The Syndicate

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:39 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:37 pm As to why I'm voting falcon:

I'm opposed to voting neon
I'm mostly opposed to voting Kate at least today
Pyxxy is just not a wagon so whatever
I townread Seanzie and he's on falcon
Idk how to read Wilgy but I think(?) he might be onto something and I'm willing to entertain the idea that he's town
I wish wilgy would talk bc whatever he's doing isn't helping town, which means he's either useless in this state or bad.

I have a theory as to why he's only answering with yes/no but I also have an alternate theory which I like a lot less, lol

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:37 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:32 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:31 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:30 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:29 pm Frig now my phones dying.
Lol my phone died an hour ago but I revived it in time for this
Ok plugged in and raring to go.
Nice

If you could choose to build up a wagon on anyone right now, regardless of current vote status, where would it be?
Probably mac

What do you make of the vote movement around him? He had votes on him earlier, at least mine at some point and Seanzie's at a later point, don't recall who else. But right now he has no votes. Do you think it's because people changed their reads to thinking he's towny, or because wolves are pushing a wagon away from him?

As to why I'm voting falcon:

I'm opposed to voting neon
I'm mostly opposed to voting Kate at least today
Pyxxy is just not a wagon so whatever
I townread Seanzie and he's on falcon
Idk how to read Wilgy but I think(?) he might be onto something and I'm willing to entertain the idea that he's town

I mean if she flips wolf, good for us and I'll get turboed tomorrow so whatever, but I really think it's gonna be an "I told you so" and I'll get pushed anyway for TMI because that's the one thing I consistently do as a wolf

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:34 pm Ngl I'm still wary of pyxxy but I'm less certain than I was earlier
And he's not really a wagon rn
I'm hoping Neon comes back but I really really really think she hasn't noticed she's a leading wagon yet

And this is why all the neurons are firing in my brain telling me to push a counterwagon

Ngl I'm still wary of pyxxy but I'm less certain than I was earlier
And he's not really a wagon rn
I'm hoping Neon comes back but I really really really think she hasn't noticed she's a leading wagon yet

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:31 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:30 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:29 pm Frig now my phones dying.
Lol my phone died an hour ago but I revived it in time for this
Ok plugged in and raring to go.

Nice

If you could choose to build up a wagon on anyone right now, regardless of current vote status, where would it be?

Where are people, is it an inconvenient EoD? I'm usually the one complaining about deadlines since I'm on central euro time but I expected more of the American timezones to be awake

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:29 pm Frig now my phones dying.

Lol my phone died an hour ago but I revived it in time for this

I had put 5/10 on falcon cause i was thinking 0/10 meant I was confident I was wrong but that doesn't make any sense

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:28 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:27 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:26 pm @pyxxy if you wanna sheep me you have a chance to tie the falcon wagon with the neon wagon

I wish I could say more than that I still think falcon is a shrug yeet but I do think Neon is town
Like on a scale of 1 to 10 how confident are ye?
I'm 5/10 on falcon and I'm 8/10 on neon

I think I screwed up the scale, lemme try that again. I meant falcon was a 50/50 not that I'm halfway confident lmao.

I think there is a 50% chance falcon flips town, maybe a bit less
I think there is an 80% chance Neon flips town
Idk how to word this better

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:27 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:26 pm @pyxxy if you wanna sheep me you have a chance to tie the falcon wagon with the neon wagon

I wish I could say more than that I still think falcon is a shrug yeet but I do think Neon is town
Like on a scale of 1 to 10 how confident are ye?

I'm 5/10 on falcon and I'm 8/10 on neon

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:26 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:25 pm Can you guys please get off of Neon
And to a lesser extent, also get off of Kate?
We have wolves to kill.
To whom?

I'm going for falcon because he's a wagon I'm not opposed to
I'm not going to be dumb and start a vanity wagon on a whim in the last half hour of the day

@pyxxy if you wanna sheep me you have a chance to tie the falcon wagon with the neon wagon

I wish I could say more than that I still think falcon is a shrug yeet but I do think Neon is town

Can you guys please get off of Neon
And to a lesser extent, also get off of Kate?
We have wolves to kill.

Ok anyway enough about Dennis cause I'm not interested in wagoning him for today, it's just food for thought cause I don't really have the time or motivation to do any solving tomorrow.

