The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:51 pm Leaves SK in 112, Brad, Lily, Falc.

Wolves in 112/(Doki/Nook)/LC

Gratz Abigail, you're the one true town core.

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:46 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:40 pm

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:33 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:28 pm

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:21 pm i recant my read on abigail btw.

What was this read?

that abigail could be SK

Why?

mostly i just bought your AtE

i'm also not in much condition to play for the night so tapping out

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:33 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:28 pm

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:21 pm i recant my read on abigail btw.

What was this read?

that abigail could be SK

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:21 pm i recant my read on abigail btw.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:08 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:21 pm

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:03 am now with doki and i over our little spat:

i'm getting SK vibes from Abigail. she seems very interested in getting it across to the thread that she outed a wolf when nobody's really picking on her at all.

Am I not allowed to be annoyed that for the first time in my life I actually put effort into a case and did so correctly and fucking Sean gets N1d over me...

Sean... over me...

Wdym Sean was obvtown and was cop

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:52 pm

dokidoki wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:47 pm I was under the impression that if the SK picked strongman all of their kills were strongmanned?

Either way, I feel like this game is going to become one where I just hope everybody else is right

I'll sit on that

Ah, I had to re read it. Seems that you are correct.

Welp, I'm effectively useless in solving sk then. THOUGH it did just occur to me if @☆Princess Abigail☆ (how the hell am I supposed to tag you?) neighborizes me with Lily in there to discuss the yeet results prior to me needing to submit the jail, I may be able to use it to hit w.

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:02 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 3:00 pm

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:26 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:22 pm

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:04 am

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:03 am now with doki and i over our little spat:

i'm getting SK vibes from Abigail. she seems very interested in getting it across to the thread that she outed a wolf when nobody's really picking on her at all.

add to that a lot of fluffposting and i think the slot looks somewhat worse than it's being treated.

Please go read any game I've ever been in. Thank you

no

Kay kill a town for shit reasons than

where did this come from?

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:26 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:22 pm

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:04 am

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:03 am now with doki and i over our little spat:

i'm getting SK vibes from Abigail. she seems very interested in getting it across to the thread that she outed a wolf when nobody's really picking on her at all.

add to that a lot of fluffposting and i think the slot looks somewhat worse than it's being treated.

Please go read any game I've ever been in. Thank you

no

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:04 am

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:03 am now with doki and i over our little spat:

i'm getting SK vibes from Abigail. she seems very interested in getting it across to the thread that she outed a wolf when nobody's really picking on her at all.

add to that a lot of fluffposting and i think the slot looks somewhat worse than it's being treated.

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:03 am now with doki and i over our little spat:

i'm getting SK vibes from Abigail. she seems very interested in getting it across to the thread that she outed a wolf when nobody's really picking on her at all.

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:00 am

dokidoki wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:59 am

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:55 am

dokidoki wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:54 am Oops, I fell asleep gm

I'm a bit jealous you get to meet Lumi in person, Abigail! I'd ask you to tell them I said hi but they wouldn't know who "dokidoki" is, probably.

I'm still not quite sure what the case against 112 is but given I townread most of the people on them I might just shrug it off and assume I'm missing something

wolfy post

I humbly request a free wolfy post pass as I just got out of bed

Seriously though, I still want to kill falcon but it seems like half the game is deciding that falcon cannot be mafia for reasons I disagree with, I think nanook is outed but the loudest players don't seem to care

I don't have the energy to outpost or overrule players like Abigail or lily

I don't really know what to do given all of that

fair enough. request granted. we will butt heads later instead.

dokidoki wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:54 am Oops, I fell asleep gm

I'm a bit jealous you get to meet Lumi in person, Abigail! I'd ask you to tell them I said hi but they wouldn't know who "dokidoki" is, probably.

