The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:58 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:54 am You aren't conformable you are using it on someone in the PoE who could just be your scum bud. Your role is categorically not confirmable to the majority of the player base.

You have used zero compelling arguments to try to pull my vote off you. Your claim was way to early. It feels like a LAMIST attempt to pull votes off yourself with a role claim that isn't heavily town sided.

If your unwilling to use the doc on someone that is not PoEd and heavily town read than your not willing to work with town than you are not confirmable. Not to me.

I am working with the town. Thats why im using it on the towncore member that has the reputation of having the best accuracy and drawing night kills on this playerlist

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:55 am Like even at the very moment I was writing my initial post about the issue, even Tutuu added in one wave lol.

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:54 am You aren't conformable you are using it on someone in the PoE who could just be your scum bud. Your role is categorically not confirmable to the majority of the player base.

You have used zero compelling arguments to try to pull my vote off you. Your claim was way to early. It feels like a LAMIST attempt to pull votes off yourself with a role claim that isn't heavily town sided.

If your unwilling to use the doc on someone that is not PoEd and heavily town read than your not willing to work with town than you are not confirmable. Not to me.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:54 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:46 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:25 am It was only a matter of time before other people figured out they could post in #Landing-Pad as well. Sigh.

I hope this game does not devolve into using that instead of the forum, and I would like to ask others not to use it as well even if discord permissions still allow them to do so at a later point in time.

For the record, Belzy sent a waving sticker thingy to Dyslexicon. Rondo soon followed up by waving everyone in the same manner in said channel.

But like why does this matter why is it game relevant? Why is waving in a discord bad?

Its not. But It would be quite troublesome if we had to ISO stuff on this site and then have to cross-reference that with searches in discord, plus potential hosting issues with that given the host appears new to running a discord hub.

Once a message is placed there it is either irrevocably there or the host decides to wipe out stuff that actually happened from the game itself.

Either of which I don't really like, and hence why I got upset at so much as just waiving because all we'll need is another "in for a penny, in for a pound" argument and before you know it its a bunch people posting in there just because someone else did first. Something something snowball-esque/slippery slope effect.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:50 am I am a confirmable town doctor if u want to use ur time scumreading me that is ur choice. This is unimportant to me. Im moving on

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:48 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:47 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:45 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:57 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:55 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:25 pm Roleclaim aside, I don't think tutuu is a good wagon.

yea i dunno what was that all about. i could be biased coz i know im town but. i have had town games where i put 10 times less effort and look 10 times less towny. if im struggling to be perceived as town here then idk how im ever going to be reliably townread when im not trying hard. probably i wouldnt coz i got mischopped last game i was apathic. oh well

I could explain in great detail why I voted you lol but it doesn't really matter you will just say I'm wrong and not think about the reason behind why it appeared scummy.

Blah blah blah.

Well i dont think i just say "ur wrong" often

But why would i think about ur reason for scumreading me? Literally why does that matter? I know im town, and im townreading u. I dont see why being curious bout my townread wrongly scumreading me is an ample use of my time, better to try to solve, no?

Why would you think about it? Cause as town you want to be findable and while a lot of town like to act like wolfs it's much better if they kinda just don't do that and make them self obvious town.

I am as findable as town as I can be. Every active player has me in their towncore as I said. The only ppl scumreading me are ppl not paying attention

Hun. I am active. Porscha is active. SVS is active.

Like... you're just straight up lying.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:47 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:45 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:57 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:55 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:25 pm Roleclaim aside, I don't think tutuu is a good wagon.

yea i dunno what was that all about. i could be biased coz i know im town but. i have had town games where i put 10 times less effort and look 10 times less towny. if im struggling to be perceived as town here then idk how im ever going to be reliably townread when im not trying hard. probably i wouldnt coz i got mischopped last game i was apathic. oh well

I could explain in great detail why I voted you lol but it doesn't really matter you will just say I'm wrong and not think about the reason behind why it appeared scummy.

Blah blah blah.

Well i dont think i just say "ur wrong" often

But why would i think about ur reason for scumreading me? Literally why does that matter? I know im town, and im townreading u. I dont see why being curious bout my townread wrongly scumreading me is an ample use of my time, better to try to solve, no?

Why would you think about it? Cause as town you want to be findable and while a lot of town like to act like wolfs it's much better if they kinda just don't do that and make them self obvious town.

