The Syndicate

Feel like wolf HK who does a fake out visor NKA to spew him always comes out with a fire in his belly here tbh.

Mac, do you feel you are struggling this game?

I just have no proof that Sabi has that wolf inside of them and comparing them to the game I wolfed with them feels pretty bonkers to me tbh.

I just wolfed against Sabi on fol and everything about them here is a decent reminder of that game.

I don't know how to read you two in relation to one another tbh. You guys have a very strange relationship that I don't understand.

Maybe I should borrow a line from Sabi and say Sabi is only a wolf with you as their partner or something funny. Actually I kind of believe that because maybe Sabi has the wolf in them to eat all of us, but given how you two have interplayed this game it feels possibly partnered.

Outside of that tinfoil though they sound very similar to Umineko on fol and would have to be playing super well to mimic that, especially in relation to how they are handling me.

Oh, well I 1000% disagree with that take. To me they feel entirely different. A lot less AtE, and their pushes are much stronger here.

Sure, I town read people for that.

Can you link me to a good example of a good sabi wolf performance?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:28 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:27 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:23 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:22 pm I feel like trusting with my life now in Ris, Porscha, nook and Lily. Prob in that order.

I thought that maybe ow kill was one to maintain status quo in thread, but just glossing at player list wilgs was there and feels like far more juicier then Outed Wolf there to kill so eeeeeh Im still lost on why ow could die.

I see the mac case and like yeah, could be. But also it isnt like, too much level 0 as a take? Mac isn the only scum so there should be two other people who would agree with that and why???

Why does this kill make sense for me?

I say it is level 0 cause you were one of the few people that put them as top town. Like, a W!Mac would expect people to also see that ow was obvtowning or something and kill there. Feel like its a basic train of thought and even then completely ignores you having two more partners. So I feel that there should be something more to it

I townread visor because he shared the bulk of my reads. Agreed that ender was wolfier than HK. Agreed that lily was scummy. Agreed that achro was scummy. I was right.

(at the time you made that call on visor you had me as town)

@santygrass thoughts on mac atm?

I am curious why Sabi is a wolf too as they are pretty copy/paste from Umineko on fol

right down to being annoyed over one wolf read.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:42 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:41 pm What did you re-evaluate

You have an open agenda of killing town and are revelling in it so if you're not mafia I can just kill you and blame you for being wrong.

oic

What did you re-evaluate

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:39 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:36 pm if Mac is W I kinda want to turbo Jack lol.

If Mac V probably need to go over my town feelings a lot more.

I rather turbo santy over jack because I do see the w/w partnership age santy also benefitting from visor kill because visor was on him.

I could see that. I know santy is a very good wolf so it wouldn't surprise me if I thought better of him day 1 than I should have. I think I really liked his view of the game in terms of reads, so I'll examine those more.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:36 pm lily/esooa
achro
jack/sabi

gg

you called me lock scum for being okay with going after jack day 1 and now you say this was a bus by me.

OK.

if Mac is W I kinda want to turbo Jack lol.

If Mac V probably need to go over my town feelings a lot more.

Mac, I think you are playing very well and are a paragon of good play.

Unfortunately in this flavor it means you are not town.

I will honor Visor's legacy of HK never wolf here as I think that could be a reason why he died. HK needs to calm down though lol

Santy I thought had some good posts but I did think earlier in the day at one point mac/santy had w/w equity but I forget what it was now.

I probably need some convincing on Santy, but I am open to it as I haven't really played with them before.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:22 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:21 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:20 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:19 pm wagons being tied is how visor popped off, town told to kingdom come, and died for it

it was pro town tbh

But santy wanted wagons to be tied.

He wanted no kill.

Tied wagons was anti town

Given he switched back I think he was podracing unless I misunderstod.

He explained he wanted wagons tied.

I thought he meant "tied at that moment" for reactions, because I felt similar but I might be projcting.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:20 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:19 pm wagons being tied is how visor popped off, town told to kingdom come, and died for it

it was pro town tbh

But santy wanted wagons to be tied.

