Nah I am talking macro mafia balance not this one to be clear. Jjj knows I am coming from a not this game perspective.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:42 pmIdk, from my pov, both mafia were in a PoE of ~3 or 4 from day 1. I don't think that's set up.Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:11 pm probably too town sided although fun tbh
double chops are extremely powerful for information.
Also, the double kill became anti-town the moment Seanzie and Mac went at it.
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- Tue Aug 23, 2022 11:06 pm
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- Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:11 pm
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probably too town sided although fun tbh
double chops are extremely powerful for information.
double chops are extremely powerful for information.
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 7:05 pm
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GG town.
Notes:
Day 1 EOD was not planned coordination, falcon was just the only town there lol
Day 2 EOD was not planned in any way, I was truthful that I would never have condoned that. I tried to keep a brave face after that, but it put a damper on me.
Other than that, not my best performance but at least I was a little more spirited day 3 compared to whatever I was doing day 1. Thank you for playing with me.
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Day 1 EOD was not planned coordination, falcon was just the only town there lol
Day 2 EOD was not planned in any way, I was truthful that I would never have condoned that. I tried to keep a brave face after that, but it put a damper on me.
Other than that, not my best performance but at least I was a little more spirited day 3 compared to whatever I was doing day 1. Thank you for playing with me.
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:59 pm
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thats not rand at all
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:50 pm
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Or just turbo falcon and shrug at suboptimal town play that's also fine x)
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:49 pm
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if you are in f3 with one of these, keep this in mind along with wifom etc. You should have an extra later of 'hrm' with your inclinations posted today if you are chosen to survive to f3. Don't be reactionary, but at the same time be more skeptical than you were today x(Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:42 pm Hm. Not completely sure.
If it's you it's simple as porscha/you/wilgy as wilgy has sus'd porscha and defended you
But if it is mac I expect the final 3 to be porscha/you/mac since wilgy thinks you are fine
if it is porscha I expect the same final 3
and if it is wilgy I expect porscha/you/wilgy since mac is just the best player available and also has shown growing annoyance to wilgy's game
I would have to weigh heavily my options at final 3 myself, but I will say wilgy trying to defend me today comes off as uber unpredatory and needless as wolf
mac would be tinfoil but he's also THAT guy.
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:44 pm
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I'm capable, falcon is my most likely solve as well so it's not the worst thing. Trying to become less sensitive to mislynchings so it's fine lol.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:43 pm But no... that's for someone else in f3.
We have to solve between Achro and Falcon. And I'm going with Achro for a few reasons. Dead town sheep. TMI. But mostly because if Achro doesn't die here and I get killed I'm not confident he makes f3 very hard for whoever is there. I think town has a better chance to win an f3 without him in it. That's not me saying you'd vote bad btw achro I think you just win the game as mafia in f3.
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:42 pm
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terrible and townie though tbhMacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:41 pm Wilgy voting Porscha and leaving without assessing whether Porscha was even viable or anything is the height of terrible btw. I almost just wanna kill him for his terrible play here. All he's being cleared for is wifom.
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:42 pm
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Hm. Not completely sure.
If it's you it's simple as porscha/you/wilgy as wilgy has sus'd porscha and defended you
But if it is mac I expect the final 3 to be porscha/you/mac since wilgy thinks you are fine
if it is porscha I expect the same final 3
and if it is wilgy I expect porscha/you/wilgy since mac is just the best player available and also has shown growing annoyance to wilgy's game
I would have to weigh heavily my options at final 3 myself, but I will say wilgy trying to defend me today comes off as uber unpredatory and needless as wolf
mac would be tinfoil but he's also THAT guy.
If it's you it's simple as porscha/you/wilgy as wilgy has sus'd porscha and defended you
But if it is mac I expect the final 3 to be porscha/you/mac since wilgy thinks you are fine
if it is porscha I expect the same final 3
and if it is wilgy I expect porscha/you/wilgy since mac is just the best player available and also has shown growing annoyance to wilgy's game
I would have to weigh heavily my options at final 3 myself, but I will say wilgy trying to defend me today comes off as uber unpredatory and needless as wolf
mac would be tinfoil but he's also THAT guy.
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:29 pm
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I am playing past today, falcon. It's a thing. I currently think you are scum but also if it is in f3 I am trying to give you good advice if you aren't.
