The Syndicate

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:27 am Wilgy entry not calling himself a doctor #45 not good

most ppl have opened up this game by not calling themselves doctor. Syn/lucy/me/pyxxy/seanzie/neon... etc. Not sure what point you are making here

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:27 am Wilgy undermining a good read by Syn in replying to a wolf buddy and not to syns original attack #66

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:18 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:17 pm wilgy is way too present to be town tbh
Heheheheheh implying I can be quantified in this manner.

imagine shading me for not reading smh

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:27 am Neon pushing back against two wolves in thread looks good for her #67/68

67? Really?

im really trying to give your wall a chance but when you make dog water points while being confbiased, i think you accidentally won KOTH if this is exactly what you have done to win that game

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:27 am lol tutuu #81 - I now see this as doc fishing later or setting up to talk about mechanics / doc fishing

I could see tutuu's later posts trying to "organize" something as being potentially role-fishy which made me express concern at the time with me basically saying im not sure how you would organize something without spewing people one way or another at the very least

oh and tutuu also just hasn't really returned to the mech ideas they had earlier I think

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:27 am Tutuu defense of Syn #95 not out of wolf range but still feeling town - read on, it gets in wolf range

was this written post-this?

that might be a dumb question nvm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:27 am Lucy spewing tutuu town #111 and soft shading wilgy for later

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:09 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:05 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:51 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:48 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:24 pm good to know syn is a useless townie
thanks

i love toxicity
i said "good to know syn is a useless townie" to see if you would push me for wolfslipping you as town

i was gonna have you as my top town after that, but you didn't which means you're not actively solving my slot

v unfortunate
let me try to gauge this situation

since u asked syn that question earlier that leads me to believe u never played with him before. im ... i wouldnt say super familiar, but relatively familiar with him

he isn't the type to push people for wolfslipping when they call him townie. he doesn't care about stuff like that, i think

the main focus for him, in that post of yours, was the word "useless" not "townie". and his response was very normal for him

i'd like to believe you were bantering with him / being ratchety when you called him useless, but he doesn't react to it well unless it's from his friends that he knows for sure don't mean it in a belittling way

im just trying to interject in here, because i believe that you are reaction testing in a ratchety way to generate reactions and spew alignments (or ur a wolf trying to look like ur doing it obv), but i also believe the only thing this will accomplish is make syn feel bad, and nothing AI will come out of it, especially if u push him more in this specific way
ty for the meta, i've never played with him before yeah, why didn't wigly give me the meta?

also ty again for letting me know it was normal/nai

so are they both confident mafia or no?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:27 am Seanzie slamming lucy here #117 looks good for him. Might be TMI on a partner being wolfy. But mostly just town
Lucy spewing Seanzie town #118
Seanzie forming a good push on Lucy with no wavering #119
Lucy wolftelling #120
Lucy trying to discredit Seanzie #121 and distract him with others

I thought 118 was a joke post

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:17 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 10:16 pm [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine serious vote
it's taking restraint to not attack you personally

Perhaps foreshadowing but I have pushed town lucy day 1 and never got this visceral reaction out of her.

lucy is technically correct in that Seanzie didn't say why he voted her. The reaction could be a wolf tell, especially at RVS

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:27 am Wilgy soft defense of Cape #161
Tutuu soft defense of wilgy #166

surprised u didnt call out tutuu's "soft defense" of me.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:27 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:26 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:27 am Wilgy soft defense of Cape #161
Tutuu soft defense of wilgy #166
surprised u didnt call out tutuu's "soft defense" of me.
might have missed it. If so please put it in. ty. I am only human

you mentioned it later saying you deliberately ignored it for that time i think

in fact you did

It's hard reading Rondo's bullshit wall since it's so confbiased. All i can say is i beleive everything i say and rondo can eat my shit when i flip town

hes a terribad player

not taking rondo seriously when i am just left confused by most of the points he made that are not...

"hey look this person townreads someone i dont like, they are scum"

i said it

im sorry i just... my brain was melting reading that

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:13 am reading about who is to blame for the incoming ML makes me sad and annoyed. PLease stop and play.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:40 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:36 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:33 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:51 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:48 pm

thanks

i love toxicity
i said "good to know syn is a useless townie" to see if you would push me for wolfslipping you as town

i was gonna have you as my top town after that, but you didn't which means you're not actively solving my slot

v unfortunate
I low key noticed something similar in Syn trying to make a Wilgy presence read as opposed to interacting with my read list.
You noticed what?
@DrWilgy
Behavior indicative of not solving.

