The Syndicate

nice clutch town! wow neon you did amazing!

Sorry for the tunnel Porscha

Points For Falcon Mafia: -Bad voting record -Shielded hard by 2 mafia seeming to scumsided, Wilgy's flip on him potentially tactical -Weird that he thought there was a mafia in Neon/Wilgy but voted Porscha.. without really explaining why -Anne thought Wilgy/Falcon before she died, seemed like the o...

i'd say i'd lean 70/30 on porscha over falcon. but i won't pretend that there aren't some decent points against falcon rounded up, so hopefully you guys are right if he does flip

it's sort of a weird scenario, but i just think the game as a whole makes more sense with a team of wilgy/porscha than wilgy/falcon because the MLs felt more intentionally steered by porscha in places, and i really did see how she was navigating things away from wilgy falcon's voting record isn't gr...

hm okay idk how to feel about Porscha's stuff on Falcon. I'm leaning towards it being.. not super convincing. some points are okay, but then she is sort of throwing quotes out there but in a lot of the quotes being like "idk, is it REALLY paired though?" - like some of it feels like work t...

I've been busy pray but I'll make sure to be on before day end to read Porscha's stuff and make a final decision

@falcon45ca can you answer the question I asked Porscha and Wilgy: what are you most proud of about your play this game and what is your biggest regret?

The idea of posting a scum game you didn't do that well and claiming you're polarized from it seems like a good scum tactic

But I moreso just want to read for a Vibe

I was going to do stuff tonight (assessment of Porscha vs. Falcon) but my buddy brought his French bulldog puppy over and we've been distracted watching it play with my cat

well that's a much townier answer than wilgy's was yesterday

i wish i had a better idea of your wolf range.

i have to finish up some stuff for work, guess i'll think on things later

finished Wilgy ISO basically, Wilgy is soft pushing Falcon all game then, does an ISO of falcon after Jack dies, switches, says Falcon looks spewed town, rides on this - also says porscha and anne look bad from jack spew this is probably not a great look for Falcon, because a "powerwolfy"...

jack/wilgy definitely didn't distance much We should also look at how Wilgy & Jack interacted with their other teammates i mean there's only Sabi which is low on content/already analyzed I just did a quick search, and it looked to me that Sabi never mentioned Wilgy or Jack, not even once. Their...

hmmmmm

the Porscha/Wilgy thing looks a bit less theatery in retrospect and more like Wilgy trying to pocket porscha IDK

finished Wilgy ISO basically, Wilgy is soft pushing Falcon all game then, does an ISO of falcon after Jack dies, switches, says Falcon looks spewed town, rides on this - also says porscha and anne look bad from jack spew this is probably not a great look for Falcon, because a "powerwolfy" ...

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:23 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:05 pm jack/wilgy definitely didn't distance much
We should also look at how Wilgy & Jack interacted with their other teammates

i mean there's only Sabi which is low on content/already analyzed

there's like, quite a few times wilgy votes someone else and mentions falc is also acceptable

so Wilgy is pushing Falcon quite a bit at one point early. need to figure out if the shift was tactical.. quite possible since i believe it happened after jack died, and mafia wouldn't want to be down to one

I'm reading Wilgy's ISO. the early stuff looks better for Porscha than for Falcon, but this shit is long

jack/wilgy definitely didn't distance much

Porcha can you talk to me for a second, where am I going wrong in my confbias on you/Wilgy? You never answered me on what really like changed in your read on Wilgy after you started pushing? Like I'm still stuck on my idea that you saw Lucy die and thought you could push Wilgy then backed off. Also ...

Porscha can you link some past scum and town games

You might have already but I don't remember

Falcon was also a wagon that never took off all game despite multiple attempts mm

i'll have to reread your interactions. i don't want this to be something where we flip you and you are actually town and i feel bad for not doing due diligence today/looking at that. on the surface level i just keep thinking of pyxxy's line about you "scared of flipping Wilgy" and how list...

Wilgy At this point I'm just listening to dead people, I've listened to myself enough and it's just been wrong Will look into where Pyxxy was looking but don't myself changing this vote I think a Porscha wagon coming out of nowhere is poor play today. Yeet within me or Neon today. Also there's a vi...

I guess my biggest concern on Falcon is it has felt like the whole mafia team has protected him. Was this necessary for v!Falcon? NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME if you can I'd recommend reading the start of yesterday with some of the Wilgy/Porscha/Falcon stuff. I was trying to quote stuff but it stopped ...

Anyways gamestate sort of points away from bussing, obviously its possible yesterday but, yeah, im inclined to just solve falcon, if he's town then find the busser, but I don't really want to start from the assumption of a wilgy bus yesterday when we know at least 3 members of the team were activel...

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:00 pm
obscurity wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:59 pm That D4 actually a point in Falcon's favor to me because does the whole mafia team just pile on Creature? Like it seemed like Jack was trying to convince Falcon there
I mean wilgy and jack were willing to vote together

Was falcon around for eod?

I think so yeah

Jesus this game start was September 29th. It's literally been over 3 weeks. My last game that wasn't mafiascum length days (these same lengths) was less than 2 weeks and I end gamed. That setup I was a vigilante though. I feel like this game could use kill power. I ended up abandoning mafiascum beca...

