The Syndicate

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:47 pm I can switch to vivax. Though I feel like part of me would be doing that out of spite ever since he called me inauthetic and that, well, from the time I've been here it feels like I've been the only case he has ever really had.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:43 pm Oh Scotty isnt dying thats good. His role is confirmed to me even before he fires it. Because of the hunger mechanic

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:32 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:30 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:29 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:10 pm [VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

Not gonna say no to my main preference but just...Why not earlier ?

Who was lead wagon before this vote?

I believe scotty as me and wilgy were on it, then he randomly went to martin who I think used a scummy angle to TR tutuu

i was on it, too. I moved mainly becasue he's AFK and apparently had a bad connection when he was here. Getting yeeted when you're not around sucks.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:29 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:10 pm [VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

Not gonna say no to my main preference but just...Why not earlier ?

Who was lead wagon before this vote?

die_meatbaby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:24 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:23 am

die_meatbaby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:28 am Sorry I was working long yesterday and didn't had any energy to write here. Also that I am just writing on the phone because I can't log in on my fucking PC and this piss me of. My Screen on the Phone is ripped and so it takes fucking nervs do write with this thing
@tutuu
I played 2 games before and never did somebody have a ego like yours and annoyed me this fucking much. You literally just piss me of with no fucking reason.... I sorry that I didn't have time to spam the thread with bs like you.

Welcome to The Syndicate. Would you mind getting an avatar when you get a chance? It helps me associate your posts together better when it isn't the generic question mark.

Did it. Still easy to remeber my posts, because my english sucks, especially in writing. So when ever there are stupid grammar or spelling mistakes it´s me.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:15 pm Oh Vivax also peeled away.

Wilgy and Vivax are on the bottom of my POE so that tracks

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:04 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:01 pm Maybe there‘s a mafia traitor/recruitable member mechanic cause that‘s where I‘d place JJJ probably.

Maybe I‘m biased but they vibe strongly like deliberate antagonism in places.

I have no desire to antagonize. I've even tried to keep the thread peaceful within reason. I may have antagonized you just by way of suspicion, as I don't really follow your process. I'm always listening though and encourage you to respond to my gripes and/or continue your own hunt as you see fit.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 8:50 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:08 pm Townread:
Scotty
Tutuu
JJJ

Townlean:
Zenon
Martin

[VOTE: Die Meat baby] aubergine

I should probably be colored forest green here.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:07 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:46 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:58 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:56 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:35 pm Can't we kill Porscha? Last time Porscha was mafia i gut scumread her. This time time I'm also gut scumreading her. 2/2 maybe???

Porscha is town so like maybe push a scum

Maybe u can teach me a thing or two about scumhunting id be happy to learn from u!

I am not a scum hunter I am a town hunter by trade so like no. But also Sean and Porscha are obv town and 2 of your very hard early pushes so like *shrugs*

Why am I obvtown? I feel like I've had a hard time getting into the game thus far.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:36 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:35 pm Can't we kill Porscha? Last time Porscha was mafia i gut scumread her. This time time I'm also gut scumreading her. 2/2 maybe???

Hold on, Rondo caught JJJ

*holds up mic to @RondoDimBuckle *

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:54 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:47 am

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:37 am

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Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:28 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:03 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:17 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:09 am Die_meatball, please be mindful of Rule 4, if you are serious in tone and replies.

If it’s not or a defensive thing or an injoke thing, please clarify.

To jump to her defense a little bit, she´s the impulsive type and likes to post in hyperbole but I hope nobody takes it personally as she needs to build a more nuanced mafia persona which requires practice so she´s going to exhibit that ´wooden mallet to close targets´ posting style for a while, probably.

I believe that post tone = exacerbated yelling directed at tutuu is a strong town point nontheless.

ur friend thinks people will respect her and take her seriously after she calls them annoying, egotistical and stupid?

She‘s my other half and the emotional type with a temper. Making the best of it means for me to acknowledge her as town for the brutal honesty so having her tone down the demeanors should suffice and if not we can policy her if you so wish but I‘d rather hit scum.

I need to review SVS in the meantime.

Thank You for this. I knew you were friends with DMB since I spoke to you about it when she came on board. And I had not ISOed you, but noted that when I saw a post of yours, there was no mention of her, and I was looking for your opinion, and tbh, wondering why, but didn't want to call attention to a thing which happened out of game.

Now i have to go read her brutal honesty, since I Have been picking posts rather than reading linerally since last night, and i don't recall much from her.

If you allude to tutuus mentioning of discord stuff, I took it in but am not going to use it in my process.