At that point I had felt that I had given the thread at least something in the form of a bullshit reads list. Several tried to interface with it so it was odd when Syn didn't.
Why would he since it was obvious it was BS? I would question the folks who engaged with it lol. But you didn't and were happy to discuss it when it was obviously just rand or TMI.

Beside how is him posting a read about you and explaning it is not indicative of solving? Within the first 2 hours?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:41 am rough rand Wilgy?

I like the point petit makes about Syn making a read on Wigly's presence to be technically Syn doing something solvy.

I question the colored part though as I am not sure why this automatically incriminates the people who have engaged with the readslist. It's interesting how Wigly calls it a bullshit readslist when it seems Wigly has held a townread on me

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:13 am reading about who is to blame for the incoming ML makes me sad and annoyed. PLease stop and play.

i meant to comment on this post as i found it noteworthy for Le Petit just kinda coming in and announcing that lucy will be a ML

Sheep is extremely towny i must say

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:29 am I maintain that the bereft wagon is bad unless it's gotten better since last I checked

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:28 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:26 am Even without me my plan will win the game so I am pretty much going to no / low post d2 onwards

I should take a page out of your book and solve the game in the first 500 posts next time, never re-evaluating.

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:31 am ok
I'm just going to ignore Rondo and hope he dies. Have fun in your tunnel(s)!!

I think I will just quote these 3 posts for reference. I guarantee you Sheep would NEVER as mafia post that middle quote.

Ima just rant for a second

last night this game became very annoying, didn't help I was tired, but when lucy was pushed by someone who lucy said was borderline outing, but also... TWTBAW? But then lucy just kind of self-voted and said "I hate all of you and hope town loses" basically. Then keeps threatening to leave, comes back to complain more, susses neon, and now I see that they did like... an ISO on DrWigly. You see I think lucy's just randomness that happened after she got pushed is just town. I don't see why they don't just defend normally. They are way less likely to get votes. IMO scum are just more likely just to be like "blah blah blah these are the reasons why im town" instead of having the overblown reaction lucy did. Lucy's whole thing just seems so sloppy if they are wolf. And it's not like I disagree that I think Neon could be wolf, it's hard to tell with them sometimes, but they do still feel a bit... off from my experience with her.

When I had the expectation this was gonna be a fairly chill game, this got me on edge though and I apologize to Rondo, I was just easily annoyed at stuff.

Now concerning that, I do ask Rondo a question... If all of me/lucy/tutuu/DrWigly were all just gone, we all got thanos snapped per se, where would the content be? A lot of it has revolved around us. I townread lucy and DrWigly early on because they seemed to be the ones that were getting the game going with stuff and things.

While I was never a fan of the mech stuff that tutuu was doing, I townread most of the other things because I just found myself nodding along to them... sometimes, I wasn't sure what the DrWigly mech townread was about at the time.

While I found tutuu's shift of Rondo a bit abrupt, I didn't find tutuu's townread on Bereft to be that way.

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:34 am I do not understand why you all are still engaging with Rondo. It's obvious they're just going to keep spitting out responses to justify their "readlists" each time any one of you says something. And yes I do believe this implies that most of their responses have been unserious.

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:40 am There exists an alternate universe where I publicly give lucy a townread, but in that universe they also have not made statements to the effect of "rondo should've found me town by now", which I shouldn't have to point out why its absurd.

These 2 posts happened between the null read and the town read and these are a couple of the towniest things Bereft had said up to that point. Which is why I questioned Rondo about it specifically.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:15 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:57 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:13 am reading about who is to blame for the incoming ML makes me sad and annoyed. PLease stop and play.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:40 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:36 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:33 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 pm

I low key noticed something similar in Syn trying to make a Wilgy presence read as opposed to interacting with my read list.
You noticed what?
@DrWilgy
Behavior indicative of not solving.

At that point I had felt that I had given the thread at least something in the form of a bullshit reads list. Several tried to interface with it so it was odd when Syn didn't.
Why would he since it was obvious it was BS? I would question the folks who engaged with it lol. But you didn't and were happy to discuss it when it was obviously just rand or TMI.

Beside how is him posting a read about you and explaning it is not indicative of solving? Within the first 2 hours?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:41 am rough rand Wilgy?
I like the point petit makes about Syn making a read on Wigly's presence to be technically Syn doing something solvy.