I'm still not quite sure what the case against 112 is but given I townread most of the people on them I might just shrug it off and assume I'm missing something

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:45 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:30 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:10 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:35 pm Late D1 from my #385 (~12 hr before EoD)

Lime Coke (1): Falcon45ca
Seanzie (1): DrWilgy
Porscha (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, nutella, Seanzie
Falcon45ca (3): Lime Coke, lilypetal, Porscha
☆Princess Abigail☆ (1): 112
112 (2): MartinGG99, ☆Princess Abigail☆
Not Voting (1): dokidoki

D1 EoD

falcon45ca (4): Lime Coke, dokidoki, Porscha, lilypetal
MartinGG99 (4): falcon45ca, ☆Princess Abigail☆, nutella, Seanzie
☆Princess Abigail☆ (2): 112
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (1): DrWilgy
Porscha (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
112 (1): MartinGG99

Why are you coloring sean and co. green?

Nanomachines, son!

What does that mean

I'm actually asking why they're colored green here, pls answer

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:44 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:25 pm I'm actually kind of annoyed I didn't get N1d when I nailed a wolf D1... like...wtf...

Maf killing lawyer n1 is borderline gamethrowing in most permutations lol

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:43 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:13 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 1:26 pm abigail and I solved the game like all night so none of these flips are too surprising to me

I am at Lumi's house so like don't expect a lot from me today but I'm hoping Lily has explained what we went through lol

Hype af

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 11:33 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:20 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:45 pm Immediate observations,
Lily is cleared by rb + 3 kills.
Abigail is cleared by both voting right next to Martin and confirming the flip.
112 looks good enough by Martin's vote.

Wolfs in LC, Nook, 112, dokidoki

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

Okay so last night I was hard on Nook in the hood but....I kinda town read Nooks posting today :/

What do you find that's different today?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:45 pm Immediate observations,
Lily is cleared by rb + 3 kills.
Abigail is cleared by both voting right next to Martin and confirming the flip.
112 looks good enough by Martin's vote.

Wolfs in LC, Nook, 112, dokidoki

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:15 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:03 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 1:48 pm I holstered last night, none of the kills are mine

Why did you holster?

A) I didn't declare a target b) makes more sense to save my protection for a night when the rest of the protective roles aren't around too and c) I'm not 100% sure I counted right but I think if every kp went off and Martin was town we could've potentially lost last night lol.

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 1:26 pm abigail and I solved the game like all night so none of these flips are too surprising to me

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:57 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:52 am The following effort shall hence be known as the one time Abigail bothered to open an ISO pls send help I hate this.

Spoiler: show

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:40 am I suppose as courtesy I should note that I've been aware of the game but I've not really been paying attention to it since a massive posts haven't been made and I've been thoroughly enjoying Baldurs Gate 3 among other things.

I'll be here to give this game my focus in like 9-10 hours. Also, now checking on it, there doesn't seem to be a clearly defined posting requirement. Unless there's like a site-wide rule now or something about that.

As far as I can tell this is the only post that appears to mention busyness. I can't blame Martin for putting BG3 before mafia I mean like who wouldn't.

What I don't like is the promise of game focus that just kind of never happens. This iso is 9 posts at 3? hours to EoD and he's flying under the radar. No bueno.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:39 pm Wilgy like (early energy I liked a fair bit)
Limecoke like (p#161 in particular)

falcon semi-like (I like the callout of the half-serious read but he walks back his SR after the defense of it, when I think the defense wasn't all that great)
Nanook semi-like (#202 kinda lines up where I was at that point, idk where the porscha thing came from they're just null imo)
seanzie semi-semi-like (I have the slightest feeling that #270 and #271 are towny since he sorta just implicitly/indirectly shrugs on himself but then calls it good strategy, a thing I don't think a wolf would do)

112 semi-dislike (defense of half-serious read bugs me, calls it a natural thing that towns do instead of exemplifying that it is solvy or something to that effect. Doki doki makes valid point about #80 being kinda towny though)
nutella semi-dislike

the rest I don't really have an opinion on

Lily
Porscha
Abigail
doki doki

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:01 pm Oh god I signed up for flipless, lord help me

it's gonna be even more wonderful if the poisoner, trapper, SK, and mafia all land a kill n1

Ideally not all of that happens, as there are a few ways to stop each of those, but I see plenty of chances for a scuffed gamestate given the flipless (which may be better thought of as a free unpreventable and unstoppable super-janitor of all alignments for the mafia's sake; some roles can help with that but it relies on trusting those roles)

This entire reads list is just a WHOLE bunch of words that amount to hedge reads on every slot mentioned with no substance. -1

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:40 pm I know I don't have a tidbit on Nutella. I just haven't played with them in ages, and I haven't seen anything to suggest they're town to me.

