Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 7:50 pm
Alright I am gonna try solving this, i'm in the zone, listening to unfamiliar albums and ima be in the zone.
Sheep -
2493 seems like an odd comment to make considering that Sheep is now all of the sudden turning on me. Just reads as a lazy read to me, but then Sheep reconsidered so idk what that means either lol. I don't think Sheep is in wolf meta, their ideas are communicated clearer here then the wolf game I linked, and I didn't even mention that mash they just played on MU. Tinfoil says they were just tired of randing wolf making their wolf equity go up here. Not feeling it but thats why it's a tinfoil
. I'm not sure I buy the turn around on me just given you said
2465 about me being potentially townier then Porscha not too long ago (but it is put in a hedgy way in which you can retract such a statement easily).
Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:04 pm
seanzie's my top vote out of these wagons by default
but also i'm staying on pyxxy lol
Odd. Mostly because you are on that unvote button right now. I felt like the comments toward pyxxy's large post potentially making Sheep able to townread them was a weird/lazy/forced post (i cannot find this post that i have in my head, i saw this in real time).
Sheep's push on falcon feels NAI to me.
Sheep's recent posts are just strange and towny in this sort of mix.
Could be pocketing Porscha.
Sheep's back and forths with pyxxy have been just really ??? like I get they were pocketing Porscha and all that, but Sheep had posts like
2142 in pretty much the middle of their pyxxy push vote (**this could have been day 2 though I probs should have checked**)
IDK I still feel like Sheep is town though, that's the thing
but im dropping to
townlean for confusing me as of recent.
Porscha - I still feel like Porscha is obviously town so I guess this is a good "sheep". Highlights include
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:13 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 6:19 pm
I think one of the best supporting reasons why not to kill Rondo there as mafia was because he was literally hammered a vote on town a day early.
This is even if lucy is wolf
I think that's a good point. But maybe wolves wanted his strong presence gone? He was kind of the backbone to the threadstate lol. I dont recall off the top of my head if pyxxy was in his list of people to vote off to win (I think rondo said pyxxy's eod 1 was clearing? I dont know how tho), but sean was in that list. (And before sean says "YoU wErE iN tHe LiSt ToO", I know)
lack of TMI
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 3:35 am
PLEASE OPEN THE SPOILER TO SEE MY COMMENTS ABOUT EVERY POST FROM PYXXY IN THIS LIST
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:43 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:06 pm
I think pyxxy has been pretty towny these last couple of posts
okay bet
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:57 pm
for anyone analyzing this Rondo screenshot in the future, yes the counts are wrong, what I believe has happened is that lucy had just switched from Neon to me, given this post
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:58 pm
joined in on the fun
>objective statement only
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:52 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:59 pm
Damn I trust players on the Bereft wagon more than pyxxy
Wilgy when you said this, do you happen to remember who you saw on the pyxxy wagon? There were either 2 or 3 people besides yourself depending on when you refreshed the page.
>useless question that appears to be useful that has no opinions. Talking to talk. Passing the ball while touching the ball the least
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:48 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Sun Mar 05, 2023 7:58 pm
joined in on the fun
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:05 pm
why'd you kill bereft WHEN I SAID HE WAS TOWN AND I VOTED TO PROTECT HIM
hey @lucy, if you were voting to save Bereft, why did you switch off Neon onto me in the last few minutes?
>"hey contested person, why did you >gotcha question?<"
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:22 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:20 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:18 pm
wilgy y u h8 me
I could never hate you Pyxxy. You are very fun to play with.
However I do think you are wolfing this game.
good sir I haven't randed scum yet on this site and I don't plan to start now
>Tonally wolf in tandem with pyxxy's other content
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:20 pm
@DrWilgy if I flip town, do you plan to go after Neon D3? Do you think one of the top D1 wagons must be scum?
