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by WindwardAway
Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:30 am
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

leetic wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:52 am
WindwardAway wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:25 pm The people who pushed Nutella late in the game are all flipped townies now. Radishes, TSP and Nanook. I really don't get it.
Hmm... I don't see why you would've killed nutella /s
Has it occcured to you for even one second that I'm not stupid enough to kill someone that everyone else EXCEPT me thinks is PoE?
by WindwardAway
Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:29 am
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

leetic wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:51 am
WindwardAway wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:39 pm But wouldn't that have to be Delta?
Should I reconsider leetic? I find it a little odd that he doesn't think the TSP poison came from town, but maybe I'm the odd one.
I don't think it's likely that Epi is a wolf, especially if he's the one who poisoned TSP, but it's not like all my reads have been that great. It's been a mixed bag.
I do feel fairly confident that Sig is town, though.
Why would town poison TSP when wolves are considerably more likely to come from the other side? Hell, the poison could have solved the Davos problem, but whatever. This feels like flailing
Because town was busy speculating on whether there was a wolf on your side too yesterday?
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:44 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

I'm just dooming over a worst-case scenario, though. I should probably keep it in my head instead of inconveniencing the thread with it. I'll shut up for now.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:43 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

I think my post got eaten, wtf
I hit post and it vanished
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:39 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

But wouldn't that have to be Delta?
Should I reconsider leetic? I find it a little odd that he doesn't think the TSP poison came from town, but maybe I'm the odd one.
I don't think it's likely that Epi is a wolf, especially if he's the one who poisoned TSP, but it's not like all my reads have been that great. It's been a mixed bag.
I do feel fairly confident that Sig is town, though.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:37 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

Actually, she might have been killed for backing Radishes on the notion that there's a wolf on the West side
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:25 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

The people who pushed Nutella late in the game are all flipped townies now. Radishes, TSP and Nanook. I really don't get it.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:22 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

Btw if someone gets another vig or poison today, can you please kill Davos so we can see their alignment?
Or at least, keep it on East Facility, don't waste it on West. You have a couple days to vote people in West out once East is dead, after all.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:17 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

@DrWilgy I am voting you as pure PoE again, and I expect that you'll crossvote me in return. But I genuinely want your take on this, too.

I want to get a discussion going, regardless of how today turns out, or which one of us flips, because there's a wolf outside the two of us. Whether it's Davos or someone from the West Facility, they have a pretty good chance of making it to XyLo since I expect that both of us are going to flip before that.

I'll probably flip first, since the nutella kill unquestionably implicates me since I insisted all of yesterday that she was town, against everyone else's paranoia. And that's fine, I'm not going to fight it. But I do want to figure out the solve before I die, because I don't want town to be too shortsighted to pull this off.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:03 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

Look, whether I like it or not, I'm gonna be crossvoting Wilgy today. But we're not both wolves, and that is exactly why the wolf killed Nutella. There is no other reason for it. It's either Davos if they are a separate player, or someone on the West side.
And I understand that you guys will have to vote me out, as well as Wilgy, in whatever order you want. It doesn't matter. There is no way you should let the two of us live to endgame at this point.
But you are going to have a very hard time sniffing out the last wolf once both Wilgy and I have flipped, and I just hope you can pull through.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:59 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

leetic wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:07 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:53 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:22 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:19 pm That poison on TSP sure was disappointing, btw
Not the worst choice I guess, but still disappointing
Probably either a wolf ability, or an effect of the card that TSP chose
Why would you jump to assuming it would be strictly from a wolf?
I said I believe it came from town, because I believe I know who it was from, and I think they're town.
You have no comment on that?
Why would town kill in my side when the wolves are likely from the other side? TSP wasn't even under as much scrutiny as say Delta
Because someone from your side did, in fact, vote TSP yesterday?
I'm just saying, I don't think it was impossible to come from town. At the very least it keeps us from tinfoiling TSP, although as you said, he wasn't under as much scrutiny as Delta.
If you were a wolf and had a free shot of poison, wouldn't you want to take out an obvtown instead? If nobody knows who it's coming from, why would the choice of poison target matter?
Alternatively, a wolf might want to take out someone who's campaigning against them, but TSP only voted Nutella yesterday and now she's flipped town.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:53 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

