The Syndicate

I would think a wolf would want to solve the game at that point yesterday, when it's LyLo for town and wolves have another day to figure out what they're doing. But maybe it benefits them more to keep the other wolf alive for another day, to guarantee that town doesn't win? Or it might depend on the...

Doing a quick skim of yesterday and I just feel no urgency from Delta to solve I mean yeah it could be easily explained by Wilgy being pretty much guaranteed to flip by popular vote Which is why I said yesterday it felt like Delta was just sitting back and letting things happen. But I don't know if ...

I feel like Delta is almost too obviously scummy at this point but I know it's not a good basis for a read

but would they really be so lost in the thread as a wolf?

And since I'm not gonna be around for the last 12 or so hours I feel like my time is better spent figuring out to vote? I'm not surprised at all that im alive in LyLo, normally I'd think it's because my reads are wrong but in this case I'm fairly sure it's just because I'm PoE

I always feel so awkward when defending myself lol, cause it's never really my primary focus

At a glance, the Epi kill seems to point to Delta. Epi was pretty much focused on Delta (and Wilgy), to the exclusion of anyone else. The thing is, does WWA have a better target here? Well, Epi cased me specifically as an Arbiter a couple days back, so if there's any reason why I'd kill him, I'd sa...

Good morning! Have a busy day but I want to put time into solving the last wolf, so I'll be around more after I finish work for the day to get through ISOing.

@WindwardAway what is the plan when I flip town? Honestly, I think we just lose if you flip town I've put all my eggs in one basket, there is still a wolf in the West but I have much higher certainty on you If you flip town I'm already way off-base anyway, I haven't reconsidered leetic since yester...

You were asking WWA their plan for when you flip, why is it now game over? ?_? Because I don't think we've delt with either team. When I flip, there's a high chance it'll be T/A/L next cycle. That's going to be an absolute nightmare, holy shit Good thing I don't believe it will be the case, I guess...

@WindwardAway what is the plan when I flip town? Honestly, I think we just lose if you flip town I've put all my eggs in one basket, there is still a wolf in the West but I have much higher certainty on you If you flip town I'm already way off-base anyway, I haven't reconsidered leetic since yester...

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:52 pm [VOTE: DRWILGY] aubergine

just to get a vote down, v sorry about that :,)

Interesting

Bleh, I feel like I'm losing us the game, but the only person who's voted me and interacted with me or anything I've had to say is the person I'm voting lol. I guess that means I shouldn't feel too bad. Good luck if there's a f3. If we get there, please town side Delta lol. This is the one thing I ...

@WindwardAway what is the plan when I flip town? Honestly, I think we just lose if you flip town I've put all my eggs in one basket, there is still a wolf in the West but I have much higher certainty on you If you flip town I'm already way off-base anyway, I haven't reconsidered leetic since yester...

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:46 pm fuck me that feels like such an awful way to disprove something

I didnt even realise that was a rule, sorry ;_;

It's a bit weird but tbh I'll take any hard evidence that presents itself

Delta, why didn't you vote Day 7? I froze up because I wasnt sure if voting Davos was the right move but thought Windward towntold near EOD so I was stuck kinda. decision paralysis I guess & it's silly, I shouldnt have, but it caught me because i thought their final posts EOD were townie Pretty...

Delta, why didn't you vote Day 7? I froze up because I wasnt sure if voting Davos was the right move but thought Windward towntold near EOD so I was stuck kinda. decision paralysis I guess & it's silly, I shouldnt have, but it caught me because i thought their final posts EOD were townie Pretty...

Delta, why didn't you vote Day 7? I froze up because I wasnt sure if voting Davos was the right move but thought Windward towntold near EOD so I was stuck kinda. decision paralysis I guess & it's silly, I shouldnt have, but it caught me because i thought their final posts EOD were townie Pretty...

@WindwardAway what is the plan when I flip town? Honestly, I think we just lose if you flip town I've put all my eggs in one basket, there is still a wolf in the West but I have much higher certainty on you If you flip town I'm already way off-base anyway, I haven't reconsidered leetic since yester...

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:17 pm
WindwardAway wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:13 pm Wait, why do you say unfalsifiable?
They're dead; we can no longer test such an idea

Ah yeah
I thought you meant there was evidence pointing one way or another

Yeah, five arbiters is probably a bit much and probably would mean the game is essentially settled by now. Then again, five landlords (counting Davos) isn't much better. Five per team would result in 10/32 wolves or a bit under 33%, which is acceptable for multiball but only if wolves kill every ni...

I *still* think Davos's vote didn't count, regardless of what the OP says about ties You can get on my case for it, it's fine, but I don't believe that was randomized Sure would be a shame if ties were arbiter controlled right? :dark: I think that would be too imbalanced if they win all ties Plus i...

Wait, why do you say unfalsifiable?

I *still* think Davos's vote didn't count, regardless of what the OP says about ties You can get on my case for it, it's fine, but I don't believe that was randomized That's basically unfalsifiable at this point. Although if Davos's votes don't count, why did they vote at all? WIFOM, or else voting...

