The Syndicate

Day1
Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo

Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook

Porscha (2): Boq, Lily

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Day2
Creature (7): Alison, Seanzie, staypositivefriend, Lilypetal, MacDougall, Boquise, RondoDimBuckleim

Alison (4): Porscha, arogame123, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, lucy

arogame123 (1): Neon

Neon (1): Creature

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:04 pm
arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 24, 2022 8:02 pm hmmm ok. I have some thoughts.

I am currently leaning towards an Alison/Neon team rn.

I decided to go into some of Neon's mafia gc and I found some gems and I think she is playing very similarly here.

I think Alison is likely mafia as well and I will explain soon.
saying my thoughts exactly aro

[VOTE: Neon] aubergine

Yikes lol

Next time I'll just post a blank page when someone asks for my thoughts

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:21 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:08 am Anyways the thing I was trying to do

Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo

Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook

Porscha (2): Boq, Lily

Reads:

Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo

Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook

Porscha (2): Boq, Lily

Thoughts...if TVT 1 of Boq Lily is almost 100% woof IMHO out of those I'm on Boq

PoE: Boq

Rondo and Seanzie actually feel mostly townie to me as of this day but what's the actual likelihood Alison's wagon is just pure? I dunno. Maybe 2 woofs stacked on Falcon by why not try to get Alison over as I've been repeatedly told she's a strong player.

Creature just feels outed

PoE: Creature, Boq

I kinda don't like Aro at all today and Nanook has felt off this entire game to me but I've never really felt Nanook was easy to read

PoE: Creature, Aro, Boq, Nanook

I dunno if I assumed woofs put 1 on each wagon I'd probably lean Seanzie, Creature, Boq... I'm kind of just leaning town on Alison harder and harder. I suck at mafia.

Anyways somewhere in the yellow are my woofs.
This is a bad post.

Thank you. There's a vote button on the top of the page.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:19 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:31 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:52 am Are y'all sure we shouldn't just kill Boq?
the fact that you are unable to re-evaluate me even one single bit is hilarious and I will be annoying come post game tbh
nobody ever understands me. It is probably my own fault.

I feel this on a deeply emotional level

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:17 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:06 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:52 am Are y'all sure we shouldn't just kill Boq?
No

No, you aren't sure?

Yes

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:51 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:13 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:01 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:51 am
Sure I'm not saying don't vote off wagon. Hell I'm voting off wagon. That's not why it's bad.

I don't solve in consensus with others. But I think a vote can be bad irregardless of intent outside it.

But maybe it's semantics I'd prefer we not clog the thread.

In wolf equity though I have this to say. I suck at Werewolf but I'm better than that.
Why is it bad then, if off wagon is not bad?
I don't think we are clogging the thread. The thread is almost silent and this conversation might make people get reads out of us too tbh! That's pro town.

Thats not a very good defence ngl tbh
I mean I've stated why. But you disagree so I'm trying to drop it. I also just think my feelings are probably invalid and developed because of the places I grew up playing. I'm not used to playing in hammerless mountainous games.

I grew up almost exclusively playing like Role Madness hammer on with stupidly insane mechanics where voting someone who was widely TRd could just accidentally end up killing them for various reasons in some of those games so I've always played with the rule that you should vote someone who you SR but isn't outside thread state PoE

If that makes sense. I started playing in a very weird mafia environment and it's why "Neon makes no sense and plays weird" is something I hear a lot. Along with being killed early in every new place I play and flipping town and people telling me I need to change how I play.

Even within my home site I played weird but it stood out less there.
I am confused. You said that it was bad because it was a vanity wagon - as in an off-wagon tbh.
Dropping a discussion feels rather bad, are you not interested in trying to understand my pov tbh?