He wanted no kill.

Tied wagons was anti town

Given he switched back I think he was podracing unless I misunderstod.

I was nice and gave mac some time to town it up by going after someone who I didn't town read.

Mac won't be getting a second day from me.

wagons being tied is how visor popped off, town told to kingdom come, and died for it

it was pro town tbh

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:16 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:13 pm ow: *hardly exists*

mac: aha look at that ow. top town for sure

ow: *squints eyes at mac*

everyone else: wtf is this read

mac: oh haha c'maaaaan look at ow he's just so towny c'mon guys

*ow dies*

mac: aw darn I can't believe me making the god read on ow out of absolutely nowhere got ow killed. damn that's crazy

Mac was also a proponent of the lynch being w/v while visor was saying v/v

v/v possible I should say.

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 10:13 pm ow: *hardly exists*

mac: aha look at that ow. top town for sure

ow: *squints eyes at mac*

everyone else: wtf is this read

mac: oh haha c'maaaaan look at ow he's just so towny c'mon guys

*ow dies*

mac: aw darn I can't believe me making the god read on ow out of absolutely nowhere got ow killed. damn that's crazy

Mac was also a proponent of the lynch being w/v while visor was saying v/v

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 9:13 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:59 pm Anyway how is everyone feeling about HK given how the wagons went down?

Well him pretending to not know visor alignment is not doing him any favors...

Yeah that is a thing alright.

Anyway how is everyone feeling about HK given how the wagons went down?

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:57 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:54 pm Man the Bucs usually suck, leave me alone lol

They still suck

lol

Man the Bucs usually suck, leave me alone lol

Bucs are currently playing, hype.

Go Tampa

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:45 pm Football is on.

Outed death points primarily at Me/Lily, there might have been a third name that I am not recalling off the top.

Ender's last legacy no longer applies, that's kind of funny tbh

First order of business is to decide if that was v/w or v/v

Notably Visor would say v/v I believe.

Football is on.

Outed death points primarily at Me/Lily, there might have been a third name that I am not recalling off the top.

Ender's last legacy no longer applies, that's kind of funny tbh

First order of business is to decide if that was v/w or v/v

my legacy is jack is wolf gg

sticking to my vote, gl lol

no kill here would be amazing in all of the worst ways tbh

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:53 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:52 pm oh jesus this does have 3300 posts.

When did that happen.

I blame Sabi and myself.

Why am k being dragged into this

post count

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:52 pm I mean if this is v/v I'm not shocked, I just think Hkatt is more villagery than Ender. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

I would rather kill outside these wagons but nobody but Sabi has seemed interested in it.

Might want to re-evaluate me over night, friend.

oh jesus this does have 3300 posts.

When did that happen.

I blame Sabi and myself.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:50 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:48 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:43 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:40 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:38 pm i have no current problem with visor tbh and i think choosing ender over hk is kinda logical anyways

I have seen nothing disagreeable from Visor and he's far and away my top town.

From someone who normally tunnels me D1 unless I push someone hard this is surprising.

You have pushed outside of consensus towards the same people i have which makes me think you are reading the game from a similar perspective. As the kids say "soul sex".

I think I disagree with this read but can see why Mac thinks this and its towny indicative from Mac to me

You are wolfreading visor?

Yeah, didnt like how I asked them about the Lily/achro wagons they were 'trying' to form and they ignored me and were like repeating the asking for people to join while not addressing me.

To then when EoD is more close the switch to shade Ender when he wasnt telepgraphing their priority or anything, and didnt gave a reason to tr hk to try to oppose that wagon in the slightlest. Doesnt feel real/towny

fwiw he has called hk town a lot and said earlier he found ender underwhelming.

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:47 pm Esooa EoD also sussy btw

good take tbh

not sure if it drags them down all the way to actually suspicious but I didn't like some of their stuff.

also Mac did you answer what made you change your read on me I missed it if so

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:46 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:45 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:43 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:43 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:40 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:38 pm i have no current problem with visor tbh and i think choosing ender over hk is kinda logical anyways

I have seen nothing disagreeable from Visor and he's far and away my top town.

