The Syndicate

GGs

I'm not outing Nook town... Nook just is fucking town and your the obvious wolf that somehow is going to win despite every neonsign in the world pointing bright flashing lights at you screaming HEY THIS IS A WOLF

And it's unbelievably frustrating. I couldn't have possibly been more towny and I'm still going toget wrongfully miskilled.

At this point ig I just hope Creature votes with me and let's it rand or whatever since Nook is wolf siding and Porscha is a wolf.

You really think I shot Obscurity instead of just killing the confirmed town lol.

GGs I guess. Nook out here giving the wolf's a win.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:11 pm Yawn I'm pretty annoyed.

NANOOK, tbh I kinda expected town!you to be pretty quick to vote considering this is pretty much an F3 scenario and I saw you were quick to vote in plenty of games where you were town.

Neon, Porscha, do you have any wolf game I can look into? I know at least one of you is saying to have a pretty bad wolfgame but I don't know the extent of how bad it is.

Anyway, I may suggest sleeping today if I feel like we aren't ready for this decision.

I posted mine earlier for Obs. I think is pretty obvious that it's not Nook. It should be obvious it's not me... I've given everything I have to this game and I'm drained I've given you 2 woofs and when I caught the 2nd one I almost got misexe'd. Now Porscha does the obvious kill to keep the tunnel away and I'm going to get misexe'd again. It's frustrating that I've been PoE since D1 and no matter what I do to help town I'm still being mispushed.

Honestly this is the best game I've ever played regardless but I just really want to win.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:45 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:58 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:25 pm 1) if you're referring to sabi then yeah if mac is tunneling her you might as well bus tbqh
2) i forgot there was apparently some heated back and forth you had with wilgy, but I also had a lot of that with wilgy and if you're town then i'd like you to consider this as a point in my favor if it's a point in your favor

3) are we thinking that mr. mech over there (nook) is trying to mechanically outplay us? I kinda didn't like nooks' post right before falcon flip that said "hope we arent throwing lol" like the tone in that spot was just *chef's vomit* disgUSTing

1. I like to think I'm good enough to talk Mac out of tunneling my team mate because I like to think I'm a good talker but tbf I'm probably not lol

2. Fairs fair I will go back and look

3. Do you think there's a world where it's actually Nook?

I'm going to go back and look at votes somebody told me once that the best way to find Nooks alignment is if he's killing villagers with votes and general like vote reading.

good to know we recently read the same post
the world view is simple at this point so nook has to be considered. I brought up how I am doing my poe in my most recent posts. in theory the last wolf has to be goon. I am less likely to believe that wolf nook, even with his PR partners, would be able to have a relatively accurate read on who did or didnt go somewhere. i think the only one that could be done is if the night falcon didn't move, wilgy rb'd him thinking he was a PR so nook could accurately say that faclon didn't move even without knowledge of falcon being vanilla
do we think nook would make that series of posts saying he flubbed the track on creature instead of wilgy if he's wolf? what is the point of that? cuz I think it does nothing but make him look not good

if we assume nook has a PR then he can't be vanilla wolf. creature is mason. it leaves me and you, neon, that don't have any kind of role claim. so it's why i'm landing on you more than nook right now

See this makes sense but it's why I'm on you and why I came into today convinced it was you so hard. I know I'm town. I knew Creature is town. I believe that Nook is town... where else do I go.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 3:25 pm 1) if you're referring to sabi then yeah if mac is tunneling her you might as well bus tbqh
2) i forgot there was apparently some heated back and forth you had with wilgy, but I also had a lot of that with wilgy and if you're town then i'd like you to consider this as a point in my favor if it's a point in your favor

3) are we thinking that mr. mech over there (nook) is trying to mechanically outplay us? I kinda didn't like nooks' post right before falcon flip that said "hope we arent throwing lol" like the tone in that spot was just *chef's vomit* disgUSTing

1. I like to think I'm good enough to talk Mac out of tunneling my team mate because I like to think I'm a good talker but tbf I'm probably not lol

2. Fairs fair I will go back and look

3. Do you think there's a world where it's actually Nook?

I'm going to go back and look at votes somebody told me once that the best way to find Nooks alignment is if he's killing villagers with votes and general like vote reading.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:13 pm Okay neon in a world where it isnt me, then you're looking at nook right

Also you could have easily bussed sabi and wilgy imo

Yes Nook is a possibility too but from where I'm standing Nook makes less sense than you. But...I really barely know Nook and from what I can tell Nook is someone who's very hard to read as either alignment and plays pretty similarly.

