more time tomorrow.

@robyn what have your targets been during the nights

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:47 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:28 am
robyn wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:20 am wigly's life hangs in the balance, cause wwa and schweppes don't vote me
If it's really that important that I go over, that's fine, but I really do think there's better options as it stands. Dying before those options feels bad-ish?
it's important that i don't go over, you've been posting well enough to survive but if i though the votes would ever split between me and you i'd strong arm ur chop without caring about ur flip

Why?

I am noticing a block of Nanook-Robyn-Ender tbh

okay there was no claim or anything, I am up to speed, skimmed the pages I have missed

@Robyn have you made any claims that I need to know to be up to speed?

Split wagons
20 minutes to go
I have a lesson

lets do this

if we have yeeted 2 wolves, Robyn is cleared.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 26, 2023 8:05 am If there's 2 wolf teams then the NK could still be wolves from the other team.

Why would this be a thing?

Sorry guys for my inactivity, I am working on a project for my students rn and idk when i will be done

I agree with the reasons to scum read Brad.
So could assume that Lily was the vote manip role.

We'll see how wolves play next day's wagons.

I feel like these fellas are town:
Nanook, Porscha, WWA,
with a maybe on Bereft and Long Con

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