leetic wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:22 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:19 pm That poison on TSP sure was disappointing, btw
Not the worst choice I guess, but still disappointing
Probably either a wolf ability, or an effect of the card that TSP chose
Why would you jump to assuming it would be strictly from a wolf?
I said I believe it came from town, because I believe I know who it was from, and I think they're town.
You have no comment on that?
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:52 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

leetic wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:21 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:18 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:16 pm Do we think there's a realistic chance that Davos *is* an external player? Did you guys ever discuss in the West Facility whether you thought Scrappy was one of you, or an external player?
Just because I'm considering whether it's possible for Davos to be a wolf without being attached to anyone in East (Wilgy/me). I'm not really sure Wilgy would speculate on whether Davos is an external player or not if he's the puppetmaster, and Davos's votes haven't matched with Wilgy's, either. And Cape's flip proves it's impossible for Davos to belong to anyone from West.
The only reason this is important is because if it is a separate player, then Davos could be a wolf we're letting skate by because of the assumption they're attached to someone.
If they're an outside player, it doesn't matter because they've done jack shit anyway. The only reason to be interested in such a concern is for looking at meta/etc., which wouldn't be helpful anyway given Davos's ISO. This looks like a distraction at this point.
I mean if we're going back to the discussion we had yesterday about whether davos's vote counts or not
Then what if they're a wolf not tied to another player and we need to kill them?
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:51 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

If Davos is a viable lunch option I would definitely include them in the PoE, fwiw
Right now I believe it's Wilgy/Delta if Davos is not a separate player, but if Davos is separate then I think they can be one of the wolves

Idk why I typed this post and never actually hit send lol, sorry
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:19 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

I strongly believe it was a town choice, though
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:19 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

That poison on TSP sure was disappointing, btw
Not the worst choice I guess, but still disappointing
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:18 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

WindwardAway wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:16 pm Do we think there's a realistic chance that Davos *is* an external player? Did you guys ever discuss in the West Facility whether you thought Scrappy was one of you, or an external player?
Just because I'm considering whether it's possible for Davos to be a wolf without being attached to anyone in East (Wilgy/me). I'm not really sure Wilgy would speculate on whether Davos is an external player or not if he's the puppetmaster, and Davos's votes haven't matched with Wilgy's, either. And Cape's flip proves it's impossible for Davos to belong to anyone from West.
The only reason this is important is because if it is a separate player, then Davos could be a wolf we're letting skate by because of the assumption they're attached to someone.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:16 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

Do we think there's a realistic chance that Davos *is* an external player? Did you guys ever discuss in the West Facility whether you thought Scrappy was one of you, or an external player?
Just because I'm considering whether it's possible for Davos to be a wolf without being attached to anyone in East (Wilgy/me). I'm not really sure Wilgy would speculate on whether Davos is an external player or not if he's the puppetmaster, and Davos's votes haven't matched with Wilgy's, either. And Cape's flip proves it's impossible for Davos to belong to anyone from West.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:14 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