I also did not realise that Lily was "widely TR'd". That doesnt really match with my thoughts tbh

Regarding, "Neon makes no sense and plays weird", thats not really why I began scum leaning you in a hypothetical.. Rather the opposite tbh

It's not so much that it's a single vote off wagon is that it's a single vote off wagon on a wagon that will never exist *shrugs* at least Porscha existed yesterday but you ended there when it didn't exist which is really kind of a waste no?

I don't want to continue this conversation because it's going nowhere

I'm not saying you are saying that I'm saying it will inevitably end up somewhere like that when I flip town.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:46 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 4:21 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:40 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:27 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:25 pm People who have read the whole game and are not Creature/Porcha/SPF is that team viable?
That is the exact 3 people I have been pushing as my team solve for the past 10 pages.
Mac said you and he had a conversation about how in mountainous you need to resolve day 1 wagons. Are you saying you didnt have this conversation? Why are you trying to not go over so hard when you think that is the case? Why are you not trying to push Porcha?
I... what?
Since two people have been confused

Mac has said that Alison had a conversation with him that both day 1 slots need to be resolved in a mountainous game (I dont care about the details but its what they discussed so I will take it as fact its a meta thing and helpful to town, they're probably right)

Alison has been arguing with Mac all day and on a casual read I saw not one statement affirming the fact that indeed Alison feels that way and they indeed had that conversation but at the same time, not a single denial.

Considering the fact that Alison's stance at that point was contrary to the conversations they have had previously AND the fact that Alison called for a flash wagon (Though she does deny it but that is another conversation now that I am thinking about it again) which is also against her Meta it raises some red flags that were never directly dealt with.

Ergo if Alison does believe in that theory AND had that conversation with Mac why were they trying so hard to stay alive knowing it is in the best interest of town?

Secondarily IF this is the case AND she wants to self pres the best option is to push Porcha as she was one of the viable EOD wagons yesterday. It was just something interesting I noticed

As to her Flash wagon talk, she later claimed Seanzie said she is flash wagoning and in fact she was not but now that I have been typing this out in a larger brief I have realised she did not push Seanzie for claiming she was flash wagoning and has as far as I am aware not caused any flakk for him. Which to me shows a ++Equity for Alison/Seanzie when I KNOW Alison is eager to put anyone on blast for claiming she is doing something she doesnt do.

I think Alison's explanations on this made sense to me

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:11 am Don't solve whole game.

Kill wolf.

Then reassess.

And don't read the first wolf for spew.

Just reset.

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:01 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:51 am
Sure I'm not saying don't vote off wagon. Hell I'm voting off wagon. That's not why it's bad.

I don't solve in consensus with others. But I think a vote can be bad irregardless of intent outside it.

But maybe it's semantics I'd prefer we not clog the thread.

In wolf equity though I have this to say. I suck at Werewolf but I'm better than that.
Why is it bad then, if off wagon is not bad?
I don't think we are clogging the thread. The thread is almost silent and this conversation might make people get reads out of us too tbh! That's pro town.

Thats not a very good defence ngl tbh

I mean I've stated why. But you disagree so I'm trying to drop it. I also just think my feelings are probably invalid and developed because of the places I grew up playing. I'm not used to playing in hammerless mountainous games.

I grew up almost exclusively playing like Role Madness hammer on with stupidly insane mechanics where voting someone who was widely TRd could just accidentally end up killing them for various reasons in some of those games so I've always played with the rule that you should vote someone who you SR but isn't outside thread state PoE

If that makes sense. I started playing in a very weird mafia environment and it's why "Neon makes no sense and plays weird" is something I hear a lot. Along with being killed early in every new place I play and flipping town and people telling me I need to change how I play.

Even within my home site I played weird but it stood out less there.

Re: King of the Hill Mafia lucy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:05 amcopypasta btw

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:05 amcopypasta btw

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:03 am I've still in the middle of towncasing myself and I debated whether to say this for awhile or if it would even help since I don't think I've ever discussed this before and it's icky but I'll just say it:

I promise I'm town.