I question the colored part though as I am not sure why this automatically incriminates the people who have engaged with the readslist. It's interesting how Wigly calls it a bullshit readslist when it seems Wigly has held a townread on me
it doesn't necessarily, it's just the part I would look into. My point was that Wilgy's read wasn't based. Since it was obvious Syn had some solving going on at that point. It's not me locking Syn or whatever, it's just Wilgy's post doesn't make sense from someone guessing Syn, more from someone willing to push there. I want to read more about them though before making a call on the slot though.

I did interpret it this way but i just didn't speak well since it was night when i posted that

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:17 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:00 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:13 am reading about who is to blame for the incoming ML makes me sad and annoyed. PLease stop and play.
i meant to comment on this post as i found it noteworthy for Le Petit just kinda coming in and announcing that lucy will be a ML
Read these pages again. It's literally lucy who was posting this. It's not a me read.

oh ok i get this comment now

i got sidetracked irl

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:56 am Remembers a votecount and recounts it to the thread, suggests it might be important (townie and trying to solve/ form a long term worldview

im not sure when Wigly ever did this

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:17 am Agrees with tutuu’s readslist and agrees with cape and disagrees when syn says all wolves were in the town list

I'm NGL I thought this was the other way around for Neon

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:48 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:57 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:56 am DrWigly iso

► Show Spoiler
“Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W
(votes neon)”
Does this on page 1 and pushes neon because she wasn’t partaking in the sexual innuendo fest, which he partakes in himself, and because she was low energy (actually trying to solve and understand neon which is towny)
Laughs off syn shade
Is generally jokey, in line with the established game tone, idk whether it’s natural or intentionally trying to fit in
A bunch of card game posts with neon
And noticed the same thing about weird syn shade, supports my reasoning
Retorts to syn that 2 people have reacted to his readslist (keeping track)
Asks why seanzie thinks im a wolf, trying to understand seanzie
Adds “Also add to that list
Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T”
To his readlist
Is generally joking around and having a good time in the thread, seems natural and not stilted and not pushing an agenda
Responds to a falcon post and asks falcon why cape is scummy
Denies that an action is towny for wigly (very rand scumy)
Bereft calls me impatient and he votes bereft and declines his tr on bereft
“I agree alot with Tutuu. Let's say they are pro town for now.

Lucy,
Cape,
Falcon
Porscha

As well.

Berefts declination of reads is a red flag and Seanzies bait votes not moving or accumulating anything is a red flag.”
More reads, drops syn from his townreads (townie fmpov)
Asks if a seanzie read is reliant on what i flip
Posts sensible reads on me/cape/neon/tutuu which i generally agree with
Questions why pyxxy tr’s cape for what wigly finds as nai (townie and trying to understand reads)
Remembers a votecount and recounts it to the thread, suggests it might be important (townie and trying to solve/ form a long term worldview
cape/falcon towncore, i don’t understand falcon but i never have, hard agree with cape
Rondo town/i’m scum and thinks sheep looks bad from the interactions (lacks tmi because he knows i would flip town and he would openly pre push sheep and he gave no justification for that read, rings townie because usually wolves add reasoning to those reads so they don’t forget)
Adds falcon/cape/rondo to towncore and explains general stuff happening during the game and what rondo has been doing, me/syn being a difference check (good read, i’d have done the same as someone not in this mess)
Tries to understand rondo further and townreads cape openly with reasoning in the thread, i strongly believe cape is town so him adding someone else to generally consensus town who is lhf is very pro town
Points out how syn isn’t solving (correct)

townread btw
I will admit that I have a personal problem ever trusting wilgy but I've already had that feeling I had the 1 time I caught him wolfing where its ... it's the sinking feeling that I'm gonna have to take him out back the shed

Like I could be wrong here

And I'm unsure I can put it into words rn

Day 2 I can get on my comp and sit there and force myself to articulate about specific posts or patterns but that wont happen by day 1 due to my time constraints

i'm slightly confused by this but also find it pretty towny

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:36 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:17 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:40 am
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:37 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:36 am
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:35 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:32 am sheep is here doing nothing while rondo tunnels me lol
What do you expect me to do?
pick a side
my side is that rondo's being dumb and you're probably town.
problem is rondo is being extremely fucking scummy in his pushes and reads that its basically too wolfy to be a wolf

why do u tr me
TWTBW does not exist.

If you call someone TWTBW than they are either a wolf or a detriment to town who will be a designated misexe in F(X) either way they should always be killed with impunity.
giggles.