I am as findable as town as I can be. Every active player has me in their towncore as I said. The only ppl scumreading me are ppl not paying attention

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:25 am It was only a matter of time before other people figured out they could post in #Landing-Pad as well. Sigh.

I hope this game does not devolve into using that instead of the forum, and I would like to ask others not to use it as well even if discord permissions still allow them to do so at a later point in time.

For the record, Belzy sent a waving sticker thingy to Dyslexicon. Rondo soon followed up by waving everyone in the same manner in said channel.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:58 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:56 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:35 pm Can't we kill Porscha? Last time Porscha was mafia i gut scumread her. This time time I'm also gut scumreading her. 2/2 maybe???

Porscha is town so like maybe push a scum

Maybe u can teach me a thing or two about scumhunting id be happy to learn from u!

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:57 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:55 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:25 pm Roleclaim aside, I don't think tutuu is a good wagon.

yea i dunno what was that all about. i could be biased coz i know im town but. i have had town games where i put 10 times less effort and look 10 times less towny. if im struggling to be perceived as town here then idk how im ever going to be reliably townread when im not trying hard. probably i wouldnt coz i got mischopped last game i was apathic. oh well

I could explain in great detail why I voted you lol but it doesn't really matter you will just say I'm wrong and not think about the reason behind why it appeared scummy.

Blah blah blah.

Well i dont think i just say "ur wrong" often

But why would i think about ur reason for scumreading me? Literally why does that matter? I know im town, and im townreading u. I dont see why being curious bout my townread wrongly scumreading me is an ample use of my time, better to try to solve, no?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:54 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:53 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:23 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:21 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:19 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:18 pm How many roles do you think can do this? The BTSC part?

i don't understand the framing of the question. they're all custom roles. they can do whatever epi decided

Do you think he would make more than one role the same?

i dunno

u can make neighborhoods too?

sure why not. im rolling with it. i dont place stock in deriving info out of this. i have u as town. u can have neighborhoods, my other townreads can have neighborhoods, all is good

i dont only neighborize but i also protect from NK tho. jay will be alerted that he will be protected from NK as if he had wood and flint. i think. gotta say that looks pretty towny to me

I will move my vote if you use it on me and not Jay tonight

Im good lol

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:55 pm Also there’s no way tutuu is wolf here

She’s townread most the playerlist. Sorta boxed herself in if she’s bad

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:08 pm Townread:
Scotty
Tutuu
JJJ

Townlean:
Zenon
Martin

[VOTE: Die Meat baby] aubergine

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:54 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:56 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:41 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:40 pm Nah, Porscha's town.

why

I have a secret tell on Porscha that hasn't been wrong yet, even before she broke out of her volume-tell issue. I'd rather not say what it is because I've been able to catch her off like 3 posts a few times, and I can usually find her town very quickly when she is town.

Is your secret tell TMI that she is town?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:37 pm Nah, Porscha's town.

ok then u die first. if ur town i sheep. if ur maf L bozo

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:38 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:35 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:34 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:34 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:31 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:28 pm Yes yes the joke was funny earlier

Your ability to make me have a giggle will not stop me from SR'ing you

Do you believe the comparisons tutuu has drawn between you in this game and you as mafia in the past are unfounded?

Yes

Everything she has said about me is pointless and unfounded

What would you say is town-indicative about your play in this game?

I havent obv towned but her and most people in this game knows the chances of me doing that in the first 24 hours isnt likely anyway. Like in se7en, mac sr'd me for the same unfounded reasons, and tutuu let it happen cuz she was a sin. And now she is using it here

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:35 pm Can't we kill Porscha? Last time Porscha was mafia i gut scumread her. This time time I'm also gut scumreading her. 2/2 maybe???

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:27 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:25 pm Roleclaim aside, I don't think tutuu is a good wagon.

yea i dunno what was that all about. i could be biased coz i know im town but. i have had town games where i put 10 times less effort and look 10 times less towny. if im struggling to be perceived as town here then idk how im ever going to be reliably townread when im not trying hard. probably i wouldnt coz i got mischopped last game i was apathic. oh well

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:23 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:21 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:19 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:18 pm How many roles do you think can do this? The BTSC part?

i don't understand the framing of the question. they're all custom roles. they can do whatever epi decided

Do you think he would make more than one role the same?

i dunno

u can make neighborhoods too?