Is this just a thing I do? See into multiple worlds and try to play optimally for both? Am I just weird? x(
Is this just a thing I do? See into multiple worlds and try to play optimally for both? Am I just weird? x(
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:28 pm
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There's basically two worlds I am living in right now, falcon. Porscha has signaled she will vote for me and I am dead
Either you are scum and hooray
Or you are town and f3 is probably going to end in a loss because you aren't providing anything to really dig into.
I don't think you posting more is going to suddenly make you obv town if you are a wolf, but in the world you are town it could help people see you as townier.
Either you are scum and hooray
Or you are town and f3 is probably going to end in a loss because you aren't providing anything to really dig into.
I don't think you posting more is going to suddenly make you obv town if you are a wolf, but in the world you are town it could help people see you as townier.
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:25 pm
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jesus christ I hope he's scum
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:23 pm
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like right now this game is heading towards achro -> turbo falcon
this is either good or bad for town
but bad for you either way
so
try to like say things? lol
this is either good or bad for town
but bad for you either way
so
try to like say things? lol
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:22 pm
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well if you aren't it and I am going over today yes. Any solving you can do will help in f3. Like, you are kind of meat atm in f3 and if it is someone who isnt obvious you need to like, show your work.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:21 pmAre you trying to help me find more town?Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:15 pmYou think its mac if not me? Do his mountain of sabi interactions not sway you? ;ofalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:13 pmMy POE has more than just you inside it, and I've said as much.Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:22 pm @MacDougall @Porscha you around? Day ends in like 40 minutes
@falcon45ca you too. Still think it's just me?
I mean, it's not like there's been a lot of movement in your sus of my slot since I voted you, right?
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:21 pm
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...MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:20 pm I'm going to vote achro here very begrudgingly just because I don't want to deal with him in f3. Sorry if wrong achro.
I can't think of anything appropriate to say and I have been staring at my lap for 30 seconds, so ok.
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:15 pm
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You think its mac if not me? Do his mountain of sabi interactions not sway you? ;ofalcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 6:13 pmMy POE has more than just you inside it, and I've said as much.Achromatic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:22 pm @MacDougall @Porscha you around? Day ends in like 40 minutes
@falcon45ca you too. Still think it's just me?
I mean, it's not like there's been a lot of movement in your sus of my slot since I voted you, right?
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:37 pm
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Also @Porscha any thoughts on the sabi quotes wilgy pulled up about me?
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:31 pm
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- Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:30 pm
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Oh, I thought this started the same time as day 1. My bad.
Hello Porscha. Got any questions for me? ;o
Hello Porscha. Got any questions for me? ;o
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:22 pm
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@MacDougall @Porscha you around? Day ends in like 40 minutes
@falcon45ca you too. Still think it's just me?
@falcon45ca you too. Still think it's just me?
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:15 pm
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oh I thought my sentence got deleted but it got transported on top of the quotes. lol
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:14 pm
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These series of interactions feel like Porscha is trying to solve sabi tbh
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:57 pmI think his posts implicitly has enough ego and idk.............................. I don't think he feels too sheep considering his IRL stuff going on
but if it's achro/mac power wolf power couple, then consider me entertained
These feel uninformed of Sabi's alignment and genuinely trying to help them solve the game tbh @DrWilgy
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 4:08 pm
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I had a last minute sabi vote? ;o
- Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:37 am
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I would have to consider 3 very big tinfoils today over "oh, it's just falcon okay."
If it isn't falcon I'd be looking at isos with a much more critical eye than I want to right now because my brain has a filter of 'it's probably just falcon' which makes it really difficult for me to be as critical as I need to be.
If I tinfoil all day I'll just get a headache tbh.
If Falcon is town I don't think there is any shot he survives any F3 combination tbh. He has shown no progression at all in solving, and has very little going for him. I don't know if I could convince the other town at that point but I could try.
@MacDougall I did ask for previous scum experience for a reason though because I had in mind the one path you could be scum despite thinking it's 'probably' nothing in terms of equity in my mind. Day 1 I tunneled lucy and I thought you had good interactions with her if she was wolf and I opened today with a vague memory of you being suspicious before you did slam poetry jam of quotes where it turned it into "okay so this would be tinfoil mac is pro gaming" levels of theater, which you are capable of but more likely it's, as said above, just falcon lol
If it isn't falcon I'd be looking at isos with a much more critical eye than I want to right now because my brain has a filter of 'it's probably just falcon' which makes it really difficult for me to be as critical as I need to be.
