The Syndicate

Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.

Falcon in song form:

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:28 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:25 pm Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.
Thoughts on Le petit pousse and Valentine?

Le petit felt flaily and I was not a fan of them making a read off rvs fluff based off content (and not tone)

Valentine is playing the new kid card so I'm giving them till mid D1 to get comfortable before I read them.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:29 pm
risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:06 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:56 pm
risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:54 pm i really want to townread sabi again :/
Kill me before limlo.
lol, you saying this just makes me think ur townier

but fair enough
based on our last go round I'm not giving sabi a town read until I see a corpse or a green check

Wow how long is this salt going to last?

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:30 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:25 pm Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.
I'm still catching up, so you might have said so already, but can you elaborate on your read?

Almost every game I have played on here (7) I think, Falcon has been in.

Falcon is burnt out from randing mafia to the point he will not engage with the game and just shit post.

The fact he's engaged and showing passion just means he town.

He's polarized tocthe extreme

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:37 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:35 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:29 pm
risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:06 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:56 pm
risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 8:54 pm i really want to townread sabi again :/
Kill me before limlo.
lol, you saying this just makes me think ur townier

but fair enough
based on our last go round I'm not giving sabi a town read until I see a corpse or a green check
Wow how long is this salt going to last?
till I catch wolf sabi or become comfortable finding town sabi. That is to say by the end of this game I'll have a decision one way or the other

I was town in the mash.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:35 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:25 pm Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.
which is funny because he is voting you

Based off rickrolling him

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:41 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:39 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:30 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:25 pm Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.
I'm still catching up, so you might have said so already, but can you elaborate on your read?
Almost every game I have played on here (7) I think, Falcon has been in.

Falcon is burnt out from randing mafia to the point he will not engage with the game and just shit post.

The fact he's engaged and showing passion just means he town.

He's polarized tocthe extreme
falcon pretty much fooled me in the baseball game.

Was that before or during his mafia burn out. Saga?

Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:42 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:39 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:30 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:25 pm Falcon is my only solid town read

Billboard town.
I'm still catching up, so you might have said so already, but can you elaborate on your read?
Almost every game I have played on here (7) I think, Falcon has been in.

Falcon is burnt out from randing mafia to the point he will not engage with the game and just shit post.

The fact he's engaged and showing passion just means he town.

He's polarized tocthe extreme
is casually making personal remarks about players he's responding to when he doesn't agree with them in every post addressed to or about them justfalconthings™ as well?

Unfortunately yes.

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:46 pm Where do people make the 3x3s? I want to show everyone how boringly RYM canon I am.

https://tapmusic.net/

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:14 pm This is Strawhenge to the thread: I have some initial thoughts.

1. I like Schiavetto so far, man. They're getting down to brass tacks. I also don't know this player, and some of you cats are taking issue with them.

2. Somehow the typed version of this kind of thing unsettles me more than when spoken, man. It's probably harmless but it also made the back of my neck feel damp in a bad way.

4. Oh no, there's more. One of these two is scum. It's a gut read, but mark my words, man.

5. Okay, but for real, since I don't know a lot of you, someone tell me if this is normal for Valentine because Grandfather Strawhenge doesn't like it, no sir.

6. Huh. Not diggin this, man. I know it could be a jokey response to a jokey post, but I read this as the confidence of someone who might know Valentine is town.

7. I like DeeZees too. Drunk but playing the game like a townie. That usually bodes well, man. Usually.

8. Quick aside: I have to relearn all of your Syndicate lingo. It's like I'm reading a different language.

9. Not in love with the 'yeah sure' approach here. @Inawordyes, what about Falcon's ISO made you agree that he's scum?

10. Like, seriously, 'walrus'? The hell is that. What the hell is that. What are these acronyms. What's RvS. I am an elderly man.

11. Maybe I'm old-fashioned but I'm not fond of the sort of pugnacious style as displayed by Creature. Unexplained vote, unexplained re-vote, says everyone is boring them, gives a couple brief, wishy-washy posts, accuses me of complaining about an active thread not long after saying the thread is boring... I'm out of touch with y'all's meta, but if this was RYM ca. 2015, Creature would be playing right out of the scum playbook.

to be continued so my post isn't long as hell

5. That's normal

8. What lingo besides walrus and rvs is troubling you?

10. Walrus is not mafia. It's a song submission competition. Rvs (don't know what the letters mean) is just the first few hours of the game start of fluff and what not.