@Neon what had you done that you thought you were obviously out of wolf range?

honestly, in a way I believe the same thing as Neon, but sometimes I will use TWTBAW in short game scenarios just to describe a vibe moreso then actually calling someone TWTBAW literally... if that makes sense

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:32 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:27 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:26 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:25 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:17 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:14 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:12 am What if I just did a stealth vote switch here
Not a good look from neon, switching LPP out and neon in
Why ask thread instead of just doing it
To be fair I did do it lol
Yeh but I wanted rondo to tell me why it was sr worthy
I too would like to no
Its simple your dismissal of my view of your scummy theatre with lucy plus moving your vote at an opportune time after the chaos shows that you can't be town core and cape voting for lpp moves him Up win win

this is word salad. First off, I really only qualify "opportune time" when it comes to voting without a majority rule to be near EOD. I wouldn't say it's opportunistic to vote in the middle of the day even if there is a lot happening. I don't know what "moves him up" means? Moves him up in terms of scum equity??? I have felt like moving off of Le Petit though tbh as they have seemed level headed this game.

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

For now i guess? I still am skimdiving catching up

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:56 am Okay, ISOing Bereft makes me think they're just a hit. Short ISO so I recommend y'all peruse.

They seem to only be focusing on Lucy (with a little OMGUS shade at Cape), and I ThInK they're scumreading Lucy? but I am not sure and don't really get their take. Instead it's just responding. They seem to consider "worlds where Lucy is town", but this looks more like lip service than anything. ISO ends with a meta townread on Sheep, which is meh.

Bad bad Bereft Brown, baddest man in the whole damn town, madder than ole' king kong, meaner than the junkyard dog.

I think their posts got better later on but I feel like they could fit the archetype of wolf that seems to have towny takes. Though it does bother me this post which it feels like you have more thoughts then you have expressed, but you have a lot more posts i havent read yet soz i will hold that thought

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:03 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:54 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:36 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:17 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:40 am
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:37 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:36 am

pick a side
my side is that rondo's being dumb and you're probably town.
problem is rondo is being extremely fucking scummy in his pushes and reads that its basically too wolfy to be a wolf

why do u tr me
TWTBW does not exist.

If you call someone TWTBW than they are either a wolf or a detriment to town who will be a designated misexe in F(X) either way they should always be killed with impunity.
giggles.

@Neon what had you done that you thought you were obviously out of wolf range?
honestly, in a way I believe the same thing as Neon, but sometimes I will use TWTBAW in short game scenarios just to describe a vibe moreso then actually calling someone TWTBAW literally... if that makes sense
ok. I wasn't giggling because of Neon's view on TWTBAW fwiw. Moreso because they like to be unreadable and won't do a s!%? to improve the situation (this isn't fair to you Neon, u were obv town in goc ), which would be policed by so many players it's not funny. I mean respect yourself and your wolf range, don't be shy, be townie when u actually rand villa (whatever that means for you).

1. do not talk OGI plz
2. I have an okay wolf range but feel like I am overestimated to how good of a wolf I am
3. It means right now, and I am being towny. Get good at reading me

ugh im so behind I think I will just ISO and see why tf Le Petit is voting tutuu who seemed like the most obvious town to me in terms of seeming to want to move the game along. Besides Rondo later on

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:34 pm In the meantime i'm going to go read some ISOs

hm
wait
who tf is rondo townreading

uh anyhow

cape first because that's easiest

What makes me the easiest person to read? I feel like I am pretty polarized.

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:18 pm Oh nvm
that was a short ISO and it was baically
Part 1: Pushing Wilgy
Part 2: Pushing tutuu

I would rather probably not hang them today because they said weekends are bad for them but also I don't think they've been towny atm

I will keep this in mind, but it really doesn't tell me much of anything that didn't seem like a given

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:19 pm Read list
not bereft

bereft

not bereft

im not sure what this means

Sheep wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:39 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 12:30 am
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:51 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:48 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:24 pm good to know syn is a useless townie
thanks

i love toxicity
i said "good to know syn is a useless townie" to see if you would push me for wolfslipping you as town

i was gonna have you as my top town after that, but you didn't which means you're not actively solving my slot

v unfortunate
Nobody in their right mind reads a comment like that and thinks "this is wolf making a perspective slip on town" LMAO
This post confuses me tbh.

Also I've potentially figured out why the game's being so difficult in the first few pages, it's because the game didn't all exit RVS at the same time

okay

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:37 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:01 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:59 am @Seanzie u are voting for one of my toe core and getting voted by another one of my toe cores

U are mafia and u will be chopped in about 19 hours
Toe cores sound painful.

