The Syndicate

I think not flipping you now is game-losing for town because I'm a villager and I'm always going to go for you tomorrow if you don't flip today, unless we hit a mafia that's not you, and I highly doubt Neon is mafia. Porscha could be a hit, but you stopped pushing there. Basically you're either mafi...

Also I thought you said I (or anyone for the matter) could be a Ruri teammate? So not sure where your thought process in the "if Neon is town" is coming

'If I am wrong on Neon' I think really means that it has to be Ruri + a misclear that has been placed. If I miscleared a slot, I think it's most likely between Falc/Porscha leaning on Porscha. Porscha was hedgey as all hell towards Jack and I don't have anything that inherently clears them. Creatur...

I don't know if it's a playstyle difference. Or maybe I'm more towny than I think I seem, because ironically I've been suspicious of Lily and Schia both townreading too when I pushed them and they were both villagers. But part of it is the gamestate.

I mean I think it would be completely reasonable to suspect me from the perspective of v!you. Like, I've also been a loud wrong voice, yes. And I'm a villager, so to me, how does this game make sense if we're both villagers? Part of the reason why I'm suspicious of you is some of your suspects seem ...

Wilgy/Ruri unlikely paired. annoyingly I can't completely outrule Porscha/Ruri opening Ruri's ISO isn't much of anything but she feels generally fine to me, and makes less sense in a gamestate leading to a lot of MLs than Wilgy/Porscha do, who have steered. i'm not voting outside of Wilgy/Porscha an...

my POE is probably like Wilgy/Porscha/Ruri. coming into today Ruri's name would've been yours but I think today and yesterday I've townread you a lot. i'm still struggling with your role not really fitting in with the setup but, at the point where i'm letting it go. plus i think the wolf team has to...

Voting Neon is also ignoring the whole Anne wagon, which I refuse to believe came about purely.

I think Porscha was a big factor in it, but Wilgy/Porcha/NANOOK always has 1-2.

Anne was mostly treated as town and would be a valuable ML for mafia as I'm sure they debated night killing her.

@DrWilgy Re: Neon is there anyway you can do me a favor and check my ISO because I had a ton of interactions with them and I struggle to see their reaction to my push coming from a wolf. It really seemed like they believed their self. Also try coming up with a solve with a POE of Ruri/Falcon/Porsch...

Oh mother clucker. I lost like half my ISO review that took place during the earlier thread by multi tabbing. The ISO went from TRing Neon to observing some early potential Sabi/Neon links that I don't think teammate of both Sabi/Neon makes. Again, I find it super odd that the OMGUS pushed you back...

I got much more heated than I wish I did against Neon. It wasn't a great night. But... that would be a pretty insane team by any standards

Ruri and Porscha would be the 2 people with no clearing spew but eh?

Creature I thought commented Empowerer wouldn't make sense unless it was to empower doc

NANOOK and Jack just felt like 2 people like... reacting? Like Jack's reaction feels like a reaction to new information idk it just didn't read as paired there

DrWilgy Re: Neon is there anyway you can do me a favor and check my ISO because I had a ton of interactions with them and I struggle to see their reaction to my push coming from a wolf. It really seemed like they believed their self. Also try coming up with a solve with a POE of Ruri/Falcon/Porscha...

Meh if anything that interaction reminds me NANOOK is town.

Falcons seemed decent today though.

why dont we all flash wagon pyxxy then hy do you insist on acting scummy? First you spend tons of posts pushing Ruri, then drop it completely. Then you're pushing Schia. Now you're pushing me. Note, I'm saying pushing. Not investigating, not really creating a case against because your only effort w...

Why did you switch your read on Porscha?

I'm just exhausted of thinking of scenarios. Every time I do I've reached the wrong conclusion. The Schia flip hit me really really hard. I made a whole chart in my notebook and thought I was doing dissociations properly. But I already talked today about why I think you/Porscha is viable. If that's ...

How does empower work? I thought it made an action take precedence?

Wilgy I don't know. I'm honestly just tired of the game. I don't want to be here and all of my attempts to figure things out on My own have been wrong. I don't really know what to do here. I may just pull a creature and not vote at all. But I don't feel like I can try to communicate with you without...

oh Pyxxy was also vying for Porsha but that's just 1 strike against Porscha, Wilgy it's been like everyone now

My point being, I've also been reading Wilgy as super towny this game based on his posting, but this issue has become something beyond my read. I don't doubt that your read has high accuracy, but we are dealing with a gamestate where multiple strange kills have been made when someone like me (or eve...