I think I‘ve been very concise in using in-thread information exclusively.

The scumread on Scotty makes me giddy, he‘s quite the tornado so if he‘s scum catching him is one thing but I don‘t know if he could be buried in that case.

I like to keep him at null and contemplate if he‘s scum and bussing you. But I think I‘m good with my current vote, anyways.

No I allude to you and i PMing when DMB joined the site over her not being able to access certain features. And I have not made a case on Scotty? I am not really sure what I think of him yet.

He's saying the usual paranoid things he says to me, but he does not feel particularly sincere to me. I don't know if I believe him with all of his little jabs. I voted him as kind of a joke, since he was poking me about not liking to OMGUS, and there ius no "Unvote" in this thread. It's not a sincere vote and I thought i was clear about it when I made it.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:37 am

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Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:28 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:03 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:17 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:09 am Die_meatball, please be mindful of Rule 4, if you are serious in tone and replies.

If it’s not or a defensive thing or an injoke thing, please clarify.

To jump to her defense a little bit, she´s the impulsive type and likes to post in hyperbole but I hope nobody takes it personally as she needs to build a more nuanced mafia persona which requires practice so she´s going to exhibit that ´wooden mallet to close targets´ posting style for a while, probably.

I believe that post tone = exacerbated yelling directed at tutuu is a strong town point nontheless.

ur friend thinks people will respect her and take her seriously after she calls them annoying, egotistical and stupid?

She‘s my other half and the emotional type with a temper. Making the best of it means for me to acknowledge her as town for the brutal honesty so having her tone down the demeanors should suffice and if not we can policy her if you so wish but I‘d rather hit scum.

I need to review SVS in the meantime.

Thank You for this. I knew you were friends with DMB since I spoke to you about it when she came on board. And I had not ISOed you, but noted that when I saw a post of yours, there was no mention of her, and I was looking for your opinion, and tbh, wondering why, but didn't want to call attention to a thing which happened out of game.

Now i have to go read her brutal honesty, since I Have been picking posts rather than reading linerally since last night, and i don't recall much from her.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 6:03 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:17 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:09 am Die_meatball, please be mindful of Rule 4, if you are serious in tone and replies.

If it’s not or a defensive thing or an injoke thing, please clarify.

To jump to her defense a little bit, she´s the impulsive type and likes to post in hyperbole but I hope nobody takes it personally as she needs to build a more nuanced mafia persona which requires practice so she´s going to exhibit that ´wooden mallet to close targets´ posting style for a while, probably.

I believe that post tone = exacerbated yelling directed at tutuu is a strong town point nontheless.

ur friend thinks people will respect her and take her seriously after she calls them annoying, egotistical and stupid?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:48 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:35 am [snip by martin]

I´d be interested into your reads on rico, scotty, JJJ. No explanation required.

I´d ask about tutuu too (don´t spell it out loudly) but you think the claim made her town, while I keep in mind that fakeclaiming is possible. That´s what made me think you used an information angle where you knew she was town and threw the read out as a form of appeasement/earning townreads.

No explanation? I mean, that's kinda what my reads-list of sorts was a few hours ago. I grouped people from top to down. Higher up was more town and down lower was more suspect, though the biggest blob was my more-or-less null-equivalents.
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MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:15 am tutuu

JaggedJimmyJay

Vivax
Lime Coke
Scotty
falcon45ca
Ricochet

RondoDimBuckle
Belzy
Creature
DrWilgy
Seanzie
Zenon
Porscha
motobot

S~V~S
die_meatbaby

Something like this? I would say? A lot of it feels like waiting for more to happen from certain people so I'm not sold on this arrangement. But it does bother me since my vote could go onto a person whom I could maybe solve later and I dislike being inefficient like that (unless I get lucky and its on a wolf). Better than letting Tutuu die though.

Looks like I'll have to see if I can be here tomorrow (IRL) more. No promises though since usually my Wednesday evenings are spent with a particular online friend unless they're too busy.

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Anyone who is fake-claiming d1 is knowingly putting a huge risk of being caught in a lie for it. So I immediately disregarded any chance of it. Only time when I've actually seen that happen was when a town did it so they could suicide bomb another player on day 2 (they couldn't do it day 1).

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:30 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:20 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:17 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:04 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:17 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:14 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:09 am

Okay why can't you claim later in the day the numbers are still the same. First wagons rarely go over in mafia games

because if the held perception (that most wagons pass with like 4 or 5 votes) is indeed true, then I don't see why not claim at that point in time

doing it later (like 12 hours before EoD instead of 24) increasingly risks it not having enough effect to cause a decisive shift away from them

there isn't a !town tutuu world where they don't believe in the claim they made, so the reason why they're town necessarily involves it -- especially when if they were wolf it would call for a different action instead of claiming which potentially boxes you in

This post is also worded from a perspective where he assumes all the information he gets is perfect.

