The Syndicate

Anyways

TR:

Guillotine
DrWilgy
robyn
Rem

maybe Zenon

SR:

Epignosis
tutuu

And in terms of pyxxy/Seanzie, I will just hold off but I think Seanzie's entrance and exit are more likely to be NAI for him then pyxxy's spread apart 2 posts

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:39 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:34 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:21 am i feel like i must take a more definitive stance on cape because part of me thinks he's caught and part of me thinks that this is typical town cape being d1ed. but he hasn't been obviously town to me thus far and he normally is. i'm leaning towards the former. however i'm like too fucking volatile in this stance and this is most likely due to it being 11h into d1

i'll give more reads tomorrow. everyone else just seems pretty towny to me

sounds like you flipped scum... maybe idk

I feel like I have been pretty clear

eloquence wise you've been clear, i haven't been able to god read you just yet

Something told me earlier on that you were not taking the game seriously, but that doesn't ring like your wolf game from what I recall.

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

I find you not playing more sus then Seanzie tbh

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:12 pm

Rem wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:09 pm I think Cape flips town

But i guess it's a fine cw i'm staying on tuttu

Nothing else to report

Oh no. I was wrong on Rem.

Again, it wouldn't be a syndicate game without a syndicate OG sussing me

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:25 am I decidedim dropping the townread on guillo i decided its premature

Nah, I dont think they have Epi AND me in their towncore and they are simply reminding me of town!Guillo off meta + what i said earlier

They are my strongest TR easily

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:17 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:22 am Okay, y'all need to chill out. Wtf is this 8 pages BS?

*checks player list* *Sees Zenon* *Sees Tutuu* *Sees Robyn*

Oh...

*checks again* *Sees Falcon* *Sees Wilgy*

Okay should balance a little?

*checks post counts* *Wilgy highposting*

Uhh... damn.

<rand town post from sean

robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:21 am i feel like i must take a more definitive stance on cape because part of me thinks he's caught and part of me thinks that this is typical town cape being d1ed. but he hasn't been obviously town to me thus far and he normally is. i'm leaning towards the former. however i'm like too fucking volatile in this stance and this is most likely due to it being 11h into d1

i'll give more reads tomorrow. everyone else just seems pretty towny to me

sounds like you flipped scum... maybe idk

I feel like I have been pretty clear

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:30 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:29 am just this sequence bothers me just because tutuu is aware i get misread a lot and has talked all over the thread about this

And yet they sheep Epi because they TR Epi I guess

yes

i think voting people is good; there's no hammer

sitting idle with my vote won't make the wolves jump out of their holes

fair enough

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:27 am

Rem wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:19 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:13 am

Rem wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:08 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:03 am

Rem wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:02 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:56 am I suppose I should also play the game for real

Robyn
Rem
Wilgy

Lock town

Oh yeah the game

Ha ha ha hahaha

Town
Zenon
wilgy bulgy
Cape

Sus
Epi
Tutturuuu

Rest idk

Wanna mason?

I need to see more from Robyn tho sod is just regular Robyn for me

We agree on everything except I have cape and epi flipped why you town read Cape over epi?

Cape made me laugh and epi didn't

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On a more serious note i think Cape sounds genuine while epi sounds more calculated? Like there's something in how epi writes that reminds me of how i forge reads as scum

Thank you <3 this makes sense to me I think I felt like Epi jumping around how he did wouldn't be a wolf play but maybe I'm wrong he was throwing sus around in a way that might have been looking for something that stuck

I wouldn't exactly call his way of scumreading me that

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:26 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:24 pm You are almost certainly mafia.

i dont have a read on cape yet and i struggle reading him a lot. i'm going to sheep you at the moment

[VOTE: Cape] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:56 pm ok fine epi towncore

although personally i wouldnt scumread cape for hedging, i find his tone naturally wolfy, he gets himself mischopped A TON

but i will say that him coming up with these elaborate explanations for his reads could be suspicious. i think most players who play loose early on and make a ton of reads - theyre just freeballing (see what wilgy did), and generally dont explain much, coming from town. explanations doesnt necessarily make one scum, but it does feel odd to me

just this sequence bothers me just because tutuu is aware i get misread a lot and has talked all over the thread about this

And yet they sheep Epi because they TR Epi I guess

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:15 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:13 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:01 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:00 am Epi be like: wow cape isn't playing the game, i will pressure him into playing the game

Me: plays the game

Epi: Oh Cape is just appeasing me. And he is also hedgy... in a mafia game :wowee:. And he makes bad reads while on phone while bowling.