How likely do you think it is that I would draw that much attention to my teammate early when Mac is hard tunneling them and I know Mac will bring home their pelt? How likely is it do you think that me and Wilgz decided to just do elaborate theatre for multiple days straight to the point I was legitimately getting frustrated with how they were treating my slot? And how likely do you think it is that I am capable of pulling any of that off? Like... self meta and all that but I'm never going to try to bus my PRs early I'm never pushing Sabi that early and I really don't have the foresight to pull any of this off and not crumble.

Words can not describe how annoyed I'm going to be if I get misexecuted here.

Me killing Obs makes no sense in any world. Me pushing Sabi makes no sense if I'm a wolf. Me trying to get this whole town to see how obvious a wolf Wilgy was for 3 straight days makes no sense.

The obvious answer was the right answer when Wilgy was killing everyone sniffing in his direction but now we are going to ignore that the ONLY person with the motivation to kill Obscurity is Porscha because Obscurity was hard tunneled and the only way Porscha could convince you to misexe is by silencing the loudest voice in the room.

Creature was MIA
Nook was wolf siding

And I've never had any real thread pull

I know I'm not wolf and I am just confused about why the conversation is now about how Porscha wouldn't kill the hard tunnel with thread pull on her.

Please don't tell me we are going to fall for this again...

Please...

I'm too lazy and busy to write out my case on why Falcon lightly pushing me yesterday fits with my current idea that the woofers would have tried to put feelers out to see if they could get the misexe on me and switched onto wilgy if it became obvious it wasn't going to happen.

Porscha doing all my homework for me.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:57 pm

obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:44 pm Porscha can you link some past scum and town games

You might have already but I don't remember

watch out i'm about to be polarized

town: viewtopic.php?t=2417

maf: viewtopic.php?t=2398

Sabi was also "polarized" and used that as a defense for an entire game where they shit all over town so I'm going to never listen to anyone who says that ever again.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:52 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:46 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:44 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:42 pm Wilgy TRs me, his teammate, in his legacy reads? Really?

he also tr'd nook

"Wilgy SR's me, this teamamte, in his legacy reads? Really?"

see i can do it too

Yeah, he also softeded off you as well, when he was pushing Neon & Ruri, so no you can't do it

yeah wilgy also hard defended you all game with no second thought and I don't recall you ever questioning it, so no you can't do it either

One thing to note is how hard Wilgy also defended Jack.

I don't disagree clearly just want to see where your head is at.

How likely is it that a two shot doc held power for this long?

Why kill perpetual slanker Ruri with no thread pull instead of anyone with some semblance of thread command?

It doesn't make sense to me but I'm notorious for over analyzing.

Either way did you ever say why you voted Falc, Nanook?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:16 am

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:57 am Critically we need to think why Ruri over

Me
Creature
Obs

It was only ever going to be creature or ruri lol, like

What are you even talking about

Oh really yes because every single NK this game had been exactly what we predicted and nobody has ever gone huh wtf when day started.

obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:46 am I think Neon/NANOOK are town and Creature clear

My POE is probably Porscha/Falcon? I think Anne made a point that Jack shielded Falcon when he may not have necessarily needed to if Falcon was a villager. Plus I think the OP confirms the last mafia is 100% vanilla so the track may not matter as much

Intresting.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:53 am you aren't surprised nook didn't die?

I am kind of. But I don't think I'm as confused by that as say Creature.

Ruri makes sense in one way and one way only.

Creature and Obs have never had any substantial push on them Creature is outed town lol. Ruri had mild pressure.

Nook just doesn't feel as much of like a priority when I think about how I feel wolves would act here.