Ties will not result in no-elimination ?? Ohhhhh Idk how I missed that 😅 ok then, so you think the vote randed? did you think ties were a no vote? !_! No, but I thought there would be some kind of host message about the vote randing if it was a rand Isn't there usually something about that? eh I as...

I *still* think Davos's vote didn't count, regardless of what the OP says about ties
You can get on my case for it, it's fine, but I don't believe that was randomized

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:04 pmbunkus

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Also, sorry, I fell asleep lmao. I'll stick around till eod though.

Ties will not result in no-elimination ?? Ohhhhh Idk how I missed that 😅 ok then, so you think the vote randed? did you think ties were a no vote? !_! No, but I thought there would be some kind of host message about the vote randing if it was a rand Isn't there usually something about that?

I dunno I'm focusing too much on puppet mech I'm unsure about considering the time I've had in this has been so limited On a broader scale, I do think final landlord lies within you two but like. If Davos was tied to a dead mafia, I dont know where that really leaves me? I dont think it's both of y...

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:27 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 7:43 pm Ties will not result in no-elimination
??

Ohhhhh
Idk how I missed that

ok then, so you think the vote randed?

Idk, would the game really be so uneven as to have that many wolves on the west side to begin with? Am I making the hosts laugh by speculating on a way wrong assumption? Maybe, but that would make the game incredibly difficult for town if no breadcrumbs were dropped about the wolf distribution. And ...

Yeah no, that checks out and from your perspective if Davos has to get connected to a living player it has to be me. I don't know if you're forcing that concept to push me here, but it's not true. I also don't know how to interpret it with you. Does Landlord WWA kill Nut risking themselves and the ...

Meaning that, in a LyLo situation, Davos would not count toward parity but it would essentially be a no-lunch in the landlords' favor since they already knew who Davos was. Giving landlords an advantage, but no extra vote, so it would just work as a bluff in the hopes town would fall for it and try ...

And then, if Davos didn't have a real vote, maybe they never had a real vote
And thus it would make way more sense for the landlord to be willing to sacrifice them

My thought was essentially that Davos's vote on me mightve been fake and it wasn't a real tie

I'm not Davos's puppet master. Why would I push you for the same reason? I've already explained why I don't think you are landlord, do you suddenly expect me to change those thoughts after successfully hitting the landlord in East? I didn't put effort into a case on you, you've basically all but sa...

I'm ngl, Wilgy's claim that my worldview is wrong kind of makes me think he actually isn't the landlord and I've caught him for the wrong reasons, and he's really the arbiter instead. What are these wrong reasons? That I've been pushing you all day as the landlord controlling Davos. I mean, your re...

I don't see why the idea of Brad being Davos should be so easily discounted. After all, it has been shown twice that socks don't die at the same time as their owners. Doing the bare minimum to avoid spewing is something I would easily see Brad doing. Still, if there is a remaining landlord, that wo...

I'm not Davos's puppet master. Why would I push you for the same reason? I've already explained why I don't think you are landlord, do you suddenly expect me to change those thoughts after successfully hitting the landlord in East? I didn't put effort into a case on you, you've basically all but sa...

I'm ngl, Wilgy's claim that my worldview is wrong kind of makes me think he actually isn't the landlord and I've caught him for the wrong reasons, and he's really the arbiter instead. What are these wrong reasons? That I've been pushing you all day as the landlord controlling Davos. I mean, your re...

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 19, 2024 2:21 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:31 pm I trust you and I trust leetic. Let's end this.
Epi's shifted view on me and WWA without much of anything here. This reeks.

I don't actually know why Epi trusts me now, considering he wrote an entire case on me earlier, but I don't think this post was scummy.

I don't see why the idea of Brad being Davos should be so easily discounted. After all, it has been shown twice that socks don't die at the same time as their owners. Doing the bare minimum to avoid spewing is something I would easily see Brad doing. Still, if there is a remaining landlord, that wo...

I'm not Davos's puppet master. Why would I push you for the same reason? I've already explained why I don't think you are landlord, do you suddenly expect me to change those thoughts after successfully hitting the landlord in East? I didn't put effort into a case on you, you've basically all but sa...

I should be more or less here for the rest of the day, btw, in case anyone's around

At this point NKA is probably futile since the kills are likely alternating and I would not be surprised at all if both wolves are trying to frame each other with the kills, lol.

Granted I’ve not playing with Wilgy since the summer I think, but he seeks to be so within his civ meta that I don’t want to vote there, voting Davos seems like a waste right now thag leaves WWA from the west or East This was the thing I remembered reading, though. I think if anything, I look worse...

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Ignoring the sock we’re at 4-1-1 If we misvote today and have 1 night kill then we’ve still got a final phase. Also the flip side with my Wilgy read is he could still be mafia just landlord. So there’s that I’ve got that end of game certainty now that the final two mafia are Wilgy and Leetic. I’ve ...

Actually I still think Wilgy is a wolf, but I don't think he'd make the sig kill tbh Problem is that I don't think he would've made the nutella kill, either, or at least not unless Davos would've remained in the game if Wilgy died. And I guess we'll never know if that was the case cause we already f...

[VOTE: Delta] aubergine

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