If you just take a second to think about how unfair Epi is being, he is legit just mafia

Ok.

Do you scum read tutuu too?

Not as much as Epignosis, but I don't get good vibes from
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196 + 224
249

Epi saying nothing of tutuu also using hedgy language in their posts also makes me get those w/w vibes.

I dont think two wolves associate each other in the first two pages of the game like that, it is suicide.

Well, if I was wolf here I would try to pay less attention to my wolf partner day 1 then other townies I can push right?

I would say it's w/w in an indirect way where Epi is paying more attention to me and less attention to tutuu

But this is more hypothetical.

Where I read what Epi is doing as just flat out powerwolfy and uncomfortably aggressive without a want to really solve, I read what tutuu is doing as a sort of stream of consciousness that is more likely to come from town IMO. But they have scummy moments, and I am less sure if it is just because of playstyle then not.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:01 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:00 am Epi be like: wow cape isn't playing the game, i will pressure him into playing the game

Me: plays the game

Epi: Oh Cape is just appeasing me. And he is also hedgy... in a mafia game :wowee:. And he makes bad reads while on phone while bowling.

If you just take a second to think about how unfair Epi is being, he is legit just mafia

Ok.

Do you scum read tutuu too?

Not as much as Epignosis, but I don't get good vibes from
135
196 + 224
249

Epi saying nothing of tutuu also using hedgy language in their posts also makes me get those w/w vibes.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:55 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:56 pm At the very least I know Epi is just red here

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Nice powerwolfing

Explain this please

You'll see as you read on

Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:54 am Epignosis. I had a similar impression that Cape90 on regards with Tutuu, am I hedging too?

you know that i initially put it in a hedgy way and you did not right?

it isn't a syndicare game without a syndicate OG sussing me

I like all of these from Guillo.

1. I can see how the first thing is scummy

2 + 3 is literally just a mindmeld

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:20 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:05 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:00 pm Cape has five posts. Bowling isn't labor intensive. If you're able to come in here and talk about bowling, you're able to come in here and say a thing or two about a player. We know you just threw a gutter. Who is bad?

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine

at the very least i'll note this post as unlikely w/w. i dont think many wolf players pounce on their only ally with this strong tone in this 9v2 mountainous scenario

This was honestly the post that rubbed me the most the wrong way

Guillo put it best into words what bothered me about the read. Even though I know already that I am not w/w with Epi, still.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:35 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:33 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:56 pm ok fine epi towncore

although personally i wouldnt scumread cape for hedging, i find his tone naturally wolfy, he gets himself mischopped A TON

but i will say that him coming up with these elaborate explanations for his reads could be suspicious. i think most players who play loose early on and make a ton of reads - theyre just freeballing (see what wilgy did), and generally dont explain much, coming from town. explanations doesnt necessarily make one scum, but it does feel odd to me

"elaborate"

they were really shallow

considering it was page .. 2? or something, to me it was very elaborate relative to the amount of info you were working with

Fair enough. I was slightly bored and doing worse so

But I do stuff like this often, probably comes from my early chat mafia background where I have to quickly develop reads

Rem wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:33 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:32 am I am entertained by DrWilgy so a TR there because wolves arent funny

But you are not funny

Damn

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:56 pm ok fine epi towncore

although personally i wouldnt scumread cape for hedging, i find his tone naturally wolfy, he gets himself mischopped A TON

but i will say that him coming up with these elaborate explanations for his reads could be suspicious. i think most players who play loose early on and make a ton of reads - theyre just freeballing (see what wilgy did), and generally dont explain much, coming from town. explanations doesnt necessarily make one scum, but it does feel odd to me

"elaborate"

they were really shallow

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:23 pm im very happy with the activity so far, i think this is more than we usually get. i appreciate all of you for lending the time

This is a post I am going to townread on principal

I am entertained by DrWilgy so a TR there because wolves arent funny

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:06 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:01 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:00 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:58 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:57 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:56 pm ok fine epi towncore

although personally i wouldnt scumread cape for hedging, i find his tone naturally wolfy, he gets himself mischopped A TON

but i will say that him coming up with these elaborate explanations for his reads could be suspicious. i think most players who play loose early on and make a ton of reads - theyre just freeballing (see what wilgy did), and generally dont explain much, coming from town. explanations doesnt necessarily make one scum, but it does feel odd to me

I just thought that a wolf is .0000000000002% more likely to immediately copy another player.

sorry i dont immediately understand who you are referring to. i think cape - but cape copying whom?

