The Syndicate

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 7:46 pm @Lilypetal

I'm sorry queen, can we start over?

would you like to attempt masonry with me again?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:57 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:51 pm Lily insists to me that she has a noticeable tonal gap between her alignments. But I usually struggle to find it early. Here, I feel like I hear it, it's a bit overly performative, lily accuses robyn of lazy power wolfing but I dont know how she can think that. Lily also said this page to robyn that she has been tr'ing me, but it wasnt more than 1 or 2 pages back I had to say to lily that at least robyn had the decency to note that I town told, whether it was tmi or not, and I argued with lily about whether she thinks I have been confident, expressing conflicting opinions with others, and making reads, and she tried to pretend like I wasnt doing all of those things when I objectively was. And then turns around and tells robyn she has been tr'ing me. Lol like... no you havent...

The last time I played with wolf!lily I thought she was town until she slipped or whatever happened, I think you were also a wolf in that game? And I suspected you but retracted it for flimsy reasons because I didn't want to deal with it lol.
Anyway, I digress, I meant to say I don't think lily has a noticeable tonal gap early in the game but it shows up later.

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:20 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:16 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:12 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:09 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:07 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:04 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:51 pm

to better respond to this and the above porscha post. me and lily have hard disagreed and been t/t before. adapt 6 on mu is a prime example where we were both slinging nonsense. so yes she's in town range, there's nothing i can reasonably read her off. i will advocate to off her. but i'm not gonna call her a wolf necessarily cause i don't have any proof and i don't sr her as i've said before

@Porscha

why is v!robyn so terrified to wolfread me xd

i don't have reason to, and i pulled up a meta example of us suspecting one another incorrectly the entire game, your posts continue to not make any sense. i don't think i've ever been described as terrified to do anything as any alignment? like you know me very well and continue to play in bad faith and weirdly not understand me

don't care

your posts towards me are weird and not in good faith either, just stop talking about me and if you're town ill find u eventually but the more you pointlessly say my name the more im going to want to kill you

i ought to ask the simple question; how have i treated you in bad faith? i'm explicitly not scumreading you for what i find to be very bad play that's unlike what i usually see from lily, is that not good faith?

i will stop talking to you though, i'm going to nap, get some sleep and produce some half decent content

mindlessly saying ive made shit content/shit takes the whole game and it's just like bruh my content is literally fine get off lmao

it’s not good content, half the things you say are simply wrong. then when i refuted pretty much your entire sus of me you just called me cringe and didn’t read it. marmot and porscha who are people besides me have just called you out for saying blatantly wrong things. furthermore i’m literally the top poster besides abbie and if anyone bothers to iso me they’ll see that i’ve been solving this entire time and that i’ve taken stances and opinions on nearly everything that’s happened this game, so calling my play mindless is another reason why you aren’t reading my posts or treating me in good faith

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:15 pm @Lilypetal I've only read the exchange in the above post from robyn, but how have they been treating you in bad faith. I don't see it in that exchange.

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:12 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:09 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:07 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:04 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:51 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:48 pm if lily does not improve, i will tell scotty to off her, if she does improve i will tell scotty to let her live. i believe i said this, but i'll say it again more explicitly

to better respond to this and the above porscha post. me and lily have hard disagreed and been t/t before. adapt 6 on mu is a prime example where we were both slinging nonsense. so yes she's in town range, there's nothing i can reasonably read her off. i will advocate to off her. but i'm not gonna call her a wolf necessarily cause i don't have any proof and i don't sr her as i've said before

@Porscha

why is v!robyn so terrified to wolfread me xd

i don't have reason to, and i pulled up a meta example of us suspecting one another incorrectly the entire game, your posts continue to not make any sense. i don't think i've ever been described as terrified to do anything as any alignment? like you know me very well and continue to play in bad faith and weirdly not understand me

don't care

your posts towards me are weird and not in good faith either, just stop talking about me and if you're town ill find u eventually but the more you pointlessly say my name the more im going to want to kill you

i ought to ask the simple question; how have i treated you in bad faith? i'm explicitly not scumreading you for what i find to be very bad play that's unlike what i usually see from lily, is that not good faith?

i will stop talking to you though, i'm going to nap, get some sleep and produce some half decent content

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:11 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:04 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:51 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:48 pm if lily does not improve, i will tell scotty to off her, if she does improve i will tell scotty to let her live. i believe i said this, but i'll say it again more explicitly

to better respond to this and the above porscha post. me and lily have hard disagreed and been t/t before. adapt 6 on mu is a prime example where we were both slinging nonsense. so yes she's in town range, there's nothing i can reasonably read her off. i will advocate to off her. but i'm not gonna call her a wolf necessarily cause i don't have any proof and i don't sr her as i've said before

@Porscha

why is v!robyn so terrified to wolfread me xd

I think your case against robyn is too much of a stretch, and I don't think it comes from a town player. I think it's you, a wolf, trying to make a convincing and realistic sounding case, but it doesn't hit right with me.