I mean he even commented on my Seanzie case where I explicitly said (for the 20th time) that Seanzie was not playing like in the champs practice game, and just came away with saying it felt like my case was off and that I wasn't playing like in that game, either.

And like Seanzie, I also said I was aware I was playing differently. But I don't see Dennis going after Seanzie, I see Dennis going after me for going after Seanzie with a near identical case.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:21 pm Ok well there wasnt much to backread and I didn't glean anything from it except that I noticed Dennis is voting me because he thinks I'm not playing like in the champs practice game, and yet he faults me for voting Seanzie for not playing like in the champs practice game, and that's... Some sort of weird double standard?

Like is this a wolfy thing from him or is it just Dennis not noticing that he's doing the exact same thing I did earlier in the game lol

Ok well there wasnt much to backread and I didn't glean anything from it except that I noticed Dennis is voting me because he thinks I'm not playing like in the champs practice game, and yet he faults me for voting Seanzie for not playing like in the champs practice game, and that's... Some sort of weird double standard?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:43 pm alternatively you could go back to being afk falcon

trying to get back into this game has gotten me zero satisfaction and the privilege of yet again being a wagon

so I can't recommend actively playing in good faith

Tbh the thread has been a bit weird today and I'm not sure why that is
And at least in my case it's cause I'm wary of your wolf game because I'm aware youre capable of talking yourself out of getting scumread as scum lol

Fuck it you guys are gonna tell me to backread or something so maybe I should do that instead of packing my suitcase

Like if she is completely outed as a wolf then I'd appreciate someone telling me about it
Otherwise too bad, you're not getting my vote there

Also what's with the wagon on her, did I miss something?

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Just so it's super clear I will actively move my vote to avoid a neon lunch

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:08 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:33 pm I haven't been this lost in a game in quite sometime. And I played while I was delirious with the covick.
Yeah, that covick sure is a bitch.

I read and reread some more, and I am seeing the Nutella I saw in GOC. So I'm back to square one as well.

I have no idea what to think of Mac; I thought he had some kind of curse that led him to post like he was and to lie about you agreeing with him that I was bad, so I ignored it at that point until I realized he was posting normally.
This is a progression on Neon,

Today, 3:59 AM
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:59 am nah nah neon is wolfy as lol
Today, 4:55 PM

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:55 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:22 pm Here comes the neon save. I think we found the hit.
I am town and I think Neon is town.
In between these two he called one of her posts "trash", but then he replied to this:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:24 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:06 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:59 am nah nah neon is wolfy as lol
I thought her earlier posts were wolfy and her posts today were better than yesterday's
yeah but like I'm waiting for neon to explode in a ball of townfire and need it before I'm gonna give them a full clear
So not sure what's going on with him, but after that lying and letting me think he was cursed:

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:27 am You're right about it being a blessing. I've never been more thrilled.
As for my other two voters, Windward felt opportunistic. They came up with a sudden suspicion never before mentioned, although they discussed other suspicions previously, not sure why they would sit on this one?

Neon also felt opportunistic, BUT BUT, she always suspects me, it would not be a complete game if she didn't vote for me at some point. But I'll vote for her if I have to to save Kate. Transparency for the win.

As for everyone else, I am not sure I townread Dennis, he's still POE for me. Wilgy I honestly have no clue; I really wish he had chosen licking this game as opposed to one monosyllabic word. I felt pretty good about Falcon before, and still do. I felt good about Porscha earlier on, but she seems to have fallen off? I don't have alot of experience with her. Is this a tell for her? Pyxxy I have no feel for I haven't really interacted with them, but I did agree with the points he made about TSP. When TSP was here, he was really here, and I felt pretty good about him. But while Pyxxy and I don't seem to have much in the way of similar opinions, I don't feel he has an agenda. Sean doesn't look anything like he looked in GOC when we were bad together.

@RondoDimBuckle I am sorry for the part I had in yeeting your jolly goodtime presence.

So I will [VOTE: Neon] aubergine at this time. I feel more that Windward is bad, but it could also be residual "all at once" hangover, plus I don't believe Kate is bad. Like at all.

And again, I apologize to all for my part in downer thread, it won't happen again.