Cape copied Pyxxy.

and everyone else copied after that.

I dont see the issue here

You did it first and established the pattern. Pattern establishment comes from a wolf .00008% of the time.

i see

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:51 pm Let me work through this to be more specific so everyone can see what I'm seeing:

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:19 pm Eh I didn't wanna get srs until I get back but alright

Robyn - I liked their "having too many posts" post. Certain early posts from what I recall also seemed fine.

Tutuu - I liked their hypothetical thing post on robyn. I slightly dislike the "this is not w/w" reads they are making.

Epignosis - I could see the aggressiveness as a double edged sword, especially with the Robyn thing.

Rem - tonally okay but that's where my opinions end.

Zenon - Probably my strongest wolf inclination right now and that's not saying much because like... Meh?

Rest of ppl haven't talked enough for an impression to be made

There's an immediate need to appease here. If I'm bowling, I'm not checking my phone for mafia, and if I am, I'm telling you, "I'm bowling. Piss off." Bowling is serious business.

But let's say I'm wrong and Cape is cool about playing mafia while bowling. There's enough time between frames, sure.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:19 pmEh I didn't wanna get srs until I get back but alright

So let's get serious.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:19 pmRobyn - I liked their "having too many posts" post. Certain early posts from what I recall also seemed fine.

I saw the "having too many posts" post and don't understand what is likable about it. The second sentence is riddled with weasel words and phrases. "Certain?" (WHICH? If they are certain, you can name them. You didn't.) "from what I recall" (this gives you an avenue of "misremembering" later) "seemed fine" ("seemed" is another weasel word. Is it fine or isn't it?)

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:19 pmTutuu - I liked their hypothetical thing post on robyn. I slightly dislike the "this is not w/w" reads they are making.

Hedging. An adverb accompanies the hedging. Again, no explanation accompanies the slightly disliking.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:19 pmEpignosis - I could see the aggressiveness as a double edged sword, especially with the Robyn thing.

You "could see." Weasel phrase. You either see or you don't. You're not taking a stance on me.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:19 pmRem - tonally okay but that's where my opinions end.

Hedging.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:19 pmZenon - Probably my strongest wolf inclination right now and that's not saying much because like... Meh?

So close. You had an opinion here and then you gave ellipses with nothing after.

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:19 pmRest of ppl haven't talked enough for an impression to be made

To reiterate:

You are almost certainly mafia.

Alright so

1. Did you only vote me to see if I would respond to it while I was bowling?

if I'm bowling, I'm not checking my phone for mafia, and if I am, I'm telling you, "I'm bowling. Piss off." Bowling is serious business."

That's the only way this tracks, but my mind just tells me if I didn't respond, you would still be pushing me off that based on

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:00 pm Cape has five posts. Bowling isn't labor intensive. If you're able to come in here and talk about bowling, you're able to come in here and say a thing or two about a player. We know you just threw a gutter. Who is bad?

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine

this post, which contradicts the mentality that you have seem to be presenting here. Especially since I was already talking up to that point.
Darned if I do, darned if I don't do. Just the way mafia would like it

2. The having too many posts goodbye thing felt towny to me just because of how it rings as robyn being unconcerned with thread status.
The certain posts were all the conversation with Rem that robyn was having. Primarily 26

3. You can see the post I made after this post specifically citing what bothered me on the SR thing.

4. I speak very indirectly in general, it's a me thing. If I am not consciously thinking about it, I do so just automatically, doesn't help that I speak like this too with the whole California Valley way of speaking going on .