>"hey guy who thinks I'm wolf, do you plan on going on vacation soon? Do you think Italy sounds like fun?" Might as well have been said. No opinions. Attempting to sound inquisitive and solving by using objective information again
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:19 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:17 pm
Further he says the thread is boring and dips rather than actually trying to go into the mesh of it. I don't see how that's town sided.
this I do agree with, unfortunately that was after where I quoted from, seanzie still not showing town to me
>not showing town
>>aka kinda wolfy, in poe
>>>backhanded way of saying it when that was the point where sean looked the towniest, imo
>>>>I'd call it an awkward hedge on a partner in hindsight
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:14 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:11 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:08 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 12:46 pm
Define sleepwalk, because I'm seeing Lucy holding contention at 3 with only 1 ahead of Syn with scattered votes that have been voiced as real by the others? This doesn't feel like a sleepwalk at all and there continues to be tension on how we solve the Lucy/Syn bobobingus.
TRs
Falcon
Cape
Rondo
Porscha
Light town to null is:
Tutuu
Neon
Can see wolbes hiding in
Sheep
Pyxxy
Syn or Lucy but never both
I also don't see Neon/Lucy being a thing. I at least believe the behavior between the two early d1 was not w/w.
I don't think Tutuu/Syn could be a thing as if it was a thing I don't think Tutuu would be as pro Lucy.
I don't think Seanzie/Syn could be a thing as I don't think you'd be so pro Lucy.
Neon/Pyxxy aren't a thing per the votes d1.
Sheep/Neon Lucy/Neon are also not a things per the votes d1.
If it's Neon, Sheep and Lucy are both town which would add alot of W equity to Syn.
If it's Lucy, Syn and Rondo are both town which would add alot of W equity to Tutuu/You/Sheep
If it's Pyxxy, Neon is town which further adds alot of W equity to Lucy/Sheep/You
Where am I wrong in drawing these lines?
So you're woofin', right?
Provide a chain of thoughts based upon the associative thoughts
"So you're woofin', right?"
Alright Seanzie. You could at least try to interface with my thoughts here.
Wilgy, this feels like a very odd response from you. You know how Seanzie works. You know he just replies like this sometimes.
You seeming to be exasperated by this feels off.
>this was always a disgusting post cuz Sean's behavior always pisses off anyone he mindlessly tunnels. Especially town. "You know this person does this annoying thing! How could the annoying thing be annoying you??? Sounds kinda wolfy" LMAO OOKKURR actually so fucking funny
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:13 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:15 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:10 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:08 pm
very reasonable
If its so reasonable why did you shit the bed yesterday going full ATE when I tried to push you over and resolve? More wolf evidence that Lucy is all over the place trying to justify herself
[VOTE:
Rondo] aubergine
you feel like this rondo might be powerwolfing rondo? (sorry for back to back just posting all the quotes I picked)
>lol not even gonna grace this one with a response it just looks awful in hindsight. It's a loaded question with no opinion from pyxxy
pyxxy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:12 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:31 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm
Seanzie needs a second assessment as the wagon being on Bereft instead of Lucy I think was mostly their doing.
Yeah I wasn't sure about Seanzie on the wagon, and ofc pyxxy voted that wagon too but that was also a LATE vote
I think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.
thoughts on Wilgy's movement if you hold this world view?
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:31 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:09 pm
Seanzie needs a second assessment as the wagon being on Bereft instead of Lucy I think was mostly their doing.
Yeah I wasn't sure about Seanzie on the wagon, and ofc pyxxy voted that wagon too but that was also a LATE vote
I think Pyxxy is probably clear from EoD wagonomics. The Pyxxy flash wagon was likely a save attempt to move away from Neon.
I'm talking about my exchange here with Wilgy, where he doesn't bring up that Neon was also tied until I bring it up.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:30 pm
pyxxy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:17 pm
It was effectively panic.
I still think you were a fine yeet option, but LPP being on that wagon along with Rondo and Cape being on Bereft made me swap last second.
Was Neon also having 4 votes a part of your panic calculations?
Si. Neon wouldn't have been a good yeet yesterday. There's still time yet for them to town spew.
Okay you are correct which at least makes me feel better about not going there. hopefully not a temporary sensation.
>Fights to ensure capes acknowledgement of Sean and pyxxy going onto bereft gets looked away from and let it rest on "whew yeah maybe neon is wolfing" which kinda just tmi'd wilgy town with the flips we have
Town (i know slightly scuffed and rushed).
pyxxy - Was looking at GOC day 1, I thought pyxxy's day 1 was a lot stronger there then it was here.