leetic wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:09 pm
leetic wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:05 pm So interesting kill. I don't know why wolves would kill nutella here, as it extremely narrows the possibility of who the wolves can be regardless of how nutella flips. The only way I could see it happening is if wolves were really confident they could win if only the other team gets destroyed.
So, what that tells me is the culprit is someone who gambled on nutella and lost. That might point to WWA, as I can see them being confident that the could win a thunderdome with Wilgy. Still, nutella did suspect Wilgy for a while, but that would be a major strategical blunder from Wilgy unless they have an ace up their sleeve like Davos being a wolf.
I actually have zero confidence I'd win a thunderdome against Wilgy. I was going to thunderdome Nutella with the assumption I had a 50/50 shot or slightly less of winning. It's probably a good thing I didn't have to do that 😬
But Wilgy went from everyone's poe to everyone's not-poe yesterday, with the exception of Radishes who voted Wilgy until it looked like he was doomed. So honestly? Idk what the strategy is. I know everything I say can be easily faked, but I'm just as confused as you are because I was so sure someone in West Facility was going to die. If both wolves had been in East, it would make sense for both of them to kill in West to try to keep themselves afloat. If one wolf was on each side, it would still make more sense to kill in West because the East wolf wouldn't know, and the West wolf would want to keep the PoE in the East. So none of this makes any sense to me.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:10 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

I came up with this whole theory overnight that the Davos account belonged to Nutella and she was using it to try to clear herself as a wolf 😅 but I'm guessing Davos would've vanished if it were nutella's, and Nutella flipped town anyway so that whole point is moot.

But in that case it has to be Wilgy, unless it's an external player.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:07 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

leetic wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:06 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:05 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

You have no fucking clue how weird I feel about all of this, btw
So, if threads are even, you're a wolf. How do you plead?
I plead not guilty.
But that solves the Davos mystery for me.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:07 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

leetic wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:05 pm So interesting kill. I don't know why wolves would kill nutella here, as it extremely narrows the possibility of who the wolves can be regardless of how nutella flips. The only way I could see it happening is if wolves were really confident they could win if only the other team gets destroyed.
To me it proves we have an extra wolf on the West side, tbh.
I'm not sure why they'd want to prove that, though. Seems to me the kill would've come from whoever that is, though, because logically a wolf on the East side wouldn't want to box themselves in like this.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:05 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

You have no fucking clue how weird I feel about all of this, btw
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:03 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

Im not going to claim food btw. I think that's best left to people who aren't in the PoE. I'll claim one of the other items if it prevents a wolf from getting them, though.
by WindwardAway
Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:02 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 7]

Well
I guess I wasted my night worrying that I was actually wrong on Nutella lmao
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:00 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pm I do see the second D4 vote now, btw, and Davos dug a hole (which makes sense since scrappy could too)
That's proof that they count: Scrappy's hole killed them
That was event participation, though
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pm
Delta wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:57 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pm
Delta wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:54 pm what actually is stopping us from voting davos btw
Nothing tbh
But if it's a player listed as playing in the game, then whatever Davos is likely doesn't count toward parity, so we'd get their flip but it probably equates to a no-lunch
If they're a wolf, they have to count as that vote could help control the lynch?
mentioned earlier but I dont think the puppet votes are weighted, if that changes anything ?_?
Do you have evidence that they don't? I don't know what purpose they'd have if they couldn't vote
There haven't been close enough wagons that we'd know for sure
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:59 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

I do see the second D4 vote now, btw, and Davos dug a hole (which makes sense since scrappy could too)
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:58 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

Do we actually think Davos is trying to shift the wagon onto Nutella?
They also voted Nutella in East previously
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:57 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

But then idk why they'd exist in the first place lol
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:57 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pm
Delta wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:54 pm what actually is stopping us from voting davos btw
Nothing tbh
But if it's a player listed as playing in the game, then whatever Davos is likely doesn't count toward parity, so we'd get their flip but it probably equates to a no-lunch
If they're a wolf, they have to count as that vote could help control the lynch?
Could be that it doesn't actually count
I'll check east tonight but I think Davos was always off-wagon?
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:56 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

Delta wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:54 pm what actually is stopping us from voting davos btw
Nothing tbh
But if it's a player listed as playing in the game, then whatever Davos is likely doesn't count toward parity, so we'd get their flip but it probably equates to a no-lunch
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:55 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:54 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:53 pm
Delta wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:51 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:50 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm

6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.
I highly doubt it's 6v2
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
That would mean that one wolf team is more powerful than the other. It would also mean Davos has to be Lemonfairy (unlikely) or Brad, as otherwise one team would have only one vote in the thread compared to the other team's three
Not necessarily. I have reason to believe Davos has a heavy post AND vote restriction, and as such I believe the other team could easily have some kind of compensatory role like a secret double voter or something.
?????????
Let's just say I think he's restricted to one post/vote per day
That's all he ever did in East Facility
And once the threads merged? I've seen even less.
They posted/voted twice on D4? That may be why they hadn't posted D5 however
Wait, really? In that case I missed it
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:54 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:53 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:50 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.
I highly doubt it's 6v2
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
That would mean that one wolf team is more powerful than the other. It would also mean Davos has to be Lemonfairy (unlikely) or Brad, as otherwise one team would have only one vote in the thread compared to the other team's three
Not necessarily. I have reason to believe Davos has a heavy post AND vote restriction, and as such I believe the other team could easily have some kind of compensatory role like a secret double voter or something.
If that kind of role was in play, surely we'd have seen evidence by now? That could have flipped the falcon lynch for instance
Hadn't Davos already voted that day? Check the vote history. Because I don't think they can move their vote after they've placed it.
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:53 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

Davos wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:52 pm Arrr

[VOTE: Nutella ] aubergine
Speak of the devil
by WindwardAway
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

Delta wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:51 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:50 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.
I highly doubt it's 6v2
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
That would mean that one wolf team is more powerful than the other. It would also mean Davos has to be Lemonfairy (unlikely) or Brad, as otherwise one team would have only one vote in the thread compared to the other team's three
Not necessarily. I have reason to believe Davos has a heavy post AND vote restriction, and as such I believe the other team could easily have some kind of compensatory role like a secret double voter or something.
?????????
Let's just say I think he's restricted to one post/vote per day
That's all he ever did in East Facility
And once the threads merged? I've seen even less.
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:52 pm
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Topic: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [GAME OVER- SERIAL KILLER WINS]
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

Delta wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:48 pm I thought I had a gotcha on Radishes earlier today and then sorta dropped it but kept it in the back of my mind.
I think his exit is townier than not, but it's all WIFOM in the end. And Wilgy has done enough that I don't want to vote him anymore.
what was the gotcha?
When he was asked today why he voted Alison over Brad on D1 in East Facility, and he said he wanted to ensure a counterwagon existed. My case was that his primary reason shouldve been that he scumread Alison, but he argued that it was implicit that he scumread her or he wouldn't have picked her as a counterwagon.
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:50 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:49 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pm
leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.
I highly doubt it's 6v2
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
That would mean that one wolf team is more powerful than the other. It would also mean Davos has to be Lemonfairy (unlikely) or Brad, as otherwise one team would have only one vote in the thread compared to the other team's three
Not necessarily. I have reason to believe Davos has a heavy post AND vote restriction, and as such I believe the other team could easily have some kind of compensatory role like a secret double voter or something.
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:48 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [GAME OVER- SERIAL KILLER WINS]
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

I thought I had a gotcha on Radishes earlier today and then sorta dropped it but kept it in the back of my mind.
I think his exit is townier than not, but it's all WIFOM in the end. And Wilgy has done enough that I don't want to vote him anymore.
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:47 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

Epignosis wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:44 pm
Delta wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm I dunno

I do think at the very least MR's exit felt more townie. Kinda just leaves it out of his hands, and hands over control completely while also raising some p important points. Assuming its 4 people per team, it's just gg for his to do that which I dont think final wolf on either team is really looking to do right now x_x
Yeah I know, that's what I've been turning over in my head
I mean the self-vote is meaningless, but leaving when he's top wagon is kinda not what I'd expect from a wolf
Idk
I don't see why you're voting Master Radishes. Granted, I glanced.
Because I still believe we should vote someone in East at least for today, and I believe both Wilgy and Nutella are townier than Radishes.
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:46 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm
WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
6 wolves in one side and 2 in the other is such an absurd distribution though, especially as the flipped ITP on your side appears to be non-hostile while it is unclear whether or not Sloonei was hostile.
I highly doubt it's 6v2
I think the only chance the distribution is uneven is if Davos is a wolf puppet, and their owner is in East, and that extra vote skews the distribution so that one wolf of the opposite team is in West instead
So 3/5 with East having 3+Davos and West having 5
That's the only way, other than 4/4, I could see it being split.
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:44 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [GAME OVER- SERIAL KILLER WINS]
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