You've never heard me say I promise in a mafia game before and you'll never hear me say I promise in a mafia game again. That's because it would be a trust tell if I did it as a pattern. I feel like as someone who lies because of being a mafia player I need to have something that's trustworthy no matter what and that's why I make sure my promises are 100% true.

This game is just so important to me and I know I'll feel absolutely horrible if I were the lylo mislim and the reason town loses that I feel like I have to do anything in my power to make town win.

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:56 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:52 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:21 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:08 am Anyways the thing I was trying to do

Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo

Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook

Porscha (2): Boq, Lily

Reads:

Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo

Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook

Porscha (2): Boq, Lily

Thoughts...if TVT 1 of Boq Lily is almost 100% woof IMHO out of those I'm on Boq

PoE: Boq

Rondo and Seanzie actually feel mostly townie to me as of this day but what's the actual likelihood Alison's wagon is just pure? I dunno. Maybe 2 woofs stacked on Falcon by why not try to get Alison over as I've been repeatedly told she's a strong player.

Creature just feels outed

PoE: Creature, Boq

I kinda don't like Aro at all today and Nanook has felt off this entire game to me but I've never really felt Nanook was easy to read

PoE: Creature, Aro, Boq, Nanook

I dunno if I assumed woofs put 1 on each wagon I'd probably lean Seanzie, Creature, Boq... I'm kind of just leaning town on Alison harder and harder. I suck at mafia.

Anyways somewhere in the yellow are my woofs.
Did I fall into the poe after being declared towncore solely for my Lily vote? Lmao.
It was for the reason I stated.

I dunno what you want me to say. If Alison is town your a woof candidate in my pov.

*shrugs*

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:57 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:48 am
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:12 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:09 amBack to work.
why do you townread me?
Vibes. I like your tone and solving and generally how you're posts sound and feel. I dunno how to word it better than that.
is this an independent read, or is it motivated by other peoples reads on me?

Independent. But I do weigh and value the opinions of those I heavily town read towards players I less heavily town read.

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:22 am Actually Neon your progression of me must be one of the 7 mysteries. Yesterday you scum read me because I pushed you. I was then suddenly town, and now I am scum once more.

Please describe your progression tbh

It was for the reason stated. Yellow does not equal scum.

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:21 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:08 am Anyways the thing I was trying to do

Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo

Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook

Porscha (2): Boq, Lily

Reads:

Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo

Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook

Porscha (2): Boq, Lily

Thoughts...if TVT 1 of Boq Lily is almost 100% woof IMHO out of those I'm on Boq

PoE: Boq

Rondo and Seanzie actually feel mostly townie to me as of this day but what's the actual likelihood Alison's wagon is just pure? I dunno. Maybe 2 woofs stacked on Falcon by why not try to get Alison over as I've been repeatedly told she's a strong player.

Creature just feels outed

PoE: Creature, Boq

I kinda don't like Aro at all today and Nanook has felt off this entire game to me but I've never really felt Nanook was easy to read

PoE: Creature, Aro, Boq, Nanook

I dunno if I assumed woofs put 1 on each wagon I'd probably lean Seanzie, Creature, Boq... I'm kind of just leaning town on Alison harder and harder. I suck at mafia.

Anyways somewhere in the yellow are my woofs.
Did I fall into the poe after being declared towncore solely for my Lily vote? Lmao.

It was for the reason I stated.

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:20 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:49 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:30 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:22 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:38 am [VOTE: Lilypetal] aubergine

for now
This is bad and you should feel bad.
you have now protected both Lily and Porscha but iirc you have not given much reason to why tbh
Why do you want to prevent solving tbh?
How does it solve to throw a single vote on a vanity wagon that is universally pretty town cored?

