The Syndicate

He doesn't feel right, like i know last time i played with scotty basically pocketing him that i was looking through a scum lens, but he is just like posting a lot of weird things and has pointed out blendy beginnings for some reason as if that's totally Alignment indicative

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:59 am If I critically assess LoRab beyond a vibe town read:

I think her aversion to being town read stems from an older Syndicate era when essentially everyone hated being town read (due to old win conditions).

Perhaps LoRab’s confidence in her town reads of LC and especially of me can be questioned. To suggest my play to that point was “too detailed to be fake” is a bit much.

I think there’s probably a difference in approach since she seems to inference the olde ways, but actively is pushing back against people townreading her. It’s like she *knows* she isn’t doing anything towny, and can’t help but acknowledge it

this seems extremely ungenerous too as it was posted pretty early into the game

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:15 pm cape what are u doing

robyn I found a wolf, idk what to tell you, just read scotty carefully and tell me those are towny logs

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:21 pm Jay is such a high poster, and with not much filler, that I think inherently he tends to be town voice. Even if he’s not town lol

I think I’m slightly suspicious that I am his top town read, but that’s a me problem. I’m down to listen to his scum reads however

This also just... doesn't read correctly to me

I will explain in more detail later as i go to bowling very soon + I am pretty tired at the same time

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:54 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:47 am Lorab isn’t doing anything so far to make me townread her, and frankly is rather blendy in her entrance posts.

Though I don’t remember how LoRab operates. It’s been a while

meh I can say the same thing about SVS tho too

Like I’m not even sure she made a read when she was weirded out by me in her recent post.

Ima figure her out

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

OKay but it is seriously Scotty, he isn't comfy at all and I am starting to sus him way more then SVS

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:07 am LC is not quite on my town radar yet. Lean scum

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:16 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:38 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:11 am @S~V~S do you feel it is on-brand or not (or neither) for @Long Con to express early suspicion of you?

Onnnnnnnnnn-braaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnd...... on-brand. On-brand. Towny. Wolfy. On-brand. Sassy. Classy. On-brand. Interesting. On-brand. Bon-rand?

But this is an unhinged towny post

bad

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:47 am Lorab isn’t doing anything so far to make me townread her, and frankly is rather blendy in her entrance posts.

Though I don’t remember how LoRab operates. It’s been a while

blendy this blendy that

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:44 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:40 am Abigail’s entrance is thoroughly null.

To be fair, she herself has said she feels nothing

???

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:52 pm I’ve turned around on Cape- even tho he doesn’t have a lot of posts, what posts he has made are actual reads. Obviously I would like him to expand on them, but he’s making definitive reads

Thunal on the surface looks fine with their reads, if not making reads that come off as half baked. And no one wants a half baked pie, except maybe the stray cat that hangs out on my patio after dark. He’ll eat anything.
Scumlean

the only thing u said about me was that my entrance was the most blendy and that hardly counts as a read that warrants you declaring you turned around on me.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:05 pm Do you know anything about my play?

There had to be a reason why you liked SVS's return and this quick turnaround feels like you're caving in to pressure. I don't understand why you'd trust SVS's meta on me when SVS was your main suspect.

No

SVS's tone was less tonally performative, but I also realize that literally means nothing

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:51 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:17 pm LoRab seems to be on the same page as me which is good
Somewhat DM just for beginning
Somewhat robyn
SVS worries me a little bit for the thing i pointed out earlier + #202 tonally speaking
Thunal thanks for also having a sus on SVS ur townish now + asking clarifying questions there = good

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:44 pm Just want to point out that nobody has "done anything clearing"

Thought S~V~S's return was alright

[VOTE: Princess Abigail] aubergine

Deciding between you/Thunal tbh

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:46 pm i'm kinda regretting my life choices cuz idk if wolf vocally susses JJJ of all people here

[VOTE: Thunal33] aubergine

I don't believe there's a visible progression to explain this.

I have no idea what i am doing

[VOTE: S~V~S] aubergine

Like it's hard to explain, but thunal feels slightly off but I got really nothing and I liked their S~V~S sus and then i said oh i think i like SVS's return and then looking back i'm just like "wtf was i saying". I was also going off of what SVS said about Thunal maybe being more aggro then previous times

In terms of Princess Abigail her pushes in the thread felt like really weird, like in an anti mindmeldy way, but also thought them pushing you was like probably towny, and they aren't exactly playing atypically for Neon.

I feel like I am gonna be misvoted this game because I am gonna be lazy and no im not gonna change that, but yeah that's my thought process

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:48 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:46 pm i'm kinda regretting my life choices cuz idk if wolf vocally susses JJJ of all people here

[VOTE: Thunal33] aubergine

What happened here? Earlier you had me as good. Is there something in particular that pinged you?

it's more like I townread you/SVS the least out of any notable people who have talked and voting low/no posters would be kinda lame

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:58 pm If I opened your iso how many posts would I find that are just LAMIST posts talking about mafia theory or the mech of this game or telling people things like how to play in this specific game?