Who was voting for me, and why is Bereft town?
Toe cores

anyhow
seanzie talk to me about your bereft read
They're outed mafia. They've done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things and not take stances while lightly shading Lucy. They more-or-less tried to discredit Rondo, whom is a difficult person for scum to play around (this is assuming Rondo is town, which has at least like a 72.89% chance of being true), and they claimed to be townspewed even though I don't see it. The last game I played with them, I almost instantly got the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested, and I have not gotten that feeling at all here (they were town last game, so this is a pretty stark contrast from that). Besides, they're outed mafia.
Hmm.
1) "Claiming to be townspewed"-- I'm 83.2% sure is because everybody was townreading him
2) Trying to discredit rondo -- I kind of agree with him on this so idk what to tell you
3) Rondo is a difficult for scum to play around -- He's also difficult for town to play around? Unless you think that Rondo is only pushing wolves and everybody should just recognize that which I don't think you do
4) "Done nothing but focus on weird irrelevant things" / lacking "the feeling that they had a depth of understanding of the gamestate far beyond what some of their posts suggested" -- Lemme think about this one I get where you're coming from but I'm not sure why I don't agree
5) lightly shading lucy -- meh whatever

aaaaaaaand sheep is town. ISO links on page 1 are kinda buggy

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:07 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:54 am The biggest thing giving me pause is that she specifically kept tagging me. And treated me as town even as I pushed her. There was no doubt. I know I'm town.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost6530866
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost6530875

read around here, i do this a lot

if lucy wolf could just pull things up like this im kinda scared

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:28 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:13 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:03 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:54 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:36 pm
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:17 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:40 am

problem is rondo is being extremely fucking scummy in his pushes and reads that its basically too wolfy to be a wolf

why do u tr me
TWTBW does not exist.

If you call someone TWTBW than they are either a wolf or a detriment to town who will be a designated misexe in F(X) either way they should always be killed with impunity.
giggles.

@Neon what had you done that you thought you were obviously out of wolf range?
honestly, in a way I believe the same thing as Neon, but sometimes I will use TWTBAW in short game scenarios just to describe a vibe moreso then actually calling someone TWTBAW literally... if that makes sense
ok. I wasn't giggling because of Neon's view on TWTBAW fwiw. Moreso because they like to be unreadable and won't do a s!%? to improve the situation (this isn't fair to you Neon, u were obv town in goc ), which would be policed by so many players it's not funny. I mean respect yourself and your wolf range, don't be shy, be townie when u actually rand villa (whatever that means for you).
1. do not talk OGI plz
2. I have an okay wolf range but feel like I am overestimated to how good of a wolf I am
3. It means right now, and I am being towny. Get good at reading me
?

That was a general answer to your general comment. Nothing related to this particular game. I already posted u were being townie here. Sorry u took it wrong lol, it really wasn't meant that way.

oh okay i haven't read many of your posts in general but you seem to be in everyone's POEs which from realtiming, im not sure I necessarily see. But alright. I did mean to speak about your neon comment but i didnt have anything to add except for a nod ig

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:20 pm catching up. I read to around #850 last night? but uh I was pretty uncomfortable with the neon lucy rondo situation. hoping something has settled from that

probably going to miss eod, being dragged to a plant sale

noted

not sure i like how quickly lucy hopped into the thread and out with most of her contributions recently having been self-defense

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:05 pm
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:00 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:34 am cape is lock town imo and i have a tentative tr on neon

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:46 am to answer both of u (cape and porscha):

i dont know how to read wilgy. all i know is that he likes to chill. he's all about the chill. i thought that him making 5 reads and a vote 1 hour into the game means he's more interested / engaged than usual, and i thought it might be towny, hence i also put a question mark

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:52 am i was going to vote with my queen lucy but i really like pyxxy he's really fun and he likes me a lot too it would break my heart to vote him for now so ill vote with cape

(i just clicked on the poll to vote for whoever he's voting and i literally forgot who it is as im writing this but it doesnt matter)

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:52 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 1:52 am i was going to vote with my queen lucy but i really like pyxxy he's really fun and he likes me a lot too it would break my heart to vote him for now so ill vote with cape

(i just clicked on the poll to vote for whoever he's voting and i literally forgot who it is as im writing this but it doesnt matter)
towny post
Impressive streak tutuu. So cape is lock town because wat? Post 244 I presume. Then out of this literal mech clear, u hand him ur vote???
The three question marks at the end are scummy

i do this all the time. it really isn't that deep

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:18 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:15 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:08 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:05 pm The three question marks at the end are scummy
towny post

scum mad coz im townreading myself
Kinda feels like Tutuu has TMI here.

from what I saw, Seanzie made this joke read and Seanzie said that you were too focused this game compared to Cartomacy (whatever that means lol). If you left out arguments in your ISO tutuu I will be susp of that

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:41 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:57 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:13 am reading about who is to blame for the incoming ML makes me sad and annoyed. PLease stop and play.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:40 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:36 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:33 am
Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:31 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:56 pm

I low key noticed something similar in Syn trying to make a Wilgy presence read as opposed to interacting with my read list.
You noticed what?
@DrWilgy
Behavior indicative of not solving.