I've defended Wilgy for 2 days and watched the people who want Wilgy dead slowly die. At this point I'm not even following my own instinct it's like he's red checked.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:18 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:17 pm I mean if you're calling Wilgy/Falcon unpaired though I agree?
Well, that, but im actually just calling them both town lol

If I were forced to kill one I'd kill falcon, track be dammed

If you and Wilgy are both town I will do the gross thing Mac said he'd do.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:17 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:16 pm Wilgy was calling Lucy town like hard town since early though so he wouldn't be able to vote there
Then presumably he would've been on Jack since a vote for creature is tantamount to being willing to sacrifice jack

The creature wagon was the wagon mafia was trying to push over so no.

I mean if you're calling Wilgy/Falcon unpaired though I agree?

Wilgy was calling Lucy town like hard town since early though so he wouldn't be able to vote there

anne [6]: Creature, pyxxy, Porscha, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, DrWilgy, Seanzie
NANOOK [4]: obscurity, Ruri, anne, falcon45ca
DrWilgy [2]: Neon, Schiavetto

anne [6]: Creature, pyxxy, Porscha, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, DrWilgy, Seanzie Porscha do you think this wagon is pure? Because you seem reluctant to push either Wilgy or NANOOK, idk. If you're a villager there is 0% chance Wilgy/NANOOK doesn't have at least one (I would bet high stakes on this any...

like my point of view is, I've tried twice to hit wolves on my own with lily and schia. i was wrong both times. when i take things into my own hands, like defending jack (and now, likely, wilgy), i've been nothing but a hinderance to the town. when i was questioning, days ago, why i hadn't been nigh...

if Wilgy flips town i'll probably just listen to his legacy.. all the dead people wanted Wilgy so I have no other legacy to follow there. but i don't think he'll flip town at this point..

NANOOK I get what you're thinking, you have a read and it's right despite all the dead thinking otherwise but I've thought this for 2 days now and at this point mafia are making their kill selections for a reason. I do not see a plausible world where Wilgy is town and mafia is somehow keeping the p...

Oh I guess Pyxxy could've also been killed because of the track which may be a slight pro point for NANOOK town too

Also I really do just think it's Wilgy/Porscha. Their reactions kind of solidified that although I haven't looked more closely and I've been wrong a lot this game but for once this read is taking into account the dead.

NANOOK I get what you're thinking, you have a read and it's right despite all the dead thinking otherwise but I've thought this for 2 days now and at this point mafia are making their kill selections for a reason. I do not see a plausible world where Wilgy is town and mafia is somehow keeping the pe...

Neons never been here for EOD I don't think so I just assumed time zone. Even when Neon herself was getting wagoned at fluctuating points she wasn't here

But Wilgy is literally pushing to kill Neon here. He ain't killing someone he's trying to push on and who he ended on last EOD Well, the D6 poll shows he did EOD on Neon...thoughts? Yeah that's what I'm saying. Like it wouldn't make sense for w!Wilgy to kill Neon when he was set up to start pushing...

But Wilgy is literally pushing to kill Neon here. He ain't killing someone he's trying to push on and who he ended on last EOD

Well their wagon died but it was large at certain points, tapered about. I think it got to 4 or 5 at one point yesterday

I think Pyxxy made more sense as a kill than Neon in a Wilgy wolf world because Pyxxy was never getting voted and Pyxxy was against Wilgy without being loud enough to be damning.

Good enough I had to speak up against it.

Yes we've established that I'm alive because I've been a loud voice defending mafia. Basically the 5th wolf. That's why I'm literally carrying out the strongest part of the will of all the recent dead people. Neon being mafia makes no sense here. Neon was Mac's strongest townread and no one dead wa...

But I mean sure we can kill me then we'll have 6 towns in the graveyard who want Wilgy dead If I were to die at this moment my legacy would be Wilgy/Porscha with a small side of scrutinize NANOOK for weird claim and everyone else is fine. Falcon seems super town today. I would never touch Ruri eithe...

Which you ignore.

I've defended Wilgy more than I ever defended Jack and that's why Wilgy is just outed.

Yes we've established that I'm alive because I've been a loud voice defending mafia. Basically the 5th wolf. That's why I'm literally carrying out the strongest part of the will of all the recent dead people. Neon being mafia makes no sense here. Neon was Mac's strongest townread and no one dead wan...

(Those are the 5 people, all recent deaths, who wanted Wilgy dead)

Sure but I'm town. Plus they didn't just have Wilgy POE. They wanted his neck. Anne and Pyxxy had me town. Schia had me town. Seanzie had me tinfoil territory but town. Lucy had me POE but wanted to kill Wilgy first. Nice of you to soft defend him though, it is doing nothing but confirm my suspicion...

Living this long also sucks I did not know the games lasted this long or i wouldn't have played but that's not anyone else's fault.

I think you're outed and you can imagine I've replied to everything you say with "idontbelieveyou.gif". You left me alive thinking I'd keep defending you but I'm not a fool and I'm not letting another villager die for my own idioticy. Make the wagons between me and you if you want, I liter...

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