Porscha at least had wagon potential but I also just TR porscha and so yes I thought that was also bad and had Porscha gone over and flipped town you have two ways to look at my agenda. The right one and the wrong one
I solve independently. I am no lemming tbh, and that is what I want to signal to the wolves tbh.
Furthermore, my vote made you react, so that makes me able to get insight on you tbh

Finally, it is super bad if all we do today is chill at 2 wagons for 48 hours. It means that we will be forced to solve between Alison and Creature for perhaps D3 too. If both are town, that is disastrous for town and for our chances to find wolves. If both Alison and Creature are town - then wolves want to keep this status quo so they have two free days. Therefore wolves are likely to be inside those who react strongly to votes outside the status quo and want to make those outliers feel bad for doing so, get them to follow the line.

Which means that thanks to my vote, your wolf equity became way higher - if Alison and Creature are town. I think that's very productive in solving tbh

Sure I'm not saying don't vote off wagon. Hell I'm voting off wagon. That's not why it's bad.

I don't solve in consensus with others. But I think a vote can be bad irregardless of intent outside it.

But maybe it's semantics I'd prefer we not clog the thread.

In wolf equity though I have this to say. I suck at Werewolf but I'm better than that.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:12 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:09 amBack to work.
why do you townread me?

Vibes. I like your tone and solving and generally how you're posts sound and feel. I dunno how to word it better than that.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:10 am why do you actually suspect boq/lily
i don’t think there has to be mafia in them

I dunno wagonomics 101 has taught me that in T v T with an off wagon there's usually a woof off wagon. Usually exactly 1.

Back to work.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:02 am @Neon can you drop a reads list or something, thoughts on alison/creature minimum

Hey...I was kind of doing that

Anyways the thing I was trying to do

Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo

Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook

Porscha (2): Boq, Lily

Reads:

Alison (6): Neon, Porscha, Falcon, Seanzie, Jack, Rondo

Falcon (7): Creature, Aro, Alison, Mac, Lucy, SPF, Nanook

Porscha (2): Boq, Lily

Thoughts...if TVT 1 of Boq Lily is almost 100% woof IMHO out of those I'm on Boq

PoE: Boq

Rondo and Seanzie actually feel mostly townie to me as of this day but what's the actual likelihood Alison's wagon is just pure? I dunno. Maybe 2 woofs stacked on Falcon by why not try to get Alison over as I've been repeatedly told she's a strong player.

Creature just feels outed

PoE: Creature, Boq

I kinda don't like Aro at all today and Nanook has felt off this entire game to me but I've never really felt Nanook was easy to read

PoE: Creature, Aro, Boq, Nanook

I dunno if I assumed woofs put 1 on each wagon I'd probably lean Seanzie, Creature, Boq... I'm kind of just leaning town on Alison harder and harder. I suck at mafia.

Anyways somewhere in the yellow are my woofs.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:51 am @Neon if he wants to find me as town let him pls its not unreasonable imo

Vote sucks sorry not sorry. He can find you without the vote. *shrugs*

If the vote is there and I think it sucks I will note it sucks.

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:30 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:22 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:38 am [VOTE: Lilypetal] aubergine

for now
This is bad and you should feel bad.
you have now protected both Lily and Porscha but iirc you have not given much reason to why tbh
Why do you want to prevent solving tbh?

How does it solve to throw a single vote on a vanity wagon that is universally pretty town cored?

Porscha at least had wagon potential but I also just TR porscha and so yes I thought that was also bad and had Porscha gone over and flipped town you have two ways to look at my agenda. The right one and the wrong one

@arogame123

Did you ever read the games I grabbed for you and I if so did they change your world view on me in any meaningful way?

Boquise wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 3:38 am [VOTE: Lilypetal] aubergine

for now

This is bad and you should feel bad.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:52 am Are y'all sure we shouldn't just kill Boq?