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:07 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:04 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:51 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:48 pm if lily does not improve, i will tell scotty to off her, if she does improve i will tell scotty to let her live. i believe i said this, but i'll say it again more explicitly

to better respond to this and the above porscha post. me and lily have hard disagreed and been t/t before. adapt 6 on mu is a prime example where we were both slinging nonsense. so yes she's in town range, there's nothing i can reasonably read her off. i will advocate to off her. but i'm not gonna call her a wolf necessarily cause i don't have any proof and i don't sr her as i've said before

@Porscha

why is v!robyn so terrified to wolfread me xd

i don't have reason to, and i pulled up a meta example of us suspecting one another incorrectly the entire game, your posts continue to not make any sense. i don't think i've ever been described as terrified to do anything as any alignment? like you know me very well and continue to play in bad faith and weirdly not understand me

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:51 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:48 pm if lily does not improve, i will tell scotty to off her, if she does improve i will tell scotty to let her live. i believe i said this, but i'll say it again more explicitly

to better respond to this and the above porscha post. me and lily have hard disagreed and been t/t before. adapt 6 on mu is a prime example where we were both slinging nonsense. so yes she's in town range, there's nothing i can reasonably read her off. i will advocate to off her. but i'm not gonna call her a wolf necessarily cause i don't have any proof and i don't sr her as i've said before

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:03 pm Looked back over some of it. I think lily has good wolf potential, and I support a Scotty shot tonight.

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:02 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:55 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:51 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:48 pm if lily does not improve, i will tell scotty to off her, if she does improve i will tell scotty to let her live. i believe i said this, but i'll say it again more explicitly

to better respond to this and the above porscha post. me and lily have hard disagreed and been t/t before. adapt 6 on mu is a prime example where we were both slinging nonsense. so yes she's in town range, there's nothing i can reasonably read her off. i will advocate to off her. but i'm not gonna call her a wolf necessarily cause i don't have any proof and i don't sr her as i've said before

Couple questions, then. Do you expect scotty to listen to you? Since presumably you would just be talking to him in open thread and hoping he reads it, and then also agrees with you, and townreads you enough to trust you, and most certainly was town himself, and would therefore try to town side ... it is a lot of factors to consider.

Second... how would you ever scumread lily based on what you have just said? What takes her out of town range for you?

i believe that i'm his top, or one of his top tr's, and i've played well enough in multiple games (one where i was scooby doo or something and caught 3/4 of the mafia by myself on d1-2 (where he hosted)) i believe scotty would read the thread because he has an ability that will be used tonight

i also believe in any scenario where scotty is lying or anything like the ability doesn't go off or whatever isn't worth thinking about, i will assume what's optimal to me and play to it. it just doesn't matter whether it's false but it does matter if it's true and i'll play to that. it either is a world where scotty has a kill or doesn't and i'm gonna play like he does cause that's strictly optimal

under these assumptions. yes he has a kill. yes he trusts me. yes i can essentially have a nontrivial say in the kill

(me not answering the last 2 questions for reasons)

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:51 pm Lily insists to me that she has a noticeable tonal gap between her alignments. But I usually struggle to find it early. Here, I feel like I hear it, it's a bit overly performative, lily accuses robyn of lazy power wolfing but I dont know how she can think that. Lily also said this page to robyn that she has been tr'ing me, but it wasnt more than 1 or 2 pages back I had to say to lily that at least robyn had the decency to note that I town told, whether it was tmi or not, and I argued with lily about whether she thinks I have been confident, expressing conflicting opinions with others, and making reads, and she tried to pretend like I wasnt doing all of those things when I objectively was. And then turns around and tells robyn she has been tr'ing me. Lol like... no you havent...

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:29 am lily i also know you’re not reading any of my posts and another example is post 730 because post 677 exists, you’re painting me as a wolf without an earnest attempt to even read my posts

