The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:07 pm Everyone has received a special broadcast!

SDN Crossover Mini WWereWWalrus

Theme: Creatures!

Results!

In last place, we have:

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Initial listen: Ah Powerwolf. Of course. All about the Crusades, not very creature-y content-wise.
Second listen: Not a lot of creature content. Power metal isn't really my thing but at least it doesn't have death metal scream vocals.

Creature-ness: 1/5
Personal taste: 2/5
Total: 3/10
Submitted by:

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tutuu

6th place:

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Initial listen: Oh dear. Not a big Imagine Dragons fan. That hook is undeniable though, it was a massive hit for a reason.
Second listen: This is the one that will be stuck in my head whether I want it to be or not. Not sure whether I should score it higher or lower for that.

Creature-ness: 1/52
Personal taste: 2.5/5
Total: 3.5/10
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mightyrunner

5th place:

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Initial listen: "Beastie" Boys, I get it. An anti-catcalling anti-male-gaze jam, love it.
Second listen: Kinda odd as a Beastie Boys song, but it's nice that they matured over the years. Nice chill vibes.

Creature-ness: 1/5
Personal taste: 4/5
Total: 5/10
Submitted by:

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genny

4th place:

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Initial listen: Accurately named. Seems like great guinea pig music.
Second listen: Very cute song but not one I'd listen to much.

Creature-ness: 3/5
Personal taste: 2/5
Total: 5/10
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Dennis

AND THE PODIUM

3rd place:

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Initial listen: All about being a sheep, nice. Not a huge Floyd fan, but this song's got some nice drive. Sheep noises! Bird noises!
Second listen: It's 10 minutes long, not listening to this twice. Less meandering than other Floyd songs, so bonus points there.

Creature-ness: 3/5
Personal taste: 3/5
Total: 6/10
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SVS

2nd place:

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Initial listen: Some pleasant Irish folk. All about creatures, very on theme. Oh no, the flood! Noah, you goon!
Second listen: Definitely the most creature-filled of the songs. Sad about the unicorn

Creature-ness: 5/5
Personal taste: 3/5
Total: 8/10
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SAR

AND OUR WINNER

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Initial listen: Hell yeah. All about being a werewolf.
Second listen: I've listened to this song many many times, it's very much my shit.

Creature-ness: 4/5
Personal taste: 5/5
Total: 9/10
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Sloonei

WWereWWalrus Addendum!

In a new tie for, uh, last place, with 3 points!
MC Dubz - Astronaut in the Ocean (Masked Wolf cover)
Submitted by supershorty

Notes: The creature-ness is underwhelming, it's a "Masked Wolf" cover so sure it can get a point for that. Not really my style of cover, but Dubz' flow is alright. Give it a bonus point for swag.

Creature-ness: 1/5
Personal taste: 2/5
Total: 3/10

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And sliding in as a new 4th and 5th, just missing the podium. In 5th we have:
Guided by Voices - Buzzards and Dreadful Crows
Submitted by JaggedJimmyJay

Initial listen: Definitely GBV.
Second listen: Still GBV. I like them, but this isn't one of their songs that really sticks out to me.

Creature-ness: 2/5
Personal taste: 3/5
Total: 5/10

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And the new 4th place:
Iggy Pop - Horse Song

Initial listen: Nice cowbell. Iggy is the horse in the song. Not a ton of creature content beyond that.
Second listen: Fun to hear songs where he gets to be a little silly.

Creature-ness: 2/5
Personal taste: 3.5/5
Total: 5.5/10

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:47 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:47 pm Oh also, a few mods/hosts sent songs for the walrus but I couldn't include them because it would have implicitly confirmed my role claim. So I'll reveal those when I'm back at my computer.

That would make it more fun imo

I would have taken submissions from the dead too

Oh also, a few mods/hosts sent songs for the walrus but I couldn't include them because it would have implicitly confirmed my role claim. So I'll reveal those when I'm back at my computer.

gg everyone, that was fun!

