The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:12 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:11 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:05 pm Abi, while you’re here and obviously not busy, talk to me about Sig wowee

Uh Mac and Seanzie wagons succ so I'm voting the next biggest wagon I don't explicitly town read

Do you have any scumreads or nah?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:05 pm Abi, while you’re here and obviously not busy, talk to me about Sig wowee

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:04 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:17 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:20 am Sean, you were AFK, how could anyone interact with you?

Also Abi dipped after complaining and receiving from me a subject to talk about.

Inb4 she fell asleep, but still.. :/

I'm on a date lol

Give your date a smootch and tell em it was from Jack.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:35 pm While I am voting Mac, I really don't like how the wagons today have become me/Mac.

Very bad D1 wagons, lemme tell you.

Can we do Lime instead? I'd also consider Scotty, or maybe even Epi.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:36 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:32 pm Just got to page 6 and I am pretty bored already

I think Michelle, Lime Coke and Princess Abigail are my top townreads.

Chelsea is kinda towny, but not by much.

I am unimpressed by Dunnstral, Manny and falcon45ca.

Mac and Seanzie looked the worst.

Maybe I would add Scotty with Chelsea.

He seems towny, but not as obvious as Michelle, Lime Coke and Princess Abigail.

Though, if Princess Abigail is Neon they might be pretty good at faking tone here.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:07 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:17 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:20 am Sean, you were AFK, how could anyone interact with you?

Also Abi dipped after complaining and receiving from me a subject to talk about.

Inb4 she fell asleep, but still.. :/

I'm on a date lol

So before your date you came here complaining for inactivity?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:07 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:12 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:41 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:40 pm Something something, Brad, something.

Now THIS.

THIS is some towny shit

Unironically agree

What?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:06 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:16 am

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:04 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:03 pm Thanks for the reminder.

Everyone gets a maximum of 100 posts per day phase. This will lift an hour prior to the poll deadline.

Ugh this is gonna be quite painful

but maybe I won't get to 100-post anyway

Just don't wagon me D1 because it's like the hardest day for me to handle

My reads D1 are prob going to be shit, they take some new flips to adjust

I tunnel you every game so I'm gonna try not to do this for once

But I hate this opening... send help

Seems like you have issues with my playstyle, not my actual alignment.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:57 pm

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:52 pm If you look at all the "active players" at any moment in this thread and think "they're all town" then you're either a huge sucker, or non-town yourself.

Oh yeah

I'd be pretty concerned if I were townreading all the active players unless it was like early game

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:20 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:14 am Thread needs to be less dead

This is a weird view to have especially at the time you made it.

Very defeatist attitude.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:20 am Sean, you were AFK, how could anyone interact with you?

Also Abi dipped after complaining and receiving from me a subject to talk about.

Inb4 she fell asleep, but still.. :/

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:30 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:07 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:43 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:32 am I dunno what to do to generate discussion but I do think it's necessary here

Not really, let the players to catch up, the post cap is a real blessing for busy players.

If you want to ask anything, just do it, otherwise a silent thread it's not a bad one per se.

A silent thread benefits only wolfs

You voted me without any reasons so maybe now would be a good time to expand on that rather than complaining that nobody is talking.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:26 am Let's talk about the wagons Abigail

LanMisa wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:07 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:07 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:43 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:32 am I dunno what to do to generate discussion but I do think it's necessary here

Not really, let the players to catch up, the post cap is a real blessing for busy players.

If you want to ask anything, just do it, otherwise a silent thread it's not a bad one per se.

A silent thread benefits only wolfs

Or the ones of us who are busy with life as well and only got time to glance a look on occasion!

While I do understand the statement....what do you think the issue is, here? Are the wolves the low-/no-posting players? Are wolves in the middle and just content with the status quo? Are the wolves top-posters who run out of stuff to say due to the higher number of barely-shows?

I personally don't think that this game is in danger yet due to the heavy emphasis on mechanics, as far as I can tell; I've also been in games where too many posts ended up drowning out the really important discussions and nobody backread the clusterfuck of pages which ALSO heavily helped wolves. I'd personally love to see a few more interactions from the low-posters but... many other players feel rather readable already. But maybe that's just me.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:43 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:32 am I dunno what to do to generate discussion but I do think it's necessary here

Not really, let the players to catch up, the post cap is a real blessing for busy players.

If you want to ask anything, just do it, otherwise a silent thread it's not a bad one per se.

LanMisa wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:16 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:14 am Thread needs to be less dead

I mean, it's early morning in Europe, the Americans are asleep and we have quite a few low-posters, including a non-poster.

Any thoughts on the game that differ a lot from your earlier reads list? Something you want to discuss? Or do you have something to help me figure out the players I am unsure of as of now?