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:18 am okay, lily i apologize for being so aggressive towards you. and i’ve thought about this a lot but i’m simply enraged by your play this game. your read on me is wrong and for the wrong reasons. you aren’t making sense to me and everything you’re saying is something that i disagree with. for example you accuse me of going through the motions by probing/being inquisitive towards nooks alignment. i don’t understand this read one bit because i pushed him without making a read on him and i’m going to be curious about the alignments of other players and i don’t understand why you’re criticizing me and calling me wolfy for that, it’s blatantly in bad faith. furthermore had you read the thread in the first place you would understand that two voters who would be online (brad because of bad sleep schedule and ender because he’s from australia) both townread me and would come to vote, because of boq’s vote and nook’s vote there was still a fucking chance porscha would go over instead of nook, which she did. because both of these players townread me and because i ended up getting 2 votes plus myself on nook in the first place spending a considerable amount of effort on who was going to get voted out i can’t fucking see any scenario where i’m the one who is going through the motions. i expect town lily to find me without much difficulty, i don’t expect town lily to misread me and this gamestate so badly. i would very much like to change your worldview because it sucks, i can say that it sucks for demonstrable and quantifiable reasons. such as blatantly misreading events to read me and others. you not being able to find me is very concerning

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:19 am i know you agreed with lily on me, i know that it was for bad reasons because lily is not playing well, being convinced that there is a wolf in us three helps the shotty and opportunistic reads fmpov. i know that porscha has towntold and i have no reasons to suspect boq. that leaves me and lily. i do not suspect lily explicitly but what and how she's playing the game is not good. i don't need much to know that every post of hers has been backwards. i do know that porscha has towntold, that lily has a good porscha read normally (which i have said in my original porscha read) so lily getting porscha wrong is pinging me. lily getting me wrong is pinging me. but i don't want myself or lily to die right now because holy fuck that's terrible. you still look extremely fucking opportunistic to me and "DEAD CONVINCED" based off that logic and not gut is bad. can you explain reasons to tr me and to sr me, cause i don't know what your independent read on me is?

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:17 am

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:15 am

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:14 am Gonna process Porscha's posts before I see if my read changes.

Feel slightly eh that people are immediately town reading anger. If she is town, I believe there's scum there.

Yeah it's probably Robyn

Yeah, or Lily.

Boquise wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:16 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:14 am wwa's posts and general vibe have been incredibly towny, handling of porscha is S+

boq seems towny but boq can post like this as town and is most likely incorrect in his sus on porscha, if he continues wolfsiding prolly kill

"continues wolfsiding" means I am wolfsiding right now. Consider my arms crossed with a big :really: face tbh

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:14 am wwa's posts and general vibe have been incredibly towny, handling of porscha is S+

boq seems towny but boq can post like this as wolf and is most likely incorrect in his sus on porscha, if he continues wolfsiding prolly kill

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 12:09 am [VOTE: Nook] aubergine

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:45 am i would strongly prefer nook to die over scotty for sake of content

also nook, given your content what do you think about lily’s tr on you?

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:50 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:49 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:45 am i would strongly prefer nook to die over scotty for sake of content

also nook, given your content what do you think about lily’s tr on you?

Idk if she trs me or not but atp it's entirely reasonable if she does imo

what have you done for someone to get a town gutread on you

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:53 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:51 am Either Nook or Porscha to me I don't feel like voting Scotty.

go porscha imo

(this is my implicit response to u nook)

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:03 am Yeah now I regret not just voting Nook.

Stupid ass decision by me.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:03 am sorry boq ily I dont mean to be so abrasive I just really do not / did not understand how svs jumped onto your assumptions with no real thought and lily can't read me there either. too much nonsense to handle in 1 go

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:50 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:49 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:48 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:46 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:44 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:42 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:41 am

Porscha may not be afraid of confrontation.

But I am.

Please help me.

do you want me to confront you brad

I would love that.

Brad, you are being a very bad boy. We both know that you are wasting posts and clogging the thread with nonsense and emojis because you are choosing to act out for attention. That is not how good boys act. I will ask politely the first time: Please correct your behavior. Be the good boy I know you can be. <3

My reads are basically the same but add you and Lily to townreads I'm vibing anyways.

no but my posts are SO BAD and awful and u should be angry that im SO wolfy!!

they’re awful opinion wise not alignment wise, to clarify, you’ve not been scummy but again everything you’ve produced has been bad

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:48 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:46 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:44 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:42 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:41 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:37 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:27 am

okay? what part do you disagree with? do you think I am not confident? do you think I haven't made reads? do you think i'm afraid of confrontation? I think that's all I listed. so feel free to point out where you aren't seeing that.

i don't rly see u as not afraid of confrontation or specifically confident

Porscha may not be afraid of confrontation.

But I am.

Please help me.

do you want me to confront you brad

I would love that.

Brad, you are being a very bad boy. We both know that you are wasting posts and clogging the thread with nonsense and emojis because you are choosing to act out for attention. That is not how good boys act. I will ask politely the first time: Please correct your behavior. Be the good boy I know you can be. <3

My reads are basically the same but add you and Lily to townreads I'm vibing anyways.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:46 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:44 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:42 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:41 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:37 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:27 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:22 am

you seem very like "im town trust me bro im doing the things i do when im town" which I don't rly agree with?

but at the same time i think as a wolf you'd be more self aware of how you're coming off which is why idk

okay? what part do you disagree with? do you think I am not confident? do you think I haven't made reads? do you think i'm afraid of confrontation? I think that's all I listed. so feel free to point out where you aren't seeing that.

i don't rly see u as not afraid of confrontation or specifically confident

Porscha may not be afraid of confrontation.

