The Syndicate

Yay! I'm not going to but it looks lovely

@Scotty thank you very much for the game it tasted delicious

Yeah so major thanks to my mafia team @sig and @falcon45ca for carrying while I just went in and died

Thank you to @Kate too for pushing me to death smh my head

GG

WOOOHOOOOO

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:30 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 11:17 am Wilgy could be a jester. I've been playing around with this lil idea for a while

If you believe that then you're wolf reading Lucy right?

I certainly don't think she's townsiding

But what is the correlation exactly

Wilgy could be a jester. I've been playing around with this lil idea for a while

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:40 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:30 am Oh I meant I assumed everyone's votes would. Obviously other people have to be suspected

nah I am trying to hint that when you

1. case wilgy
2. speak about people voting him as wolves not willing to end on town (you)
3. post that you haven't been reading him (implying you dgas about solving his slot)

it's hard to follow and not read you as a wolf whose only agenda rn is get through another day by getting another ML.

I haven't been reading thread. That was meant to suggest i don't know if his voters have said anything about us or if they just are ignoring this

LPP why are you voting wilgy after making this giant case against me

I changed my mind on Lucy cause I tend to have that sort of blindness where I don't see something unless it happens to me

So I didn't see it on Jack but it's clear as day here

I take this game too personally

Oh I meant I assumed everyone's votes would. Obviously other people have to be suspected

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:25 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:18 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:35 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:25 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:22 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:17 am "Each of the players in as much detail as you can"

No. But the wilgy voters are catching my eye if they don't say something about me/Kate wagons

Can you articulate this Dennis?

I'm saying that since me and Kate are the major talking point I think the wilgy wagon could just be wolves trying to hide from me/kate for whatever reason

See this is imo a wolf!you perspective (I see no reason not to end up on a flipped townie as a wolf lol. A single instance isn't AI). Also people are bounded to have several SRs at this point of the game, nah?

I am struggling to reconciliate this with your SL on Wilgy tbh.

I also haven't read if they said anything I kinda just assumed everyone would end up landing on me/kate

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:35 pmDrWilgy - Scumlean. You're like here, but not. You haven't been making posts, you haven't really been solving, you're kinda just posting. Then, when you addressed this, you didn't. You said some one liner like "No silly, I am a beacon of towniness" and then forgot about it. This doesn't do anything. I don't know what your mafia game looks like, but I know this is not your town.

(look at me using @dunya s smiley set)

I don't get it

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:39 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:17 am "Each of the players in as much detail as you can"

No. But the wilgy voters are catching my eye if they don't say something about me/Kate wagons

Thank you very helpful.

I'm asking you this to try to understand your worldview and find you as town.

I get that

And I also understand you probably feel shamed into doing this so sorry

I don't even understand worldview still it's like what. Does that mean

Kate is town
LPP is probably town
Neon is town
Wilgy is not town
Lucy is not townsiding
Sig is probably town
DoOm is bad
Hk is town
I've still got no fuckin clue on JD so poe
Falcon is probably bad

Who else is in this game, i dont remember. check that big post I made at the start of day if you want where my head was at before d3. Though ignore the lucy bit

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:36 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:10 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:36 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:36 pm Hell lucy probably predicted me because who knows. Maybe she guessed me instead of Kate and lied or whatever. But she knows I get pissed off easy and then I look like a wolf that's mad at getting caught. All lucy has done here is laugh at me, say I outed myself and push my fucking buttons until I get angry. Like christ this happens every game and I am so tired of it. The one time I actually randed mafia I didn't even get caught is the funniest part. I'm done with this game for a while bye.

This post is actually bad lol

So this does play directly, and I mean EXACTLY what I'm talking about in that post by both laughing at me and sussing me for getting angry

I'm playing mafia so is Lucy this reaction feels fake. It feels like your playing it up. It's a bad post I'm not going to pretend like it's not.

It feels like you're cornered and you don't know how to respond to the pressure so you AtE play up how angry it is to talk to lucy which gives you an excuse to bolt from the pressure and you dip out.

God I hope I'm not playing it up I feel like I've just made everyone scared to say anything cause I got upset over one too many "lmao" or "lol"s

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:35 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:25 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:22 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:17 am "Each of the players in as much detail as you can"

No. But the wilgy voters are catching my eye if they don't say something about me/Kate wagons

Can you articulate this Dennis?

I'm saying that since me and Kate are the major talking point I think the wilgy wagon could just be wolves trying to hide from me/kate for whatever reason

See this is imo a wolf!you perspective (I see no reason not to end up on a flipped townie as a wolf lol. A single instance isn't AI). Also people are bounded to have several SRs at this point of the game, nah?

