The Syndicate

Davos wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:59 amArrr

Wtf
I'm guessing this account is controlled by a player?
(I don't expect anyone to claim this, speculation is presumably fine but don't out your role please)

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:49 pm I JUST WANT SOMETHING TO HAPPEN.

DO SOMETHING PEOPLE

STIR THE POT.

COOK SOMETHING.

I spent N0 and the start of D1 stirring the pot, and look how that went

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:32 pm man this is just severance i got put in the dead thread, the other one has both abi and cait they probably have like 40 pages by now

Ngl I'm surprised. Usually I'm the one spamming the thread anyway, but I said I'd slank this game and I'm slanking by my standards lol. I thought having 8 pages of posts here in like 12 hours or something was a sign that this was gonna be a high-volume thread, but i came back to so few new posts that I actually did backread everything since page 8 or so. Then I picked some random page numbers and skimmed those.

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:06 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:56 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:09 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:44 pm i think rondo and guillo are both town

i think the scum are more likely to be blendy and more cooperative, the people being loud and aggressive are prob town

Tell me more about your read on Rondo pls

Eh it's a very light one since I know he can do this as wolf too but he seems to believe what he's saying even if it doesn't always make sense to me

I don't believe scum Rondo can't back up his posts with confidence.

I've definitely seen him do it. I made the mistake of townreading him in Severance because he always wolfsided with his vote but he sounded like he believed his reasons to townread me. And he had TMI I was town, lol.

Im not really sure which way I lean on Rondo aorn because I've only seen a handful of his posts, but I should probably solidify an opinion later.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:57 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:12 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:44 pm i think rondo and guillo are both town

i think the scum are more likely to be blendy and more cooperative, the people being loud and aggressive are prob town

Cause Michelle quoted this, I saw it. And I'd like to ask, if you think scum is more blendy and cooperative, and town is loud and aggressive, why then did you say that my being aggressive and pushing Alison and you feels scummy?

I in fact backed off on you for partially this very reason. I originally thought your reactionary aggressiveness was just bluntly scummy but changed my mind (maybe)

Huh, all right. But it wasn't just reactionary aggressiveness. I've been aggressive since N0 started.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:52 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:25 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:19 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:15 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:43 pm Towny:
Wwa
Creature
Nutella
Nook

Squint
Cape
Wilgz
Lemon

Scummy
Alison
Limecoke

Why is nook town?
Am I so forgetful to not receive a read?

Tone and the fact he's actually giving a fuck about the Game and providing drive by reads. Yes I know the bar is low.

Also going to be honest, I was going to sponge brad's read on you if he was actually around. I struggle to read you most games. This is one of those games.

Last time I saw nook give drive-by reads I was correct that he was uninformed but he was a 3P lol
So I have mixed feelings on that take

Link to game

It was Rondo's Landlord Legacy Listing game here on Syndicate

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:19 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:15 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 9:43 pm Towny:
Wwa
Creature
Nutella
Nook

Squint
Cape
Wilgz
Lemon

Scummy
Alison
Limecoke

Why is nook town?
Am I so forgetful to not receive a read?

Tone and the fact he's actually giving a fuck about the Game and providing drive by reads. Yes I know the bar is low.

Also going to be honest, I was going to sponge brad's read on you if he was actually around. I struggle to read you most games. This is one of those games.

Last time I saw nook give drive-by reads I was correct that he was uninformed but he was a 3P lol
So I have mixed feelings on that take

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 10:19 pm Could Alison v WindWard be w/w?

No

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:50 pm I'm probably around here atm:

town
Cape90
Creature
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
RondoDimBuckle
nutella
Michelle

everyone else
Dyslexicon
Master Radishes
Alison
DrWilgy
Lime Coke
DarlingMonroe
Sabiplz
WindwardAway

I am consistently at the bottom of your readlist and yet you haven't engaged with me on game-related stuff. Why is that?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 8:44 pm i think rondo and guillo are both town

i think the scum are more likely to be blendy and more cooperative, the people being loud and aggressive are prob town

Cause Michelle quoted this, I saw it. And I'd like to ask, if you think scum is more blendy and cooperative, and town is loud and aggressive, why then did you say that my being aggressive and pushing Alison and you feels scummy?