2560 I think has reasonable solving on Syn/Seanzie. I could see the logic. I think I would probably think the evidence there is stronger then pyxxy is giving off here tbh.
pyxxy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:36 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:17 am
In terms of Sheep, I always feel like they are a very straightforward read
when they are towny, they are town
when they are wolfy they are wolf
Sheep has given me town vibes all the way this game and it is of my opinion that they are really not that hard of a read once you know them
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/36135
Here im bad at explaining things. I feel like w!sheep here has relied on easy talking pieces and actually wasn't all that towny this game. Also they are harder to read the process of here then this game lol
skimmed sheep's iso and your iso from that game
It seems like sheep had to step up way out of their scum comfort zone in that game because of a newbie teammate outing on D1? Did I skim that correctly?
If so, does that change how you view sheep in this game at all?
I just compared the middle/end of that game to this game, even with the "stepping out of their scum comfort zone" in mind. They do have some odd jumps in logic like they have here, I still don't see too much the similarities beyond that, I still think Sheep was harder to read that game compared to here. So the answer is no. You have experience with scum sheep you would like to share?
Some of pyxxy is concerning to me, I didn't find thier long post particularly towny besides the work some of that took i guess. Tinfoil: they made this comment in part 1 of their long post, it goes as follows
So really just tutuu and Cape. I haven't really fleshed out this though, but if I had to suspect 1 of them, it would be Cape. I'll elaborate on this later.
This seems to be said with an already established mindset in mind when this isn't even in the middle of the post, it's one of the first points pyxxy makes. So in other words
1. they are establishing they are looking through a confbiased lens.
2. could point to there being an agenda.
Had some insight into the lucy thing
Because my read on lucy feels very WIFOM.
D1 scum lucy would have been some version of caught for the wrong reasons, which I could imagine being a factor in her decision to AtE as a defense. lucy has kept up the massive posting numbers and continues to lead the thread by a wide margin. I trust Neon to find town lucy amidst the AtE, but then Neon seems to stuck in the exact same mental spot as me:
I somewhat find the note on Neon to be a bit scummy. but eh okay.
I suppose the post has a decent amount of insight of where they were at.
I liked the note on lucy's
2212
Neon _does_ make no sense as the maf kill. Flips a D1 wagon that people didn't clear or town core D2. Does scum lucy just hand town this information after town managed to fucking _hammer_ Wilgy? I say no. The tinfoil stops here for me on lucy. Galaxy brain logic is never real. Town core lucy and if she's scum, well played. Or not. Idk. Town lucy.
I don't really get townpings from the rest of the post and the conclusions that are drawn from catching up, which feel relatively safe to me.
I don't like
2414 too much as this is right before their large post where they just say the same thing about Seanzie, that they need to revisit Seanzie.
There are points where it's like... maybe this is town? I kinda
scumlean them though
Jaiden Underwood - Not sure what to think. I don't remember if I played with scum!Jaiden or town!Jaiden, I believe I thought they were town but thats where my memory fades on them. Not sure what to think of their turn around on me because I don't know how I posted towny content there lol.
lucy - lucy has been kinda fine today, dipped out of WIM city as soon as Rondo died. Obvious mafia
townlean
Seanzie - Feels like they are in their own world. Possible they could be scummy just based on them just casually moving on after DrWigly died. I think I could potentially see it despite liking some of their posts on glancing at them, not so much going any deeper really. Like the post about not wanting to move vote despite thinking tutuu and i think it was syn that was mediocre. something like that im running out of time.
scumlean
Syn - Im'a be frank, idk if i like their turn around on me just like that so idk i guess im fine with seeing this die. THOUGH, I sort of townread their posts moreso then other lurky lurkers?? Not like they are lurking at this point but it does at least today feel like they are weighing options i guess.
Null foir now as i rush this out
falcon45ca - Is really wolfy and I don't get why there is pushback against this slot. Only thing I can see is falcon turning around on their SR of me day 1. Otherwise, they seem a bit impossible for me to read as anything but a person who dont be doing stuff
scum
)
RondoDimBuckle - town