sure why not. im rolling with it. i dont place stock in deriving info out of this. i have u as town. u can have neighborhoods, my other townreads can have neighborhoods, all is good

i dont only neighborize but i also protect from NK tho. jay will be alerted that he will be protected from NK as if he had wood and flint. i think. gotta say that looks pretty towny to me

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:13 pm normally id wait but syndicate games usually low activity and they're slow so i should say this a bit earlier than normal as i reasonably expect to be a big wagon by eod and wanna give the appropriate time for ppl to react and build up new wagons

@Zenon @S~V~S @die_meatbaby @motobot @Porscha (the people voting me)

my role lets me protect myself and a person of my choosing (with the fire mechanic thingy). we will also gain a neighborhood (btsc for u boomers) during the night

i can use it to protect @JaggedJimmyJay and he can verify my role

if u consider my role towny pls consider unvoting me (and honestly voting urselves or something i dunno. except motobot. motobot is cool. he's chill)

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:10 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:58 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:33 pm This is why I should stop trying to multiquote on my phone.

It’s absolutely, terribly broken

So I’ll respond to your last post here

I think you’re being careful here. That post is a testament to that. A lot of mixed feelings, by your own admission.

“You also get paranoid”
Yeah, that’s true. Hence me being paranoid and having early suspicion of your careful wording.

“So you voting me bothered me, I’ll be honest. It felt more to me like you were trying to get a reaction than that you really thought I was being retiring.”

What is mafia if not getting reactions and feeling out the playing field?

I think the weirdest part of our interaction, and a big hang up, was your need to clarify that you don’t like doing OMGUS, so you didn’t. But you implied you wanted to.
I don’t rightly know what that means as to your alignment, but it seemed like you didn’t want to poke the bear

I loathe OMGUS. Where I came up it was the epitome of poor play. That meme of the Asian guy pointing with a big red “No U” was the most overposted thing ever. So yeah I don’t like feeling like I’m resorting to it. So I want to roll a thing like that around and think about it before I act on it cause it makes me feel icky.

But I did kinda sus you for it, which I explained up there.

I’m not being even remotely careful and am pretty much shooting from the hip.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:07 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:04 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:04 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:15 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:13 pm [VOTE: Creature] aubergine

vivax goat

have a townread

and get outta here. u earned it

:eyebrow: earned a tr for making a vote? lmao

not just any vote. my vote. also ur maf

hey nice read you're really nailing trying to shade everyone who hasn't posted in the last 6 hours despite 2 of them being notably polarized

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:03 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:52 pm Piles are alphabetical.

Something or another seems town
MartinGG99
Ricochet
RondoDimBuckle
S~V~S
Scotty
tutuu
Zenon

No reason to town read
Belzy
Creature
die_meatbaby
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Lime Coke
motobot
Porscha
Seanzie
Vivax

What do you say to the fact that I think Scotty is scummy along with Ricochet and cant see a reason for SVS in there? Zenon didnt even post under an alignment so how can she be town? Martin is hardly posting anything?

I can see anyone in the scum pile that should be town yet. BUT maybe thats just me

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:53 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:18 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:15 pm Why does picking food look sus?

i dont think that it looks sus, but i think not picking food looks towny. because ur showing that u arent intending on endgaming / surviving

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:38 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:34 pm I don’t see how wanting to live is inherently bad.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:18 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:15 pm Why does picking food look sus?

i dont think that it looks sus, but i think not picking food looks towny. because ur showing that u arent intending on endgaming / surviving

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:44 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:11 am Page one and so far everything tutuu said about town not picking food for swag or such has irked me.

A. Non-food items are limited, so invariably some townies will have only food to pick. Case in point, me after missing out on all the non-food items. There's no point in judging player's AI based on skipping food, since some will have nothing but food left to pick.
B. Having invisible votes added to your tally is not beneficial. Vote shenanigans are not great for gamesolving purposes. So it's not townminded to boast about getting hungry.
C. Something about waiting to see what Seanzie will pick. Why Seanzie, in particular? And why such concern at all?