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:51 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:41 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:52 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:31 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:26 pm
she probs has an NK priority list in scum chat with me at the top

might be what she was thinking of

why would i as scum bother killing you? you actually think you're that relevant?

probably cuz I caught your whole team LOL

unless you're claiming mafia and not teamed with any of my other suspects?

That said, these two are either w/w or t/t, never a difference check.

....What

What a weird conclusion.

@Guillotine what was your reasoning on this take?

It is very simple, you two going at each other like an ex-couple looks to me like a TvT fight, I dont think Alison attacks you the way she has and viceversa as scum. unless both of you are scum doing theater.

But I don't get why any of this makes you think there wouldn't be exactly one scum between Alison and me. Of course I can personally vouch that we aren't w/w, but what about the whole thing makes you think there's no agenda push from either of us on each other? Regardless of my own read on Alison, I don't understand yours.

I'm still fine with my vote on Nutella but I have another read or two to reconsider

I don't have time to ISO right now but I have some stuff I want to look at later, mostly because I don't intend to do a full backread but I do wanna check some context.

Ngl that one makes me wonder where Guillo is pulling his reads from

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:52 am

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:31 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:26 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:25 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:19 pm I never got notified of the tag, but hey, I found the thread.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

full disclosure there are at least 4 names here that I'd strongly consider voting. If you're on that list and you're town, you'd better convince me of it.
and no, i'm not giving the list, it's in the N0 thread. do the work yourself.

This implies the existence of a vote list, instead its just "go read my iso to find out who I find scummy" there is no list. Just thought you should know

she probs has an NK priority list in scum chat with me at the top

might be what she was thinking of

why would i as scum bother killing you? you actually think you're that relevant?

probably cuz I caught your whole team LOL

unless you're claiming mafia and not teamed with any of my other suspects?

That said, these two are either w/w or t/t, never a difference check.

....What

What a weird conclusion.

@Guillotine what was your reasoning on this take?

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:33 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:07 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:06 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:04 pm oh and the nutella calling falcon town thing is because people think falcon sucks as wolf so they are just calling him town for it, it's a read i am ignoring because i dont want to treat falcon like a 5 year old

it's a sucky read because i saw him coast as scum in a game when people kept dismissing him as "in his town meta" when apparently he was not

Was she in that game too?

If not why would you think that nutella is maliciously deceiving you rather than being one of the apparently many people who are wont to dismiss falcon as being in his town meta for thin reasons?

I don't even think it's a thin reason lol. I have seen him do well as scum. The way he instantly got involved in a complex player interaction here was just towny

It was not a complex player interaction. It was some dumb conversation that started regarding Sabi's opening post and then about players having differing reactions to that post. There was nothing complex about it.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:12 am except some nonsense about me and falcon that's a total reach

It's not a reach, if you'd actually paid attention to my posts you would've known I didn't townread falcon. So telling me to call him town instead of not wolves with Guillo is ???

Sorry I've been busy, I won't be around much but I'll still pop in. Just catching up on notifications rn.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 11:32 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:32 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:31 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:26 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:25 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:19 pm I never got notified of the tag, but hey, I found the thread.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

full disclosure there are at least 4 names here that I'd strongly consider voting. If you're on that list and you're town, you'd better convince me of it.
and no, i'm not giving the list, it's in the N0 thread. do the work yourself.

This implies the existence of a vote list, instead its just "go read my iso to find out who I find scummy" there is no list. Just thought you should know

she probs has an NK priority list in scum chat with me at the top

might be what she was thinking of

why would i as scum bother killing you? you actually think you're that relevant?

probably cuz I caught your whole team LOL

unless you're claiming mafia and not teamed with any of my other suspects?

i'm teamed with town so yeah you'd be wrong, but you're wolfing so being wrong is totally acceptable.

Hey you,


I want a clear cut answer from you Wind.


Do you really scum read Alison or are you just annoyed at her pressure and you just OMGUSing?

