The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:47 pm Spiritual vote on Manny

hey if you vote me ill be able to make a joke that i thougth of an hour ago in roughly 18-19 hours assuming votecount doesnt change.
:hmmyes:

Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:45 pm Manny, to be perfecty blunt with you I think we both know that me pocketing you is NAI because

A) I would want to do it as both alignments

B) You've never wolfread me in any game we've played together.

So I don't know why this line of logic has been said so many times.

We've played 2 or 3 games together, so not the biggest sample size.
Realistically my POV is more of a "chelsea is not treating me like id expect from w!chelsea" which is fairly easily reduced to "not pocketting me" even though it has more NUANCE than that.
But only reason i've repeated it as much times as i have its because i've been asked to do so, its not a particularly strong read.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:43 pm Whether you are joking about me having a skill issue or not isn't the point, it's the intent behind the joke I am searching for an answer to. I know you aren't serious. But wolves make jokes too Manny, and sometimes when something is a joke it is more wolfy than when it is not one.

Do you think me joking about u having a skill issue at that time is wolf!indicative?.

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:43 pm I dont know if Chels knows im an omgusser or not.

which is to say "no clue if its an attempt at pocketting me" but its not what i would've pictured as a pocket attempt from her.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:40 pm Secondly @Manny does this qualify as pocketing?

I dont know if Chels knows im an omgusser or not.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:39 pm Okay given the present company was Scotty/Manny/Lanmisa who I was alluding to as being wolfy, why did you avoid mentioning you had a townread on Scotty and only mention the Lanmisa one. If you townread both of them and you yourself are town and towntelling and your think its funny to dunk on me for skill issue, why not include that read?

I literally included him in that same page in my list of "do not vote d1" though?
i brought lan specifically because i think im a lot more confident on him being town than i am on scotty V

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:37 pm Why would I get good vibes when nothing you are posting is reasonable from a town mindset?

You pressure vote me, which is a purposeless action. Then claim you did it because you felt pressured to act towny. Then you call Chelsea town without elaboration forcing me to inquire further for a read. Then you tell me I have a skill issue because I'm not townreading someone for something they posted I haven't seen which you'd know. Now you're telling me you're towntelling which you frankly are not.

So please explain again why I should get good vibes? Is your towntelling also from pages prior to my entry?

Why isnt it reasonable from a town mindset in terms of generating reactions from you to make a read myself?. I didnt question the lack of good vibes either i questioned you having bad vibes to which makes me say that what you are describing doesnt really make sense from a wolf mindset either lol.

I voted u cuz i wanted to come around, i replied that i did it to act townie because i think its funny to say so specially after jack called me self-conscious. You asked me for a read on chelsea i gave u one, i was lazy to give the reasoning to begin with i didnt think u'd care much about it. I actually dont know how much u've read, im not you but you taking the skill issue thing seriously is "?" considering i've told u a bazillion times it never is.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:33 pm Okay and so why would you not just say that instead of implying that I have a skill issue based on the current posting when the "evidence" of his alignment is clearly not in the realtime posting I was referring to.

Also Scotty read?

Also LanMisa was the one among you that I felt the least bad about frankly.

Because i think its funnier to poke u.

Town, SoD tone and in general decent /vibes/.

Good on u tbh, too bad u get bad vibes from me while im TOWNTELLING

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:30 pm Based on these posts I am seeing or some prior magic townposting?

Prior wall that i think is out of wolfrange for him based on my notion of his wolfgame, although i think his current realtiming is ~fine too just not as townie.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:30 pm What would "pocketing Brad" look like for mafia her?

I dunno but i havent seen nothing that makes my brain go "chels is pocketing brad".

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:28 pm Either I woke up grumpy and on the wrong side of the bed or I have started posting during wolf hours. All of you posting in real time are giving me the bad juju.

an issue in the skill department, on behalf of Lan is postting rn and they're the freest town in this thread.

my not vote d1 list is prolly looking like

lan
brad
chels
mich
mac
scotty

rn, not ordered cba, i'd prolly like to find 1 or 2 more by the time i make an actual meaningful vote.
[and yes i know im still voting mac, and no i dont wanna move the vote from there it amuses me].