Critically we need to think why Ruri over

Me
Creature
Obs

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:01 am

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:06 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:56 am

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:53 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:54 pm When I'm gone just flip Porscha I think.

like there is no way we are w/w when wilgy was hard trying to get me flipped over him yesterday

However wrt this Wilgz only switched to you as my wagon dissolved and you became a second target. It didn't feel natural and if the two wagons bearing EoD are W/W and one of you is going over you almost are forced to push each other to make it look as close to good as you can the next day after all your gonna be in the spotlight thread made that really apparent.

that's true! But I think wilgy took advantage of the suspicion of me + creature not being around to kill ruri knowing I was still the one person most likely to be pushed today and it didnt matter if he flipped me yesterday to get to lylo (especially since he had the nook read on him being town)

I do think it looks almost too obvious which scares me but Wilgy looked too obvious and was a woof and we let him get away 3 days in a row.

Obviously not Creature

If I'm looking deep I'm looking at Obs but I don't think I can ever push Obs after that post today... forever pocketed.

I know I'm town obviously.

So that leaves me with a pool of 3.

ok out of me, falcon, nook, what are you thinking?

It'sbetween you and Falcon I'm currently on Falcon.

It's tough for me to see Nook wolf but a lot of that feeling is claim based not game play based.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:56 am

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:53 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:54 pm When I'm gone just flip Porscha I think.

like there is no way we are w/w when wilgy was hard trying to get me flipped over him yesterday

However wrt this Wilgz only switched to you as my wagon dissolved and you became a second target. It didn't feel natural and if the two wagons bearing EoD are W/W and one of you is going over you almost are forced to push each other to make it look as close to good as you can the next day after all your gonna be in the spotlight thread made that really apparent.

that's true! But I think wilgy took advantage of the suspicion of me + creature not being around to kill ruri knowing I was still the one person most likely to be pushed today and it didnt matter if he flipped me yesterday to get to lylo (especially since he had the nook read on him being town)

I do think it looks almost too obvious which scares me but Wilgy looked too obvious and was a woof and we let him get away 3 days in a row.

Obviously not Creature

If I'm looking deep I'm looking at Obs but I don't think I can ever push Obs after that post today... forever pocketed.

I know I'm town obviously.

So that leaves me with a pool of 3.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:31 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:54 pm When I'm gone just flip Porscha I think.

like there is no way we are w/w when wilgy was hard trying to get me flipped over him yesterday

However wrt this Wilgz only switched to you as my wagon dissolved and you became a second target. It didn't feel natural and if the two wagons bearing EoD are W/W and one of you is going over you almost are forced to push each other to make it look as close to good as you can the next day after all your gonna be in the spotlight thread made that really apparent.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:40 am @Neon I need your help to figure out last wolf pls assist

I mostly don't think you're a wolf and I'm willing to at least test bases elsewhere and see if we can find each other.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:07 pm

obscurity wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:06 pm Wilgs did really well. You can't imagine my relief last night my mom literally had to ask me if I was okay irl I couldn't stop smiling just happy I put my ego aside.

This is the cutest thing I've read all week

Truly <3

I'm really sorry about if I added anything during our argument that made anything less enjoyable Obs :/ glad your here ^^

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:26 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:04 pm In a world where me and Wilgz are TvT

What is the likelihood of something stupid like Porscha/Falc?

Tin foil time.

Porscha is POE.





Something stupid tinfoil-y would be like, Obs & Ruri

True that would be REALLY stupid.

In a world where me and Wilgz are TvT

What is the likelihood of something stupid like Porscha/Falc?

Tin foil time.

I think Anne was obv frowning pretty hard by the time the wagon formed and that town should have seen the obvious.

Reasons I scum read Wilgy

88 dead townies on the wall.

Hard defense of Jack

Anne flash wagon kills a town who was so obviously town at that point it broke my soul

Completely and utterly poor treatment of my slot very loudly silencing valid points I make by lying about what I've done

3 straight days as a counter wagon / lead wagon that we let go because ?????

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:14 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:10 pm I've explained this 48 times but I'll do it again.