11. Normal creature

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:25 pm Please don't apologize @Valentine; I'm just old and instinctively revert to ancient mafia meta.

When was your last mafia game?

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:30 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:26 pm
Strawhenge wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:25 pm Please don't apologize @Valentine; I'm just old and instinctively revert to ancient mafia meta.
When was your last mafia game?
Last year, and that was my first in years.

Welcome back!

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 10:40 pm Nobody in this game has good music taste

What is your music taste then

This is a good song to add to your mafia playlist

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:16 pm I find it hard to believe that all y'all busy and got plans on a Friday night, and that I'm the only loser at home on his own playing Mafia.

C'mon, who's out here with me?

I'm here and don't know what to say lol

I can just keep posting music

Guillotine wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:21 pm
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:10 pm Inaw using vibes to read me when they've never played with me before and thus have no vibe context is so absurd it's quite likely town
1) We have played together haha, 2) I walked back the vibe read after thinking about it, and stated it in the post, 3) I am back on you now, but same destination different train; I have a content read and I explained why I think that content, in-context, looks scummy coming from you

throwing shade at my ability to be trustworthy and accurate with my reads while you also throw a deescalating townread on me is really funny ngl because it looks like you're trying to placate me to get me off your back
Do you actually believe you're an accurate SR typically?

Huh. Wouldn't have thought that from what I've seen.

Oh, I don't care about your vote on me, or "getting off my back"...in fact, it's more proof you don't know me very well
Falcon/Inaworyes not w/w based on this interaction

Wow no one would have ever caught that.

What would we do without you for finding these undiscovered ge. S

69th post

@Chelsea since I assume you read the whole game, I was putting pressure on creature to do anything.

He dropped two naked votes and dipped.

I was annoyed and seeing if this was limp wolf rand creature or not esp because he was saying he was bored.

Obviously if you are reading this after the fact it looks like fluff but in real time it was not.

@LordQuas @Chelsea its few hours into D1, I am going to throw out drive by reads that's what I do when games are uncapped.

My play style is like this.

LordQuas wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:18 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:17 am @LordQuas @Chelsea its few hours into D1, I am going to throw out drive by reads that's what I do when games are uncapped.

My play style is like this.
that's what i was saying

I just don't understand her criticism of me but whatever

How does quas have more post than me

Valentine wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:42 pm no one has any respect for gentle curiosity anymore >.>

Do you think they are pushing you for genuine reasons or not?

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:43 am When will I make a game related post

Hopefully soon?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:38 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:16 pm I find it hard to believe that all y'all busy and got plans on a Friday night, and that I'm the only loser at home on his own playing Mafia.

C'mon, who's out here with me?
I'm here and don't know what to say lol
I'm giving you a mild TR for raisins, tho I will say your meta read on my slot, while correct, is super EZ for any experienced player w/ me to fake as Maf

I mean yea you should not be tring for that.

I am good at meta reading lol

What are the raisins

Good night. I should also sleep

Valentine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:58 am
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:40 am
Valentine wrote: ↑Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:42 pm no one has any respect for gentle curiosity anymore >.>
Do you think they are pushing you for genuine reasons or not?
i err towards genuine i Think. i want to clarify this doesn't mean .. town genuine?
it's an easy nitpick wrt how i post to call me wishy washy or hedgy, i think like it's a natural thing to jump on

(i'm being very pedantic but i think this question is better phrased in other ways lol. but yes, i think it's a real suspicion right now)

It's 2 am but yea I meant coming from towny genuine sense. Words r hard

@Cape90 uh don't make reads based off ate, it's something I have been working on and it's all NAI since I ate equally in both alignments. I really don't like reads based off that esp when I'm trying to curb it in my games.

Please and ty

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:36 am BTW I’m Kate Bush and 3P

Are you running up the hills to say that?

Anyway what is your wincon if you're 3p and what was your intentions of posting this?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:19 am Oh this is absolutely karma that I've missed 15 pages of posts
I'm at a party soon but I'll pop in when I can, and save the catchup for later. Hype though, this is gonna be fun!

WINDWARD!!!!

Whenever you catch up I would love to know your thots.

Also hopefully you are town.

I get why yall think my questions are just Filler but it's not for me.

If you look at my fluff close enough you can see my takes/opinions hidden in it.

I do find it dz catch up pretty shallow and he's still very much in his wolf range.