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 10:40 pm (I was town btw)

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:53 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:52 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:51 pm Sure I lied, but it was not a joke

Why did you lie?

Cause I'm not even a tracker

BUT, I do still have mech that proves tutuu healed mac n2

What did you actually get n1?

Wait nm, Neon said she roleblocked you n1.

@mightyrunner7 did you get acted on n1?

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:38 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:35 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:29 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:27 pm @Dennis you around?

Hardly paying attention but I'm here

Why didn't you watch Mac last night?

No more shots

Were you 1-shot, or did you use others?

Dennis wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:29 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:27 pm @Dennis you around?

Hardly paying attention but I'm here

Why didn't you watch Mac last night?

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:29 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:26 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:21 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:21 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:15 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:13 pm SAR, you knew genny was telling the truth that she visited PSV the night she died?

Yes. Which is why I bamboozled myself into WIFOM that she wasn't a wolf

Because you thought PSV was the wolf kill?

Yep.

Did you know what genny did, or not until she claimed/flipped?

I did not know exactly what she did until the flip but I knew some things she did not do

Ok, so you didn't know it was genny then either until she claimed, but it lined up when she did.

@Dennis you around?

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:21 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:21 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:15 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:13 pm SAR, you knew genny was telling the truth that she visited PSV the night she died?

Yes. Which is why I bamboozled myself into WIFOM that she wasn't a wolf

Because you thought PSV was the wolf kill?

Yep.

Did you know what genny did, or not until she claimed/flipped?

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:15 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:13 pm SAR, you knew genny was telling the truth that she visited PSV the night she died?

Yes. Which is why I bamboozled myself into WIFOM that she wasn't a wolf

Because you thought PSV was the wolf kill?

SAR, you knew genny was telling the truth that she visited PSV the night she died?

For some reason I was thinking EOD was in 10 minutes, but it's not. Cool.

Day Votes
Waterfall


EOD Wagons

Tried to put together everything we know about mech, let me know if I missed anything that someone has claimed.

-- Dead Wolves --

Creature (died d2)
* 2-shot jailkeeper
* 1-shot SDN post restriction (used on mighty)

falcon (died n2)
* Vanilla
* 1-shot SDN doctor

dya/Lawpy (died d3)
* 1-shot n1/n2 poisoner (likely poisoned Zenge)
* 1-shot SDN roleblock immunity

genny (died d4)
* 3-shot even night role cop
* 1-shot factional Syndicate janitor (used on Marmot, intentionally or not)

-- ?? --
Marmot (died n2)
* ???

-- Dead Town --

Scotty (died d1)
* Vanilla
* Grants extra role shot (unused)

AM (died n1)
* 1-shot N3+ voyeur (unused)
* Grants extra post cap

pyxxy (died n1)
* 3-shot vote distributor (dya/Lawpy claimed the extra vote n1)

Sporty (died n1)
* 3-shot voyeur

Zenge (died d2)
* Even-night motion detector (unused)

PSV (died n2)
* 2-shot odd-night vigilante (killed one of AM/pyxxy/Sporty n1)

Wilgy/tutuu (died n3)
* 2-shot doctor (likely Mac n2, Mayo n3)

Kate/Mac
* Vanilla

-- Live Claims --

miranda
* 2-shot watcher (Creature n1)

Neon
* 2-shot roleblocker (Dennis n1, Marmot n2)

Dennis
* Saw tutuu visit Mac on n2

Sloonei
* 2-shot Inventor (falcon n2, genny n3)

SAR
* Knew genny used her role on PSV n2

Nate
* Broadcaster

And do you have a community role?

miranda920 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 8:24 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 8:15 pm

miranda920 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 8:07 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 7:58 pm I prefer miranda over SAR but it looks like things are going that way anyway.

@miranda920 if you have anything to claim, the sooner the better.