Obv i wouldn't scumread someone for picking food if they had no other choice

Im not scumreading people who are picking food in the first place lol

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:12 am Im just gonna write one final post on the food stuff

Food is better than non-food for everyone

By not picking food ur lowkey killing urself

No, u don't steal protection from town if ur mafia and pick flint/wood. Ur just sitting there at perma +1 vote like a potato and then u lose fx

I found it towny for players to choose to pick the bad items thats only use is anti-mafia

I did not say ppl who are picking food are scummy despite multiple ppl coming at me imagining i said that

@S~V~S ok it wasnt 20 but

you keep accusing me of saying that i said that its scummy to pick food. i keep saying thats not what im saying. then u accuse me of doing it again

im just gonna not engage with you on this topic anymore. feel free to follow ur pet scumread that im mafia. the active players have all found me as town. i know that refusing to engage with people isnt helpful, but at some point repeating myself like a parrot feels wasteful. i dont blame myself for this miscommunication

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:53 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:52 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:48 pm I'm a Barbie girl in the Oppenheimer world.
Life in plastic, it's bombastic
Wartime doctrinaire, disperse me everywhere
Detonation, death is your creation.

This actually made me laugh. Thanks!

I promise I didn't get salty that it wasn't an instant social media hit and then post it here for ancillary laughs.

Except that's exactly what I did.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:37 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:33 pmVote Tutuu

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:56 pm Y

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:34 pm Zenon prob just town

Or a 3p bat or spider or what have you

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:20 pm This is a good opportunity for me to lead by example of how to behave when ur getting wagoned. U dont see me throwing tantrums or being rude to people voting me. Its something thats needed more of in mafia games. I used to struggle with retaining self control. Im proud of myself for coming this far. Im great

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:47 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:35 pm I think I understand what motobot meant, but I will let him explain for himself before I say anything.

Give him a bit, we’ve been collaborating about how to rephrase in scum chat

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:30 pm

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:26 am

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:16 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:08 am I'm town. Glad we got that out of the way. Now play the fucking game and stop being weird about me for choosing to play it

I need neither expletives nor accusations thrown at me for pointing that you played blindfolded mafia for half a day and it's void of any proper mafia reading, thanks.

Oh what a joke. I was 4 pages behind I'm not gonna sit with my hands tied because I didn't get a ping or notification until 4 pages into this game.

A wolf will fake towniness. A town will be towny. I didn't play against the spirit of the fucking game by playing the fucking game. This is such a dumb take and honestly insulting.

Its not a dumb take

Its not insulting, at least the core concept of it, regardless of rico's wording

U arent playing mafia if u dont know ur alignment. Ur literally not a player yet

In most communities it gets u modkilled because its a form of cheating. U can rand mafia, not real ur role pm, then u dont have the burden of TMI. People read u as towny and u dont deserve it

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:59 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:50 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:41 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:34 am I will behave now. Sorry for lashing out.

I do not like being accused of playing against the spirit of the game that genuinely hurts me because of some old mafia wounds.

Your feelings are valid.

We play on! If you're stifled for motivation at the moment, I'd be pleased to hear your takes on some of the lower posters.

I'm struggling because there was like 5 pages of mech talk and that's just not anything I will ever feel comfortable with or generally be able to connect too. It feels like noise to me and I can't read alignemt into it because it doesn't gel with my read style so like despite being hundreds of post deep I have like net zero reads and normally I gr as sp onto small snap reads early to gain a foothold in the game

Snap reads time/

You’ve at least interacted with me and Jjj:
What’s your take on us?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:49 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:30 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:28 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:15 am I'm surprised nobody has pushed me for only 11 posting

Actually, I’m more scum leaning you now because you haven’t posted any gifs in your first page of posts or shown that solving snark I come to expect from town Zenon

Meta is fluid tho, so it’s a base level read

Amusingly... not gif posting is one of my scum tells

Right, but I don’t rely on meta as a pure way to suspect someone.

And anyway, you assuaged my concern slightly.

Just need to work on getting your WIM back. That’s concerning since we just started and haven’t flipped anyone

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:41 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:34 am I will behave now. Sorry for lashing out.

I do not like being accused of playing against the spirit of the game that genuinely hurts me because of some old mafia wounds.

Your feelings are valid.

We play on! If you're stifled for motivation at the moment, I'd be pleased to hear your takes on some of the lower posters.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:40 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:57 am

nm there she is

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:28 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:15 am I'm surprised nobody has pushed me for only 11 posting

Actually, I’m more scum leaning you now because you haven’t posted any gifs in your first page of posts or shown that solving snark I come to expect from town Zenon

Meta is fluid tho, so it’s a base level read

Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:16 am

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:08 am I'm town. Glad we got that out of the way. Now play the fucking game and stop being weird about me for choosing to play it

I need neither expletives nor accusations thrown at me for pointing that you played blindfolded mafia for half a day and it's void of any proper mafia reading, thanks.