That D4 actually a point in Falcon's favor to me because does the whole mafia team just pile on Creature? Like it seemed like Jack was trying to convince Falcon there

I guess I am pretty torn between you and Falcon. I'll list my points on both and ISO again later. Ideally I just want this game to end today due to irl stuff

When I'm gone just flip Porscha I think. like there is no way we are w/w when wilgy was hard trying to get me flipped over him yesterday to me it felt like he wasn't really trying to get you flipped until i sort of forced him into it.. i mean every time he pushed on you he ended up backing off i ma...

i'm still attached to my Porscha/Wilgy solve like i don't read Porscha's post and think she's wolfy but it just like clicked for me hard yesterday with the way they were interacting with each other and it just made sense. i'm evaluating the odds of Porscha leaving me alive there, but keeping Ruri a...

When I'm gone just flip Porscha I think. like there is no way we are w/w when wilgy was hard trying to get me flipped over him yesterday to me it felt like he wasn't really trying to get you flipped until i sort of forced him into it.. i mean every time he pushed on you he ended up backing off i ma...

i'm still attached to my Porscha/Wilgy solve like i don't read Porscha's post and think she's wolfy but it just like clicked for me hard yesterday with the way they were interacting with each other and it just made sense. i'm evaluating the odds of Porscha leaving me alive there, but keeping Ruri al...

I think Neon/NANOOK are town and Creature clear

My POE is probably Porscha/Falcon? I think Anne made a point that Jack shielded Falcon when he may not have necessarily needed to if Falcon was a villager. Plus I think the OP confirms the last mafia is 100% vanilla so the track may not matter as much

I guess I'm waiting to hear what Porscha says. I felt really solid about my Wilgy/Porscha solve yesterday but it's like we're trapped in a room for 48 hours with the same insane peeps so if she's actually town maybe she can convince me in that time

Wilgs did really well. You can't imagine my relief last night my mom literally had to ask me if I was okay irl I couldn't stop smiling just happy I put my ego aside.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME can you claim your exact role? You claimed 3 night actions but shouldn't a joat claim be every night? I just want this established since it should check out but seemed a bit weird with the setup

Voting Porscha

Lucy* died

Alright gl all

I believe I can only post once more. I intent to stick with my vote for many reasons but have no qualms with flipping Porscha either. Appreciate the work you're doing regardless, Wilgy. I think the biggest thing that would confuse me if you're town is why Wilgy died with a 0/3. Like that's partially...

anyway i read through your Porscha post and i feel like your stuff against Porscha is a lot more substantial than what you had on Ruri, so you should be voting there.

i'm find with Wilgy/Porscha wagons

i think i only have like 2 more posts but idk if that's being counted now

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:04 pm Like, just yeet me for my jack interactions, then yeet Porscha and the game should be as good as solved after that though.

ok but why do i now feel like wilgy is making this comment while laughing to himself in maf chat with porschaj lkdsjfdlksajf

I've considered some weird combinations (namely something really weird like Ruri/Falcon), but I feel like Porscha/Wilgy team fits the night kills the best.. also Falcon + Ruri both have some mech in their favor (Ruri in addition to the doctor stuff, the no action voyeur from NANOOK, Falcon the no tr...

Conversation From the Maf Chat Probably™: Wilgy: let's kill lucy Porscha: okay but that will make you look really bad so i'll have to bus you Wilgy: alright nw ill push back great theater *day turns, Porscha tries pushing then gives up, realizes Wilgy is salvageable*: yasssssss king, now gonna save...

I just feel like pushing Ruri is ignoring the entire Anne wagon and a lot of wolf interference in this game. Like if I could chalk off all of the misyeets to town being dumb, then sure. But I can't. IMO the Cape + Anne MLs did not need to happen without wolf interference. And Lilypetal did have Jack...

Porscha feels super wolfy today and Wilgy is ignoring it and pushing Ruri

And Oscar is probably once again confbiasing himself into something dumb but ugh.

that doesn't really answer my question though, i'm more asking you what was going on internally for you to basically go from "wilgy outed" to NVM also had to start wondering if wilgy was legitimately framed b/c I thought about it some more and wondered if wilgy was partnered with jack if h...

feel weird about Wilgy not showing up yet.. i guess i should ISO him. Good morning my friend. I'd have thought by now that my busy/"I have time to burst" play style would've been realized by now just based on when I normally make it to the thread but alas. While I haven't read everything ...

Lucy why did you say 1 between me and wilgy Do you mean difference check or like general poe poe also I'll do more in the thread later and iron out some reads before day ends, my main issue here is that anne is alive tbh Interesting And that's a good concern to have :ponder: >talks about 1 between ...

The way I see it, the Anne ML was a very crucial ML for the mafia team. It both did not need to happen and shouldn't have happened. And I was dumb to ignore that yesterday/not consider if when I wanted Schia. Neon was no part in that ML. NANOOK I can at least explain it to self-pres. Anne was very f...

Voting Neon is also ignoring the whole Anne wagon, which I refuse to believe came about purely. I think Porscha was a big factor in it, but Wilgy/Porcha/NANOOK always has 1-2. Anne was mostly treated as town and would be a valuable ML for mafia as I'm sure they debated night killing her. I really t...

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