Eh my role was a watcher, but I didn’t gain any information from that

Still helpful to know who you targeted in case we have other claims to check against.

I watched Creature the first night, because of the out of nowhere vote on me, but no one targeted them.

I still have one other shot that I have not used

Would’ve been more informative if it showed me who my target targeted

It's 2-shot?

miranda920 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 8:07 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 7:58 pm I prefer miranda over SAR but it looks like things are going that way anyway.

@miranda920 if you have anything to claim, the sooner the better.

Eh my role was a watcher, but I didn’t gain any information from that

Still helpful to know who you targeted in case we have other claims to check against.

Feel like we're also at the point of the game where it'd be easy to lose track of mech info that could be important, so I'm going to use some of the time we have left to collect everything we know so far.

I prefer miranda over SAR but it looks like things are going that way anyway.

@miranda920 if you have anything to claim, the sooner the better.

mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 10:05 pm I just read through SAR's ISO and putting a vote there is understandable

Town points - early vote for falcon, vote for Lawpy, general casual tone (feels odd for a wolf who has been rapidly losing packmates)
Scum points - defense of genny, lack of overall solving attempts, introduced the 3rd faction theory (which seems less and less likely as we uncover more werecreatures)

I'm not going to rule her out, but I want to investigate more optipns before going there

So SAR is POE. What's your take on miranda?

Looks like just a couple pages since last night, so I'll get caught up.

Anything spicy happen today?

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:26 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:25 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:16 pm Oh yeah so Marmot

I think like had to be the other faction or 3p. Genny was rolecop/seer, AND janitor. Which also means marmot was the mafia nk whatever night it was

Why janitor a town nk that would make both me and SVS bad?

Mayo redirected Lawpy to Marmot, so if Lawpy was carrying out the kill they may have been intending to kill/janitor someone else. That isn't to say that Marmot wasn't 3p, they definitely could be, but the kill/janitor of them may have been an accident so I'm not sure we can read into it.

So I've been told

What would Marmot being 3p do for your worldview?

Too slow.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:16 pm Oh yeah so Marmot

I think like had to be the other faction or 3p. Genny was rolecop/seer, AND janitor. Which also means marmot was the mafia nk whatever night it was

Why janitor a town nk that would make both me and SVS bad?

Mayo redirected Lawpy to Marmot, so if Lawpy was carrying out the kill they may have been intending to kill/janitor someone else. That isn't to say that Marmot wasn't 3p, they definitely could be, but the kill/janitor of them may have been an accident so I'm not sure we can read into it.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:02 pm Thats a weird kill. And only one?

Hum

Not sure a Mac NK should be surprising. But, they may have been hoping someone picks up his case against you and runs with it.

Since she hasn't appeared I'm good with [VOTE: genny] aubergine

Kinda boring, but our boring yeets so far have been correct, so.

supershorty wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:47 pm Also I'm offended that Dubz is leading in the poll and I didn't manage to lead when I was on the board.

Dubz is offended that she's leading, but presumably not because she's jealous.

You should have been wolfier I guess.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:14 am Maybe I shouldn't have answered that

Well, I don't think it matters that much honestly. It's pretty easy to read between the lines of what you'd said so far and the possible roles in the role list.

The real point of my question was (and correct me if any of this is wrong):
- Yesterday you had Mac as a TR
- Mac thought he was poisoned
- You knew tutuu did something to Mac

But I didn't get the vibe yesterday that you were suspicious of tutuu, and I'm wondering why.

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:21 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:19 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:35 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:02 pm @Dennis - did you know yesterday that tutuu visited Mac?

I know tutuu healed mac n2. That's all I'm saying

Yeah I'm just wondering which pieces of that you knew yesterday.

OH

Yes I did

Oh. All of it, or was tutuu being a doctor a missing piece?

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:35 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:02 pm @Dennis - did you know yesterday that tutuu visited Mac?

