The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:14 am

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:15 pm for example you have not reevaluated after the wagon that killed bereft that you were on

why were you on that wagon, he was your second highest townread????

killing me and me flipping town over syn who is clearly managing their own spew incase they flip is very poor play

you don't actually want to push cape/tutuu/wigly even when wigly was a wagon yesterday as well as neon, but you go bereft who was hesitantly townreading me???

Never caught this if true. Rondo, why did you join the Bereft wagon?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:22 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:02 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:36 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:25 pm i am somewhat struggling to see pyxxy's come back as towny... kinda the notes thing is towny?

Why do I, pyxxy, as a wolf, want to come back to this EOD? Who tagged me in the wolf chat to come back, and what did they want me to do?

Neutral question. Just want you to think through this.

not really sure why this question was asked

also the notes thing was referring to

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:27 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:09 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:52 pm I feel drawn to syn le petit and bereft

Drawn in what way?

lack of experience with them + lack of noting towny vibes during my reads

I'm experimenting with taking notes while playing mafia and tldr they're barely in my notes so far

feels like that might mean something. specifically mean something scummy. gtg soon tho

"i am somewhat struggling to see pyxxy's come back as towny"
I interpreted this as calling my return to the thread scummy. That's why I asked why you thought my return was scummy.

Did I interpret this wrong?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:04 pm search.php?author_id=1029&t=2482
read le petit's ISO and there's something about the lucy situation

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:17 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:00 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:13 am reading about who is to blame for the incoming ML makes me sad and annoyed. PLease stop and play.

i meant to comment on this post as i found it noteworthy for Le Petit just kinda coming in and announcing that lucy will be a ML

Read these pages again. It's literally lucy who was posting this. It's not a me read.

like, cape's not wrong here, and after this le petit goes off and does some medium strength sussing of wilgy, but then ends with

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:38 am

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:21 amgn

gn. Sad we couldn't realtime more. (week ends are sucky time for me to play smh)

Hopefully we can chat closer to EOD

when the two of them didn't even really talk at all? like le petit showed up, tried to talk about wilgy instead with tutuu

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:25 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 11:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:01 pm Lol this game is free

Cape T
Lucy T
Syn T
Pyxxy W
Neon W

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 9:02 pm [VOTE: Neon] aubergine

towny for wilgy?

how? (like they have history with Neon or something?)

that's the whole case from me, I'm not good at this, just felt something was off, didnt even read bereft or syn and I gtg soon

[VOTE: le petit] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:28 am Hi - apologies for being useless

Will participate this day phase. Bed time now.

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:50 am rondo and syn both voting for wigly boosts wiglys town equity by a lot for me

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:27 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:21 am Okay hold up is anyone town reading wilgy atm

i think he's town but i wouldn't bet on it

i'm gonna vote syn here cause wigly is solving and doing things without an agenda which is more towny than what syn's doing

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:27 pm it’s hard to solve when getting tunneled, no wonder mac gets so mad

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:12 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:11 am

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:50 am rondo and syn both voting for wigly boosts wiglys town equity by a lot for me

you thinking rondo is scum now?

i think no worlds exist where there isn't one in rondo/syn

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:23 pm i’ll take sheep/porcha/cape as my locktowns

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:01 pm there’s nothing to go off with his slot, i just can’t convince myself he’s scum but i will not die over him

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:04 pm like i’m forcing myself to scumread a pure null slot who i know to be wolfsiding

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:59 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:47 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:39 pm @DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:05 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:46 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:38 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:59 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:47 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:39 pm @DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

1.) Syn would be the significantly worse ML I think. Syn draws tension with Rondo and Tutuu with you out of the equation. You draw tension with Rondo, Neon, Seanzie, and Tutuu with syn out of the equation.

2.) true

3.) okie dokei [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

Ew!

I agree, but Lucy just asked me so nicely though.

Lmao... I'm stealth voting this

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:36 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:17 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:40 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:58 am but i still thinks correct to go between me/syn today

I impolitely disagree.

Me 2

I think if there's a wolf in Syn Lucy it's actually Lucy...I think Lucy could be playing me here but they've felt genuine all through today.