I am struggling to reconciliate this with your SL on Wilgy tbh.

I also haven't read if they said anything I kinda just assumed everyone would end up landing on me/kate

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:22 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:17 am "Each of the players in as much detail as you can"

No. But the wilgy voters are catching my eye if they don't say something about me/Kate wagons

Can you articulate this Dennis?

I'm saying that since me and Kate are the major talking point I think the wilgy wagon could just be wolves trying to hide from me/kate for whatever reason

LPP is the only person who made a case on me so far and wasn't only saying "his iso is wolfy"

"Each of the players in as much detail as you can"

No. But the wilgy voters are catching my eye if they don't say something about me/Kate wagons

Neon wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:37 am Alright fuck it

@Kate I know who you targeted N1 thanks to the mech info provided to me by Chihiro.

I don't want you to necessarily out who you targeted but can you talk to me about your thought process for why you targeted them and if it's changed your view at all.

Can you also give me a super detailed reads list?

@Dennis talk to me about the game state and each of the players in a much detail as you can.

This game is being driven by lucy and you have somehow gone from being the most anti lucy to pro lucy in about 5 posts or something. And now all I can run through my head is how you were talking about your policies before and how we've just forgotten about that

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 8:36 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:36 pm Hell lucy probably predicted me because who knows. Maybe she guessed me instead of Kate and lied or whatever. But she knows I get pissed off easy and then I look like a wolf that's mad at getting caught. All lucy has done here is laugh at me, say I outed myself and push my fucking buttons until I get angry. Like christ this happens every game and I am so tired of it. The one time I actually randed mafia I didn't even get caught is the funniest part. I'm done with this game for a while bye.

This post is actually bad lol

So this does play directly, and I mean EXACTLY what I'm talking about in that post by both laughing at me and sussing me for getting angry

Hell lucy probably predicted me because who knows. Maybe she guessed me instead of Kate and lied or whatever. But she knows I get pissed off easy and then I look like a wolf that's mad at getting caught. All lucy has done here is laugh at me, say I outed myself and push my fucking buttons until I get angry. Like christ this happens every game and I am so tired of it. The one time I actually randed mafia I didn't even get caught is the funniest part. I'm done with this game for a while bye.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:17 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:15 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:01 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:59 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:56 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:54 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:52 pm my push on kate was just to see dennis defend her and that's been cleverly displayed where dennis hard defends his TOWNLEAN not TOWNREAD LMAO

If you look at the big annoying post I made there is a difference between "town" and "townlean" and "town" means "townread"

okay but my question is why have you consistently defended kate d1/2 while she's only a townlean and you're not confident she's town + there's doubt that she's town from your point of view

Cause I am confident she's town. There's always doubt from my point of view that someone is scum and that's why I always get called hedgy (see that one post you screenshotted where I said but like 400 times in goc) because I always have doubts. The doubt is smaller than most people this game.

ty for defending yourself, now it'll be fun to case you

Yah okay I'll just sit down and die instead

I'm too invested in this game to just let you push me so aggressively and completely drive the thread into a choice between me and kate. I don't think you're townsiding anymore.

Why are you voting lucy if you want it to be a Kate vs you then

I don't??? I literally said there that I'm NOT about to just let thread get driven there.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 7:01 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:59 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:56 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:54 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:52 pm my push on kate was just to see dennis defend her and that's been cleverly displayed where dennis hard defends his TOWNLEAN not TOWNREAD LMAO

If you look at the big annoying post I made there is a difference between "town" and "townlean" and "town" means "townread"

okay but my question is why have you consistently defended kate d1/2 while she's only a townlean and you're not confident she's town + there's doubt that she's town from your point of view

Cause I am confident she's town. There's always doubt from my point of view that someone is scum and that's why I always get called hedgy (see that one post you screenshotted where I said but like 400 times in goc) because I always have doubts. The doubt is smaller than most people this game.

ty for defending yourself, now it'll be fun to case you

Yah okay I'll just sit down and die instead

I'm too invested in this game to just let you push me so aggressively and completely drive the thread into a choice between me and kate. I don't think you're townsiding anymore.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:56 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:54 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:52 pm my push on kate was just to see dennis defend her and that's been cleverly displayed where dennis hard defends his TOWNLEAN not TOWNREAD LMAO

If you look at the big annoying post I made there is a difference between "town" and "townlean" and "town" means "townread"

okay but my question is why have you consistently defended kate d1/2 while she's only a townlean and you're not confident she's town + there's doubt that she's town from your point of view

Cause I am confident she's town. There's always doubt from my point of view that someone is scum and that's why I always get called hedgy (see that one post you screenshotted where I said but like 400 times in goc) because I always have doubts. The doubt is smaller than most people this game.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:52 pm my push on kate was just to see dennis defend her and that's been cleverly displayed where dennis hard defends his TOWNLEAN not TOWNREAD LMAO

If you look at the big annoying post I made there is a difference between "town" and "townlean" and "town" means "townread"

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:50 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:17 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:12 pm @Dennis why do you townread kate?

