The Syndicate

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:05 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:03 pm upon reflection I am also giving Nook a town read.

Town
HK
Wilgy
Nook
Porscha
Esooa

Wolf
Secret Read

6 more life boats available.

Achro are you going to explain your reads or are you going to continue to be an attention whore?

Why haven't you read me?

I have now explained all of my non secret reads.

You have done nothing AI.

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:04 pm What makes you think nook is Villa Achro?

I thought how they responded to my secret read reflecting on our champs game was earnest. I am focusing on just vibe checks today because I have noticed those have been pretty accurate for me lately while when doing analysis I get into my own head so just trying to stick to some basics, latch onto some town tells, and see where that leads me day 1.

upon reflection I am also giving Nook a town read.

Town
HK
Wilgy
Nook
Porscha
Esooa

Wolf
Secret Read

6 more life boats available.

pew pew achro with vibe check reads, pew pew

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:56 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:54 pmEsooa V

you lying chief there's no way you wolf read me for being politely bold and then immediately tr esooa for it within like 5 minutes

Polite? No, I tr'd esooa because of the @ to Mac with wolf emojis for my post. I thought it was a genuine reaction. So V read for Esooa Ibecause am the storm, I do as I please x)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:54 pm the Bills coming out on the road week 1 and flogging the superbowl winners is some statement lol

I thought this would be a very competitive game but the Bills are just so much better lol.

Esooa V

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:48 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:46 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:45 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:43 pm I will throw Porscha in my town for day 1 pile because I like dumb reads.

Up to 3 I am on fire.

Why?

Hey this is one of the things I have already explained no fair.

So just the 'annoying' quality of speech you pick up?

We can call it 'cares more to be careful with how they talk with others as wolf in my limited experience' if we want to be more polite ;o

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:45 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:43 pm I will throw Porscha in my town for day 1 pile because I like dumb reads.

Up to 3 I am on fire.

Why?

Hey this is one of the things I have already explained no fair.

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:44 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:38 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:36 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:33 pm Also I wonder if Porscha's secret town tell is she is annoying as town and not as a wolf.

If she is town here I will be closer to the truth.

What did Porscha do that was annoying?

I find her word choices grating towards me like I did in the game I was a wolf and in asmr I did not find her grating.

It's not even a big thing but it'd be funny if that's actually true x)

have you considered that this says more about you than it does about me? hm? mr. wolfy wolf? who wants a treat boy?

I did not think to consider this because I found you annoying as wolf and now as town, but it is possible I just dislike strong women and am actually a woman hater x)

I will throw Porscha in my town for day 1 pile because I like dumb reads.

Up to 3 I am on fire.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:36 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:33 pm Also I wonder if Porscha's secret town tell is she is annoying as town and not as a wolf.

If she is town here I will be closer to the truth.

What did Porscha do that was annoying?

I find her word choices grating towards me like I did in the game I was a wolf and in asmr I did not find her grating.

It's not even a big thing but it'd be funny if that's actually true x)

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:34 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:29 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:27 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:22 pm Anyway reads:

DrWilgy V
HK V

Secret Read - W

That's it for now.

what is this secret read bullshit?

I've never understood this one. If you have a secret read just don't list it and let the game progress. Needless characters on a page otherwise.

For further details and understanding google 'wilgy dumb'

Because reactions to games can be useful and a part of playing the greater game.

Genuinely curious as to what AI information you'd get out of this.

Like a falsified read, I'd get.

A claim on how one should play, I'd get.

Even voting to get a reaction I'd get.

How does 'I got a secret' generate proper reaction data that is AI? Hell even my response right now towards it I don't think exists anywhere near AI.

Sure.

Ahem.

So my mafia philosophy in general in terms of generating content is that the more content there is that town can know the origin point of the easier it will be to force wolves into situations where they don't know how to react and do something that isn't genuine in order to try to appear genuine. This process and thinking can be tracked down and exploited by town looking for it. If you keep putting even skilled wolves in odd situations eventually they will do something that is AI, even if you don't first succeed. So any one play in day one of a game isn't likely to net a wolf by itself, but it sets up the next and the next. I have an offensive style of wolf and town hunting where I go looking for it more often than not, and so I put the onus on me to create scenarios that can make these things happen. How often I do this depends on my mood and my desire to be impactful.

Being coy is an example of me doing this. Not everything is a simple A/B test.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:33 pm Why is achro ignoring me? Why won't he answer what the mindmeld is?

If I wanted to say I would have said!

Also I wonder if Porscha's secret town tell is she is annoying as town and not as a wolf.