Fucking hell this game sucks where Porscha at y'all got wolf equity and I ain't got no place in this game right now to even start.

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:35 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:23 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:41 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 10:40 pm What's going on? I've not been paying attention, and I'll sheep the most reasonable gamestate explanation provided.




Cheers

Fixed.



Fuckin mobile

Rondo/Neon contains at least 3 wolves.

Rask is clear.

Pyxxy probably also clear.

Uh...

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:10 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:19 am if lucy is mafia i think her most likely partner is neon

i found more neon posts on page .... um.

page 31

that also seemed non w/w

so ill just take lucy as town

she can always be in wolf range but - what can u do. probabilities and all

Wait... what is this trying to say

If Lucy is mafia it's with me

But me and Lucy are never aligned

I... don't understand this

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 7:07 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:05 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:01 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:57 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:56 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:55 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:10 am if we miss d2 then tomorrow it's me/syn cross again and mafia have more influence on the vote

us getting sorted today is optimal, i need to see worlds where syn is scum cause then i can start reading the game

syn scum=rondo town in all worlds, same with me/cape

@Porscha @tutuu

You can already see worlds where syn is scum

You yanking my chain here?

i’m biased as fuck and i know i am and i’m annoyed at that

I just dont quite understand why you're saying some things at all
Like you're just saying shit to say it
"Ah chop syn so I can see worlds where he is wolf" already kinda weird but ok, then
*proceeds to see worlds he is wolf* cool so then why do we have to chop him for you start seeing anything

because i'm fucking stuck and i'm basically forced into this cross between me and syn and i'm kind of forced to scumread him. it's not a fucking organic read, it's contrived as shit. instead here i am basically forced into seeing a world where someone who has done NOTHING in this game except me is scum, it's hard to say that he is with confidence or anything else. ideally after a flip or two i would see if he's been townsiding or wolf siding after that but i don't have the luxury and i'm forced to prematurely evaluate him

Lucy town. I'm not voting there.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:06 pm I think pyxxy has been pretty towny these last couple of posts

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:44 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:43 am hopefully not a temporary sensation.

i'll give you a temporary sensation if you know what i mean

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:26 am is pyxxy towny?

a level 0 thought is that raskol died coz he voted pyxxy

shrug emoji

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:52 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:43 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:06 pm I think pyxxy has been pretty towny these last couple of posts

okay bet

Spoiler: show

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:57 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:58 pm2.PNG

for anyone analyzing this Rondo screenshot in the future, yes the counts are wrong, what I believe has happened is that lucy had just switched from Neon to me, given this post

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:58 pm joined in on the fun

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:52 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:59 pm Damn I trust players on the Bereft wagon more than pyxxy

Wilgy when you said this, do you happen to remember who you saw on the pyxxy wagon? There were either 2 or 3 people besides yourself depending on when you refreshed the page.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:48 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:58 pm joined in on the fun

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:05 pm why'd you kill bereft WHEN I SAID HE WAS TOWN AND I VOTED TO PROTECT HIM

hey @lucy, if you were voting to save Bereft, why did you switch off Neon onto me in the last few minutes?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:22 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:20 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:18 pm wilgy y u h8 me

I could never hate you Pyxxy. You are very fun to play with.

However I do think you are wolfing this game.

good sir I haven't randed scum yet on this site and I don't plan to start now

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:20 pm @DrWilgy if I flip town, do you plan to go after Neon D3? Do you think one of the top D1 wagons must be scum?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:19 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:17 pm Further he says the thread is boring and dips rather than actually trying to go into the mesh of it. I don't see how that's town sided.

this I do agree with, unfortunately that was after where I quoted from, seanzie still not showing town to me

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:14 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 pm

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

So you're woofin', right?

Provide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughts

"So you're woofin', right?"

Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.

Wilgy, this feels like a very odd response from you. You know how Seanzie works. You know he just replies like this sometimes.