But I am.

Please help me.

do you want me to confront you brad

I would love that.

Brad, you are being a very bad boy. We both know that you are wasting posts and clogging the thread with nonsense and emojis because you are choosing to act out for attention. That is not how good boys act. I will ask politely the first time: Please correct your behavior. Be the good boy I know you can be. <3

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:42 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:41 am idk why im never allowed to just like not have the same vibe read as how u think ur coming off

i always am INAUTHENTIC

SOMETIMES I AM OBV TOWN AND SOMETIMES I AM NOT AND I DO MY BEST TO BE HONEST ABOUT WHETHER I THINK I HAVE OBV TOWNED OR NOT BUT THIS PAGE I THINK I HAVE SO I AM SURPRISED YOU CAN STILL NOT AGREE

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:41 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:35 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:32 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:31 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:27 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:26 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:11 am @Porscha if ur town robyn is prolly a wolf cuz they're lazily POEing us and trying to get me murdered for bad reasons

atm im unsure because you don't rly seem too towny

so idk whats ur opinion

this is such an awful post, everything you’re producing is bad, go read the thread in full and stop whatever this is, because it sucks

Robyn you seem very very agitated, did you get caught again?

lily’s play has been tilting me regardless of her read on me

have you considered that it might be alignment indicative and would you like to share your thoughts on that

Yes Robyn, tell us how that makes you feel and what you think you can do about it.

makes me think nothing, i expect her to find me as town, furthermore i expect her to have a similar worldview. albeit i haven’t clarified my current worldview

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:39 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:37 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:27 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:22 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:20 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:19 am porscha does seem wolfy here and the mech at eod seems bad for her but i dunno

???????????????? how do I seem wolfy?????????????

you seem very like "im town trust me bro im doing the things i do when im town" which I don't rly agree with?

but at the same time i think as a wolf you'd be more self aware of how you're coming off which is why idk

okay? what part do you disagree with? do you think I am not confident? do you think I haven't made reads? do you think i'm afraid of confrontation? I think that's all I listed. so feel free to point out where you aren't seeing that.

i don't rly see u as not afraid of confrontation or specifically confident

I think that's blatantly obvious this page to the point I have to question the authenticity if your answer

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:27 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:22 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:20 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:19 am porscha does seem wolfy here and the mech at eod seems bad for her but i dunno

???????????????? how do I seem wolfy?????????????

you seem very like "im town trust me bro im doing the things i do when im town" which I don't rly agree with?

but at the same time i think as a wolf you'd be more self aware of how you're coming off which is why idk

okay? what part do you disagree with? do you think I am not confident? do you think I haven't made reads? do you think i'm afraid of confrontation? I think that's all I listed. so feel free to point out where you aren't seeing that.

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:31 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:27 am

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:26 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:11 am @Porscha if ur town robyn is prolly a wolf cuz they're lazily POEing us and trying to get me murdered for bad reasons

atm im unsure because you don't rly seem too towny

so idk whats ur opinion

this is such an awful post, everything you’re producing is bad, go read the thread in full and stop whatever this is, because it sucks

Robyn you seem very very agitated, did you get caught again?

lily’s play has been tilting me regardless of her read on me

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:26 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:11 am @Porscha if ur town robyn is prolly a wolf cuz they're lazily POEing us and trying to get me murdered for bad reasons

atm im unsure because you don't rly seem too towny

so idk whats ur opinion

this is such an awful post, everything you’re producing is bad, go read the thread in full and stop whatever this is, because it sucks

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:20 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:19 am porscha does seem wolfy here and the mech at eod seems bad for her but i dunno

???????????????? how do I seem wolfy?????????????

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:06 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:47 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 4:46 am thanks. I sr'd long con, wwa is still like meh for me, lily is sr, I would need to check brad again but I kinda felt like he got cleared overly quickly and I didnt like that but maybe i'm also the bozo

daring aren't we

which part of that was daring?

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:05 am can’t, have to sleep, work in 3h

go read the thread and make posts and get a world view, there’s enough content to read

i just think everything except the porscha read that you’ve done has been awful, i think you can improve, but rn i’d have you

take this as encouragement even though i’m being serious, i didn’t like your post calling me bad for suspecting you either

robyn wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 5:00 am just to make my position clear

kill porscha/lily

and i advise scotty to take out lily unless she improves

(days and nights are both 24h)