No

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:21 pm but since I am talking to you three scum directly, I will not say who I think it is and you have to gauge if I'm bluffing or not

I am willing to 90% guess that there's a 70% chance your 95% not bluffing 100% of the time

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:43 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:41 pm there should be a Balkans mafia where the flavor is just names of the Balkan countries
then mafia is just Turkey, Ottoman Empire, and the Byzantine Empire

Honestly I'd play it

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:19 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:18 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:17 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Seanzie @Boquise more content pls
Spoiler: show
tbh

threesomes r pro town
im straight

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:09 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:07 pm I dont disagree if Alison flips town I am doing a 720 on Mac
Yes, because if I flip town you will kill one of my top townreads at the behest of one of my top scumreads.

I'm pretty positive that a 720 means the read wouldn't change at all lol

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:59 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:48 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:41 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:38 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:23 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:20 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:15 pm

i hate this post
especially because it goes 24h before eod
yah it feels a bit like anti-spew, not sure why creature is already throwing in the towel and planning for his death when alison is literally still the leading wagon
Hasn't Alison done the exact same?
this response makes no sense because alison was/is in the leading wagon and is widely agreed to be the person who dies today, so it makes sense for her to throw in the towel. it does not make sense for you to throw in the towel

why are you trying to deflect to alison instead of standing up for your own actions?
I don't know. I've been treated with bad-faith so much I'd rather just command town what to do after I die. Alison prob still needs to be resolved because now I feel like she is playing against her own standards. Mac needs to die D4 if he's still alive and hasn't produced us any pelt. Then you prob have to go if you have only pushed town all game.
You know what. I was just going to let this post slide by because I kinda agree with it but no. No. We dont just kill good players because they survive too long. Thats exactly what wolves want us to do in some games and know they can get a free lynch out. Policying Mac 2 days in the future is just a post that rubs me the wrong way.
It's day 4.

Mac has succesfully led three horrible mislynches the first three days.

Wolves have only nightkilled potatoes (Jack, Porscha and uh...Neon?).

What do you do?

So you think I'm town than

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:40 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:27 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:25 pm People who have read the whole game and are not Creature/Porcha/SPF is that team viable?
That is the exact 3 people I have been pushing as my team solve for the past 10 pages.
Mac said you and he had a conversation about how in mountainous you need to resolve day 1 wagons. Are you saying you didnt have this conversation? Why are you trying to not go over so hard when you think that is the case? Why are you not trying to push Porcha?

I... what?

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:25 pm Neon still bothers me for sounding robotic.

I kinda think Rondo is town here, but meh.

Robotic? How the fuck do I sound robotic lol

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:57 pm i would like neon to be town because i like her playstyle/personality

It's your lucky day cause I'm totes town

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:35 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:30 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:27 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:59 pm You guys are dumb, I'm town

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:00 pm Oh well, it's been a slice.

Alison, Mac, Boq

Legacy.

Peace out homies, and good luck town. I now must make supper
this was the entirety of his eod so this is all we could be talking about. if you don't think it's towny that's fine but it resonated with me
What about it resonated with you? "You guys are dumb, I'm town" has to be one of the most common things I've seen said, by players of either alignment imminently before their death. His legacy is just a restatement of his old reads... what exactly did you think was townie about it?
if im being honest with u it's the casual nature of his legacy post. it just seemed like a towny being day 1 MLed. reminded me of other games

This. But also for me it was the timing of it. EoD was upon us the wagons were close and I supposed close enough that someone could have saved him off it but it felt to me due to the timing of it that it was agendaless he was going over he knew he was and he popped in to have a laugh at how dumb town was being and throw down a quick legacy.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:27 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 7:59 pm You guys are dumb, I'm town

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:00 pm Oh well, it's been a slice.

Alison, Mac, Boq

Legacy.

Peace out homies, and good luck town. I now must make supper
this was the entirety of his eod so this is all we could be talking about. if you don't think it's towny that's fine but it resonated with me

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:49 pm Cool. Everyone else, don't let Lilypetal out of your POE for the rest of the game.