If I tinfoil all day I'll just get a headache tbh.
If Falcon is town I don't think there is any shot he survives any F3 combination tbh. He has shown no progression at all in solving, and has very little going for him. I don't know if I could convince the other town at that point but I could try.
@MacDougall I did ask for previous scum experience for a reason though because I had in mind the one path you could be scum despite thinking it's 'probably' nothing in terms of equity in my mind. Day 1 I tunneled lucy and I thought you had good interactions with her if she was wolf and I opened today with a vague memory of you being suspicious before you did slam poetry jam of quotes where it turned it into "okay so this would be tinfoil mac is pro gaming" levels of theater, which you are capable of but more likely it's, as said above, just falcon lol
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:33 pm
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(I would have preferred to have posts handy to ask both wilgy and falcon these questions you see)
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:32 pm
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Point out a few posts that has uncharacteristic solve energy for her?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:30 pmPorscha's solve energy, and the direct contrast to her scum game I just played with herAchromatic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:01 pmWhat about porscha specifically is making her town to you?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:11 pmArcho, WilgyPorscha wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:52 pmwhat's your solve right nowfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:06 pmFixedfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:05 pmWell, he had Wilgy and I as TR earlier, and there's only 5 players, which means necessarily Mac was his tinfoil yesterday. I guess in this universe. The very one we live in right now.
I am having trouble seeing you as Maf here, and Mac has done some towny stuff as of late IMO
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:31 pm
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Real talk I was going to use your contributions to ask wilgy and falcon questions about you to check their perspective because I am not at my computer rest of day and it is hard to iso. It wasn't really about you x(Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:24 pm"you'll feel bad for not doing what I asked you to if we lose" is an appeal to emotion imo and while I don't really care that you used it, I do pretty much believe you're better off using your solving somewhere else unless there is something you saw that really makes you second guess my alignment. in which case please let me know. but up until now you have not called me anything other than townAchromatic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:00 pm Appeal to Emotion there would be 'you will be sorry you lynched me!' As an example.
Mac didn't think he was above showing how obv town he was but I guess expecting you to find some post is beyond you. Lol. Speaks more about you than me as a player but pop off.
I didn't want to give that away as falcon and wilgy content is at a premium lol
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:01 pm
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What about porscha specifically is making her town to you?falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:11 pmArcho, WilgyPorscha wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:52 pmwhat's your solve right nowfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:06 pmFixedfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:05 pmWell, he had Wilgy and I as TR earlier, and there's only 5 players, which means necessarily Mac was his tinfoil yesterday. I guess in this universe. The very one we live in right now.Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:46 pmFalcon there are 5 people and like at any given moment at least 2 people, if not 3, are not in a players POE. Like in what universe does achro tinfoil me and mac over you and wilgy rnfalcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:01 amInteresting. Wilgy & I went from TR's to your only SRs. Rather quicklyAchromatic wrote: ↑Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:38 pm Your day 1 talks about Sabi are pretty sus, and atp I have various degrees of reasons to like everyone else.
I think team of sabi/falcon day 1 let's me die
Porscha is coming off completely different from their last scum game
Wilgy felt super genuine reacting to the quickness of the hammer
I am having trouble seeing you as Maf here, and Mac has done some towny stuff as of late IMO
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:00 pm
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Appeal to Emotion there would be 'you will be sorry you lynched me!' As an example.
Mac didn't think he was above showing how obv town he was but I guess expecting you to find some post is beyond you. Lol. Speaks more about you than me as a player but pop off.
Mac didn't think he was above showing how obv town he was but I guess expecting you to find some post is beyond you. Lol. Speaks more about you than me as a player but pop off.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:56 pm
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Appeal to Emotion is is a fallacy employed in a logical argument. If you are going to use the term try to have the dignity to use it correctly and maybe be a bit less pompous and grating ms above it all.
But alright.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 4:58 pm
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Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:43 pmNow why would you ask me to do unnecessary work when I always just so sleepyAchromatic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:28 am @Porscha
Can you go through your ISO and pick out some interactions you personally feel town clear you?
@DrWilgy
Same thing for you please. What are the moments of this game that go 'Yeah, if people lynch me after seeing THIS they are out of their minds."