If I don't TR you than I am considering you a potential threat to town so saying "give me a reason to TR you" is pretty in character no?

You never did though.

And again my argument of 'I play like x' is not an excuse for what I may perceive as scummy behavior.

By your own admission here you are stating the progression was
'Wilgy said he sees something scummy in my play'
'I call him a threat to town'
'How could he possibly see me calling him a threat to town after him seeing something scummy OMGUS'

That is so unbelievably not what I've said at all. But I'm used to you lying about my slot now and it's frustrating as fuck.

I've explained this 48 times but I'll do it again.

If I don't TR you than I am considering you a potential threat to town so saying "give me a reason to TR you" is pretty in character no?

You never did though.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:50 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:52 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:46 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:26 am yeah. wilgy is like my ole yeller

Was I a good boy Porscha...

No you killed a man. You stabbed him 37 times in the chest. That kills people.

Caaaaaarrrrrrrrlllllllll

Yay someone got it!

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 3:21 am

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:25 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 1:11 am yeah i'm down for anne or sabi which we going first

Honestly Anne because I hang expect that if they are woofers people are going to let them live forever for no reason.

this however is a weird response then to me, but I think I have a reason why she said it. neon, please explain why you push sabi so much until I asked which first and you chose anne over sabi?

Because at this point I very much thought both Anne and Sabi were scum and I very much believed that people would shield Anne on the basis of them being a good player because my experience here on Syndicate is that people will ignore obvious scummy behavior to keep people they like/ think are good alive even if they appear to be scum. See King of the Hill mafia and how someone who appeared obviously scummy survived far longer than they should have.

My opinion on the slot gradually changed to a full blown town read over the following period of time.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 2:06 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:49 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:39 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:25 am

obscurity wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:45 pm @DrWilgy

Re: Neon is there anyway you can do me a favor and check my ISO because I had a ton of interactions with them and I struggle to see their reaction to my push coming from a wolf. It really seemed like they believed their self.

Also try coming up with a solve with a POE of Ruri/Falcon/Porscha/NANOOK because if you're a villager this is the only thing I can work on in my head. Ruri/NANOOK don't work.

Obs. You realize that Wilgy is only pushing for my misexe because I have been pushing wolf Wilgy 3 days in a row NKing me would be career sepuku because I have exactly one thing to follow in death and I'm the easiest target to misexe because I'm inherently going to behave "wolfy" always.

Wilgy is a fucking fantastic player he can worm his way out of a misexe by appearing towny I've been told nothing but good things about his game. I'm not. Look at my wolf games, I'm not a loud wolf I'm quiet I'm methodical but I'm afraid to make noise. I'm making lots of noise here.

Every dead player wants Wilgy dead for 3 days straight. Do you believe in confidence? Because when something appears this wolfy it just IS this wolfy more often than not. I'll apologize profusely if I'm wrong but I don't think I'm wrong Iam very very confident.

Neon, I am pushing for you because it makes sense. If you could make the current gamestate make sense to me otherwise, I'd probably vote there all the same? You are and have been part of the PoE. You've discussed in measures that I really do find wolfy and even further found through obs ISO, you are both valid as a Jack and Sabi teammate.

I'm glad you have confidence, but what are your reads beyond me? Who is my teammate? If you are town, I flip town, what do you think is going to happen in lylo?

Vote for me, fine, elim me, fine, but at least hunt and not just bark down the same space without adding anything else if you are town.

1. How the fuck do I have wolf equity with Ssbi? Jack yes depending how seriously you take a joke, Sabi lmao no.

2. I don't look for pairings. If I did that I'd second guess every single thought in my head. You flip woof I move on from there, why do we need to look to the future? Kill the woof now than the future is the present and you solve there.

3. I did hunt. I found scum explained how they are scum and watched as they squirmed out of towns grasp multiple days in a row while town diedagain and again and again and every single town that died looked forth and said "Hey. Yo. Kill Wilgy." And yet you still stand before me trying to kill another town who's sitting here looking forth and saying "Hey. Yo. Kill Wilgy." Think they'll listen when I flip town and the woofs are in a 4 v 2? Kill you finally and it's a 3 v 1 with no idea who it could be? I'm not going to go play games with the future I need you to go over finally and if I don't push it town has shown they will let you free, again and again and again

1. I have not yet observed anything that clears you via Sabi. Obs also observed this as seen in his night 4 notes and the post following.