At that point I had felt that I had given the thread at least something in the form of a bullshit reads list. Several tried to interface with it so it was odd when Syn didn't.
Why would he since it was obvious it was BS? I would question the folks who engaged with it lol. But you didn't and were happy to discuss it when it was obviously just rand or TMI.

Beside how is him posting a read about you and explaning it is not indicative of solving? Within the first 2 hours?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:41 am rough rand Wilgy?
I like the point petit makes about Syn making a read on Wigly's presence to be technically Syn doing something solvy.

I question the colored part though as I am not sure why this automatically incriminates the people who have engaged with the readslist. It's interesting how Wigly calls it a bullshit readslist when it seems Wigly has held a townread on me
Aye, that one hasn't shifted too horribly.

My read on you has evolved like this :
Cape is causing movement In RVS, that's towny enough, also I really don't wanna yeet cape d1 again, it happens too much.

Cape stated some odd plurality, concern.

Cape said it was a misquote, ok.

Oh, Cape is actually thinking about the game critically, I've seen this from town cape before.

That's about it. It's a strong enough read I think to stand by it.

fair enough I do like this sort of talked out thought process

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:37 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:17 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:34 pm In the meantime i'm going to go read some ISOs

hm
wait
who tf is rondo townreading

uh anyhow

cape first because that's easiest
What makes me the easiest person to read? I feel like I am pretty polarized.
lol. maybe it is just that Cape.

Sheep doesn't have a lot of experience with me when I am scum, in fact I am pretty sure none outside of turbo games, which I have a vastly different meta from as both town and mafia so I was questioning Sheep about me being the easiest to read, and then he townreads me off of having detailed content or whatever? It's like Sheep acted like afterwards that I was an exhausting read after saying I was an easy read. Sheep isn't the type of person to metadive on players from my experience.

Sheep wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:00 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:08 pm Porscha hasn't done too much this game but I have thoughts on the falcon thing

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:29 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:28 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:27 am Gathered very little from it
do u have a read on me/falcon
Meh gth you're both town for now
Porscha makes this read on lucy and falcon

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:37 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:33 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:30 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:28 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:27 am Gathered very little from it
do u have a read on me/falcon
Why did you ask specifically about yourself and falcon
i’m interested about your perception of me in particular, i can’t read falcon to save my life and u said u could
I personally disagree with cape that falcon has done anything ai yet tbh
And why interested in my perception of you
Then Porscha randomly says they disagree with me that falcon has done anything AI.
This leads me to believe that Porscha sheeped my read or that my read at least had influence in Porscha saying she had gth called falcon town despite saying he has done nothing that is alignment indicative.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:34 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 3:13 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:37 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:33 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:30 am

Why did you ask specifically about yourself and falcon
i’m interested about your perception of me in particular, i can’t read falcon to save my life and u said u could
I personally disagree with cape that falcon has done anything ai yet tbh
And why interested in my perception of you
So did you townread falcon just because you townread me?
The best way to explain it would be to say... there is 1-100 in my head. Everyone starts at 50 until I see some ai content. If someone is sitting at 50, which I pretty much consider neutral, they can have gth day 1 tr by posting and hitting 51 instead of 50
But when I asked about this, it kinda just left me with more questions.
Like okay so did for instance falcon's push on me tip the scales for Porscha into town territory? What post made it happen?
Porscha quite literally is in contradiction with what they just said with
I personally disagree with cape that falcon has done anything ai yet tbh
so like
grrr
i can't articulate it
smth smth natural smth smth relaxed smth smth this post is solving idk
eh rondo's town list looks fine (besides bereft) i think but i wouldn't be that confident tbh

*oops wrote this a bit ago then got distracted aorry

^im referring to this

Spoiler: show

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:54 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:48 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:57 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:56 am DrWigly iso

► Show Spoiler
“Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W
(votes neon)”
Does this on page 1 and pushes neon because she wasn’t partaking in the sexual innuendo fest, which he partakes in himself, and because she was low energy (actually trying to solve and understand neon which is towny)
Laughs off syn shade
Is generally jokey, in line with the established game tone, idk whether it’s natural or intentionally trying to fit in
A bunch of card game posts with neon
And noticed the same thing about weird syn shade, supports my reasoning
Retorts to syn that 2 people have reacted to his readslist (keeping track)
Asks why seanzie thinks im a wolf, trying to understand seanzie
Adds “Also add to that list
Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T”
To his readlist
Is generally joking around and having a good time in the thread, seems natural and not stilted and not pushing an agenda
Responds to a falcon post and asks falcon why cape is scummy
Denies that an action is towny for wigly (very rand scumy)
Bereft calls me impatient and he votes bereft and declines his tr on bereft
“I agree alot with Tutuu. Let's say they are pro town for now.