I'm not gonna look right now tbh even tho it's a good exercise for me but I'm laying in bed soooo idk just think back on how I was accidentally so townie Lucy's scumdar gave me the middle finger
Because while I dont think it is you it is healthy for just in case reasons that everyone alive now be here to judge your efforts in case my solve is wrong in falcon or you guys lynch me.
Also while I appreciate a good 'I don't wanna nyah' if we lose this game because of it you arw going to feel bad.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:07 am
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I thought Mac was sus and then Mac went and showed me more unaligned posts with sabi than you have posts total this game with solving of any form.
Sorry not sorry for re evaluating.
Sorry not sorry for re evaluating.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:10 am
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Yes, obviously.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:09 am Lol it's not the same cuz it's day 3 in a tiny mountainous game. Lylo was day 6 there.
Also I was just basking in my own glory like a douchebag.
To both sentences.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:07 am
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"Kill me before LYLO I am too dangerous"MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:03 amLol I'm such an asshole.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 15, 2018 8:51 pmI dunno bout that man. You were easy for us to push as a bad guy and it is very necessary for bad guys to have civs like that to point at that look more bad than you do.
Civs just gotta be more civ tbh.
So my intention was to win this game with both Epignosis and Jay at the end game just to see if we could. Sadly Epignosis was killed by a civ vig. The methodology I personally used this game was relatively simple. I just buddied Jay and pointed out all the bad civ play that I could and dismissed bad civ case making (even when the bad civ case making was accurate, like when I defended Wolbre). DDL and I did some very soft distancing. The main reason the civs lost this game is because:
1. Failure to lynch one of us quick enough to utilise a scum flip for clues (though it's arguable it would have helped as we didn't look very team compatible anyway).
2. Epignosis and Jay were too preoccupied in the early game with their endless dick swinging match to actually use their skills to find actual bad guys. Even my presence wasn't enough to get them to turn their eye at me instead of each other.
3. You didn't policy lynch me or vig me. Which if I was not me, I would have done on the day that Dom got lynched. I really shouldn't be left around until end game. There are certain players that should be dealt with as though they are too dangerous as scum to leave alone even if they look civ and the meta here doesn't deal with us ruthlessly enough. I am not suggesting day 1 policy lynch but if the decision is between taking a wild stab in the dark that a complete lurker like Dom or Pennywise is bad or taking a shot at Jay or myself, we are the better lynch every time. Civs have and will continue to win many games when us forceful types are removed in the early game, but if you leave us alive until the late game and we are Mafia it's foolishness.
4. Nobody ever really tried to read DDL until it was too late and when they did (Nova), we just silenced him on the critical day.
5. Too many civs disappeared entirely. Jay was right that the game was over days ago.
Every silence was actually thought through and made sense in the context of the day. Believing it to be the results of a random firing helped us immensely. I would not use that game mechanic in the future because it's really quite a nice way for scum to wifom the fuck out of useless night actions.
As for the sig kill. I chose to kill sig because I think he is a good player. He reads the game with his instinct rather than cold calculations and I cannot account for that. I would choose to go up against Jay over sig every time. Sig is a dangerous vig and he tinfoils at the drop of a hat. He makes unpredictable reads that are very often accurate. He gets mislynched so often because he plays the civ game with a reckless abandon that I think makes him a great civ. He was the most likely player in this game to remove me personally from it so he died.
Yet, does not roll over instantly here.
CURIOUS.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 9:02 am
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So scum meta this game, got it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:57 am I've played many games with Falcon. I am generally a good reader of Falcon as per his comment that you quoted.
He didn't contribute much at all. He is capable of some good shit but very rarely does much as either alignment these days. He usually just can be read by whether he's making shit up or actually believes what he's saying lol.
Okay so here's the plan.
We vote Falcon today, we win, and then in post game you brag that I only wasn't mislynched a second time in two games on here because you woke me the fuck up and if it wasn't for the hand of mac, the Mafia God, Achromatic would be nothing and I should praise you or whatever cool thing we do after a win on this place.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:47 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]
I am seeing all green names on the dead did you actually literally sweep lolMacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:42 am https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=1584
This is probs my favourite scum win but it wasn't a solo endgame. We mostly swept. I did powerwolf to a degree where I was largely able to snow Jay though which is the real reason I'm posting this.