From someone who normally tunnels me D1 unless I push someone hard this is surprising.

big beancat x vulgard vibes from love is war mafia on fol tbh

You're going to have to explain this one.

Half joking but a mafia who always is wrong about vul's alignment was right and vul pushed them for it lol

I'm not always wrong about Visor lol. I've caught him as mafia a couple of times due to lack of mind meld. He's right though that I usually push him. But when he's town I provoke him and he spews reads I love. I haven't had to provoke him here he's just made reads I love.

I swear not every passing comment is meant to be read into, sometimes I just amuse myself.

Visor being sincere here is a new look for him wow.

Okay nevermind I am not ok with policying hk, I won't spit on visor's earnest efforts.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:43 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:43 pm

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:40 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:38 pm i have no current problem with visor tbh and i think choosing ender over hk is kinda logical anyways

I have seen nothing disagreeable from Visor and he's far and away my top town.

From someone who normally tunnels me D1 unless I push someone hard this is surprising.

big beancat x vulgard vibes from love is war mafia on fol tbh

You're going to have to explain this one.

Half joking but a mafia who always is wrong about vul's alignment was right and vul pushed them for it lol

outed wolf wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:42 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:40 pm

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:38 pm i have no current problem with visor tbh and i think choosing ender over hk is kinda logical anyways

I have seen nothing disagreeable from Visor and he's far and away my top town.

From someone who normally tunnels me D1 unless I push someone hard this is surprising.

big beancat x vulgard vibes from love is war mafia on fol tbh

risiinq- wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:40 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:39 pm I won't judge anyone who policies HK tbh.

really? i will if HK flips town.

eh, telling someone to choke on a brick is pretty 'bye now hk' territory.

Everyone has other things to judge them on tbh, no need to make that one decision the sole basis of everything.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:40 pm HK is the choice because think about how toxic this eod has been.

Someone antagonize HK again and he blows up. That's two days of shit fest.

We have 5 miselims. We can use one right now.

4

5th is death.

oops double post

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:38 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:37 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:35 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:34 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:34 pm Achro looks scummy this eod

Sabi one day we will sit down and discuss what confbiased means lol

This isn't helping

Nothing I can do will help tbh. You lost to wolf Achro and now town Achro has to deal with wolf Achro's previous villainy. Which is fine, I can accept it, but my ranges are so that there is going to be nothing this game that is going to make you go "oh silly me, I was wrong." Because I am a good player who is also unwilling to go 'rawr' to prove himself town on demand.

All of these things are fine, I am a tough read, but I won't pretend anything I just said is untrue.

Fwiw I'm not scumreading you anymore.

My read on you is unchanged but also you've been mostly asleep.

What changed your read?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:38 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:37 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:35 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:34 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:34 pm Achro looks scummy this eod

Sabi one day we will sit down and discuss what confbiased means lol

This isn't helping

Nothing I can do will help tbh. You lost to wolf Achro and now town Achro has to deal with wolf Achro's previous villainy. Which is fine, I can accept it, but my ranges are so that there is going to be nothing this game that is going to make you go "oh silly me, I was wrong." Because I am a good player who is also unwilling to go 'rawr' to prove himself town on demand.

All of these things are fine, I am a tough read, but I won't pretend anything I just said is untrue.

Fwiw I'm not scumreading you anymore.

My read on you is unchanged but also you've been mostly asleep.

What changed your read?

I won't judge anyone who policies HK tbh.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:35 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:34 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:34 pm Achro looks scummy this eod

Sabi one day we will sit down and discuss what confbiased means lol

This isn't helping

Nothing I can do will help tbh. You lost to wolf Achro and now town Achro has to deal with wolf Achro's previous villainy. Which is fine, I can accept it, but my ranges are so that there is going to be nothing this game that is going to make you go "oh silly me, I was wrong." Because I am a good player who is also unwilling to go 'rawr' to prove himself town on demand.

All of these things are fine, I am a tough read, but I won't pretend anything I just said is untrue.