She has just been wildly in her town meta imo. There's 2 parts that are concerning me: that she has been a bit more passive and that she hasn't found me yet. Unless she has, she has been pretty wishy washy on me. Other than that I think she's golden.

Found you??

Found me as in found me as town. I don't know what's missing but it's getting frustrating because this is the game I've tried the hardest so far to win

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:39 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:32 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:26 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:23 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:18 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:17 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:12 pm @Dennis why do you townread kate?

She has just been wildly in her town meta imo. There's 2 parts that are concerning me: that she has been a bit more passive and that she hasn't found me yet. Unless she has, she has been pretty wishy washy on me. Other than that I think she's golden.

do you think i need to die?

I think with your sudden unexplained jump on Kate, maybe. Because this made it pretty obvious you guessed Kate was going to die and you aren't going to actually work off your reads to push that. That just makes you untrustworthy. I also am 98% sure Kate has some sort of TMI against you with how she is INSISTING like she is that you must go.

why do you think its unexplained? why do you think i'm not gonna out my reads to push it?

clearly my actions worked perfectly yesterday, why do you doubt that my push on kate will fail and why do you think i'm not trustworthy?

1. It's unexplained because you haven't explained it yet

2. Go ahead, I'm waiting

3. I doubt your push on Kate will fail because yesterday, jack was the counterwagon to D1. Whereas Kate has generally been regarded as town fmpov.

4. You're not trustworthy because you're not town is the simple answer. You could switch your reads up or just straight up lie to get to your wincon and dip.

why did you describe it as unexplained, it's blatantly a fact that day just started and that it's way too early for anyone to provide reason for a push, describing it as unexplained is overly skeptic

don't you think it's towny/not scum siding that i haven't picked and pushed lhf?

you know my win con and you know that the only realistic way for me to push it forwards is to participate in who is chopped and to guide town chops into scum. anything else means i have no way of fulfilling my win con because i can't reliably pick nightkills and i wouldn't have gotten special voting powers if i wasn't supposed to participate in the chops

i lie as both alignments, i've lied plenty as town and even more as scum and both satisfy their respective win cons by play alone. it's generally suboptimal to be completely transparent in a mafia game

I never think it's too early for a reason to push except for D1. At the start of other days we have suspicions in place already.

Yeah, I guess

In this post I meant to say "I doubt you push on kate will succeed". I do understand this point but the fact you aren't saying anything about why and now you and Kate are already at each other's throats is just scaring me. I want both of you to explain yourselves tbh. I just don't understand why it's too early

Yeah, but just because it's optimal to you, as a 3p, doesn't mean it's optimal for town

Haha I got in your waaaayyyy

I wasn't in a ferris wheel last night because I couldn't stand open nights when I played with them, and this is just open nights with a fancy name, but I did some work overnight.

Lucy - 3p. My main concern is that I don't know when I can trust you. At any point you could turn around. We don't even know if your solving is genuine because you always are biased to drive towards who you predicted that night. On voting you, I have mixed feelings. If we vote you we will knowingly spend a vote on someone who is not mafia, but it also eliminates a possible threat to town for later on. I think you are genuinely trying to townside but the threats are coming from frustration that people want vote you out.

Kate - Town. You're pretty in your town meta. You have been a little wishy washy on me. I don't know if you trust me or think I'm bad because you seemed willing to vote dunya because I was there, but like 3 posts before you made sure it was clear you weren't clearing me. There seems to be something you aren't seeing in me that you would expect to see. You townread Rondo because Roxy was obvitown after getting into an argument, and yet I have to "step it up" while I've been making an attempt to solve in thread.

Neon - Town. I saw frustrated towny Neon through D2, when I compare it to holes where you were practically coasting through the game. You blew through your post cap which is a bit worrying because it just gives an easy spot to not post the rest of the day. I am also interested in this info Chihiro supposedly gave you. I don't even care if you don't want to say what the info was, I wouldn't want you to say anything if Chihiro hadn't told thread. I just want a confirmation that you do have info because it would help me resolve Chihiro.