Also since you have wolved with falcon I assume you have played a town game with him? Is their solving usually non existent as town? Are they polarized? I know hydra is a bit different than partnered wolfing but did he contribute?
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:42 am
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Anyway the Mac tinfoil case is clear even if it is tinfoil as I alluded to above: Partner interactions are actually unironically the easiest thing in the world to fake for a skilled mafia member. At first I thought this was completely invalid because 'why does sabi self vote there before mac can just come shield them' but then I also remembered that Sabi will do what Sabi wants.
But if this is the case then it probably invalidates itself simply because I believe Sabi whining about both their day 2 wagon and their day 1 wagon indicates both are pure.
Also I have not played a good enough game to fight this dragon so I will take the blame if Mac eats us here.
But if this is the case then it probably invalidates itself simply because I believe Sabi whining about both their day 2 wagon and their day 1 wagon indicates both are pure.
Also I have not played a good enough game to fight this dragon so I will take the blame if Mac eats us here.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:30 am
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@MacDougall
Hey, can you find me a really famous scum win by you on here if you wouldn't mind? Like, one where you were say town cleared based off of interactions with your wolf partners day 1 and then used that as a club to dominate a town by leading the conversation through charisma and force of will all the while doing very cool and pro town things like "don't hammer anyone!"
If any of those things exist.
Thank you.
Hey, can you find me a really famous scum win by you on here if you wouldn't mind? Like, one where you were say town cleared based off of interactions with your wolf partners day 1 and then used that as a club to dominate a town by leading the conversation through charisma and force of will all the while doing very cool and pro town things like "don't hammer anyone!"
If any of those things exist.
Thank you.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:28 am
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@Porscha
Can you go through your ISO and pick out some interactions you personally feel town clear you?
@DrWilgy
Same thing for you please. What are the moments of this game that go 'Yeah, if people lynch me after seeing THIS they are out of their minds."
Can you go through your ISO and pick out some interactions you personally feel town clear you?
@DrWilgy
Same thing for you please. What are the moments of this game that go 'Yeah, if people lynch me after seeing THIS they are out of their minds."
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:24 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:34 amYou're typically much better at reading me, the NKs make sense from you, and pushing my lynch for a hammer this RD? I'm an easy mislynch, as you know
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:41 amI think I recall a post of yours earlier about just yeeting me this RD and getting it over with, but perhaps I'm mistaken.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:38 amHow do the NKs make sense from me? Both of them were townreading me. NAA specifically said he was gonna take me to f3. I was Alison's top town.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:34 amYou're typically much better at reading me, the NKs make sense from you, and pushing my lynch for a hammer this RD? I'm an easy mislynch, as you know
Also no I haven't, I've been blocking the hammer.
Maf kill town who TR them all the time, and Alison given enough time certainly is a threat to Maf Mac.
Why is my sus of your slot so implausible?
Hi @falcon45ca so in your suspicion of Mac you said the NKs make sense for him. But under the clever solving technique of "sometimes wolves kill people who TR them" then don't all kills fit Mac? So any kill, using your logic, would fit Mac. Or Me. Or... you. Correct? If they suspect Mac, it fits. But also if they don't suspect Mac, it equally Fits.
Please walk me through how you expect to find wolves with this solving process, thank you.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:20 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]
Also I had four posts day 2 and one sentence devoted to Falcon which was basically "I thought Sabi was worse than Falcon EOD1" just dressed up in my usual performative fancy talk of calling him a good lad. This made him go from feeling good about me to apparently being totally okay with torpedoing me today.
After day 1 where at EOD1 I pointed out that Falcon was on me all day without asking me any questions then when called out on this he decided to sheep me and now here we are again, with a flimsy excuse to vote for me and then he smoke bombs away
Falcon, can you cite some town games of yours where voting for someone all day with 0 attempts to interact or solve them not initiated by the person has netted you scum?
After day 1 where at EOD1 I pointed out that Falcon was on me all day without asking me any questions then when called out on this he decided to sheep me and now here we are again, with a flimsy excuse to vote for me and then he smoke bombs away
Falcon, can you cite some town games of yours where voting for someone all day with 0 attempts to interact or solve them not initiated by the person has netted you scum?