Delta wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm I dunno

I do think at the very least MR's exit felt more townie. Kinda just leaves it out of his hands, and hands over control completely while also raising some p important points. Assuming its 4 people per team, it's just gg for his to do that which I dont think final wolf on either team is really looking to do right now x_x
Yeah I know, that's what I've been turning over in my head
I mean the self-vote is meaningless, but leaving when he's top wagon is kinda not what I'd expect from a wolf
Idk
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:43 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

My gut tells me a wolf wouldn't self-vote here, but considering the self-votes don't count I'm just gonna assume it isn't anything worth factoring in
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:42 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

leetic wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:41 pm The power's back on, just in time for EoD. Let me know if anything happened I should focus on.
Radishes is top wagon rn but not by much since he self-voted
And someone is poisoned
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

Epignosis wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm I think TSP talked more about cards this phase than people.
At least he talked about Nutella briefly
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:39 pm
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

I felt confident earlier that we would win this game, regardless of whether I get yeeted today or not, because I was shutting out any paranoia about uneven wolf distributions. So I wasn't concerned at all with it, and I figured I had it coming after I pushed Nook way harder than anyone else yesterday. But as I said before, it's kinda opened a can of worms now and there is not only a danger that we yeet all of East when there might be a wolf in West, but there is also a danger that all the wolves really are in East but we go for someone in West and lose the game that way.
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:35 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
Topic: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [GAME OVER- SERIAL KILLER WINS]
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

WindwardAway wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:33 pm
Delta wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:30 pm I dunno, if your thoughts are 'my facility has all the wolves' you're sat with a much narrower POE and should be able to navigate it over offering yourself, which would then give the opposite impression to 'wolves are all in this facility'
When I said that, I just assumed if my facility has all the wolves and we yeet all of the people in my facility, including me, we are guaranteed a win.

I don't particularly like entertaining paranoia about the West facility but I also don't want to be the one who loses us the game by insisting that we yeet everyone in East including myself.

So idk anymore.
On a side note I also dislike being alive in XyLo because I hate being the game-losing misyeet, but I hate even more when I'm asked to place a vote and I vote wrong. Which on my record has been nearly every time up until this past year.
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:33 pm
Forum: Previous Sit Downs
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

Delta wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:30 pm I dunno, if your thoughts are 'my facility has all the wolves' you're sat with a much narrower POE and should be able to navigate it over offering yourself, which would then give the opposite impression to 'wolves are all in this facility'
When I said that, I just assumed if my facility has all the wolves and we yeet all of the people in my facility, including me, we are guaranteed a win.

I don't particularly like entertaining paranoia about the West facility but I also don't want to be the one who loses us the game by insisting that we yeet everyone in East including myself.

So idk anymore.
by WindwardAway
Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:31 pm
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Topic: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [GAME OVER- SERIAL KILLER WINS]
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Re: Game of Champions- Merged Thread [Day 6]

Delta wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:28 pm WWA why is it you keep offering yourself up as a vote? ?_?

I can understand the thought about your facility having the wolves, but surely from that standpoint - assuming its accurate? - you should be able to work down the list of potential wolves pretty well. Instead you keep saying 'oh if you guys need you can flip me first'
Because I don't have the energy to put in more effort than I already have, lol
I've gone back and forth on both Wilgy and Radishes today, I believe at least one of them is mafia who's put in a decent effort today, I still believe Nutella is town, and I'm not sure whether I believe there's a wolf in West but I don't actually want to think too hard about it.

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