Spoiler: show

viewtopic.php?p=964008#p964008

obscurity wrote: ↑Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:47 pm Here are the best points against Neon:

1. They have kind of fallen off. I wanted to discuss stuff with them yesterday and they disappeared.

2. They gave a lazy townread on Jack early game for nothingsauce reasons and barely reviewed it

3. They made a read on Anne that was like, "I could see Anne killing Mac to seal the townread" which feels *easily* like that Neon herself could've done with Mac

4. No clearing interactions with Jack or Sabi. Sabi asking Neon why Anne was voting them early was super weird. This is also important because Jack and Sabi seemed to mostly be talking/appealing to villagers

5. Jack kept them in nulls then never looked at them again.

I will admit to currently being more familiar with Obs take on the subject as opposed to your ISO as I do intend on re reading it come tomorrow morning.

2. Because town have to hunt to find wolves? Town need to make these associations? We have 2 yeets to solve the game and you just seem not concerned at all about that.

3. I disagree. You've OMGUS'd me and that's all I've observed of your case on me. You've stuck to it and I haven't seen anything to indicate that you'd even bother looking outside of what's the immediate.

1. Explain why wolf Neon would pressure Sabi into a death early when they are A. Town read pretty heavily. B. Have a power role that is beneficial to woofs.

The woofers should have done everything they could to prevent that wagon until it was outed Sabi had 3 shots and died way to early. I along with Mac and eventually Anne produced that pelt but I am so easy to hand wave off that absolutely nobody gives a damn about my contribution

2. No they don't. There's many ways to find a wolf. I don't need to play the game you want when I can play the game I know. If you're woof than you want me to tell you who I think has equity with you so you can decide how much of a threat I pose to your team tomorrow. Do we need to kill Neon now has she solved the game should we silence her. I will evaluate and decide who I think needs to die after you the outed and obvious wolf finally die.

3. This is trash. I have never OMGUSed you. Get out of here with that. I have explained why you are scum so try to actually evaluate my slot and not keep lying about it.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:53 am Neon, see below. This was Day 4. I inquired hoping you'd elaborate and you provided the most meh ass answer I could've gotten from you.

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:03 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:44 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Oct 09, 2022 4:26 pm Neons wonderful town core

Neon
Porscha
Creature
Ruri

If your not in that list your on my list.

I'm much better at town reading than scum reading though and I need to reread basically everyone in this game and due to Overwatch 2 releasing and ruining my life I'm a day behind so ... sorry lol

Your tr list seems awfully thin tbh. You have only 3 tr since yourself doesn't count?

None of y'all are towny.

Sabi was already flipped at this point, but your super wide PoE somehow contained everyone except Creature and the Non-Present Ruri.

What are your thoughts on Creature/Ruri as it stands?

Creature is the most obvious town who ever towned anyone who shades the slot should die.

I tried to tinfoil Ruri. I can't. They are town...solely by claim but there is no reason to doubt that claim a doc probably exists in this setup they are un CCd and I have no reason to believe the real doc wouldn't have had them murderated by now.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:46 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:26 am yeah. wilgy is like my ole yeller

Was I a good boy Porscha...

No you killed a man. You stabbed him 37 times in the chest. That kills people.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:45 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:33 am

Neon did the same thing with me. I had pointed out what I think to be Neon's wolftell in not finding TRs

This take is bad I've had TRs this whole fucking game. Why are you so insistent on lying about it?

Anne was one of them and I'm very content with helping her achieve her dying wish after you somehow got town to pile her wagon for no reason whatsoever. But then town is actively throwing. I suppose that is on me I'm not good at persuasion when I find things. Even when I'm blindly glaringly obviously right and it keeps kicking us all in the face.