You seeming to be exasperated by this feels off.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:13 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:15 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:10 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:06 pm We need to solve in you/Syn and we should have yesterday.

very reasonable

If its so reasonable why did you shit the bed yesterday going full ATE when I tried to push you over and resolve? More wolf evidence that Lucy is all over the place trying to justify herself

[VOTE: Rondo] aubergine

you feel like this rondo might be powerwolfing rondo? (sorry for back to back just posting all the quotes I picked)

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:12 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:31 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm Seanzie needs a second assessment as the wagon being on Bereft instead of Lucy I think was mostly their doing.

Yeah I wasn't sure about Seanzie on the wagon, and ofc pyxxy voted that wagon too but that was also a LATE vote

I think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.

thoughts on Wilgy's movement if you hold this world view?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:31 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:24 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm Seanzie needs a second assessment as the wagon being on Bereft instead of Lucy I think was mostly their doing.

Yeah I wasn't sure about Seanzie on the wagon, and ofc pyxxy voted that wagon too but that was also a LATE vote

I think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.

I'm talking about my exchange here with Wilgy, where he doesn't bring up that Neon was also tied until I bring it up.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:30 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:17 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:13 pm

Extract:

"Le petit poussin, 4
Voters: pyxxy, tutuu, Cape90, Bereft"

everyone else gone by -40min from EOD


and then le petit _is the NK_ and flips town

this feels odd and/or I'm self-centered

also don't know what to make of Wilgy essentially saving me

It was effectively panic.

I still think you were a fine yeet option, but LPP being on that wagon along with Rondo and Cape being on Bereft made me swap last second.

Was Neon also having 4 votes a part of your panic calculations?

Si. Neon wouldn't have been a good yeet yesterday. There's still time yet for them to town spew.

Okay you are correct which at least makes me feel better about not going there. hopefully not a temporary sensation.

I dont feel like he has been very towny. The towniest thing he did was shade wilgy, and wilgy has told pyxxy he thinks he is wolfing, but like nothing has really come from that. I kinda think they are w/w

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:53 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:53 am i am exactly 6'0''

le petite twink

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:13 am

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:10 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 6:09 am an idea

what if lucy and syn are both town, and their playstyles are moon and day, and they dislike each other, and that's influencing themselves to scumread each other, when in reality they just dislike each other's gameplay

(i could be wrong, just an idea)

i'm not the one you have to convince

im not sure if im right, and i dont feel confident in influencing this gamestate crossvote thing with my opinion

but just for argument's sake, if i were to feel confident - i would have to convince you, because you tried to convince porscha earlier, so you aren't a passive participant

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:54 am Rondo is voting Syn?

What the fuck lol

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:51 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:38 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 4:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 2:19 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:21 am rondo
cape
neon

bereft
sheep
falcon

wilgy
lucy
pyxxy
porscha
seanzie
syn
le petit

maybe i should stop touching it coz it seems to be getting worse and worse

Deep greens are correct,
Sheep shouldn't be bright green
The rest is accurate with maybe the exception of Porscha. Porscha should probably be higher up.

what do you make of me being at the end of the POE when they have basically no case? (and when asked about it, they said they were sheeping Cape (who didn't read my posts correctly afaict))

It doesn't really do anything... I'm at the top of yellow and asked why and the response was "too busy atm solving elsewhere"

Takes credo away from the yellows all in all. Makes them feel that they are there to be there.

The reason I interacted with this was mainly due to the dissonance in Bereft and Sheep being higher than other players.

u were at the top of the yellow due to post count. they werent ordered. i just wrote ur names while looking at the screenshot i took earlier of the post counts. le petit was also at the bottom of my yellows due to post count

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:15 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:54 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:35 am
Syn/Lucy likely t/t. Bad post.

kk, what's our gamestate if so and who am I wrong about being town?

Right now the gamestate looks like a sleepwalk into a bad Lucy vote. I'd prefer Neon or maybe Rondo, but could entertain other options.

You'll have to list your townreads if you want me to tell you you're wrong.

Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.

TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha

Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon

Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both

I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.

If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.

If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep

If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You

Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?

So you're woofin', right?

Provide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughts

"So you're woofin', right?"

Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.

I've found that I lose to wolf!Wilgy often because I find town!Wilgy is often obscure and hard to read, and then Wolf!Wilgy gives me clear thoughts, which I accidentally townread because it feels refreshing to understand your stances better than I usually do.

