The Syndicate

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:42 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:36 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:33 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:26 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:00 pm Evening One is underway

ah the other thread is at work

I'm not sure if there is another thread going on right now; there don't seem to be enough people online for that to be the case. Perhaps it's going on on Discord?

27 signed up for this game, 13 are in this thread, you can't see this thread without an account

so there's a thread concurrent to us, and they're at work

If that were true, we'd be able to see people online who are in that thread, yet we don't. It's not an issue with the account, either, as the number of people online is consistent between when I'm logged on and off.

what are u talking about, you can’t see this thread if you’re logged out lmao

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:44 pm As per the rules we should not discuss or read into technical quirks like that.

don’t worry, i would never break rules in any way

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:14 am Sample vanilla town role card
You're a severed employee working at Lumon Industries (town).

You have no special abilities.

keyword being "severed lumon employee"

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:33 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:26 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:00 pm Evening One is underway

ah the other thread is at work

I'm not sure if there is another thread going on right now; there don't seem to be enough people online for that to be the case. Perhaps it's going on on Discord?

27 signed up for this game, 13 are in this thread, you can't see this thread without an account

so there's a thread concurrent to us, and they're at work

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:00 pm Evening One is underway

ah the other thread is at work

one twink down, many more to go

wait what, i thought you were answering your own questions too

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:18 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:05 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:48 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:39 pm Do I believe that Ran believes Dizzy is a wolf and would shoot him right now?

It's selfish, but every game there's some handful of people who just shout "wolfmilia!" and I give them way too much good faith, and then they just end up being like one townie and all the wolves. So I've resolved to stop doing that as much. Also it's uncharacteristic of dizzy as either alignment to be this flaccid.

but at least you oughta be giving it pause and not soft launching it in a question and answer it’s like the only serious wolf read you’ve voiced

Yo what is this shade? Votes aren't open, mac hasn't posted, schweppes has barely posted (and would be my second choice rn). What exactly do you mean by "giving it pause"? Why are you hover handing me with this implication that I should have more "serious wolf reads"?

put your faith in me to godread schweppes

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:19 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:46 pm i’ve bought 2.5lbs of shrimp

deveined? wild caught? previously frozen? jumbo?

shrimp cooked tail on

.5lbs jumbo, 2lbs large

i’ve bought 2.5lbs of shrimp

i may be wrong but i voted right on top of disq and rabbit there. they were trapping all right but i’m big game. but in general i think your read is correct and i know you were playing particularly close attention to how i played that game, and are reading me correctly for the right reasons here. instead of some chicanery we both could pull as w/t as either alignment to make things messy, blah blah blah

let’s continue to mason this game

the drinks i’ve had have been nonzero

do you see calculation from me?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:06 pm (translation for peanut gallery: what I get out of that is that I do believe robyn as an instinct driven, socially wary ego wolf. In this game so far robyn exudes 0% instinct or ego drive, they drip with poor little meow meow energy. I've been sitting on some amount of trepidation regarding their approaches to schweppes/gira/the game as a whole but I think I am pretty satisfied now to actually read them as town for real.)

wdym 0 instinct

?????

what you would've found in wolf chat was two noob!scum (although vik is fucking godly) listening to my advice, and me being super instructive and knowing everything that would happen before it did. there wasn't any debate or theorizing or anything. i told vik to nk rabbit then dizzy because dizzy would secure the chop on someone and tr him, whereas rabbit had less influence and he was less sure of himself too. so the nk order alone bought him another day

it was just irrelevant from my end where i was being instructive and all knowing

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:48 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:46 pm @Ranmilia do u have any questions beyond my beakdown?

Why do you barely mention vik at all? What went on in wolfchat?

nothing from my end, bunch of me telling vik and xan what to do. i told vik point blank that he couldn't powerwolf and his singular goal was to appear towny. and that a bit into d1 he would realize that us wolves really don't have control over the chop. i gave xan and vik a list of players to not push, and i said pretty strongly to avoid alison/frog shenanigans. gave them other advice irt how to not fall for bait because disq and rabbit had communicated without words that they would vote the same person at the same time and i knew that they were just waiting for some shmuck to vote there. nobody does and they both unvote silently

i learned and gained nothing, it was purely me giving advice and instructions of how to play in such a list and how to be townread and etc

vik wasn't present at all in wolf chat and i didn't pay much attention to him in thread either. i said "let's just play in different corners of the thread and not interact" and that worked until 75% into d3

@Ranmilia do u have any questions beyond my beakdown?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:40 pm The schweppes meta comments have nothing to do with schweppes ftr

you thought his meta was hellbussing then said nvm, that's about him

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:40 pm Is Schweppes actually in this game?