5. Rem had spoken a lot at the start but I didn't have an impression on Rem's posts. I will update that however as I do see something now

Rem wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:12 pm Me and Robyn in the same mafia team would be poggers

This is not that timeline

This and the back and forths both Robyn and Rem had probably make them not paired with each other. This is a slight peevy read for me though in mountainous so i take it with a grain of salt.

6. Like I was slightly iffy on Zenon continually posting about wanting to know if there was a postcap, but I was 85% sure that it was a Zenon thing. Rest left no impression on me at that particular point.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:51 pm Why you no read me Wilgy

I think this is towny though for just being a general towntell.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:03 am

Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:00 am If you just take a second to think about how unfair Epi is being, he is legit just mafia

what made you discount the possibility of epi being a wrong villager?

It depends, but his playstyle when he was pushing me just felt like a lot of wolftelling to me

But others following suit means there is a chance he is just town here because of the threadpull

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:28 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:19 pm Eh I didn't wanna get srs until I get back but alright

Robyn - I liked their "having too many posts" post. Certain early posts from what I recall also seemed fine.

Tutuu - I liked their hypothetical thing post on robyn. I slightly dislike the "this is not w/w" reads they are making.

Epignosis - I could see the aggressiveness as a double edged sword, especially with the Robyn thing.

Rem - tonally okay but that's where my opinions end.

Zenon - Probably my strongest wolf inclination right now and that's not saying much because like... Meh?

Rest of ppl haven't talked enough for an impression to be made

Have you ever town read me xD

I mean, why do you think I barely made a proper read on you there? Especially early game it's hard to townread you

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:00 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:58 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:57 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:56 pm ok fine epi towncore

although personally i wouldnt scumread cape for hedging, i find his tone naturally wolfy, he gets himself mischopped A TON

but i will say that him coming up with these elaborate explanations for his reads could be suspicious. i think most players who play loose early on and make a ton of reads - theyre just freeballing (see what wilgy did), and generally dont explain much, coming from town. explanations doesnt necessarily make one scum, but it does feel odd to me

I just thought that a wolf is .0000000000002% more likely to immediately copy another player.

sorry i dont immediately understand who you are referring to. i think cape - but cape copying whom?

Cape copied Pyxxy.

and everyone else copied after that.

I dont see the issue here

Epi be like: wow cape isn't playing the game, i will pressure him into playing the game

Me: plays the game

Epi: Oh Cape is just appeasing me. And he is also hedgy... in a mafia game :wowee:. And he makes bad reads while on phone while bowling.

If you just take a second to think about how unfair Epi is being, he is legit just mafia

At the very least I know Epi is just red here

[VOTE: Epignosis] aubergine

Nice powerwolfing

im just here attracting all the mafia and im here for it

its mountainous baby

lmao

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:05 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 11:00 pm Cape has five posts. Bowling isn't labor intensive. If you're able to come in here and talk about bowling, you're able to come in here and say a thing or two about a player. We know you just threw a gutter. Who is bad?

[VOTE: Cape90] aubergine

at the very least i'll note this post as unlikely w/w. i dont think many wolf players pounce on their only ally with this strong tone in this 9v2 mountainous scenario

This was honestly the post that rubbed me the most the wrong way

Eh I didn't wanna get srs until I get back but alright

Robyn - I liked their "having too many posts" post. Certain early posts from what I recall also seemed fine.

Tutuu - I liked their hypothetical thing post on robyn. I slightly dislike the "this is not w/w" reads they are making.

Epignosis - I could see the aggressiveness as a double edged sword, especially with the Robyn thing.

Rem - tonally okay but that's where my opinions end.

Zenon - Probably my strongest wolf inclination right now and that's not saying much because like... Meh?

Rest of ppl haven't talked enough for an impression to be made

I don't think there is a post cap
There is none specified

Why did I immediately understand what Epi meant without the clarification LMAO

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:38 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:36 pm Hi I'm bowling.

Are you straight or a hooker?

I hook but I do both sometimes.

2-hander

Hi I'm bowling.

I think robyn and maybe tutuu are town

Vibes

Name: cape
Age: early 20s
Gender: Male
Location: Over there
Hobbies: Mafia/Bowling/Video Games
Looking for: A gamer girl
Dealbreakers: Not a gamer girl

Stolen format but whatever
Sup