Unnecessary shade post while excusing their read if it's wrong because "silly me it's been so long"

If Martin is wolf bet bet Nutella is IC

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:47 pm I missed Nanook's elaboration on the porscha read, and I see where its coming from but I rather not have faith in a probability read based on some broad-ish behavior.

Porcha's also the tracker. I'd say that's worth a night's wait at least.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

I've noticed a little bit that Martin is completely unwilling to close the door to anything. The vote on 112 is less wolfy I think they were at one and it was me.

What I don't like is that this post is like basically hedging on Porscha much like they've done elsewhere it's saying well give her a day but also maybe she's a wolf. No bueno.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:58 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:54 pm Why don't you have an opinion on me?

a lot of your posts are preety thin + I don't know you from the past (at least, I don't think so, maybe I've seen your name once before but I can't recall)

and I just haven't gotten around to figuring how I should engage you and others in order to solve

I really really hate this post because lily is like the main driving force of content in this game and I don't believe for one second that someone could at this point in the game not have a read on her.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:04 pm Sean, I am paranoid of you. That's why I wanted to get the slightest pointer one way or another so I can rest my mind lol.

I still recall that one game where you poked and semi-pushed me really early, and I thought you were wolf for it, and was correct about it but ended up changing my mind till it was too late and you just nuked everyone. I think it was that avatar/airbender game?

Meh? I feel like Sean is an easy push to make and like I am not a fan of how they are going about it.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:13 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:04 pm Sean, I am paranoid of you. That's why I wanted to get the slightest pointer one way or another so I can rest my mind lol.

I still recall that one game where you poked and semi-pushed me really early, and I thought you were wolf for it, and was correct about it but ended up changing my mind till it was too late and you just nuked everyone. I think it was that avatar/airbender game?

Also reanimators.

Wait have I been misremembering the whole time?

Seems I was remembering the beginning of reanimators and the end ending of Atla as one game. Which is weird.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:26 pm For several games I was thinking of it as Atla but I never actually checked smh.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:04 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:47 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:47 pm I missed Nanook's elaboration on the porscha read, and I see where its coming from but I rather not have faith in a probability read based on some broad-ish behavior.

Porcha's also the tracker. I'd say that's worth a night's wait at least.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

It's specific to her so not really that broad imo

Also have really high success rate at correctly tring her when she's town so

Tracker also not on the shortlist of roles to not kill d1 anyways

I suppose so if its more of a meta-specific thing. Thought it was broad as in like you'd foreseeably could apply to any other potential wolves. For some reason I didn't recall this sooner, but I have to ask @Seanzie if he was actually BSing about his read accuracy on Porscha in that recent wolf game or if he actually has that.

As for stuff not to kill d1, for me its largely just whatever adds information to the game or otherwise prevents death that shouldn't be instantly thrown out.

I think that ends up being a list of like, just thinking about the roles in isolation,

Wilgy (jailkeeper)
Lime (doctor)
Lily (coroner)*
Seanzie (delayed cop)*
Nutella (watcher)
Porscha (tracker)

Stuff with * is stuff that could be fake-able without much issue so idk about them. Which is only half or a third of the players in the game depending on how you take it.

Meh this is like okay I think

My conclusion is that Martin hedges on almost every read they make and keeps the doors open for pushes into everyone even his town reads. His flow in the game seems to be following the thread into sus on the slots that are gaining traction or others have mentioned feeling bad about.

ftr I did not see this post before I voted, and I still haven't opened the spoiler.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:33 am

Spoiler: show

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:08 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 3:33 am ]I guess maybe I'll bother doing this since I'm bored and don't want to do my job and I'm feeling a little better

Thanks lily I love you I miss you uwu and stuff



It's Abigail's super awesome I'm so good at mafia legacy list extraordinaire. Starring me the cutest to ever do it.