The fact he won't be around for 24 hours doesn't help either because I want to pressure him.

@rask I think I have only played with you when you have been mafia, no? The only game I can remember is the one that Logic hosted who's game name is escaping me atm.

The Falcon x Schiav x Chelsea thing is something I want to relook at because it feels like there is one non town in here.

I also forgot that this set up has 3p so maybe I'm not as confident on Falcon being town. Just confident he's not maf if that makes sense.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:04 pm It would seem there's some confusion on what I mean/meant by "white knighting":

White Knighting is when an individual inserts themselves into a situation with the sole purpose of making themselves look good.

I do feel Chelsea did this, and I don't think it's particularly towny.

Can you expand on why you don't think it's particularly towny?

Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:11 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:07 pm The Falcon x Schiav x Chelsea thing is something I want to relook at because it feels like there is one non town in here.
What's giving you this feeling?

Just something about the the way the conversation was being steered when I was reading it while driving by. I want to relook at it in a couple of hours Ave see if it was just in my head or not. Expect a more detailed response by then.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:11 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:09 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:04 pm It would seem there's some confusion on what I mean/meant by "white knighting":

White Knighting is when an individual inserts themselves into a situation with the sole purpose of making themselves look good.

I do feel Chelsea did this, and I don't think it's particularly towny.

Can you expand on why you don't think it's particularly towny?
Cuz' town shouldn't & often don't care about this. Maf do tho

I mean arogrant town, ego heavy town, etc tend to do that so that's why I'm asking. They want to big up themselves to be leader. So I don't think it's necessarily that black and white.

Do I think Chelsea fits that mold? From what I have specced in cats vs dogs and another game (one was town Ave the other was maf), she's very confident and boastful regardless of her alignment.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:18 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:15 pm
Chelsea wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:11 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:07 pm The Falcon x Schiav x Chelsea thing is something I want to relook at because it feels like there is one non town in here.
What's giving you this feeling?
Just something about the the way the conversation was being steered when I was reading it while driving by. I want to relook at it in a couple of hours Ave see if it was just in my head or not. Expect a more detailed response by then.
Im officially moving Sabi down to the Concerns tier for this.

That's fine and valid.

At the way the reads are being thrown around everyone is a 3p

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:17 pm
@hollowkatt

1. hollowkat's first handful of posts are pretty playful. '#obligatory' rando-vote on LPP, razzing the drunk guy, having the correct opinion on uwu speak, hating music to the point where I would encourage them to make an RYM account, etc. Being playful on D1—especially within hours of the start of the game—is largely null. I've seen town and scum behave in exactly the same way.

2. See, but then, couched in the playfulness is a post I already commented on: 'yeah sure you can be town why not' in response to Valentine. This is a light scumdar ping. A very light scumdar ping—the breath of a whisper of a memory of a dream of a feathery little kiss of a scumdar ping. In context it aligns with hollowkat's playful presentation. But there's an air of confidence there that I have trouble ignoring. Again: an extremely light scumdar ping.

3. Votes Creature, 'for reasons I refuse to explain'. This is interesting because this comes after the posts where Creature overcame his boredom and started discussing things. If this is a joke/rando vote, it's oddly timed.

4. The response to IAWY's Falcon read feels like an analytical town response. I would challenge it with a question for @hollowkatt: What's your read on Zeus? So far, your only mention of Zeus is that '[drinking] usually makes [him] funnier', and that, 'petit/zeus not w/w'.

5. I'm not loving the meta suspicion of Sabi. I have historically been guilty of meta-sussing players (hi JJJ), and it has never really served the game. This doesn't make me lean town or scum for hollowkatt, but I'm putting a pin in it.

6. can only imagine dragons siren.gif siren.gif siren.gif

7. This LordQuas-blindness is weird to me. As hollowkatt mentions, LQ had 35 posts in the thread by that point, and there were plenty game-related ones in those 35. They then concede that they haven't been backreading. For a Syndicate game with 12 pages at the time of that post, not backreading isn't necessarily a sign of disengagement and laziness, so I don't have an alignment read on it. I just think it's bizarre that hollowkatt just didn't 'recognize and read' any of LQ's nearly-three-dozen posts up until that point.

--
TL;DR I'm mostly getting a null read on hollowkatt with just a, whew, just a dust particle of a thought of a dream of a zephyr of a whiff of scumdar ping. Possibly 3P? Not going to lean scum, but I'm definitely gonna keep my eye on hollowkatt, man.