I was legit scumreading her earlier because I thought her push on me was unfounded. But after picking her brain about some of her other reads I'm less certain that she's scum. I think her conversation with me about Falcon and Nutella was actually decent, even if I don't agree with all of her points.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:13 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:31 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:30 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:27 pm do you see me voting you? no. do i give a shit? yes, as far as that you're picking the wrong player to push. if you think you can get a mislunch on me, then good luck i guess.

so I can vote you but you don't have the stones to vote me back? great deal for me, never taking my vote off then!

cool, waste your vote then, that's great

Do you townread Alison?

not particularly
i'm not dead set on scumreading her, though, I'm trying to understand her thought process which is why i'm talking to her about falcon and nutella
but hell if i care whether scum wastes their vote
i honestly don't know if i care whether town wastes their vote on me or not, sometimes i just stop giving a shit and decide it's better for people to flip me early so they stop trying to preflip me as scum, since that tends to result in a ton of bad reads if i remain alive

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:12 pm Dizzy is lock town btw

why?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:10 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:08 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:07 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:05 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:04 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:19 pm I never got notified of the tag, but hey, I found the thread.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

full disclosure there are at least 4 names here that I'd strongly consider voting. If you're on that list and you're town, you'd better convince me of it.
and no, i'm not giving the list, it's in the N0 thread. do the work yourself.

I insist

[VOTE: WindwardAway] aubergine

good luck lol

Why are you wishing me luck, you are gonna die with this approach of yours, no, good luck to you staying alive girl

i die all the time as town, you think it matters? as long as i'm not the lylo mislunch that's everyone else's problem and not mine.

what happened to "good luck mislunching me"? now it's "I die all the time... your problem if you're wrong on me!!"

I'll fight to live at certain points and just lose the energy at other points
it's early game, mislunches don't matter as much as I'd like to think they do
i'd rather avoid them but i'd also rather get mislunched earlier than later, that's just a personal preference if it does have to happen at all

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:07 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:06 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:04 pm oh and the nutella calling falcon town thing is because people think falcon sucks as wolf so they are just calling him town for it, it's a read i am ignoring because i dont want to treat falcon like a 5 year old

it's a sucky read because i saw him coast as scum in a game when people kept dismissing him as "in his town meta" when apparently he was not

Was she in that game too?

If not why would you think that nutella is maliciously deceiving you rather than being one of the apparently many people who are wont to dismiss falcon as being in his town meta for thin reasons?

no, she wasn't.
my first thought was that falcon was scum and nutella could be partnered for what i believe was an unintentional defense. but the reason i am voting nutella over falcon is specifically because i think nutella could still be scum if falcon is town. ergo, i think it's more likely nutella is scum than falcon is.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:07 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:05 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:03 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:00 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:58 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:56 pm and nutella is significant because i think her handling of falcon was weird
when i said that falcon and guillo weren't partnered, i had a more specific thought that guillo was towny, but i initially thought falcon was scummy off his opener. but when there was the whole back-and-forth regarding sabi's opener, falcon and guillo were clashing, so instead of giving individual reads on them i said i'm reading them as unpaired. which to me makes perfect sense because i scumread one and townread the other at the time.
that being said, by the time i came back to the thread, people were correcting me and saying that falcon always opens with "i am town" every time and it's not alignment-indicative, which, ok, fine. but nutella said falcon should be townread off his interaction and that instead of saying he's unpaired with guillo, i should call falcon town. and i don't particularly think falcon is towny so I want to press nutella first to see if it's tmi or if she's defending her partner. either way i don't think it came across as natural.

I think falcon is obvious town too.

Not for saying I am town though lol.

do you agree with nutella's take that falcon is interactive enough to be towny, or do you have other reasons?

It's mostly just vibes for me. If I had to put words to it I think I would say that he has a sense of fluidity to his posts and a related propensity to poke at people (eg. when he had a little bite in his tone after guillo fought with him) that he struggles to authentically replicate as scum. You can call it a tone read if you want but I have a good track record of reading falcon confidently and early (and I usually TMI him a lot as mafia, so you should trust my read on him either way).

ok
i'm gonna give falcon some thought
i will also give you some thought
but i still think nutella's response to me was off

I mean I don't think nutella's defense of falcon is clearing or anything. She could be mafia TMI-ing him too. In fact as mafia she is a TMI machine.