I feel like it's a lot. I feel like that's easy for mafia to hide behind.

i think it draws huge attention to him and makes it so that mafia see him as a threat which is what I like too call

self resolving

i'm kinda regretting my life choices cuz idk if wolf vocally susses JJJ of all people here

[VOTE: Thunal33] aubergine

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:55 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:53 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:36 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:21 pm Jay is such a high poster, and with not much filler, that I think inherently he tends to be town voice. Even if he’s not town lol

I think I’m slightly suspicious that I am his top town read, but that’s a me problem. I’m down to listen to his scum reads however

I'm very very suspicious of J3

Why?

Cause I'm good at this game and nothing you've done is clearing.

A great majority of your posts are just telling people information about the game which is easy for scum to hide behind and look towny in the eyes of people L0

Just want to point out that nobody has "done anything clearing"

Thought S~V~S's return was alright

[VOTE: Princess Abigail] aubergine

Deciding between you/Thunal tbh

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:42 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:59 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:24 am Scotty reads entirely civ to me. Even though he needs to stop padding his post count. That always makes me suspish of people, although I know that isn't a tell for you. But I'm reading you as civ other than that.

This is NAI activity and Scotty usually posts a lot

Hmm...I don't like this

Am I talking to the same Princess Abigail?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:44 pm [solid town reads]
Long Con
Bereft

[mostly town reads]
robyn
LoRab

[town leans]
DarlingMonroe
Cape90

[town in theory, but placed in purgatory until further notice]
Scotty

Others all null or unknown

What makes you confident on Bereft?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:31 pm Anyway, that Long Con post might have been the most town post in the game to this point.

Yeah I agree here

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:37 pm I've counted six players so far that have provided reads of some kind, including town reads (to varying degrees). The following players have been read as town by at least four others:

LoRab, JJJ, DarlingMonroe, and Scotty

How do we feel about that? I invite anyone to answer. Are these good names to have in a "town block" or no? Do you feel comfortable with that game state?

I feel alright about 3 of those but DM would need to post more to be in a confident range for me

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:29 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:42 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:18 am bereft
loreb
jjj
monroe
long con

scotty

null

thunal

I assume you actually do have a reason to read me bad then?

yeah, sorting alphabetically

m doesnt come before l

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:23 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:21 pm I just do not remember seeing town S~V~S having such theatrical language also but this is also the person who in the past game them easy townreads without much thought

In the highlighted bit, are you referring to yourself? As in, you have given S~V~S easy town reads in the past?

correct, so meta wise i would have to look back and see how well my current suspicion holds because it's one of those things that could just boil down to playstyle vs actually being sus

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:15 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:09 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:06 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:02 pm When was the last time you rolled mafia? Mind if I checked it out? I thought there was a game I was speccing where I pegged you as mafia by like day 3 but I don’t remember if that was confbias or you actually were mafia

Refer to the links in this post -- plenty of examples to work with. It's been both annoying and vindicating to be mafia so many times lately. I had one of my worst games ever in Philosophy 2 a couple years ago, but since then I have gone 5-0 as mafia (despite never being pleased to see the role card at first). Feels nice.

Wait- THATS RIGHT! I was just in a game with you in Don’t Starve, and would have absolutely gunned for you D2 if I didn’t get D1’d. I totally forgot about that game.

Ok ok I *can* read you.

You don't seem too confident here tho

i think this is ~rand town perhaps

I just do not remember seeing town S~V~S having such theatrical language also but this is also the person who in the past game them easy townreads without much thought

I also meant to say Princess Abigail worries me just because her only content is a townread on SVS and nothing else for right now

[VOTE: S~V~S] aubergine for now though as I find this more concretely bad

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:02 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:56 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:07 am Is it too early to ask everyone for their top three town reads?

No, of course not. Let’s go ahead an box in the mafia.

you/Scotty/Long Con

Thanks for the response. No pressure here, but if you wanted would you be able to name more than three town reads? I am compiling a bit of data, and if you have more that'd be super. If not, cool.

LoRab seems to be on the same page as me which is good
Somewhat DM just for beginning
Somewhat robyn
SVS worries me a little bit for the thing i pointed out earlier + #202 tonally speaking
Thunal thanks for also having a sus on SVS ur townish now + asking clarifying questions there = good

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:53 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:38 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:11 am @S~V~S do you feel it is on-brand or not (or neither) for @Long Con to express early suspicion of you?

Onnnnnnnnnn-braaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnd...... on-brand. On-brand. Towny. Wolfy. On-brand. Sassy. Classy. On-brand. Interesting. On-brand. Bon-rand?

@JaggedJimmyJay this is what I meant by "theatricality". I used to auto read this as bad~ weirdly enough, even in games where I was bad, and i had TMI re LC being town, I STILL read him as bad, which is why he's always an easy yeet for me when I'm bad. I kinda half believe it when I'm making the case.