BTW I appreciate your formating and numbering of these posts. Makes it easier for me so I don't resort to highlighting.

Anyway 7. I do have theories that mafia tend to throw one these one liners at partners to make it appear they look good if they flip as a form of distancing but this theory relies on hk flipping w which would drive up quas w equity in my eyes. Disregard if either flip town first.

Back to 5. I think it's weird he hasn't found anyone scummy after pressuring valentine earlier to not move his vote off me. It's going to be pretty lazy and scummy if him to keep resorting to me snowing him our last game to vote me even if he Durant believe he scumreads me

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:25 pm I’m hoping Strawhenge is town because they are recapping peoples ISOs so I don’t have to read the game.

Mvp

I don't like that strategy.

People can manipulate iso wall post cases to fit their agenda. Not mention things or over mention things or just purposely misread things.

I rather you read the iso themselves.

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:21 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:17 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:36 am BTW I’m Kate Bush and 3P
Are you running up the hills to say that?

Anyway what is your wincon if you're 3p and what was your intentions of posting this?
My wincon is to learn what people’s roles are or something. My intentions of posting this were to see what would happen

Oh.

Is it a game ending wincon?

Well what do you think of the reactions that you received?

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:46 pm Everyone should know you can highlight-quote instead of quoting a long wall only to respond to a tiny portion smh

Only learning about this feature my 8th game

Strawhenge wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:37 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:30 pmAnyway 7. I do have theories that mafia tend to throw one these one liners at partners to make it appear they look good if they flip as a form of distancing but this theory relies on hk flipping w which would drive up quas w equity in my eyes. Disregard if either flip town first.
This is a great point. I was thinking I'd take a gander at LQ after my initial four ISOs, but I might do theirs sooner.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:30 pmBack to 5. I think it's weird he hasn't found anyone scummy after pressuring valentine earlier to not move his vote off me. It's going to be pretty lazy and scummy if him to keep resorting to me snowing him our last game to vote me even if he Durant believe he scumreads me
I agree. Meta-reads on D1 aren't usually something to stick to until EOD, in my opinion. He did say he doesn't see where a town-read on Zeus is coming from. Hopefully he'll elaborate on that.

I di agree with his observations on dz. He's very much in his wolf range. Even tho I had a half ass reasoning to first vote him, there hasn't been anything to make me stop furthering sring him.

Hello @Mungbean and @pyxxy

Would like you both to participate uwu

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:46 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:32 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:25 pm I’m hoping Strawhenge is town because they are recapping peoples ISOs so I don’t have to read the game.

Mvp
I don't like that strategy.

People can manipulate iso wall post cases to fit their agenda. Not mention things or over mention things or just purposely misread things.

I rather you read the iso themselves.
Yeah I was being sarcastic. I live with too much paranoia to trust other people’s opinion of the game

So why say it at all? Why haven't you stated any opinions? Most of your content is about egaming and how people are producing verbose reads and asking when will you engage with the game?

Valentine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:24 pm town
chelsea
daughterofomega
strawhenge

townm..?
falcon45ca
hollowkatt
risiinq
schiavetto

meh
coliniscool
creature
deezees
iba
inawordyes
petit
lordquas
mungbean
thefloyd73
windwardaway

...meh...
cape90
guillotine
nutella
pyxxy
sabiplz

this is based almost entirely on vibez and scraps of memories

How is daughter omega town? Can you explain that read.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:53 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:19 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:19 am Oh this is absolutely karma that I've missed 15 pages of posts
I'm at a party soon but I'll pop in when I can, and save the catchup for later. Hype though, this is gonna be fun!
WINDWARD!!!!

Whenever you catch up I would love to know your thots.

Also hopefully you are town.
Honestly I'm surprised I didn't see any other comments on my post till here lol
I'm town and I'm also drunk so just popping in and checking the thread
I think I'm missing context on the conversations that are ongoing tho

Drink some water and eat toast. When should you be back in the thread because by the time you wake up we will be halfway thru D1?

Valentine wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:57 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 2:40 pm How is daughter omega town? Can you explain that read.
i don't really get the sense daughter... has a lot of stake in what happens? like it's early on but she's just posting and living her best life. there's no urgency to establish herself

How is not posting any thoughts about the game towny tho? I would assume the lack of stake is wolf motivated.

I am not getting how any of this is legitimate read

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