But my point is that I don't think the take was garbage by itself. I find nutella's posts to be generally townie and in line with town nutella.

yeah I've seen her spew TMI before as a wolf
maybe I should dig for more context. I just think it was weird she specifically told me to call falcon town when I wasn't townreading him, and if she'd read my posts she should've been able to figure that out. It felt like she was telling me to townread falcon without actually paying any attention to my reads, which is why it caught my attention.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:07 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:05 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:04 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:19 pm I never got notified of the tag, but hey, I found the thread.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

full disclosure there are at least 4 names here that I'd strongly consider voting. If you're on that list and you're town, you'd better convince me of it.
and no, i'm not giving the list, it's in the N0 thread. do the work yourself.

I insist

[VOTE: WindwardAway] aubergine

good luck lol

Why are you wishing me luck, you are gonna die with this approach of yours, no, good luck to you staying alive girl

i die all the time as town, you think it matters? as long as i'm not the lylo mislunch that's everyone else's problem and not mine.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:05 pm This is a totally different WWA and i hate this version of herself, she needs a big wake up call to steer her towards the right path again and if not, she dan die.

/shrug

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:04 pm oh and the nutella calling falcon town thing is because people think falcon sucks as wolf so they are just calling him town for it, it's a read i am ignoring because i dont want to treat falcon like a 5 year old

it's a sucky read because i saw him coast as scum in a game when people kept dismissing him as "in his town meta" when apparently he was not

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:04 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:19 pm I never got notified of the tag, but hey, I found the thread.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

full disclosure there are at least 4 names here that I'd strongly consider voting. If you're on that list and you're town, you'd better convince me of it.
and no, i'm not giving the list, it's in the N0 thread. do the work yourself.

I insist

[VOTE: WindwardAway] aubergine

good luck lol

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:03 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:00 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:58 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:56 pm and nutella is significant because i think her handling of falcon was weird
when i said that falcon and guillo weren't partnered, i had a more specific thought that guillo was towny, but i initially thought falcon was scummy off his opener. but when there was the whole back-and-forth regarding sabi's opener, falcon and guillo were clashing, so instead of giving individual reads on them i said i'm reading them as unpaired. which to me makes perfect sense because i scumread one and townread the other at the time.
that being said, by the time i came back to the thread, people were correcting me and saying that falcon always opens with "i am town" every time and it's not alignment-indicative, which, ok, fine. but nutella said falcon should be townread off his interaction and that instead of saying he's unpaired with guillo, i should call falcon town. and i don't particularly think falcon is towny so I want to press nutella first to see if it's tmi or if she's defending her partner. either way i don't think it came across as natural.

I think falcon is obvious town too.

Not for saying I am town though lol.

do you agree with nutella's take that falcon is interactive enough to be towny, or do you have other reasons?

It's mostly just vibes for me. If I had to put words to it I think I would say that he has a sense of fluidity to his posts and a related propensity to poke at people (eg. when he had a little bite in his tone after guillo fought with him) that he struggles to authentically replicate as scum. You can call it a tone read if you want but I have a good track record of reading falcon confidently and early (and I usually TMI him a lot as mafia, so you should trust my read on him either way).

ok
i'm gonna give falcon some thought
i will also give you some thought
but i still think nutella's response to me was off

also, i haven't read any of leetics posts except like two that were complaints about the N0 thread being 90% unproductive
but i remember tunnelling them in the last game cause i thought their stubbornness was towny until they hard wolfsided for a couple days and then i was convinced they were a wolf
but they were town lol

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 9:00 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:21 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:18 pm Catching up now since i missed a lot of night 0

[VOTE: WindwardAway] aubergine

for now because

1. I was suspicious of #61 because I feel like it was WWA shading for the sake of shading. Like as town WWA would just ignore it as implied in their post, but for some reason they feel the need to comment on it. Also it's just ??? because it isn't an opening that made people feel less welcome, dunno what that was about.