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:13 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]
Thank you for demanding more from me btw, that is how mafia should be played. Sorry I am not at the peak of my powers this game. You didn't do anything wrong, not that you need me to tell you this.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:12 am Aight well I don't want any hammers til I hear in depth from Wilgy and Falcon.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:07 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]
Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:06 amNAA is town
Porscha is town
Mac is town
Achromatic is town
Falcon is ???
Wilgy is ???
Also should slot seanzie in there at the top but whatever
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:06 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]
NAA is town
Porscha is town
Mac is town
Achromatic is town
Falcon is ???
Wilgy is ???
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:05 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]
Achromatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 20, 2022 7:54 pm [VOTE: sabi] aubergine
Falcon was a good lad and helped me out. Find it hard to believe sabi actually sheeped mac who does that tbh.
This, by the way. Good vote. I have a light tone but a clear thinking process here. Sabi and you were like oil and water in ASMR. I read back and was like 'well that makes no sense' and placed a vote. Probably the best vote on Sabi day 2 tbh
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:01 am
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Anyway Achro is a sad boy but Achro is still a smart boy.
So anyway you have your story, here's mine with Sabi: They are too emotional and it is going to win town the game.
Day 1 they whined about being voted. The votes were you, seanzie, and me
Day 2 they ... super whined about being voted, let's say. The votes were Porscha, NAA, and me
Sabi didn't have a master plan, Sabi didn't have Wolf Achro for council, Sabi didn't self vote to plot an evil scheme to take over the world.
Sabi got frustrated that town was voting for them and Sabi got upset.
Reminds me of Hectic from my champs game this year with a post that honestly I should have buried him for day 1 instead of day 2. I would have been in a nice semifinal if I had done that tbh.
So anyway you have your story, here's mine with Sabi: They are too emotional and it is going to win town the game.
Day 1 they whined about being voted. The votes were you, seanzie, and me
Day 2 they ... super whined about being voted, let's say. The votes were Porscha, NAA, and me
Sabi didn't have a master plan, Sabi didn't have Wolf Achro for council, Sabi didn't self vote to plot an evil scheme to take over the world.
Sabi got frustrated that town was voting for them and Sabi got upset.
Reminds me of Hectic from my champs game this year with a post that honestly I should have buried him for day 1 instead of day 2. I would have been in a nice semifinal if I had done that tbh.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:55 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]
this was a mental typo, I meant my own day 1 iso and my read I mean remember x)Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:54 am Sure let me see my iso, maybe the day 1 I didn't read has something cool for me.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:54 am
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Sure let me see my iso, maybe the day 1 I didn't read has something cool for me.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:52 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]
It's more than one sadly, two mislynches in about a week when I hadn't been mislynched in many years so I'm a little more dead inside right now. I'm here too man. I can't live up to whatever expectation you have right now, I can just do my best to solve. I like my vote. I started the game exhausted, I was ready to play day 2, and now I am here and it's just like day 1 is a fog and day 2 didn't happen and I am just like okay I am here what the fuck happened to this game in my head, you know?
It's like... ergh you know? Sorry this isn't doing it for you, really. I am doing my best right now and it isn't my best work but I've given my reads.
It's like... ergh you know? Sorry this isn't doing it for you, really. I am doing my best right now and it isn't my best work but I've given my reads.
- Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:49 am
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Re: Mountainous Two-Kill Tenner #2 - States in the US [DAY 3]
There's nothing to bury. There's almost nothing there. It's PoE. You and Porscha are great. They aren't. Not every game is about burying the wolf sometimes its about finding the town, and I found the two town I need to find and honestly wilgy is probably fine too.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:47 amI already pointed out how you and Sabi both manipulated Falcon into voting Seanzie/Lucy. That's heaps in his favour.Achromatic wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:43 amSorry that I don't know which one of 'did nothing' and 'did nothing but also has theater' is the obvious wolf let me go back to mafia school with Mac who will teach me the expert reads. Neither has any meaningful Sabi interaction in their favor. I like my vote because wilgy defended me a little today and did theater but it ain't much.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:42 am No you bury the wolf here you don't take the fact that there are two other viable names and use it as a basis for trying to get yourself out of the POE. Bad Achro.
That sorry was sarcastic to be clear x)
I just can't reconcile you as town when you react to a request to bury the wolf with this trash. Like you don't have any skill or tactics to interrogate and figure it out from this point forward. They are here. Talk to them. Figure out which one is the wolf. Why do I need to tell you how to be town?
Sorry this isn't exciting.