Lucy,
Cape,
Falcon
Porscha

As well.

Berefts declination of reads is a red flag and Seanzies bait votes not moving or accumulating anything is a red flag.”
More reads, drops syn from his townreads (townie fmpov)
Asks if a seanzie read is reliant on what i flip
Posts sensible reads on me/cape/neon/tutuu which i generally agree with
Questions why pyxxy tr’s cape for what wigly finds as nai (townie and trying to understand reads)
Remembers a votecount and recounts it to the thread, suggests it might be important (townie and trying to solve/ form a long term worldview
cape/falcon towncore, i don’t understand falcon but i never have, hard agree with cape
Rondo town/i’m scum and thinks sheep looks bad from the interactions (lacks tmi because he knows i would flip town and he would openly pre push sheep and he gave no justification for that read, rings townie because usually wolves add reasoning to those reads so they don’t forget)
Adds falcon/cape/rondo to towncore and explains general stuff happening during the game and what rondo has been doing, me/syn being a difference check (good read, i’d have done the same as someone not in this mess)
Tries to understand rondo further and townreads cape openly with reasoning in the thread, i strongly believe cape is town so him adding someone else to generally consensus town who is lhf is very pro town
Points out how syn isn’t solving (correct)

townread btw
I will admit that I have a personal problem ever trusting wilgy but I've already had that feeling I had the 1 time I caught him wolfing where its ... it's the sinking feeling that I'm gonna have to take him out back the shed

Like I could be wrong here

And I'm unsure I can put it into words rn

Day 2 I can get on my comp and sit there and force myself to articulate about specific posts or patterns but that wont happen by day 1 due to my time constraints
But also there was no reason for wilgy to tr me that early
Cape pointed out wilgy called it a fake reads list but seemed to maintain his read in cape as if it was real
I liked the pushback from lpp on wilgy on this page where I responded it was hot
But maybe I'm already confbiasing myself I'll try to keep my mind open but I love wilgy too much that it clouds my ability to see clearly 👁👁 so I am never feeling good about trusting myself when reading him

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:48 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:57 am
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:56 am DrWigly iso

► Show Spoiler
“Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W
(votes neon)”
Does this on page 1 and pushes neon because she wasn’t partaking in the sexual innuendo fest, which he partakes in himself, and because she was low energy (actually trying to solve and understand neon which is towny)
Laughs off syn shade
Is generally jokey, in line with the established game tone, idk whether it’s natural or intentionally trying to fit in
A bunch of card game posts with neon
And noticed the same thing about weird syn shade, supports my reasoning
Retorts to syn that 2 people have reacted to his readslist (keeping track)
Asks why seanzie thinks im a wolf, trying to understand seanzie
Adds “Also add to that list
Seanzie N
Bereft T
Porscha T”
To his readlist
Is generally joking around and having a good time in the thread, seems natural and not stilted and not pushing an agenda
Responds to a falcon post and asks falcon why cape is scummy
Denies that an action is towny for wigly (very rand scumy)
Bereft calls me impatient and he votes bereft and declines his tr on bereft
“I agree alot with Tutuu. Let's say they are pro town for now.

Lucy,
Cape,
Falcon
Porscha

As well.

Berefts declination of reads is a red flag and Seanzies bait votes not moving or accumulating anything is a red flag.”
More reads, drops syn from his townreads (townie fmpov)
Asks if a seanzie read is reliant on what i flip
Posts sensible reads on me/cape/neon/tutuu which i generally agree with
Questions why pyxxy tr’s cape for what wigly finds as nai (townie and trying to understand reads)
Remembers a votecount and recounts it to the thread, suggests it might be important (townie and trying to solve/ form a long term worldview
cape/falcon towncore, i don’t understand falcon but i never have, hard agree with cape
Rondo town/i’m scum and thinks sheep looks bad from the interactions (lacks tmi because he knows i would flip town and he would openly pre push sheep and he gave no justification for that read, rings townie because usually wolves add reasoning to those reads so they don’t forget)
Adds falcon/cape/rondo to towncore and explains general stuff happening during the game and what rondo has been doing, me/syn being a difference check (good read, i’d have done the same as someone not in this mess)
Tries to understand rondo further and townreads cape openly with reasoning in the thread, i strongly believe cape is town so him adding someone else to generally consensus town who is lhf is very pro town
Points out how syn isn’t solving (correct)

townread btw
I will admit that I have a personal problem ever trusting wilgy but I've already had that feeling I had the 1 time I caught him wolfing where its ... it's the sinking feeling that I'm gonna have to take him out back the shed