2. #190 kind of solidified it for me. Like nutella isn't calling falc scum here, they are shading you for the same reason I am, it doesn't have anything to do with me thinking falcon is explicity town *(though I have taken note there were people that have defended falcon, kinda wanna look at that as soon as i read up on stuff).

I have read both Dizzy's and MR's content from night 0, thanks for coming to my TED talk because i have nothing to say about either one right now LOL

Oh and I also disliked #250 from porscha, seemed rather overthought out

I never said nutella called falcon scum, I said I'M not calling falcon TOWN. because nut said i should just call falcon town for whatever fucking reason when I don't even townread him. nutella called falcon town for interacting with the thread but I stand by my call that it was all fluff.
I think nutella's just covering for falcon tbh.

why are you so grumpy? I partially do not get this about you and leetic, level 0 answer is you didn't get the rand you wanted so you are throwing a tamper tantrum in thread

i'm visiting my parents and my mom has been in the hospital for 3 weeks, i'm tired of dealing with stupid shit

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:58 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:56 pm and nutella is significant because i think her handling of falcon was weird
when i said that falcon and guillo weren't partnered, i had a more specific thought that guillo was towny, but i initially thought falcon was scummy off his opener. but when there was the whole back-and-forth regarding sabi's opener, falcon and guillo were clashing, so instead of giving individual reads on them i said i'm reading them as unpaired. which to me makes perfect sense because i scumread one and townread the other at the time.
that being said, by the time i came back to the thread, people were correcting me and saying that falcon always opens with "i am town" every time and it's not alignment-indicative, which, ok, fine. but nutella said falcon should be townread off his interaction and that instead of saying he's unpaired with guillo, i should call falcon town. and i don't particularly think falcon is towny so I want to press nutella first to see if it's tmi or if she's defending her partner. either way i don't think it came across as natural.

I think falcon is obvious town too.

Not for saying I am town though lol.

do you agree with nutella's take that falcon is interactive enough to be towny, or do you have other reasons?

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:57 pm wait, can we assume the number of mafia/town in each facility is divided equally?
I'm assuming the other thread would also get to vote so if the number of towns/mafia are unbalanced, one side would have a higher chance of hitting town and it wouldn't make sense

probably the same or roughly the same imo
i guess it's possible there might be an imbalance of like, one
but if it wasn't sorted by specific roles then it's probably just an even number

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:57 pm Honestly

Calm down the lot of you

We are early game

We can do better than black and white

no we can't, this is forum mafia /s

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:50 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:45 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:41 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:38 pm why would i waste my energy towncasing myself? it's the start of D1, what the fuck am i supposed to say? "hey guys i'm town" is the dumbest shit ever and I refuse to do that.
if you're town, go make other reads and draw your own conclusions. if you're scum and my reads are wrong i'm not going to do the work for you.

considering that you started off with "there's 4 people in this thread I would happily vote and they need to convince me that they are town"... you seem perfectly happy to accept the idea that players can and should towncase themselves early on lol

and yeah I'm talking about other reads, like #42 is all about sabi... it's not like you're the only person I've been focused on in this thread, whereas as far as I can tell, pretty much 100% of your substantive content in this thread has been about me.

I didn't want them to literally towncase themselves. I want them to show it by just doing their thing and posting. I find people when they show with their actions and words that they're town, not when they give a whole bullshit towncase on themselves. Because frankly, even if I'm town, if I towncase myself it is complete bullshit lol.

The other 2 people in my scumreads haven't posted in this thread yet, and neither has nutella, so yeah I am entirely focused on you right now. I'm not dead set on all of my scumreads being lockscum, but I need a starting point to hunt and I have that. The best way to read a player is to engage directly with them imo.