This is wolf!Wilgy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:20 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:15 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:13 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:59 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:47 pm

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

i’m sleep deprived as shit so i’ll ask a simple question and state one fact and ask you to vote syn

1) Which ML is significantly worse, mine or syn’s?

2) two of your townreads tr me, rondo sr’s and falcon doesn’t have a read

3) vote syn uwu

let’s assume you miss on me, 2 ML’s left and just dies d3 regardless of alignment then we’re probably at 1 ml until a loss. this is logic i’m considering because most of the thread thinks it’s v/v and i might actually buy that logic to some degree

but i feel if syn is a hit we just win

1.) Syn would be the significantly worse ML I think. Syn draws tension with Rondo and Tutuu with you out of the equation. You draw tension with Rondo, Neon, Seanzie, and Tutuu with syn out of the equation.

2.) true

3.) okie dokei [VOTE: Syn] aubergine

lmao i didn’t expect to convince you, anything else i would say i cannot accurately articulate at the moment

thank u for ur thoughts overall though

but why do u suspect sheep/pyxxy

I think Sheep's reactions to Rondo's case on You/Me/Tutuu was very VERY mid. Both in review and disapproval of it.

Felt like a wolf that didn't like it but didn't know what to do about it.

sheep is aopser

schweppes/bereft is too

in a recent game town schweppes found town sheep’s within 8 votes and called him town here

does him being town change any of your reads?

Define Aopser.

Schweppes and Bereft are both users under the same?

So you are implying that Bereft found Sheep towny and that we should trust that read?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:16 pm Pyxxy has felt off.

The two posts where I noticed this were:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:17 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:25 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 5:00 pm @lucy @DrWilgy @Sheep @Neon @Bereft @Cape90 @Le petit poussin @pyxxy @Syn @RondoDimBuckle @Seanzie @falcon45ca @Porscha

Could you try making reads on these 5 players?

lucy
wilgy
cape
neon
tutuu

lucy: I played against scum lucy in Holes mafia, lucy has no wim in that game tho, and I didn't get the impression that scum lucy is normally without wim. however, I'm liking these lucy vibes. tr

wilgy: I cannot read wilgy (atm?) and would rather abstain from commenting on wilgy. tbh I'm gonna unvote wilgy so that's clear since my wilgy vote was a joke anyway

cape: I think I've watched cape get D1'd as town twice now, which would be really funny if it weren't so sad. seems like the same cape that got pushed over those times. tr

neon: I hate the "I'm booooooooooooored" posts. I also hate when Sabi makes them. equally opportunity hating from me. but they're NAI _atm_ for Neon imo. otoh scum neon was with scum lucy in Holes mafia and I got to see that too...so, neon neutral, leaning town

tutuu: self-indulgent to include yourself in this question. neutral, but hard read you're the rolestopper in case I'm right and can claim town credit later

So effectively town, null, town, null slight town and null?

I'm not bashing it, but it is somewhat jarring to have a read list like this out of you so early Pyxxy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 3:19 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:44 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:33 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:13 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:09 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 04, 2023 6:05 pm

hm? when have I made an impression on you?

are u saying that u perceived my post as me townreading u?

no?

"but i really like pyxxy he's really fun and he likes me a lot too"

why do you really like me? what makes me the twinkle in your eye? I made like 5 posts or smth at that point, like am I forgetting secretplayerlist interactions or smth?

Also if we think that what I did was wolfy, I might extend an olive branch to these series of posts that seem to ramble on about tutuu calling pyxxy enjoyable to play with when pyxxy acts like tutuu is solely talking just about this game and tries to make a read off tutuu off this interaction when tutuu was talking in general.

It's not scummy but im just saying

....what??

I'm doing the exact opposite, I'm asking about tutuu's opinion of me since it seems to be founded on things outside this game!!!!!!

cape town wtf

Why did this elicit a tr?