First up the best flavor of Coke ever.

Lime Coke - wells wells wells Bread is town as ever. I mean I largely found bread off the aggro but I think since than his defense of Porscha and general attitude is just like towny. Town Core and move on with your life.




Next up

nutella - This peanut butter rip off was a hard nut to Crack. God I'm so funny. Anyways I have a power read that the first line super big in thread back and forth blow up is ALWAYS town vs town. And I know what you're thinking. Abigail this read is dumb but go read like champs G1 Clouds vs The X where I used this read. Or SPF vs Twice Shrunk in some game I don't remember where I used this read. Or Achro vs someone in some game I don't remember where I used this read or Caitlin vs someone in a few games where I used this read. Or... anyways also I actually do just kinda feel like Nuts solving is the best in this game right now and that they actually care about searching for alignment through their play instead of just pushing empty. Town Core and move on



Next up

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - do I have a good reason to town lean nook? Uh not really actually. I kinda was just basing the read off general early vibes and similar feelings about the game and flipless and set up and... yeah honestly Nook can probs be scum? Fuck if I know. I won't cry if Nook dies and I wouldn't be shocked either way



Next!

MartinG99 - I honestly don't remember much. I know Martin has made some big posts I read through but they didn't make me feel warm and fuzzy in my tum tum. They made me feel bored and lonely in my head. Scum lean.



Okay get in line. Next...

Seanzie - meh like they've been active? And it's been okay? But also like they are asking for a D3 pass? And that's pretty not okay? So kill them I guess? But like meh? Scum lean.



Next...

Lilypetal - lily was the first to move the game forward towards a solve in a meaningful way IMHO her solving is real and she's not pushing an agenda but trying to find players. Good good yes. She is trying to keep the thread in a positive place and pushing towards a solution to the game. Yes yes. She lock town just set it and forget it.



Next...lols Porschas name is misspelled in the player list

Proscha - town cause like frustration is towny. I do think she genuinely feels like falcon is bad and nobody is trying to solve that even though like he's top wagon. I don't like fully disagree. Also read what I said about T v T fights early in the Nutella run down. Copy paste. Lock it in and move on town cccccore.



Next

falcon45ca - I dunno bruh like Falcon is so hard for me to read and honestly I'm fine killing him I don't have a good reason other than I simply do not town read him. I think his play feels like it did in the first game I saw wolf falcon where half the game was calling him outed wolf and half the game was hard defending him and one player was hard pushing getting annoyed and getting extremely frustrated... kill with impunity.



Next

☆Princess Abigail☆ - I'm in my town meta



Next

112 - the omgus naked vote on me never comes from a wolf. Like a wolf wants to stay alive andthey would fake a case on me... it wouldn't even be that hard. Town lean.



Next

dokidoki - my mason is towny AF pure and goated. Read the posts show me the agenda. Show me the baddddd I don't see it. So pure so town so real. Town Core it bb.



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DrWilgy - I dunno like I feel like wolf Wilgy would be just burned out after Cyberpunk I feel like the posts are fine but I'm not like feeling anything from them. I wanna town lean Wilgy but part of that is just cause I do that with people I consider my friends when I'm not sure I dunno you tell me



I'm wrong on 1 max in town core in most cases

Everything else is like much more swingywhen it comes to me

I like this post a lot, but why are you saying you cant read falcon well when you've said in some other semi recent games, as both alignments, that you're really good at reading falcon? Where did this change come from?

Define semi recent? Cause I haven't said that since he snowed me twice in a row and that was like a few months ago.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:11 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:42 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:38 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:18 am Okies but like... why are we not just killing Martin though?

eh

Like... his content is just there... it's just kinda lacking... this is not the Martin I remember.

Is there a reason I shouldn't think this?

I also dont really remember what his posts entailed but I felt more null than like, scummy vibes? I feel like maybe he mentioned he was posting less cuz of something irl so my brain just put him to the side. I wonder if that actually happened or if I'm thinking of Sean's thing

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:38 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 4:18 am Okies but like... why are we not just killing Martin though?

eh