Neon, this is not a lie and your insistence on it being so either validates my claim or it means you are biting back without attempting to understand it. When I had pointed this out, you had 2 TR out of a remaining 10 players at least. I recall thinking 'Well that leaves a wide enough net for a wolf to go fishing with.' as a 8 player PoE is pretty garbage.

If you solve games by forming TRs. Which is fine, why am I to not expect more TRs out of you? Sure, Anne was a fine TR, you were correct. Outside of that, what TRs did you have? A good chunk of the thread apparently didn't agree with you on Anne, even those that wanted me gone as well chose to yeet Anne over me.

I don't need to have 87 town reads to have town reads.

Maybe if town would obv town I'd have more. But my history this game suggests I'm actually pretty damn good at what I do... sometimes.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:39 am

Neon wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:25 am

obscurity wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:45 pm @DrWilgy

Re: Neon is there anyway you can do me a favor and check my ISO because I had a ton of interactions with them and I struggle to see their reaction to my push coming from a wolf. It really seemed like they believed their self.

Also try coming up with a solve with a POE of Ruri/Falcon/Porscha/NANOOK because if you're a villager this is the only thing I can work on in my head. Ruri/NANOOK don't work.

Obs. You realize that Wilgy is only pushing for my misexe because I have been pushing wolf Wilgy 3 days in a row NKing me would be career sepuku because I have exactly one thing to follow in death and I'm the easiest target to misexe because I'm inherently going to behave "wolfy" always.

Wilgy is a fucking fantastic player he can worm his way out of a misexe by appearing towny I've been told nothing but good things about his game. I'm not. Look at my wolf games, I'm not a loud wolf I'm quiet I'm methodical but I'm afraid to make noise. I'm making lots of noise here.

Every dead player wants Wilgy dead for 3 days straight. Do you believe in confidence? Because when something appears this wolfy it just IS this wolfy more often than not. I'll apologize profusely if I'm wrong but I don't think I'm wrong Iam very very confident.

Neon, I am pushing for you because it makes sense. If you could make the current gamestate make sense to me otherwise, I'd probably vote there all the same? You are and have been part of the PoE. You've discussed in measures that I really do find wolfy and even further found through obs ISO, you are both valid as a Jack and Sabi teammate.

I'm glad you have confidence, but what are your reads beyond me? Who is my teammate? If you are town, I flip town, what do you think is going to happen in lylo?

Vote for me, fine, elim me, fine, but at least hunt and not just bark down the same space without adding anything else if you are town.

1. How the fuck do I have wolf equity with Ssbi? Jack yes depending how seriously you take a joke, Sabi lmao no.

2. I don't look for pairings. If I did that I'd second guess every single thought in my head. You flip woof I move on from there, why do we need to look to the future? Kill the woof now than the future is the present and you solve there.

3. I did hunt. I found scum explained how they are scum and watched as they squirmed out of towns grasp multiple days in a row while town diedagain and again and again and every single town that died looked forth and said "Hey. Yo. Kill Wilgy." And yet you still stand before me trying to kill another town who's sitting here looking forth and saying "Hey. Yo. Kill Wilgy." Think they'll listen when I flip town and the woofs are in a 4 v 2? Kill you finally and it's a 3 v 1 with no idea who it could be? I'm not going to go play games with the future I need you to go over finally and if I don't push it town has shown they will let you free, again and again and again

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:39 am who was that last post quoting neon lol

also yeah I dont think neon is wolf. I dont think wolf neon tunnels this hard

It was Wilgy he'sbeen saying it to shade me for a couple days now.

Neon did the same thing with me. I had pointed out what I think to be Neon's wolftell in not finding TRs

This take is bad I've had TRs this whole fucking game. Why are you so insistent on lying about it?

Anne was one of them and I'm very content with helping her achieve her dying wish after you somehow got town to pile her wagon for no reason whatsoever. But then town is actively throwing. I suppose that is on me I'm not good at persuasion when I find things. Even when I'm blindly glaringly obviously right and it keeps kicking us all in the face.

obscurity wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:59 pm I got much more heated than I wish I did against Neon. It wasn't a great night. But... that would be a pretty insane team by any standards

We are just the best at woof theatre obvs.