And in addition, thinking of the RVS step votes. Pyxxy, Falcon, and Neon were all on me. If there's 1 in those three it's likely Pyxxy.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:56 pm Let's see what our AI overlords have to say:
Prompt:

Chat GPT, please show me the potential teams of three people hiding within this list of players along with likely hoods:
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Tutuu
Neon
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn
Lucy

Lucy is never on a team with Syn or Neon. Tutuu is never on a team with Syn or Seanzie. Neon is never on a team with Pyxxy or Sheep.

If one of the players on the hidden team is Neon, Syn has a greater chance of being on that team.

If one of the players on the hidden team is Lucy, Tutuu Seanzie and Sheep have a greater chance of being on that team.

If one of the players on the hidden team is Pyxxy, Sheep Lucy and Seanzie have a greater chance of being on that team.

Output:

Based on the given constraints and likelihoods, here are some potential teams of three players that could be hidden within the list:

Falcon, Cape, Rondo
Porscha, Tutuu, Seanzie
Lucy, Sheep, Seanzie
Pyxxy, Sheep, Lucy or Seanzie (depending on whether Pyxxy is included or not)
Neon, Syn, Sheep or Seanzie (depending on whether Neon is included or not)
It's important to note that these are just potential teams and there could be other combinations that meet the given constraints as well.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:47 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:39 pm @DrWilgy why are you voting me instead of syn?

why do you suspect me?

See above.

I suspect you both evenly I think. I don't see myself as wise enough to determine between you two. I do, however, think that Rondo is T and that swings the equity slightly against your favor... Only slightly though.

Voting you I think it optimal for untying the knot of logic I presented above.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:50 pm Like. I almost really feel that LPP or Pyxxy is correct wagon.

LPP advising Lucy to stop posting and step back for a second along with the seconding of Seanzies argument for T Lucy just isn't sitting right the more I think on it.

It's like you'd get good little town points for the take if Lucy is teammate or not. If Lucy is a teammate you defended them, if not you were at least "correct".

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:58 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:23 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 6:17 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:17 am Lucy also never self votes as town in this position she thunder domes me which is outing.

On one hand I've definitely watched her vote herself out for no reason other than being dramatic when she was town

But on the other hand it wasnt day 1 either

No I mean, the thread position she took if you look at it as a more strategy based game like chess is that I must be finding her town or I am wolf. If I am pushing her and not letting go ergo I must be wolf. if I am wolf and she is town she would not hesistate to thunderdome me. So she knows I am town and has let it leak by not thunderdoming me which is what Lucy SHOULD have done if she was town. The fact she will not shows she is wolf. (Coupled with a lot of other factors that I have also layed out)

Its less about what she has done and more about what she should have done for her position logically as town.

This is a stance I agree with.

I don't know if T Lucy comes to the immediate conclusion that Rondo must now be wolf and then doesn't go for the pelt if they genuinely believe in that.

I do think W Lucy loses motivation and vibe on a hard suspicion that they can't find a foothold to interact with.

This Rondo's case for T Lucy would be thunderdoming makes sense.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 3:29 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 3:13 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:56 pm Let's see what our AI overlords have to say:
Prompt:

Chat GPT, please show me the potential teams of three people hiding within this list of players along with likely hoods:
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Tutuu
Neon
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn
Lucy

Lucy is never on a team with Syn or Neon. Tutuu is never on a team with Syn or Seanzie. Neon is never on a team with Pyxxy or Sheep.

If one of the players on the hidden team is Neon, Syn has a greater chance of being on that team.

If one of the players on the hidden team is Lucy, Tutuu Seanzie and Sheep have a greater chance of being on that team.

If one of the players on the hidden team is Pyxxy, Sheep Lucy and Seanzie have a greater chance of being on that team.

Output:

Based on the given constraints and likelihoods, here are some potential teams of three players that could be hidden within the list:

Falcon, Cape, Rondo
Porscha, Tutuu, Seanzie
Lucy, Sheep, Seanzie
Pyxxy, Sheep, Lucy or Seanzie (depending on whether Pyxxy is included or not)
Neon, Syn, Sheep or Seanzie (depending on whether Neon is included or not)
It's important to note that these are just potential teams and there could be other combinations that meet the given constraints as well.

me falcon and rondo would be actually a sick wolf team

nice wifom