@Bereft

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:39 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:36 pm Let Dizzy cook.

I'm serving it up raw this game

nsfw

fuck is this, wwa has no wolf games on mu

schweppes needs to post more, but i am giving him time, within 10-20 real posts i'll have read him accurately

hope mac posts

hope dizzy actually elaborates on ran, bc methinks ran town

like he's trying to figure out exactly what schweppes meta is, then he goes to pyxxy (and freely townread him) and is subsequently correctly critical of the way that he incorrectly read him here. awfully convoluted to go through that thought process. disagreed with ran irt to what he found towny

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:26 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:20 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:17 pm Pyxxy town

Elaborate.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Apr 15, 2023 11:59 pm The top poster, a presumably obvious town player, and me, a person pyxxy has never played with and cannot possibly have garnered a real read on.

Huh ok reading back the only game pyxxy and I played together and noting that I need to start actually considering suspicions instead of hiding them with the word “presumably”

Anyways level zero meta read off one game tbh. Which is probably kinda bad

this post and posts from here on are good

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:51 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:49 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:47 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:47 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:44 pm Bold of you to assume that me knowing that someone is Schweppes would impact my reads. I have no reads. Besides, I do not know who Schweppes is.

Got any actual thoughts for us?

yes I’ve given some of them

Not having thoughts is not a thought.

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

do you remember what conclusions we came to?

actually gonna read tsp's iso now

also unsure how i have this many posts

i'm unsure on pyxxy, but he's a low poster and i have trouble with those, tsp i'm also unsure of, but i'll force an interaction with him once there's a bit more content

i'm not confident in ever reading dizzy accurately for the right reasons d1, also free day pass so whatever

writing done

i'll take ran/leetic/wwa/gira as town

abbie might be town, less confident on that, and i'll read dubz when they most more

so the spec chat invitational v2, i recognize that the playerlist was incredibly strong and i really wanted to town, i had 2 wolf rands prior to this game, disq/rabbit were both one alignment town players that i would have had a great time playing with. however i rand mafia, and i am pretty dissapointed as xan got voted out d1 in another game and i haven't played with vik. i come into the game expecting to solo wolf in absolute misery, but i can't do nothing because i have a reputation to uphold and i've seen strong towns self destruct before

day one starts and mendes/illario/schweppes all find one another as town and alison suspects me before i even got online. the day started at fucking 6am for me, so it couldn't be helped and i start posting awfully, and i'm just in a bad mood at the start because everyone's so fucking towny, i'm doing the worst out of my team and i find it difficult to integrate into the game

i finally get home and write 4 wall posts and figure out essentially the town leaders and schweppes. everyone involved knows i have an ego, am a dangerous wolf, and plan to do well in such a player list with a spectator chat. i am simply rising to the occasion. so when i do bad that's concerning, but eventually i start analyzing and asking the right questions and as rabbit said "started to be more towny". rabbit at this point hard suspects me/schweppes/illario because we are similar people and we all come off as having tmi as either alignment. and due to out of game reasoning we would play close together

rabbit is like on my ass, disq is on xan, and illario has bad reads, schweppes is townreading me as well as plenty of other players. as ran correctly stated in this thread already, i fucking hate early sus, i need to constantly be aware of what multiple people are doing and thinking in order for me to effectively post well (as both alignments but more so as mafia). so i achieve this and i post towny. i don't particularly know what or how i posted d1-3 in that game either. really what i was doing was providing a steady stream of content and actively solving and pushing and reshuffling. all of it was fake of course but i also wasn't insightful at all

when i'm town i'll be many steps ahead of everyone, this almost always holds true. i make people surprised and i make people question, and i will tell people they're wrong. not many players ever surprise me in a way that's not self evident. i would like to think of myself as a godly powerwolf, however this definition has been disputed. the other definition for me is someone who is very pocket-y and someone who will absolutely destroy thread health to get what i want. i've done it before and i'll do it again