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:26 pmWhich are?

me thinking she'd try pocketting me more if she was a wolf.
[this may also potentially apply to me thinking she'd pocket brad more as a wolf but i dont believe that as much as the first][and i dont believe the first that much to begin with].

[u may also take "wishful thinking" as a reason]
[or gambler's fallacy]

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:25 pm Chelsea read

Town for bad reasons.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:22 pm I'm going to vote for a wolf.

u had me in the first half.
twas fun, u wanna ask me anything before i dip for a while from thread?.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 pm That is to say you felt the pressure to do what you think a town would do, except in a not townie way?

That ... sounds like a wolf claim my guy.

and what are you gonna do about it?.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:19 pm "It is me, the town, the best use of my tool, the vote, is to pressure vote MacDougall on day 1."

I said i was feeling pressure to use it, not use it well.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:18 pmNo.

*waves fist at air menacingly*

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:17 pm Oh no, a pressure vote. That sure will force MacDougall into action. For if he does not, Manny's pressure vote may destroy me.

I was feeling inner pressure by virtue of being self-aware that i had yet to use the TOWN's TOOL that is the VOTE.

ammend the vote to
"come out and tr me alr nerd"

lmao timing

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

come out and play alr nerd

@MacDougall

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:04 pm Nor do I have to trust yout self meta you can fake at whim, isn't it?

Where did i ask you to trust my meta exactly? I said people who played with me can verify it, u have played with me as BOTH allignments do you think what i said is false or what is your point here?

LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:00 pm Only to notice that two desks and two chairs were missing, which would have ended up with two students not having a place to sit during the exam. And/or frantic re-arrangement of stuff in a hurry directly before the exam was supposed to take place.

shouldnt it take only like 5-10m to get a couple chairs/desks on said day? or am i understimating how easy it is to find new desks/chairs

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:00 pm Are you aware no one can Iso your hundreds of posts in a game to check your playstyle, or not?

u dont need to check all my iso to know wether im a reactive or proactive player though?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:56 pm I don’t think I’ve ever played with you, so it’s a bit disingenuous for me to be voting you at all here. But there’s something about your presence that feels reactive instead of proactive. If that makes sense

Im a reactive player, i only post if i have something to react to, i dont care much to lead or anything of the sort, anyone that has played with me can probably verify that.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:55 pm Sounds like an admission of guilt to me, if my logic holds

Damn, already caught and not even halfways through d1, i fell off.

Part of me wants to make the read of "Chelsea would be pocketting if they were a wolf" but that feels like a dumb read to make and is prolly just my brain trying to find a reason to throw Chelsea in my "not vote d1" list other than "i dont wanna kill chels".

LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:49 pm I mean, it's less about activity and more about... Do you remember the time as a child when Christmas drew near and you got to open presents, or the moment when you realised I had voted Boq in that turbo F3? Or when you see lots of opponent's soldiers die to your towers? I expected to see some joy and glee, which is what I am missing yet.

Like, I remember Anni and how you posted yourself to death D1 so I'd not make a volume read on you. I just didn't get the impression that you are having fun yet. And THAT is the worrying part.

On the brightside you are reading my mood correctly as in im not particularly hyped or anything for this game.
On the downside that is prolly gonna cause u to missread me but it is what it is, this game is a test run for me to see if i can take mafia not seriously and still play ocasionally.

I recall 0 posts from Seanzie, prolly skill issue on my behalf, i may or may not go back to check their existance later.
tbf i also dont recall any epi posts

Vaguely surprised u dont got a read of some kind on me scotty but if i wanted to make read out of that it'd be rand!v anyways so continue on ig.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:29 pm There is at least 1 mafia between Chelsea/Manny

I reject this on the basis that i want Chelsea to be town, hope u can understand.

LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:06 pm Manny feels less energetic than I'd thought I'd see him play in a game with several of the people he himself recruited. I do have a potential explanation on why he'd play the way he does (at least if this could be compared to MU games) but... I honestly hoped to find Manny early D1 and just chill, which is not the case.

This is a chill game for me, dont expect much energy, but i think u have the wrong meta for me when it comes to non-turbo games, historically i post a lot more as a wolf than as town lol [The two games in which i've postted the most per day were BOTH wolf games, anni with 1500 posts in 2 days and Dangan Annon with 2.4k in 4]

but on the brightside u are free town so nice.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:14 pm Do you really think a wagon purity shows the wagoned player is a wolf?

I think a pure wagon has >rand chances of hitting a wolf.
I wont vote a pure wagon if its someone i townread but i do value it a decent amount, i play by making a mental lists of people that i wont vote after that its just a matter of finding the yeet that "feels" the best between the people that arent on my list.

LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:00 pm I know that someone Lime Coke has played Turbos on MU before, is this a player I should know from MU? I assume it's not a Limestone alt though?

Brad aka ICEEEE aka LimeCoke aka rotomwash aka BlueKang aka TigerWoodsPGATour2004 or WHATEVER OTHER ALT THIS GUY HAS????

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:04 pm Do you have a Poe in mind?

Not really no, will prolly decide who to vote later on the day based on wagon purity and vibes.

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:11 am You should bother to explain your reads so we know how you reached your conclusions. Your process can be more important than the result. You saying it is consensus anyway is not helpful.

I disagree with this, people can read my allignment without me doing so, i'd probably bother trying to towntell harder and doing said things if i was in the chopping block but i dont think is useful when it comes to either my solving process or town/scumhunting shrug. Mostly because its fakeable as fuck its easy to come up with bullshit reasons for any read.

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 11:37 am It's not about me, it's about you.
I want to understand how come after enough games as either alignaments you have to sheep someone to read me

Why does it surprise u considering last time we were v/v was on the hydra game with waza and i just blindsheeped his read on u then, i have no reason to scumread u right now so there's no point in going against consensus and just sheeping and hoping its right makes solving by POE easier.

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:53 am Your posting style makes me think you are trying to get by on a vibe read this game. Your townreads feel similar to what other people at the time were saying without explaining why you think so.

Why is trying to get by on vibe reads mafia indicative?. You arent wrong on me doing that but i dont think is particularly AI.
Brad is a meta read, Scotty was a tone read, i could go look up the posts that made me have those reads but why bother when like u said its similar to the consensus?

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:20 am Why would you do such thing?

Why shouldnt i, are u not town?.

oh eod hour sucks for me, rough, maybe ill interrupt my slumber for it if day feels spicy later on

Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:39 am I do apologize you're right it would be a bit boring if you just did what I asked without a second glance. But, you're supposed to carry me why else would I join?

I can vaguely compromise on carrying each other, but i like sheeping more than i like leading

Dunnstral why do u think im mafia?.

I still only townread Brad and Scottie, this probably means im skill issueing in the formation of new reads, but it is what it is.
Maybe i should sheep the consensus and lazily call Mich town.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:21 am M-m-m-mafia

hi nerd

Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:47 am Why must you ask to be carried then ask even more questions when the option presents itself to you? If you don't want to be get up off your butt and find your own vote.

I can be carried and have curiosity they arent mutually exclusive!.
also u arent even voting her yourself, it wouldnt even be following u if i voted her now :curtain:

Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:23 am Hello Manny, you forced me to join this so wouldn't it be you who has to carry me? I'm disappointed.

I cant carry mself, let alone carry you
why u wanna vote abigail btw?

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:02 am Well I'm at work and this thread is dead and I've gleaned all I can from it and reading is helpful but I'm easily distracted so I've tried not

And failed

u could always read comics, thats what im doing, works for me :hmmyes:

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:57 am I'm so very bored

have u tried, not? id reccomend it tbh.

also mech talk is for NERDS specially sod d1.

brad can be town, so can scotty.

thats all i got ill be back later prolly, @Chelsea where u at im here just to be carried

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