Other 2 or other 3? You said 4 total, so minus me, that's 3 more

Why is nutella significant?

nutella is one of them
then there are 2 more

and nutella is significant because i think her handling of falcon was weird
when i said that falcon and guillo weren't partnered, i had a more specific thought that guillo was towny, but i initially thought falcon was scummy off his opener. but when there was the whole back-and-forth regarding sabi's opener, falcon and guillo were clashing, so instead of giving individual reads on them i said i'm reading them as unpaired. which to me makes perfect sense because i scumread one and townread the other at the time.
that being said, by the time i came back to the thread, people were correcting me and saying that falcon always opens with "i am town" every time and it's not alignment-indicative, which, ok, fine. but nutella said falcon should be townread off his interaction and that instead of saying he's unpaired with guillo, i should call falcon town. and i don't particularly think falcon is towny so I want to press nutella first to see if it's tmi or if she's defending her partner. either way i don't think it came across as natural.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:41 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:38 pm why would i waste my energy towncasing myself? it's the start of D1, what the fuck am i supposed to say? "hey guys i'm town" is the dumbest shit ever and I refuse to do that.
if you're town, go make other reads and draw your own conclusions. if you're scum and my reads are wrong i'm not going to do the work for you.

considering that you started off with "there's 4 people in this thread I would happily vote and they need to convince me that they are town"... you seem perfectly happy to accept the idea that players can and should towncase themselves early on lol

and yeah I'm talking about other reads, like #42 is all about sabi... it's not like you're the only person I've been focused on in this thread, whereas as far as I can tell, pretty much 100% of your substantive content in this thread has been about me.

I didn't want them to literally towncase themselves. I want them to show it by just doing their thing and posting. I find people when they show with their actions and words that they're town, not when they give a whole bullshit towncase on themselves. Because frankly, even if I'm town, if I towncase myself it is complete bullshit lol.

The other 2 people in my scumreads haven't posted in this thread yet, and neither has nutella, so yeah I am entirely focused on you right now. I'm not dead set on all of my scumreads being lockscum, but I need a starting point to hunt and I have that. The best way to read a player is to engage directly with them imo.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:41 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:39 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:38 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:36 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:35 pm Ok, but what if you're all wrong

if we're all wrong i'd be neither town nor scum, i guess i'd be a 3P??
that's just stupid, we're not all wrong. I'm right and everyone else needs to fucking listen.

Wise words, windy one

You are right that you are town, but beyond that, who knows

ok, and why do YOU believe me when i say that?

I just like to listen to people

Especially when they cri

huh
that was definitely not the answer i expected but ok

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:38 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:36 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:35 pm Ok, but what if you're all wrong

if we're all wrong i'd be neither town nor scum, i guess i'd be a 3P??
that's just stupid, we're not all wrong. I'm right and everyone else needs to fucking listen.

Wise words, windy one

You are right that you are town, but beyond that, who knows

ok, and why do YOU believe me when i say that?

like do you seriously think i made so many posts during N0 that it's un-ISOable
give me a fucking break

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:36 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:34 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:33 pmhoes mad loool

ok let me ask you something
if you're town then why would you be complaining that i'm not voting you?? i'm not stupid, i'm not going to OMGUS you when I actually feel there are better places for me to place my vote first.
so calm the fuck down.

I'm not complaining at all.

I'm just pointing out that you're simultaneously telling me to put my vote elsewhere and giving me zero reasons to do that. You haven't towncased yourself, convinced me to vote for a scummier player and you aren't even pressuring me back.

It feels like you're just saying "vote elsewhere" because you think it's what a townie would say, rather than having actual intent or motivation to convince me to do as you ask.

For instance a natural start would be to talk about the other 3 people you apparently think are scum and why, but you've been intentionally stubborn about not wanting to talk about them and rebuff all attempts at asking with "read my N0 ISO".

why would i waste my energy towncasing myself? it's the start of D1, what the fuck am i supposed to say? "hey guys i'm town" is the dumbest shit ever and I refuse to do that.
if you're town, go make other reads and draw your own conclusions. if you're scum and my reads are wrong i'm not going to do the work for you.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:35 pm Ok, but what if you're all wrong

if we're all wrong i'd be neither town nor scum, i guess i'd be a 3P??
that's just stupid, we're not all wrong. I'm right and everyone else needs to fucking listen.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:33 pmhoes mad loool

ok let me ask you something
if you're town then why would you be complaining that i'm not voting you?? i'm not stupid, i'm not going to OMGUS you when I actually feel there are better places for me to place my vote first.
so calm the fuck down.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:31 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:29 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:26 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:25 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:19 pm I never got notified of the tag, but hey, I found the thread.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

full disclosure there are at least 4 names here that I'd strongly consider voting. If you're on that list and you're town, you'd better convince me of it.
and no, i'm not giving the list, it's in the N0 thread. do the work yourself.