anyway in this game i vote violet at the end of day 1 which is something that I would never do, illario later tells me that he would've suspected me for this had he survived the night. prince goes afk for a majority of d2 and his chop isn't worth mentioning really, it was just so slow and all of it consisted of reshuffling and hyping up the point of view that "prince obvious mafia, next mafia is in [x,y, and z] ggez let's play next" and just had to keep up the activity and be present

during d2 i kind of joat read schweppes along with disq, i decide to kill disq and fake claim joat, on d2. this is because schweppes pushing me is something i don't actually see as possible. i claim joat, let him know i'm doubling, he takes the n3 nk, and a complete ruckus happens d4 where i continue to be near confirmed town

my joat read was wrong, schweppes admitted to FPS'ing, fucking mac of all people subs in and it's actually horrible. to make matters worse i show up drunk to eod and out myself. then d4 is annoying because rabbit/dizzy find one another and me and vik are pushed to the back. i'm happy because my death unclears cait, implicates schweppes, and does not implicate viks

i think i played pretty fucking well then just threw, i made no mistakes and would have lived until f5 had i not drunk posted, multiple tunnels didn't make me nervous and i tricked many great townies

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:00 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:53 pm im not aware of how much leetic's improved, but a lot of years ago, if he was not being influential, he was a wolf. this is basically a full 180 from that, so i lean village

if he's decided to emulate this as his wolfgame, then godspeed. it's draining


and imo you should put wwa in villa list, it's possible they could've faked their reaction to my mech callout, but it doesn't seem that way to me. i kinda lean a wolf would know exactly what i mean, and not that people haven't posted. if it's faked on the spot then it's a pretty witty frame swap

Yeah the mech is definitely a thing. I suppose we're far enough in now that I can say that's also what I was doing.

@leetic So, remember my first post? It wasn't fluff, it's a quote from the TV show the game is based on, and it has a meaning in context. It was indeed a friendly opener but also it was a probe to see who would recognize it and be familiar with the flavor. leetic, wind and pyxxy all showed they were unfamiliar, Gira seemed to catch it (and also affirmed this signal back as early as p#88 and reaffirmed it recently when ted brought the mech up again).

i watched the entire show, but when it first first came out, within a few days

so i know all of it but quotes will go over my head

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:48 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:46 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:46 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:24 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:20 pm i think i know who i wanna lunch already

oh boay :/

Is it me

you’re safe for now

is it me :3

no, i was going to give you a pass d1 regardless cuz we killed you in some elmo game

do you know me by my other name insomnia?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:46 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:24 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:20 pm i think i know who i wanna lunch already

oh boay :/

Is it me

you’re safe for now

is it me :3

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:42 pm Anyway, where did Dyslexicon go?

:3

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:36 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:35 pm Although I will say that I'm beginning to add "thread health" to my list of mafia pet peeves. As long as activity is going on, that shouldn't be a concern.

You mean in terms of thread getting too heated, or thread getting too quiet?

or too packed with abbie spam

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:30 pm Am I towny robyn?

you’re being annoying in a nai way that is negatively affecting thread health, stop posting

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:30 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:30 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:30 pm I play to socialize lol

go be with caitlin

Hot.

I'm talking to her

stop playing maf and do that + eat ur ice cream cake

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:30 pm I play to socialize lol

go be with caitlin

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:29 pm abbie get off, you’re drunk

and you spamming worse than usual is bad for thread health

abbie get off, you’re drunk

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:26 pm Well anyway, now that I've wasted everyone's time arguing about that, what's next in the discussion topics?

twinks

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:16 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:13 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:11 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:08 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:07 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:53 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:51 pm

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

they’re louder than you, as am i, gotta deal with it because you’ll get nothing by arguing with leetic. just play your game and understand that openly contradicting yourself is something i did in the flipless game and it’s something they will do too, just gotta deal

I have absolutely no idea what this is supposed to mean but I can be very loud if I want to be
This probably isn't the right time for it, though, and tbh I'm thinking I should actually just stop caring and shut up about it until endgame if I'm alive

classic robyn post

i’ll rephrase when i’m home

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:16 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:15 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:13 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:13 pmtsp kinda scummy