If I had to call Martin mafia it´s because he builds his posts from a different vantage point. This one feels like it as well.

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

Either way, if he´s scum his pelt is mine even if I get mischopped.

To expand on this post and cause I like to quote myself in general, talking to myself leads to astounding results occasionally, his entire rationale I bolded in martin´s post reeks heavily informed and I would place the purpose of the post at "appearing right while sacrificing information others don´t have".

Which is something some mafia like to do to appear useful in my experience.

He aims at giving flawless reasoning to keep the heat off but that´s less townie than he thinks it is.

Vivax, why is it that the only thing you truly talk about me that isn't vague

is the preety obvious pretend-TMI slip I set up to see if Zenon would identify it or not

like seriously am I so vaguely inauthentic (your words btw) that the only real distinct evidence you have to support that is me interacting with zenon in a single post?

on the one hand I think there's a decent chance based on your prior reasons that you just don't vibe with me (which can happen between towns) but on the other hand this just rings opportunistic whereas prior you couldn't find solid ground to justify your stance against me

It´s less of a vibing issue than you looking to me like you´re fake contributing with your justification for tutuu´s alignment read revolving around her claim. Opportunism would require me to find townies to attach to and pocket and then imitate their reasoning to vote a popular wagon.

But as it looks like I claim hipster rights to the scumread on you instead of that.

I have yet to get a vibe where you dig into something that makes you think a player is mafia and then pursue that at least for a while, but it looks to me like you´re the imitator. No offense.

My justification (specifically the reasoning regarding the claim) was only provided when I decided to defend Tutuu, and only did so in the interest of potentially solving Zenon (and maybe others who interacted with the TMI assumption). Multiple people have implied or directly said before-then that Tutuu was not going to be the chop for the day, so there was no real towncred in defending Tutuu or re-affirming a consistent read I've had since early into the game. Maybe I would've looked smart, but that intelligence would've held very little impact in people's eyes. It wouldn't have changed the game at all really.

Not everyone figures mafia day 1. Unless you're Macdougall, in which case at some point in the day everyone has been figured as mafia at one point or another.

The only credit I am giving to you about your suspicions of me is that its semi-accurate, in that is generally one of my go-to's as mafia. Most notably whenever I decide to white-knight someone. But Tutuu did not need white-knighting and I wasn't going to gain anything from it. I only engaged in something looking of the sort when Zenon persisted in their suspicion of Tutuu.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:19 am

I AM ANGRY

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:17 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:04 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:17 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:14 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:09 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:04 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:54 am You aren't conformable you are using it on someone in the PoE who could just be your scum bud. Your role is categorically not confirmable to the majority of the player base.

You have used zero compelling arguments to try to pull my vote off you. Your claim was way to early. It feels like a LAMIST attempt to pull votes off yourself with a role claim that isn't heavily town sided.

If your unwilling to use the doc on someone that is not PoEd and heavily town read than your not willing to work with town than you are not confirmable. Not to me.

fwiw Tutuu mentioned most wagons are decided by a few votes (think they said 4) on TS

regardless of the truth of it, the perception there implies it would be a really simple decision for a !wolf Tutuu and their teammates to say they'll pile votes on someone and (probably) get away with it till late game

no claim necessary unless things are going down-hill

Okay why can't you claim later in the day the numbers are still the same. First wagons rarely go over in mafia games

because if the held perception (that most wagons pass with like 4 or 5 votes) is indeed true, then I don't see why not claim at that point in time

doing it later (like 12 hours before EoD instead of 24) increasingly risks it not having enough effect to cause a decisive shift away from them

there isn't a !town tutuu world where they don't believe in the claim they made, so the reason why they're town necessarily involves it -- especially when if they were wolf it would call for a different action instead of claiming which potentially boxes you in

This post is also worded from a perspective where he assumes all the information he gets is perfect.

If I had to call Martin mafia it´s because he builds his posts from a different vantage point. This one feels like it as well.

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

Either way, if he´s scum his pelt is mine even if I get mischopped.

To expand on this post and cause I like to quote myself in general, talking to myself leads to astounding results occasionally, his entire rationale I bolded in martin´s post reeks heavily informed and I would place the purpose of the post at "appearing right while sacrificing information others don´t have".