I know tutuu healed mac n2. That's all I'm saying

Yeah I'm just wondering which pieces of that you knew yesterday.

it somehow didn't occur to me until now that Wilgy was actually a doctor.

@Dennis - did you know yesterday that tutuu visited Mac?

mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 11:15 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:58 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:55 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:54 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:31 pm i kind of think sloon is being lightly v

Why do your reads have so many adjectives?

they always do and you always take issue with it

it's how i express myself

I could be wrong, but I don't think I've taken issue with this specific thing in the past. What game?

Is this the exchange people are using to saying that Seanzie and dyanchei/Lawpy were incompatible? This seems fairly benign and could be easily faked, especially in the context of threadsrste (giant Zenge/falcon showdown).

I agree it would be a little odd for wolf's to do this, but I still like Seanzie is top of POE.

Literally rhe only contributions have been sus against AM and sus against Zenge

Mac, did you see this? Is this the Seanzie/dya interaction you had in mind when unpairing them, or was there something else?

Updated spreadsheets for anyone that likes that sort of thing. Changed the d1 votes based on when mayo thought his vote for Creature was, which puts the start of the Creature wagon much earlier in the phase than I thought.

Day 1 Votes


Day 2 Votes


Day 3 Votes


Waterfall


EOD Wagons

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:57 pm

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:55 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:51 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:50 pm @Dennis are you saying that the mod feedback I got was just telling me I was protected not poisoned?

Yes

Explain more pls.

Not role fishing. Trying to clear someone.

I know for a fact tutuu protected mac n2

So even if he did get poisoned, it wouldn't have gone through

"Heard a noise" makes me think it actually blocked something.

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:51 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:50 pm Oh yeah someone said "idk if this ego is town mac meta"

It's not out of the ordinary

Meaning it is or it isn't?

I don't know them. I kindof want to climb a mountain with them, but I dont' want them to push me off the top.

I've played with Ego Mac and he was town FWIW

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:50 pm @Dennis are you saying that the mod feedback I got was just telling me I was protected not poisoned?

You said you felt safe and warm, something like that?

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:09 pm Also the song I submitted for the walrus was cause I thought it would be hilarious I didn't expect to get 4th

It did well on creature points.

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:07 pm

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:05 pm Feel better about Sloonei with the Lawpy flip, Lawpy seemed like he was trying to chain a falcon elim into Sloonei and then stretched the logic to apply it to mayo when it didn't go anywhere. He actually voted for Sloonei, unlike falcon.

Easy read.

Who is your POE?

Do you have updated spreadsheets?

To be more accurate, I don't think Sloonei is a werecreature, but we still haven't flipped anyone from another faction (unless Marmot was one). That's a problem we can worry about when we run out of werecreatures tho.

With two wolves now flipped on the Scotty wagon, I'm more likely to think that the Creature wagon was pure other than falcon (he was under some voting pressure himself so distancing makes sense). That's a good look for SVS and Kate/Mac. And I wouldn't be surprised to find a 3rd wolf on Scotty, which would be Neon or Mighty (setting aside Sloonei). Or a wolf on the Sporty wagon, which would be Seanzie or miranda. So that's the POE I'd start with. i still think Creature's early vote for miranda looks good for her, though it's not clearing. So I hope she does towny things today.

And I can post spreadsheets in a bit, I haven't updated it yet.

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 10:02 pm @MacDougall

Why are you alive?

Did your vampire cancer get healed?

What he said about his flavor sounded more like a protective, curious if it lines up with what you got.

Feel better about Sloonei with the Lawpy flip, Lawpy seemed like he was trying to chain a falcon elim into Sloonei and then stretched the logic to apply it to mayo when it didn't go anywhere. He actually voted for Sloonei, unlike falcon.

gg Wilgy/tutuu o7

Dubz wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 9:56 am DAY 2 FLAVOR UPDATED

Yes I am very behind on flavor, don't @ me

@Dubz

Somewhere santy's ears perked up and he doesn't know why.