This implies the existence of a vote list, instead its just "go read my iso to find out who I find scummy" there is no list. Just thought you should know

she probs has an NK priority list in scum chat with me at the top

might be what she was thinking of

why would i as scum bother killing you? you actually think you're that relevant?

probably cuz I caught your whole team LOL

unless you're claiming mafia and not teamed with any of my other suspects?

i'm teamed with town so yeah you'd be wrong, but you're wolfing so being wrong is totally acceptable.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:30 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:27 pm do you see me voting you? no. do i give a shit? yes, as far as that you're picking the wrong player to push. if you think you can get a mislunch on me, then good luck i guess.

so I can vote you but you don't have the stones to vote me back? great deal for me, never taking my vote off then!

cool, waste your vote then, that's great

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:26 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:25 pm

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:24 pm I'm like 95% wwa is town here

and why is that?

Tone

tonereading me works like 0% of the time
people tunnel me for tone as town
people townread me for tone as scum
it is directly related to my mood irl and not at all related to my alignment but fine
are you making other reads that arent based on tone or are they mostly tonereads rn?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:27 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:26 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:25 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:19 pm I never got notified of the tag, but hey, I found the thread.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

full disclosure there are at least 4 names here that I'd strongly consider voting. If you're on that list and you're town, you'd better convince me of it.
and no, i'm not giving the list, it's in the N0 thread. do the work yourself.

This implies the existence of a vote list, instead its just "go read my iso to find out who I find scummy" there is no list. Just thought you should know

nope, i never gave it publicly as a numbered list for all the people who don't want to iso me in the N0 thread. that's your problem, not mine.
there are 4 people in here that i scumread and all 4 of them know who they are. the rest of you can actually fucking read my posts.

no thanks. I am here to relax. your Aura harshes my vibe brah

well, too bad.

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:26 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:25 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:19 pm I never got notified of the tag, but hey, I found the thread.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

full disclosure there are at least 4 names here that I'd strongly consider voting. If you're on that list and you're town, you'd better convince me of it.
and no, i'm not giving the list, it's in the N0 thread. do the work yourself.

This implies the existence of a vote list, instead its just "go read my iso to find out who I find scummy" there is no list. Just thought you should know

she probs has an NK priority list in scum chat with me at the top

might be what she was thinking of

why would i as scum bother killing you? you actually think you're that relevant?

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:26 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:24 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:23 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:21 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:20 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:19 pm I never got notified of the tag, but hey, I found the thread.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

full disclosure there are at least 4 names here that I'd strongly consider voting. If you're on that list and you're town, you'd better convince me of it.
and no, i'm not giving the list, it's in the N0 thread. do the work yourself.

I don't feel any need to convince you of anything given that I think we have different win conditions.

yeah, clearly we do. go find a different town to agenda push.

you dropped the "scum always leave me alone and town always push me" line real quick once you started feeling threatened huh

lol you think i feel threatened by you? get real.

yeah you're definitely not threatened by me that's why you want me to find someone else to push

great logic

do you see me voting you? no. do i give a shit? yes, as far as that you're picking the wrong player to push. if you think you can get a mislunch on me, then good luck i guess.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:25 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:19 pm I never got notified of the tag, but hey, I found the thread.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

full disclosure there are at least 4 names here that I'd strongly consider voting. If you're on that list and you're town, you'd better convince me of it.
and no, i'm not giving the list, it's in the N0 thread. do the work yourself.

This implies the existence of a vote list, instead its just "go read my iso to find out who I find scummy" there is no list. Just thought you should know

nope, i never gave it publicly as a numbered list for all the people who don't want to iso me in the N0 thread. that's your problem, not mine.
there are 4 people in here that i scumread and all 4 of them know who they are. the rest of you can actually fucking read my posts.

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2024 8:24 pm I'm like 95% wwa is town here

and why is that?