Too late

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:29 pm It is clear you people cannot solve the game or move on without seeing my flip so let's just do that today. I will admit I was a bit hesitant at the start of today because Jack is an odd kill for Porscha to make and I didn't really want to allow chain Alison -> Porscha misexes if that was the case. I don't care any more though, I'm more of a liability at this point given that so many people are stuck without knowing I'm town + Porscha is probably scum regardless. (Also I cannot be allowed to endgame under any circumstances, it's a free win for mafia if I do.)

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

My legacy POE is given. If you put a gun to my head and told me to give an exact team solve, I'd say Porscha/Creature/SPF. Creature is right, 3 "POE'd" slots doesn't kill Jack over SPF or Mac. Mac is town ergo SPF is in the team and killed Jack because he was the only one sussing her. It would explain why a Porscha team would kill Jack, and I think it neatly explains everything that went on D1.

Man I hate when people vote themself. It's so anti town but for some reason it also statistically seems to come from town most often.

*sigh* and also it works on me. Now I feel bad for voting here.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:38 pm
arogame123 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:36 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:28 pm
arogame123 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:23 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:16 pm
arogame123 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:05 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:00 pm

My thoughts and motives totally lined up with my actions. I sheeped spf and didn't vote alison but I figured mac was wrong and voted off the wagon because of it. You're stuck on who I went to but I just wanted to vote with boquise because I thought it would be cute and i wanted off the obv town. I never thought porscha would die lol.
You said you were sheeping Mac though right? Like I’m trying to understand that you were sheeping Mac, SPF, and I guess somewhat boq?

They were both on falcon and you thought they were wrong on him.

What were and are your current takes on Alison then? Why didn’t you want to save who u viewed as “obv town”
I expressed it. I valued spf's opinion maybe out of fear maybe out of respect and didn't vote on Alison. I sheeped mac on Falcon. I didn't sheep boq lol like I said my vote swap wasn't me trying to kill porscha..

I think Alison is fine. I was a bit sus day 1 but like spf said light sus doesn't cut it u need an argument and I didn't have one. I'm not sure how you're misunderstanding me
Ok so you expressed interest in SPF’s opinion onto not voting Alison fine. You sheeped Mac on Falcon fine. You thought Falcon was obvious town, fine.

I know you know your vote wasn’t trying to kill Porscha but I said earlier, that your vote not only did it make us potentially lose a lynch, from your POV, if you thought more confidently about Falcon being “obv town” why didn’t you want to save Falcon then? Like that’s what I’m trying to understand now then if that makes sense. Like either A you stay on Falcon with the sheep on Mac, but B if you thought falcon was “obv town” why didn’t you attempt to save him then?

Like did you want to save him by tying wagons and make us lose a ml? Like that’s the only thing I can see and if that was your intentions, as bad as that is, I can sort of empathise with that.

Hopefully that makes more sense.
It wasn't about saving him. It was about not being one to bury him. You realize in my pov it's a lose-lose, right? Falcon is town posting right before death. If I vote Alison I am morally executed for killing a good player day 1. I just said fuck it I'll walk my own path and voted off wagons.

I didn't think we would lose an elim because I didn't do it last second. It was like 1-2 mins before with plenty of people active in thread and as you saw we did get the elim. What ifs don't rly matter because I didn't cost us the elim. If I did then fuck I suck but I didn't. I suck anyway but I did the thing I wanted to do in the end
Ok, so my question then is, even if you stayed on Falcon, why were you worried people would push you or feel the way they did about you?

Like yes, I can understand it’s a lose-lose situation from your POV and that makes more sense after your previous statements. But were you worried of how you were perceived if you kept your vote on Falcon and he died?

By walking your own paths, was your goal to dissociate yourself from the wagons coming into today?