Like who had more thread pull me or any of the people that got NKd who were on Wilgy?

Who was a more viable misexe? Me or the NKs?

They are methodically silencing dissent in the easiest order possible.

obscurity wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:45 pm @DrWilgy

Re: Neon is there anyway you can do me a favor and check my ISO because I had a ton of interactions with them and I struggle to see their reaction to my push coming from a wolf. It really seemed like they believed their self.

Also try coming up with a solve with a POE of Ruri/Falcon/Porscha/NANOOK because if you're a villager this is the only thing I can work on in my head. Ruri/NANOOK don't work.

Obs. You realize that Wilgy is only pushing for my misexe because I have been pushing wolf Wilgy 3 days in a row NKing me would be career sepuku because I have exactly one thing to follow in death and I'm the easiest target to misexe because I'm inherently going to behave "wolfy" always.

Wilgy is a fucking fantastic player he can worm his way out of a misexe by appearing towny I've been told nothing but good things about his game. I'm not. Look at my wolf games, I'm not a loud wolf I'm quiet I'm methodical but I'm afraid to make noise. I'm making lots of noise here.

Every dead player wants Wilgy dead for 3 days straight. Do you believe in confidence? Because when something appears this wolfy it just IS this wolfy more often than not. I'll apologize profusely if I'm wrong but I don't think I'm wrong Iam very very confident.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 6:57 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:33 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:09 pm Like I should've just been the policy after my garbage ass jack play.



I just have to trust that y'all figure it out after me. I think the PoE and play pattern pointing to Neon still makes sense.

You should've went over when you were outed.

Good talk

Glad we could come to this agreement

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:09 pm Like I should've just been the policy after my garbage ass jack play.



I just have to trust that y'all figure it out after me. I think the PoE and play pattern pointing to Neon still makes sense.

You should've went over when you were outed.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:42 am

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:39 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:19 am

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:15 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:14 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:56 pm If we kill wilgy over my objections and he flips town I get to decide tomorrow lol

who is best counter wagon

I already know the answer to this

whomstve

He's gonna say me lol

I want nook to tell me who he wants to vote

I know. He will.

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:19 am

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:15 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:14 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:56 pm If we kill wilgy over my objections and he flips town I get to decide tomorrow lol

who is best counter wagon

I already know the answer to this

whomstve

He's gonna say me lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:14 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:56 pm If we kill wilgy over my objections and he flips town I get to decide tomorrow lol

who is best counter wagon

I already know the answer to this

Neon wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 12:53 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 9:45 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:29 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:13 pm

obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 10:44 am @Schiavetto why did you decide to park on Lucy + not participate?

@falcon45ca is inactivity is usually your scum meta why are you town here?

It's normal to assume I could be Maf here, I've no objection to sus on my slot. It's well deserved.



I'm town here cuz' of the rand.

Solid 10/10 defense.

But everytime I think Falcon is scum Falcon is town so we 180 my read and Falcon is town.

Had Neon posted a scum read in my slot before this?



Interesting she doesn't seem to care that I'm being sussed for inactivity here...tho she thinks that type of read is scummy.

That's not why I called you scum lol.

Good god.

Also i actually called you town here and meant it.

Because my read on you is usually wrong.

But what I was actually scum reading you for was a post before this where you said something along the lines of "I'm usually scum but I'm not this time" and than you followed that up with "I'm town cause of the rand even though I'm usually scum"

It has nothing to do with activity it has everything to do with your approach to yourself. Because I've spent too many games town reading statements like these and than they flip scum. It happens more than they flip town and I'm in love with probabilities.

I didn't read a damn thing into your activity you did and obscurity did. I read into your words.

Falcon your case on me is bad.

It boils down to activity which is bad and there's a reason for my activity.

And "lol look where she ends up" which is also just bad because

A. When i voted these wagons they were viable.

B. I missed EoD and can't consolidate

C. This is just another form of scum reading me for activity.

I've been trying hard in my limited time in thread to solve. Really hard. Wilgy is so obviously scum it hurts and if town let's him go 4 days in a row I think we just lose