Which is something some mafia like to do to appear useful in my experience.

He aims at giving flawless reasoning to keep the heat off but that´s less townie than he thinks it is.

Vivax, why is it that the only thing you truly talk about me that isn't vague

is the preety obvious pretend-TMI slip I set up to see if Zenon would identify it or not

like seriously am I so vaguely inauthentic (your words btw) that the only real distinct evidence you have to support that is me interacting with zenon in a single post?

on the one hand I think there's a decent chance based on your prior reasons that you just don't vibe with me (which can happen between towns) but on the other hand this just rings opportunistic whereas prior you couldn't find solid ground to justify your stance against me

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 5:09 am Die_meatball, please be mindful of Rule 4, if you are serious in tone and replies.

If it’s not or a defensive thing or an injoke thing, please clarify.

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:17 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:14 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:09 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:04 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:54 am You aren't conformable you are using it on someone in the PoE who could just be your scum bud. Your role is categorically not confirmable to the majority of the player base.

You have used zero compelling arguments to try to pull my vote off you. Your claim was way to early. It feels like a LAMIST attempt to pull votes off yourself with a role claim that isn't heavily town sided.

If your unwilling to use the doc on someone that is not PoEd and heavily town read than your not willing to work with town than you are not confirmable. Not to me.

fwiw Tutuu mentioned most wagons are decided by a few votes (think they said 4) on TS

regardless of the truth of it, the perception there implies it would be a really simple decision for a !wolf Tutuu and their teammates to say they'll pile votes on someone and (probably) get away with it till late game

no claim necessary unless things are going down-hill

Okay why can't you claim later in the day the numbers are still the same. First wagons rarely go over in mafia games

because if the held perception (that most wagons pass with like 4 or 5 votes) is indeed true, then I don't see why not claim at that point in time

doing it later (like 12 hours before EoD instead of 24) increasingly risks it not having enough effect to cause a decisive shift away from them

there isn't a !town tutuu world where they don't believe in the claim they made, so the reason why they're town necessarily involves it -- especially when if they were wolf it would call for a different action instead of claiming which potentially boxes you in

This post is also worded from a perspective where he assumes all the information he gets is perfect.

If I had to call Martin mafia it´s because he builds his posts from a different vantage point. This one feels like it as well.

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

Either way, if he´s scum his pelt is mine even if I get mischopped.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:14 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:09 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:04 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:54 am You aren't conformable you are using it on someone in the PoE who could just be your scum bud. Your role is categorically not confirmable to the majority of the player base.

You have used zero compelling arguments to try to pull my vote off you. Your claim was way to early. It feels like a LAMIST attempt to pull votes off yourself with a role claim that isn't heavily town sided.

If your unwilling to use the doc on someone that is not PoEd and heavily town read than your not willing to work with town than you are not confirmable. Not to me.

fwiw Tutuu mentioned most wagons are decided by a few votes (think they said 4) on TS

regardless of the truth of it, the perception there implies it would be a really simple decision for a !wolf Tutuu and their teammates to say they'll pile votes on someone and (probably) get away with it till late game

no claim necessary unless things are going down-hill

Okay why can't you claim later in the day the numbers are still the same. First wagons rarely go over in mafia games

because if the held perception (that most wagons pass with like 4 or 5 votes) is indeed true, then I don't see why not claim at that point in time

doing it later (like 12 hours before EoD instead of 24) increasingly risks it not having enough effect to cause a decisive shift away from them

there isn't a !town tutuu world where they don't believe in the claim they made, so the reason why they're town necessarily involves it -- especially when if they were wolf it would call for a different action instead of claiming which potentially boxes you in

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:53 am

Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:50 am Good morning bread

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:47 am Porscha
Sean
Rondo
Zenon


Town ezpz... maybe.

I like it. Rondo‘s re-entry and stubborn push on JJJ made me town him. Looked like an against the train endeavour I wouldn‘t place as maf.

Martin on the other hand keeps giving me the feeling that his posts lack authenticity.

Tutuu is a little dust devil that could be anything. Initially I thought town for being very informative but that fell off with me being unable to follow their voting logic. I‘m also not sure if they tried to pocket me with the TR.

Scotty‘s list with the Wilgy/Seanzie/something team was refreshing but it was probably too easy as a solve.

I should probably get on a keyboard and better delve into why I think Martin is mafia. Or change my mind depending on what else I find there.

As for JJJ , I‘m not sure if he is capable of using his authoritative vibe independently of alignment.
But that‘d be my main reason for the town lean and I am watching Rondo vsing him with great interest.