Dennis - god I hate that kid

Chihiro - Light scumlean. The more I think about it, the more this is based off of weird feelings and not much more, and I realize "weird feelings" could just be different playstyles. You had a weird take on TMI when someone said a post at the start felt like TMI. It felt like you were trying to use CRichard's weird take on TMI to discredit a suspicion on you. Overall though, I don't think you make an info claim like you did as mafia and I'm only leaving you at scumread if Neon doesn't confirm she got your info.

Roxy/RondoDimBuckle - Town. Roxy was just obvitown Roxy from the start. There's not much to say, her massive post addressing all of her suspicions at the start I have only seen come from town Roxy. My only concern is Rondo not being active but he said he's "not feeling it" which like I get it. This slot is pretty cleared to me.

Creature - Townlean. You were town leader in D1 but then you lost motivation which I get it. Honestly I'm trusting other people here, no one has really voiced suspicion on you. The only game I really played with you we were mafia together so I don't know what your town meta is like, I would like thoughts on you from people who know you better than me.

Sig - Townlean. Get pocketed nerd. Being serious, I don't know why me townreading you is pocketing to you. I kinda wanna know what's up with that. You've generally just been a sig doing sig things. One reservation I have is that you came in strong, and are an active voice which doesn't really line up with other games you've been town. You normally feel more disconnected to me.

DrWilgy - Scumlean. You're like here, but not. You haven't been making posts, you haven't really been solving, you're kinda just posting. Then, when you addressed this, you didn't. You said some one liner like "No silly, I am a beacon of towniness" and then forgot about it. This doesn't do anything. I don't know what your mafia game looks like, but I know this is not your town.

CRichard/MacDougall - Slight townlean. CRichard and Mac have such starkly different styles of playing I am still trying to figure you out. CR blew all of his posts on arguing and had a really weird take on TMI which he tried shutting down a lot of suspicions on. I also felt like a lot of suspicions he had were OMGUS. But Mac entry, trying to solve the game and the like, coupled with me choosing to trust Lucy's CR conf bias read is giving me another perspective on you.

falcon45ca - Slight scumlean. You and Wilgy are a bit similar fmpov. You're not really present and solving. Also you have been throwing out a lot of posts and then not following up qnd I don't really know any of your reads/feels. It's like, the one suspicion I think you have is Wilgy and that's because you had a 1 on 1 with him, and then you implied it when you said "do you find wilgy towny" or something when I asked why HK chose wilgy. You feel very reserved.

JDizz10 - PoE. I genuinely couldn't remember a single one of your posts without going to you ISO. The only thing I can remember without going into your ISO is that you don't have a profile picture. 36 posts is alarming, you said you're busy with IRL and I believe it because I don't think you had any reason to freeze/ghost thread. Generally, I think you look okay, but at D3 this little content is not good enough for me to be confident in a read either way.

DaughterOfOmega - Scumlean. Overall just a lot of fluff and pointless posts. At one point you declared that you were locktown and just needed Creature to confirm it, which was weird enough, but then a few posts later you called out Lucy for saying that you weren't mafia?? And then you sussed someone for having you in their lower scum reads? It's just a bunch of contradictions and you're pretty much coasting off of Creature.

Fingersplints/Hollowkatt - Town. I only have D2 to go off of but HK has been the most obvitown to me thus far. A lot of solving, little to no fluff, I don't feel like I need to point out any points in specific. Search through their ISO and you'll find what I think is just town.

Dunya/le petit poussin - PoE. Dunya showed up once, threw a bunch of stuff out, and never came back. Something IRL must have happened. Gave me weird feelings at the start which HK affirmed but I really just want to see where LPP takes this.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:26 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:23 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:18 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:17 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:12 pm @Dennis why do you townread kate?

She has just been wildly in her town meta imo. There's 2 parts that are concerning me: that she has been a bit more passive and that she hasn't found me yet. Unless she has, she has been pretty wishy washy on me. Other than that I think she's golden.

do you think i need to die?

I think with your sudden unexplained jump on Kate, maybe. Because this made it pretty obvious you guessed Kate was going to die and you aren't going to actually work off your reads to push that. That just makes you untrustworthy. I also am 98% sure Kate has some sort of TMI against you with how she is INSISTING like she is that you must go.

why do you think its unexplained? why do you think i'm not gonna out my reads to push it?

clearly my actions worked perfectly yesterday, why do you doubt that my push on kate will fail and why do you think i'm not trustworthy?