Idk why you're avoiding voting me, you could get nutella to vote me as well if you wanted to flip me first

Thing is, I still think Neon is town and I will probably die on that hill because I'm travelling for a long weekend by the start of the next day and will not have time to read the game

So keeping me alive, as town, is completely useless
And keeping me alive, as a wolf, would also be useless because I won't be around to spew my partners.

[VOTE: pyxxy] aubergine

Welp.

Can someone please tell me which partner to bus? My memory is a bit foggy, I think I forgot who my teammates were.

I came into the thread to save my partner from a yeet but I don't actually know who I'm supposed to save

Like do you guys really seriously think Neon is wolfing, and if so, can you give me a good enough case that would persuade me to change my opinion?

I think I missed the neon wagon when I was looking at VC for a moment there

Why??

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:53 pm [VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

okay sorry, I'm not trying to ruin the game for you, I'm legit just trying to have fun

so I'm out, I'll just afk on unvote until like 15 minutes from EOD and see what my Sheepdra has decided

peace

Lol didn't you also insist that I was super towny in the last game, even before i was confirmed as pr?

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Honestly idk what I'm doing but I want competing wagons and not dead air at EoD

Hey look @nutella im spewing falcon as town and Kate as my partner, you should totally read into it

I lied lol, I'm not backreading everything but I've skimmed this page at least

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:46 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:41 pm [VOTE: tsp] aubergine

For old time sake
No

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Oh finally, a no
Guess wilgy's getting down to business, huh

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:40 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:37 am
S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:13 am
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 11:06 pm @S~V~S @pyxxy @Dennis the town needs to consolidate today.

Dennis wtf are you?
At the time you made this post, I was in bed. I get up at 5 AM.

At this point this thread is toxic for me, and my opinions are all OMGUSed up. I can't differentiate my own opinions from my feelings on how suspicion was brought to bear on me last night, so I'm doing town a favor by not being here, tbh. I might make another vote that sucks, and we can't have that.

I couldn't care less about the votes on me, but I really dislike the votes on you. @pyxxy , @DrWilgy , you should really reconsider.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:41 am Pyxxy and svs votes on nutella both suck
Like, first off, nutella is town
Second, the timing of both votes was terrible
But idk if they're partnered because pushing on nutella when the thread has moved away from flipping nutella today seems kinda counterproductive so I'm thinking only one of them is a wolf for it
Would still yeet svs first and then pyxxy if svs flips town
Idk why I'm saying anything at all since yesterday I didn't want to share reads but today I'm just throwing things everywhere
So yesterday, you were sure I was pocketing you. NOW you're talking about what happens if I flip civ.

So which is it? You still think I was pocketing you, or you think I was trying to be friendly with someone who seemed astute, friendly and involved to me?

Have a great day everyone!
Sorry you don't like the pressure on you, this game isn't supposed to be toxic

I don't see what's wrong with saying I'm 95% sure you're scum??? If I were 100% sure I would have to be a wolf who either has TMI and is bussing you, or is agenda pushing. I don't think being extremely confident is required of town but maybe we disagree on play styles.
This really isn't answering the question I asked. Do you still think I was pocketing you? I read over your interactions with me, and I didn't say anything to or about you that I (or anyone else) wouldn't say about someone they were townreading while trying to form a personal towncore. Out of everything that was said last night, that was the thing that bowled me over the most. That saying that I thought you were town was pocketing you. Becasue that was your original reason for suspecting me, right?

And it wasn't so much the pressure, it was the coming from everywhere all at once (heh) part that kinda derailed me somewhat. I got over it

Idk it depends on if i feel like scumreading you or not
I did think you were very pockety earlier and you've been less pockety toward me once you started actually direction questions at me about it
Not sure if that's the answer you expected to hear, or if you were looking for some other type of response, but that's about it

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:41 pm [VOTE: tsp] aubergine

For old time sake

Where the heck did you come from

What's the current case on Kate? I thought the thread decided she was less wolfy than svs earlier but there's no svs wagon now

I'm not gonna back read because I don't care, I have irl stuff to do but ill hang around for as long as I can and hopefully make it to eod

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:47 pm actually you know what would be extra funny

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine

who wants to bet that the Kate wagon disappears just like the Nutella one did

also @/anyone, venmo me $10 and I'll vote for your wagon and it'll disappear

if it worked for Nutella it can work for you!