Like I could be wrong here

And I'm unsure I can put it into words rn

Day 2 I can get on my comp and sit there and force myself to articulate about specific posts or patterns but that wont happen by day 1 due to my time constraints

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:36 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:32 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:27 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:26 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:25 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:17 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:14 am

Not a good look from neon, switching LPP out and neon in
Why ask thread instead of just doing it
To be fair I did do it lol
Yeh but I wanted rondo to tell me why it was sr worthy
I too would like to no
Its simple your dismissal of my view of your scummy theatre with lucy plus moving your vote at an opportune time after the chaos shows that you can't be town core and cape voting for lpp moves him Up win win
Cape was already town and I wont call neon / Lucy theater

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:34 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:23 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:17 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:17 am Lucy also never self votes as town in this position she thunder domes me which is outing.
On one hand I've definitely watched her vote herself out for no reason other than being dramatic when she was town

But on the other hand it wasnt day 1 either
No I mean, the thread position she took if you look at it as a more strategy based game like chess is that I must be finding her town or I am wolf. If I am pushing her and not letting go ergo I must be wolf. if I am wolf and she is town she would not hesistate to thunderdome me. So she knows I am town and has let it leak by not thunderdoming me which is what Lucy SHOULD have done if she was town. The fact she will not shows she is wolf. (Coupled with a lot of other factors that I have also layed out)

Its less about what she has done and more about what she should have done for her position logically as town.
Rondo I think this is a very good post and i believe you believe it but i also unfortunately tr lucy instead

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:28 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:20 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:17 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:14 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:12 am What if I just did a stealth vote switch here
Not a good look from neon, switching LPP out and neon in
Why ask thread instead of just doing it
Not asking just phone posting while cuddling and watching a movie. So I'll change it tomorrow if I am still alive
Sorry I clearly did not phrase this well lol. I was asking you what wolfy intent neon would have to ask thread about the stealth vote switch because it is now objectively not stealthy

I TR porscha

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:13 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:05 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:32 am @DrWilgy
@pyxxy
@Porscha
@Seanzie
@Syn
@Le petit poussin

Do you have any opinions on the other people pinged in this post?
Porscha is fine. Syn was hard null when I read their ISO. I don't remember anything from Pyxxy or petit, so I'mma go ISO them, but Wilgy I don't dare venture a read on at this juncture.
Pyxxy looked rather potatoy for most of their ISO, but then they responded to one of your prompts and seemed to kind of activate after that, which I think is a good look.

Rask I ain't gonna cry if they're a wagon, but I'm not willing to push there right meow.

I did have those feelings about pyxxy and syn but i haven't read through everything they both have done yet

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:45 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:40 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:36 am You seem a lot more... focused... than you were in Cartomancy. Any reason for this?
cartomancy was my first real game after a hiatus of about a year and a half (the first one was mac's npc game but i was an npc)

when i left the syndicate i had a big emotional breakdown

so i came back 1 and 1/3 of a year later, shitposted a bunch in mac's game

then my first real game was cartomancy and i slowly got in the groove, slided back in, saw if the shoe still fits

and now im back stronger than ever baby
Ooooorrrr....

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:47 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 9:45 am cool, ill knock u down to null then until you get some pelts because some of your emotional posts seemed fake to me. i didnt voice it at the time because it would be inappropriate if they were real, but now that you have space and you've calmed down it seems like the appropriate time to voice this concern
Hmm... maybe not then. Nvm.

the only other things i got out of seanzie's tutuu """"scumread""""" (which tutuu was nullread, and defiantly not suspected as hard as Bereft) was this so im kinda lost on the people saying Seanzie was scumreading tutuu

But regardless, I think Seanzie's narrow focus on things makes him slightly leaning town to me

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 5:09 pm add Cape to the no lynch list.

for some reason, i thought syn said this

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:51 pm prolly not voting sheep, syn, porscha today.

what made u add syn here to the list?

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