And I can’t really look at vote counts or time stamps. I was referring to Lucy’s vote count posts. So if that were the case of it being 1-2 min, then that’s one thing that has less of an impact.
no lol i voted off wagon in a spur of the moment decision saw he flipped town and went YEP I WAS RIGHT then thought about it after and went god people are gonna push me for this arent they

like if im a wolf explain why I don't just sit on the falcon wagon and blame mac when he flips town

To be fair from a strictly Neon view I don't see the wolf motivation for this vote switch ever I only see the town motivation for it and i think trying to scum read Lily because of it is kind of silly. Why does scum Lily need to move off the wagon? Nobody is gonna look at her first on that wagon hell nobody is gonna look at her at all on that wagon imho.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:23 pm
arogame123 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:09 pm What’s ur current gamestate/view like on who u want to kill today?
I am struggling to find scum but I have an abundance of town per usual

Town: spf, Mac, Boquise, Porscha, Neon

Not sure how I feel about creature. Moved lucy to null because I think her play could very easily come from a wolf.

Seanzie seems kinda meh I need to iso

Someone once told me if you are struggling to find scum but your good at finding town than find town and anyone you don't find as town are your scum pile

And that's kinda worked for me so far.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:52 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:29 am No. In my experience sleeping am hour makes you more tired
I ended up sleeping and im glad I did cause I actually managed to get three and a half and that was worth it

I average like 4 to 5 xD

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:12 am Like we're probably either in a universe where:

Alison is mafia with whoever the fuck
or
Neon/Lily are mafia and their whole agenda in this game is just pocket and try to coast

I feel like almost everybody with the exception of Creature and SPF are relatively suspicious of Alison at this point? (If you aren't then vocalise it).

I feel like almost nobody EXCEPT Creature/Alison/SPF is suspicious of Neon or Lily?

@RondoDimBuckle can you come play or something.

@lucy what's your gamestate?

Is this Neon and Lily or Neon or Lily

Because you have to know I don't make it this blatantly obvious if we were teamed

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:18 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:09 am I'm like 4 pages behind and dedicated to staying there, but the few pages I did read this morning give me one big impress

Mac and Alison are putting on a show. Wolf theatre 3000.
you really think it's more likely w/w than any other option? i'm hesitant to believe that world exists before the other options

Is it bad that I half jokingly said this earlier lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:42 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:00 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:35 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:01 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:30 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:30 amI'm bored a f
truth or dare
Truth.
do you like zoids?
The anime? Cause fuck yea that was one of the first two animes I watched that got me into it
that's very poggers ma'am. I love zoids

No. In my experience sleeping am hour makes you more tired

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:35 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:01 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:30 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:30 amI'm bored a f
truth or dare
Truth.
do you like zoids?

The anime? Cause fuck yea that was one of the first two animes I watched that got me into it

arogame123 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:20 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:18 am
arogame123 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:10 am
Boquise wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:07 am i am going to once more walk back on my porscha read and stop - she is town tbh
I have never been wrong on this sort of read before and I know players in her position are often misyeet bait tbh
Is it more so with the Ate and how she feels like she is being up for "ml material" bc tbh, that was the part that was kinda getting to me and I thought was slightly townie.

I am a man of emotion, so that type of thing gets to me. She seemed very ferocious and pissed off yea.
it is her entitlement when being scum read tbh
hmmm, ngl, I kinda got similar vibes from Neon earlier with that.

Do you tr Neon as well?

I don't think I've ever been called entitled before

arogame123 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:10 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:09 am
arogame123 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:08 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:01 am
arogame123 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:52 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:30 amI'm bored a f
Want to chit chat if you are still here?
I'm always watching. Wazowski.
I am a fan of Monsters Inc lol

What's your favorite type of ice cream?
Strawberry bar none!
ooh, mint chocolate chip is better hehe

arogame123 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:08 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:01 am
arogame123 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:52 am
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:30 amI'm bored a f
Want to chit chat if you are still here?
I'm always watching. Wazowski.
I am a fan of Monsters Inc lol

What's your favorite type of ice cream?

Strawberry bar none!

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