I really don't read this as bad at all, it is just kinda there

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:25 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:24 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:22 am wait fuck i don't have cape, full disclosure i just read [read skimmed] like the first 20 posts out of the first 100, basically forgot he posted and lol, i had to go back and read monroe's posts when schweppes prompted me

Cape is worth sorting early. There's already a bit of a clash between tone (a bit stilted) and action (pro-town). I currently favor the latter.

i have a god read on cape, i refuse to read the first 100 posts out of some contrived reasoning that boils down to, not enough content especially when thunal's iso is almost entirely filler

what do i have to do with thunal?

LoRab wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:24 am Scotty reads entirely civ to me. Even though he needs to stop padding his post count. That always makes me suspish of people, although I know that isn't a tell for you. But I'm reading you as civ other than that.

This is NAI activity and Scotty usually posts a lot

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:24 am

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:22 am wait fuck i don't have cape, full disclosure i just read [read skimmed] like the first 20 posts out of the first 100, basically forgot he posted and lol, i had to go back and read monroe's posts when schweppes prompted me

Cape is worth sorting early. There's already a bit of a clash between tone (a bit stilted) and action (pro-town). I currently favor the latter.

i get that i come across stilted a lot fwiw

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:22 am wait fuck i don't have cape, full disclosure i just read [read skimmed] like the first 20 posts out of the first 100, basically forgot he posted and lol, i had to go back and read monroe's posts when schweppes prompted me

would you just have me in your townreads because I am me?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:07 am Is it too early to ask everyone for their top three town reads?

No, of course not. Let’s go ahead an box in the mafia.

you/Scotty/Long Con

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:48 am @Bereft i know whether you've been naughty or nice, and i hope you've been naughty

Bereft wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:51 am @Robyn How's the weather been?

i see what u did there Bereft

Bereft wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:42 am I'm too lazy to check, but does anyone have an actual take on J^3?

I like him for getting the ball rolling and gathering followable early town reads

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:20 pm S~V~S is bad. She's humouring in there like nobody's business. Setting the scene, agreeable. If I were cruder and didn't know S~V~S, she's also sucking up to Jay, possibly pocketing.

okay i said that previous thing without reading this and now the thought JJJ had makes sense

thinking Long Con is town for now

I like their Scotty read

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:05 am My tentative impression of Long Con is that he's less likely to poke the bear (S~V~S) right out of the gate, especially when prompted for any read at all, if he is mafia. Perhaps they could be teammates, but I have no reason to care about that theory.

So the net is a nice start for LC.

sounds like you are more of an chronic overthinker then me

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 1:00 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 12:35 am

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:10 pm @robyn @Bereft why are you voting me?

Also which one of you voted first?

why exactly do you seem concerned with an RVS vote here? Especially since JJJ literally called you out in a post and it seems he is assuming the role of town leader

I'm not concerned in the sense that I'm defensive about any sus on me, I think it'll disappear when I do more involved solving. I did want to know when/why people voted me to get readable info on them.

I don't see why you think me asking people about their votes means I'm concerned.

i honestly didn't notice it until it was pointed out by you I know robyn said they just voted there because Bereft was on it but I ain't too sure that you would get "readable info" off of wondering about an RVS vote, especially with robyn's NAI sheeping of Bereft, like that's just a dynamic thing they have

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 11:10 pm @robyn @Bereft why are you voting me?

Also which one of you voted first?

why exactly do you seem concerned with an RVS vote here? Especially since JJJ literally called you out in a post and it seems he is assuming the role of town leader

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:53 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:50 pm That's about that i have, as boring as it is

That's not boring at all. It's four entire reads. Thank you for your service.

What makes you lean that way on DarlingMonroe and I?

The productivity from your end and

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:58 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:45 pm

DarlingMonroe wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 6:41 pm Thank you, Jx3!

& for the bolded, just to the type/style of comments or gameplay, etc..

Happy to be of service. By all means, if you think that will help you, then do your thing. Would you say there was anything you picked up in your experience with the Severance game that you'll apply to this game?

Don't worry, this isn't a job interview. Necessarily.

Trust my instinct/gut more. I played a little too passively; perhaps it would have been more useful to town if I had contributed more, perhaps not.

Any advice from a master like you, JJJ?

This response DM made to you

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:46 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:44 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:17 pm so far, cape’s entrance is the most blendy.
‘Hi!’
Hello

Yeah I am kinda here with muted energy admittedly

Why do you think that is?

Think I need to break from mafia for a bit after this, so it's a me thing

I think you are town, Scotty has decent energy, DM had an alright start, kinda think robyn's start with talking about how they want to play diff this game is kinda towny just because every time I have done that sort of thing I have been town

That's about that i have, as boring as it is

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 8:17 pm so far, cape’s entrance is the most blendy.
‘Hi!’
Hello

Yeah I am kinda here with muted energy admittedly

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:14 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 7:02 pm Hello everyone!

How's it going, Cape? Is this our first game? I cannot recall for sure. I have spectated or hosted you, certainly.

This is our first game playing with one another. Have been in a few games u hosted

Understood JJJ

Hello everyone!