Do elaborate.

the whole fixation on the schweppes alt thing is like

he's putting a lot of attention to it across several posts but i don't see why he cares so much about it or why it should matter. comes across as preoccupying himself with something to talk about that isn't actually related to figuring out alignments

Robyn promised to write 700 words about it, now that’s fixation

that’s not what i was gonna write about

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:12 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:11 pm Ok actually if the Schweppes meta isn’t 0-post or rwstfo I don’t really get the discussion about outting


But it’s also a reasonably outed alt (source I did 10 seconds of research into Schweppes meta and saw it)

Someone outs Schweppes every single time he alts so tbh there was no way he'd escape a meta read if there's a solid one

someone goes by my name ftr, every time actually

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:11 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:08 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:07 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:53 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:51 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:49 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:47 pm

yes I’ve given some of them

Not having thoughts is not a thought.

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

Yeah but does anyone seriously think the openers from Gira and Ran were indicative of alignment?? Why is that not fluff?

they’re louder than you, as am i, gotta deal with it because you’ll get nothing by arguing with leetic. just play your game and understand that openly contradicting yourself is something i did in the flipless game and it’s something they will do too, just gotta deal

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:07 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:53 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:51 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:49 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:47 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:47 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:44 pm Bold of you to assume that me knowing that someone is Schweppes would impact my reads. I have no reads. Besides, I do not know who Schweppes is.

Got any actual thoughts for us?

yes I’ve given some of them

Not having thoughts is not a thought.

I like seeing existent discussion between Ran / WWA / Robyn because I think they are capable of coming to reasonably conclusions but I cannot bring myself to pretend that I think such discussions are useful or necessary

What do you think of their discussions thus far? This post is just fluff

I like how leetic is allowed to call other people's posts fluff but for some reason I'm not

you’re allowed, you just haven’t been calling posts “fluff” as effectively as leetic

abbie have u read any of this game while being sober

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:35 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:29 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:10 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:09 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:07 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:00 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:55 pm

You do know what GTH means right?

i do but i’ll give u the same answer, i don’t wanna prematurely make reads, i’m not even on laptop and i’ve not read you and windwards thing except like one or two random posts

i play primarily by intuition and i won’t forcefully move the needle, especially when we have a 3 day d1 essentially

if i had to guess

i can accurately read ran/wwa/bereft within 24-48h if not sooner

you can be town by aggressive play and generating discussion but like, what the hell do you expect, i’m not particularly entertained by your play and i’m almost certainly more aggressive, so you just exist and i’ll punish a drop off or punish bad reads but generally reward you being solvey

mac and dizzy i’m not chopping d1 here

blah blah idk who else has posted off the top of my head

Why is the only thing that is even remotely a read just "you can be town"? Saying you can read people in the future or that you're "not chopping" people isn't a read

I would qualify a no-chop list as some sort of a readlist, personally, but that's because I would only put reads above null for the day as no-chop.

"I wouldn't lynch this person because I think they're town" is a read. "I wouldn't lynch this person" isn't.

I wouldn't lynch anyone. That's mean. Kumbayah.

But if you could vote, and had to, who would you pick?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:31 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:16 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:15 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:14 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:12 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Nov 13, 2023 11:11 pm

Since you're clearly more familiar with them than me, what is your impression of their posts so far?

your question of what compelled them to ask me that question and what they have learned from my description of sci will make whatever i say about them before inert

aka i’m waiting to see how they handle me, everything else is noise

Lame. Even if your impression will be outdated, you still have an impression. Being able to see someone's progression is useful.

i simply don’t have an impression yet

Then you must not have read their posts, for that is the only explanation for you not having an impression. As I mentioned before, my impression was lukewarm.

I read their posts and I don't have an impression (real)

And what does not having an impression tell you about their alignment? They've been one of the more (relatively) active players, you should be able to find something

@abbie respond to this

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 1:44 pm Bold of you to assume that me knowing that someone is Schweppes would impact my reads. I have no reads. Besides, I do not know who Schweppes is.

good, you don’t wanna know someone that wicked

ted do to have an mu account?

also if anyone accidentally got logged out of their account they should’ve noticed that you have to be logged in to see this thread. kind of implies that there’s a thread running concurrently that we cannot see