LanMisa wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:03 am Okay, I did some catch-up with the night posts, here are my thoughts:

- Mac is... giving me mixed vibes. Similar to Scotty and Chelsea he came in with a strong push/approach, but... it feels a bit different. More aggressive and destructive instead of productive? I'm not sure if this is just a tonal thing since he did come around changing stances on Manny as far as I can tell AND he also looked in more than one way (like at Scotty and me, not just at Manny), but... I dunno, I will have to let it simmer for a bit longer.

- I did read Mac's post on this type of play apparently being Epi's regular M.O. and I will take your word for it, especially since Scotty also backed it up. I do hope to see more explanation for reads on the billboards as well and... well, I said what I had to say about gimmicks.

- Not sure if Seanzie had given a reason as for why they can't play more but them not coming back after what I consider a very meh opening is a bad look in my eyes.

[VOTE: Seanzie ] aubergine

- Sig had a weird entrance and I need to reread it a bit later with more clarity in mind. Long Con jumping immediately on these posts for readbuilding instead of all the other pages with more meaningful interactions has been noted. Long Con, would you say that you prefer real-time interactions over backreading, or what else made you focus on these things especially?

- I see Dunnstral posting but the posts still don't stick in my mind and I wonder if that's a me thing. Definitely on the reread pile.

- Abigail quoting my earlier impression post of hers but not my townread(s) on her is making me sad.

Since Chelsea asked: I don't know how to read either Dunn or Jack, only played with Jack in mashes from what I remember and I left figuring out my fellow SMT enjoyer to the crowd, usually.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:25 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:20 am Scotty being so defensive of his scum game and Brad's take on it is imho enough to core that because I feel a wolf just rides that wave and plays to the style bread says he expects

Really? I consider denying townreads to be Basic Wolf 101.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:40 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:38 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:57 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:49 pm I wanna townread Abi for having like 60 posts before I showed up and also mindmelding with me/Scotty on actually reading Seanzie town for his something bomething posts.

The only reason I'm not is like....what does scum Abi even look like?

Here’s one for you, one that I think about from time to time: (neon)

This game is not indicative of my scum play when I'm not WiMless and demotivated

Do you have a more recent/relevant example?

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:15 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:37 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:33 am Linking activity with towniness when people come from different time zones is not what I will trust as an actual thought

The activity isn't why holy shit

I explained why they are towny where did I say it was based on activity

Not a fan of this response

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:59 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:52 pm Anyways, again, if anyone wants to give me some opinions on the last 9 pages or so, then I'll keep their thoughts in mind on first read-through.

Mac called me town leader while also saying he does trust me, so I guess I’ll try and summarize what I see with as little coloring as I can.

-Chelsea and Manny had a bit of a spat?
-mac is here and has only made 1 poop joke.
-almost everyone seems to townread Michelle apparently
-Lime Coke has declared I’m town, not gonna fight that fact anymore.
-Dunnstral has provided reads with reasons and is seemingly sheeping me
-Princess Abigail is bored and is trying to usurp me by getting to post cap first
-creature is gonna slank until things get interesting
-profit

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:13 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:18 am I will not vote creature

I will not vote creature

Creature has the worst entrance but I will not vote creature

Creature entrance was very weird? Honestly it was so weird I wanna town read them lol

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:55 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:49 pm Also kind request to drop the skill issue meme.
It's not funny, it doesn't bring anything to the game and on top of that it's insulting if you look at it literally.

There's no reasoning with people who find that meme funny. Unfortunately I have come to realise that generationally they are broken. We ruined the kids Michelle.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:22 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 pm That is to say you felt the pressure to do what you think a town would do, except in a not townie way?

That ... sounds like a wolf claim my guy.

and what are you gonna do about it?.

I'm going to vote for a wolf.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:16 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:20 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:17 am 1. My feeling is most of the mafia have yet to post.

2. [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Ama.

Adding numbers

1. Why?

2. Why?

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:36 am

Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:39 am I do apologize you're right it would be a bit boring if you just did what I asked without a second glance. But, you're supposed to carry me why else would I join?

I can vaguely compromise on carrying each other, but i like sheeping more than i like leading

Dunnstral why do u think im mafia?.

I still only townread Brad and Scottie, this probably means im skill issueing in the formation of new reads, but it is what it is.
Maybe i should sheep the consensus and lazily call Mich town.

Why would you do such thing?

Townread just about everywhere that had posted. LC wasn't even that scummy. Nobody was really howling. Quite a few people had yet to post. Seems logical.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:57 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:49 pm I wanna townread Abi for having like 60 posts before I showed up and also mindmelding with me/Scotty on actually reading Seanzie town for his something bomething posts.

The only reason I'm not is like....what does scum Abi even look like?

Here’s one for you, one that I think about from time to time: (neon)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:49 pm I wanna townread Abi for having like 60 posts before I showed up and also mindmelding with me/Scotty on actually reading Seanzie town for his something bomething posts.

The only reason I'm not is like....what does scum Abi even look like?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:35 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:47 pm Bomething Romething Aomething Domething

I do actually townread this. Sorry wolves. Cry harder.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:11 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:36 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:32 am

Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 am Thanks for the fish.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:47 pm Fuck it Scotty can be town.

Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?

I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.

Oh hi.

Well combine it with the post going after Michelle and you probably saw already I found him being aggressive early to be town indicative of Scotty.

I actually didn't read the second sentence idk why.

I'm flat out holding it since I believe in my read on Scotty.

Plus literally need something out of this shitty SOD.

God I wanna be wolf in a game with you so I can just absolutely snow you

LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:08 pm

Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 am Thanks for the fish.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:47 pm Fuck it Scotty can be town.

Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?

I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.

Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:23 am

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:29 am brad can be town, so can scotty.

thats all i got ill be back later prolly, @Chelsea where u at im here just to be carried

Hello Manny, you forced me to join this so wouldn't it be you who has to carry me? I'm disappointed.

However, you could join me in voting Abigail if you're really insistent on me carrying you.

I like this inquisitive start from Chelsea. I didn't get the feeling that the mechanics post itself was what caused the town read though, unless I either misread/misunderstood the sequence or if my bias of townleaning Scott myself got between me and Lime's post.

I do kinda agree that the Abigail posts I have seen so far (up to the quoted post) are mostly filler though.

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:52 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:15 pm

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:09 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 12:06 pm I'll say that the quick meta town read from Dunn looks TMI-ish to me.

Well that's not what happened as I've said.

Do you have reads on everyone who posted?



The post count in this moment

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Who posted - Fallout New Vegas: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [DAY 1] - 273 replies
User NamePosts
☆Princess Abigail☆62
Lime Coke46
Dunnstral30
Scotty29
Michelle27
Chelsea14
Manny12
falcon45ca11
Seanzie11
Long Con8
MacDougall8
JaggedJimmyJay7
Creature4
Epignosis3
Justplayingitcool1
TonyStarkPrime1

@DarlingMonroe
@Jackofhearts2005
@LanMisa
@sig
The game started, come play!

Towny:
☆Princess Abigail☆
Lime Coke
Michelle


Scummy:
Manny
Macdougall


The rest I'm either in the middle or have no opinion on.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:38 am

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:26 am What is your reasoning for that vote?

Does paranoia count, or do I need like DNA evidence or sumfin'?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:49 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:12 am And to all who didn't greet me, a pox on your houses

Jokes on you, I LOVE pox.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:17 am My feeling is most of the mafia have yet to post.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Ama.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:13 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:55 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:06 am Where is @MacDougall ?

I have to work, but when I come back I want your reads, sir!

Also @LanMisa how are you? I hope you have time to play this game

If Mac doesn't call me town he's wolfing

I was going to.

Still am, but I also was going to.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:11 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:29 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:21 am M-m-m-mafia

Mac!!!!!! Hiiii!!!

Hello Abi. A pleasure as always indeed.

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:14 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:09 am

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:53 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:50 am

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:42 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:33 am Linking activity with towniness when people come from different time zones is not what I will trust as an actual thought

There's a real inclination to townread players who are posting more and assume that mafia must be among the less active players. It's a psychological phenomenon... and has to do with naively townreading people based of "vibes" when in reality they could easily make these posts as mafia


Not to say I never townread based on how I feel about a player on day 1, but you have to pick and choose what you think is actually indicative of town.

Once again that has nothing to do with what I said

How so? Also this was in response to Michelle.

Which was about me yes

And you've said town is active and wolves are not posting.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:06 am Where is @MacDougall ?

I have to work, but when I come back I want your reads, sir!

Also @LanMisa how are you? I hope you have time to play this game

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:57 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:52 am Also why is it impossible that all of us are town?

Because in 18 players what is mafia doing if everyone posting at one moment is town?
Mafia needs thread presence, otherwise they're boxed in the Poe easily

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:56 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:52 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:45 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:39 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:37 am What I'm saying is the wolfs are not currently active

Ebwop I hate mobile phones

I don't think so.
I take this a towny from you though.

Why is it towny for me when I don't think I've ever used this read before

It's not a meta read.
People saying the thread feels towny have the intent to solve many players at once. This is hard to back track on if you are mafia.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:51 am Now my hydra partners can get along.

Sorry, if Chelsea is towny she is mafia. If I don't have an urge to chop her, I mean.
I am also sure she knows how to pocket you, so there's that

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:53 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:50 am

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:42 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:33 am Linking activity with towniness when people come from different time zones is not what I will trust as an actual thought

There's a real inclination to townread players who are posting more and assume that mafia must be among the less active players. It's a psychological phenomenon... and has to do with naively townreading people based of "vibes" when in reality they could easily make these posts as mafia


Not to say I never townread based on how I feel about a player on day 1, but you have to pick and choose what you think is actually indicative of town.

Once again that has nothing to do with what I said

How so? Also this was in response to Michelle.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:45 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:39 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:37 am What I'm saying is the wolfs are not currently active

Ebwop I hate mobile phones

I don't think so.
I take this a towny from you though.