(it's not personal Kate, strictly business)

cc @Neon you might want this service soon

I'm not in the mood for a Kate wagon, I'd rather flip me at this point

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:17 pm if you want homework read wind's mentions of falcon from today/last night

Sorry to burst your bubble but it's pretty useless to read that after I flip town
unlike the champs practice game, I don't have any sort of TMI because I'm not a PR and have no leverage. People would absolutely have voted me out or at least sussed me the entire game if I hadn't claimed on D1 but that's how it usually is for me. I'm not a very strong town player, and I'm an even weaker wolf because I usually get voted out D1 or D2.

Sorry I think I was trying to look through your iso an hour ago and fell asleep lol
I'll get back to it later

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:01 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:41 am Should I leave my vote on pyxxy? Or should I go the AtE route and vote myself? Or just openwolf and vote sleep? It's hard to choose.

^is my response after catching up again

I would poke you about one thing. I think my tone is very similar to last game when I was wolfing. But my content is shite this time around

I mean, I didn't even do anything D1 and Rondo still got killed XDDDDDDDD

Truly undermines any belief that I actually influenced the thread last game

OK now I'm back to this post

Yeah, I did notice you put out less content so far in this game. Lol

But I don't really think that being less productive in the thread makes you townier

I mean, in fairness it doesn't look identical to the last game, but you faced early pressure there and had to work a bit to get people off you on various occasions until I was the only one voting you for a couple days. And you kept up that level of content just enough that you were basically not suspected by more than one or two people at a time, and never really pushed as a viable wagon after the first few days.

In contrast, in this game you never started with any pressure on you. Yoy even had some people vouching that you're town here for reasons that aren't really any stronger than my reasons for suspecting you. Only Neon has been vocal about thinking you're scummy, and I just straight defaulted you to my PoE because I didn't see anything that gave me the impression you were townier or solvier than in your wolf game.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 1:06 pm given I don't feel that in touch I'm just going to sheep my personal hydra of TSPorschWWA

Ohh so that's what this meant when you said it before

Lol

I wanted to go out to briefly enjoy the sun for the hour it was out, but got stuck finishing work and now the sun is gone

pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:57 pm was my Nutella vote really that bad >.<

It felt very poorly timed and I am very sure she's town at this point
Plus a few other people whom I think are town are also saying nutella is towny, as an added bonus

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:50 am If I'm sparse for the rest of the day it's because making the most of the first 70+ degree day in Chicago of the year is far more essential to my mental health than arguing with people on the internet. Love and boba to all

I don't blame you, we had spring weather over here this weekend and I went out to enjoy it instead of sitting at home online lol
Enjoy the weather!

Hmm I had a thought
That maybe I should look at the D1 nutella wagon again but in more detail
And ISO everyone who was on it other than Mac and myself (and I only make an exception for Mac because I remember thinking his early posts were NAI or slightly wolfy but then he did several towny things, so I'm aware there was a shift in gears)

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:54 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:51 am
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:50 am
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:45 am
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:42 am So I said this once many pages ago, but oftentimes the town is out and loud and spinning their wheels. Let's all take a collective deep breath and just take a moment to consider those that aren't a part of this scrum.

Wilgy
Dennis
Falcon
Tsp
Wilgy and falcon are shrugyeet tier for me
Dennis and TSP are just barely afloat and I probably would only move there if I had to
Why isn't pyxxy in your list? He's barely said anything at all, all day.
There was a point that I wanted to believe he was civ but youre right he should be included.
Do you remember what it was that you thought was towny from him?
Yea he was supporting me in my defense of svs and my feeling mac (and nutella?)was off course, but in retrospect that was all heat of the moment stuff. He just happened to be here.

BTW, Dennis being just barely afloat is a bad sign. Also that I've pinged him like 50x. Neon, you must agree with that, at least.

I meant barely afloat above my null line, lol
Dennis has still posted more than you, but less recently and with more fluff in proportion to content. I thought that might just be because this was meant to be a friendly, wholesome game, and I still think his weird Kate-is-a-cop assumption and outing it in the thread was a newbie town move, but I will agree it's not a full clear on him.

Asking cause I legitimately couldve missed something

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