If she is town here I will be closer to the truth.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:31 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:26 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:24 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:22 pm Anyway reads:

DrWilgy V
HK V

Secret Read - W

That's it for now.

Explain those reads

HK is trying to engage me directly, I like this.

Wilgy is mindmelding me.

I refuse. You are actually mindmelding me.

technically I thought it first but you decided to post it first so I can give this to you x)

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:30 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:29 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:27 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:22 pm Anyway reads:

DrWilgy V
HK V

Secret Read - W

That's it for now.

what is this secret read bullshit?

I've never understood this one. If you have a secret read just don't list it and let the game progress. Needless characters on a page otherwise.

For further details and understanding google 'wilgy dumb'

achro wants to pretend like he has a kooky wolf read but won't share cuz something something about nook telling him to shut up about his thoughts every once in a while to see what happens

Hes snarking at me cause I disparaged him for sharing/soft pushing a tinfoil read on a towncore that mightve gotten NKed in our last game

I was right tho

People constantly misread me, it isn't snark so much as trying out a new idea for fun.

I don't think I am as snarky as people might think.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:27 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:22 pm Anyway reads:

DrWilgy V
HK V

Secret Read - W

That's it for now.

what is this secret read bullshit?

I've never understood this one. If you have a secret read just don't list it and let the game progress. Needless characters on a page otherwise.

For further details and understanding google 'wilgy dumb'

Because reactions to games can be useful and a part of playing the greater game.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:24 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:22 pm Anyway reads:

DrWilgy V
HK V

Secret Read - W

That's it for now.

Explain those reads

HK is trying to engage me directly, I like this.

Wilgy is mindmelding me.

Anyway reads:

DrWilgy V
HK V

Secret Read - W

That's it for now.

I am very interested to hear what HK has to say about my wolf game that he is very familiar with.

I have a wolf read.

I will not be disclosing it though as Nook taught me to PLAY MY CARDS CLOSE TO MY VEST.

I feel like the word trying there is doing a lot of lifting.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:19 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:18 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:16 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:12 pm Why does everyone always go for stiff when describing me x)

I am trying to figure out how to be an effective town player on my new medication. 100% energy is TOO MUCH and I over think. So I am testing out my heart of the cards levels here to see what fine tuning I need to do.

Imagine being used to brain fog for 5 years and being still a pretty great mafia player, and then suddenly 0 brain fog. It's like constant racing thoughts x)

I dunno, we have played a handful of games. First time I have seen you stiff.

But yea I will give you space. It was just something I noticed.

Congrats on the meds working! Always a good feeling.

I don't require space or anything, I am just trying to re-find myself as a player to get back to the levels I am satisfied with.

Adjustments are a part of life ;o

Fair enough.

I got my eyes on you.

As an attention whore this pleases me tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:17 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:16 pm my plan in this game is to see what sabi's reads are and then invert them in order to solve the game

Giving them the seth treatment, harsh

Seth just solved a game over in fol to which our wolf team said 'that's nice' and town completely ignored him lol

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:16 pm

Achromatic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:12 pm Why does everyone always go for stiff when describing me x)

I am trying to figure out how to be an effective town player on my new medication. 100% energy is TOO MUCH and I over think. So I am testing out my heart of the cards levels here to see what fine tuning I need to do.

Imagine being used to brain fog for 5 years and being still a pretty great mafia player, and then suddenly 0 brain fog. It's like constant racing thoughts x)

I dunno, we have played a handful of games. First time I have seen you stiff.

But yea I will give you space. It was just something I noticed.

Congrats on the meds working! Always a good feeling.

I don't require space or anything, I am just trying to re-find myself as a player to get back to the levels I am satisfied with.

Adjustments are a part of life ;o

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:14 pm hi hi!

im going to predict the mafia team day 1

nanook / esooa / achromatic

be in awe when im right

Do I know you by some other name?

Why does everyone always go for stiff when describing me x)

I am trying to figure out how to be an effective town player on my new medication. 100% energy is TOO MUCH and I over think. So I am testing out my heart of the cards levels here to see what fine tuning I need to do.

Imagine being used to brain fog for 5 years and being still a pretty great mafia player, and then suddenly 0 brain fog. It's like constant racing thoughts x)

Yes, Nanook is King now that counts.

Voting Neon.

I was really hoping to nominate Mac, post like 10-15 times today, and find out we lynched scum in 48 hours.

Already putting a cramp in my plans.

Okay Mac has passed for King, who wants to be King instead.

I nominate Mac for King/Mayor/whatever. This is a "My town game isn't up to my usual standards and trying harder isn't going to fix it" game, so I am going back into my bag of tricks.