Nothing to say about the fact I have you scum too?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:51 am

die_meatbaby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:49 am Oh meme it is again.... Can't communicate in words?
Also on the beginning of the game you voted with no reason on me. I made like 3 posts and you just vote on me with no particular reason. This shit doesn't help The Town. Can play real as well or should I show you how you fucking play town or as in in your position how to pretend being civilian. You are Mafia or Wolf, or how ever scum in this game is called,making much post to seem like insane active town who wants to win. But you made a mistake. Don't fucking annoy Civilian. Also spam with Bullshit doesn't help Town either! It's only my 3th game here but still def sure you are just not able to play scum because this is not Townisch what you do.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:47 am Porscha
Sean
Rondo
Zenon


Town ezpz... maybe.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:58 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:55 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:29 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:23 pm Martin too to some extent but in his case I‘m more concerned with the perfectionism of the post I quoted that rubbed me the wrong way cause it seemed a tad manipulative/superficially shiny.

So we were scummates last year (maybe?) but I don't remember you having this stance when playing. It's funny, because it is almost, by definition, blendy. You're trying to adapt to the others being purposefully blendy.

So are you saying if all the players were playing more bombastically and off the wall, you would also?

I don‘t require bombasticism, merely interesting thread dynamics to hook into.

This early the game still is divided into player camps of sorts, I‘m looking for the mafia camp to blend into.

Break down the strategy there for me. I guess that's what we're talking about here. Trying to look just scummy enough to not get NK'd and try and make endgame?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:29 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:23 pm Martin too to some extent but in his case I‘m more concerned with the perfectionism of the post I quoted that rubbed me the wrong way cause it seemed a tad manipulative/superficially shiny.

So we were scummates last year (maybe?) but I don't remember you having this stance when playing. It's funny, because it is almost, by definition, blendy. You're trying to adapt to the others being purposefully blendy.

So are you saying if all the players were playing more bombastically and off the wall, you would also?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:18 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:15 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:07 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:05 pm If I am in a position to get information from everyone equally, I can better commit to reads.

I‘m not as much scrambling as adjusting my activity to the level I think appropriate to reciprocate other players‘

Seems like there‘s a lot of alignment sandbagging.

What is alignment sandbagging?

Haven;t heard that one before

I heard it used to describe role-carrying villa behaviour aimed at avoiding getting NKd.

But I‘m also using it to describe it being used to avoid being read altogether.

I think a big portion of the game is doing that.

Ah thanks

So to summarize: you think the thread at large is being intentionally vague to hide their PRs, and so you're adapting to this perception?

And to iterate: from my perspective, I'm not seeing that at all. Who in particular is sandbagging?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:15 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:07 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:05 pm If I am in a position to get information from everyone equally, I can better commit to reads.

I‘m not as much scrambling as adjusting my activity to the level I think appropriate to reciprocate other players‘

Seems like there‘s a lot of alignment sandbagging.

What is alignment sandbagging?

Haven;t heard that one before

I heard it used to describe role-carrying villa behaviour aimed at avoiding getting NKd.

But I‘m also using it to describe it being used to avoid being read altogether.

I think a big portion of the game is doing that.

Ah thanks

So to summarize: you think the thread at large is being intentionally vague to hide their PRs, and so you're adapting to this perception?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:07 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:05 pm If I am in a position to get information from everyone equally, I can better commit to reads.

I‘m not as much scrambling as adjusting my activity to the level I think appropriate to reciprocate other players‘

Seems like there‘s a lot of alignment sandbagging.

What is alignment sandbagging?

Haven;t heard that one before

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:47 pm Of those, Vivax exhibits either a loss of steam during the second half of today or increasingly less convincing angles and ideas, this vote being the lowest

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:47 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:42 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:38 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:34 pm Now I almost wish I had picked food because this trying to push townreads for this reason somehow bothers me.

I don’t see how wanting to live is inherently bad.

I've shrugged it since basically almost anything on the list contributes to living in some capacity whether that be surviving the day or night

the only one that doesn't quite do that under every circumstance is yours and JJJ's umbrella

its not the same since the wood and flint are useless to the mafia

it says in their description they specifically protect from mafia night kill, not from any kill like a vigilante

u shrugging them off and perceiving them as equal (or least representing that ur doing that) sounds believe to me, looks to me like u town told. enjoy the ride buddy

I disagree, having a protection from the factional night-kill, even as mafia, gives the potentially very useful explanation as to why you didn't meet some very scary friends in the dark.

Although maybe that's not really an issue for the mafia (or whoever it is) early on ig.