1. It's unexplained because you haven't explained it yet

2. Go ahead, I'm waiting

3. I doubt your push on Kate will fail because yesterday, jack was the counterwagon to D1. Whereas Kate has generally been regarded as town fmpov.

4. You're not trustworthy because you're not town is the simple answer. You could switch your reads up or just straight up lie to get to your wincon and dip.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:18 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:17 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:12 pm @Dennis why do you townread kate?

She has just been wildly in her town meta imo. There's 2 parts that are concerning me: that she has been a bit more passive and that she hasn't found me yet. Unless she has, she has been pretty wishy washy on me. Other than that I think she's golden.

do you think i need to die?

I think with your sudden unexplained jump on Kate, maybe. Because this made it pretty obvious you guessed Kate was going to die and you aren't going to actually work off your reads to push that. That just makes you untrustworthy. I also am 98% sure Kate has some sort of TMI against you with how she is INSISTING like she is that you must go.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:12 pm @Dennis why do you townread kate?

She has just been wildly in her town meta imo. There's 2 parts that are concerning me: that she has been a bit more passive and that she hasn't found me yet. Unless she has, she has been pretty wishy washy on me. Other than that I think she's golden.

Kate wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:08 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:06 pm

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:03 pm @Dennis sorry to inform you but kate is scum

Oh well that sucks. Can you prove it?

No, she absolutely cannot.

Well yeah but I do think she very much just outed who she predicted for death this cycle.

Scrappy Doo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 6:03 pm @Dennis sorry to inform you but kate is scum

Oh well that sucks. Can you prove it?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:55 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:51 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:42 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:40 pm How does it make any sense to mislynch a town when we could lynch a scumleaning independent??

How is Lucy scumleaning? She's solved well and her reads align with mine more than anyone's.

Just because you agree with her reads does NOT mean they are accurate. And she will flip on the town as soon as it's in her best interest to.

Kate.

If you continue to argue with bold faced logic I'll have no choice but to vig you.

Lucy having similar perspectives to me doesn't make their reads accurate but it means they are solving earnestly.

If we have a 3p solving earnestly. Who is as accurate as Lucy alongside me. Eliminating them benefits the mafia more than the town.

Treating them as town and letting them stomp wolves also encourages the mafia to shoot them.

I have already said all this.

Kate speaking with bold faced logic, if I understand that right, is towny for her. I'm thinking of goc where she was like "guys dennis is very civ" all of D1, and then I flipped town and she was like "told ya so". I would not vig shoot kate

You entirely misread me and I completely am baffled how you wrote this post without checking.

She is arguing with MY bold faced logic.

That can be interpreted either way and I apparently don't know what bold faced logic is. I thought it would be something like saying "I'm civ." and not really giving a big explaination

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:51 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:49 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:42 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:40 pm How does it make any sense to mislynch a town when we could lynch a scumleaning independent??

How is Lucy scumleaning? She's solved well and her reads align with mine more than anyone's.

Just because you agree with her reads does NOT mean they are accurate. And she will flip on the town as soon as it's in her best interest to.

Kate.

If you continue to argue with bold faced logic I'll have no choice but to vig you.

Lucy having similar perspectives to me doesn't make their reads accurate but it means they are solving earnestly.

If we have a 3p solving earnestly. Who is as accurate as Lucy alongside me. Eliminating them benefits the mafia more than the town.

Treating them as town and letting them stomp wolves also encourages the mafia to shoot them.

I have already said all this.

Kate speaking with bold faced logic, if I understand that right, is towny for her. I'm thinking of goc where she was like "guys dennis is very civ" all of D1, and then I flipped town and she was like "told ya so". I would not vig shoot kate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:42 pm

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:40 pm How does it make any sense to mislynch a town when we could lynch a scumleaning independent??

How is Lucy scumleaning? She's solved well and her reads align with mine more than anyone's.

How does your reads aligning assure that she's townsiding, to you?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:19 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:17 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:07 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:37 pm CRichard
1
5%
Voters: DaughterOfOmega

dunya
4
18%
Voters: sig, Dennis, hollowkatt, MacDougall

Jackofhearts2005
4
18%
Voters: Scrappy Doo, lucy, Creature, RondoDimBuckle

JDizz10
1
5%
Voters: falcon45ca

lucy
4
18%
Voters: Neon, Kate, DrWilgy, JDizz10

Neon
1
5%
Voters: Chihiro

So... Let's actually try to get into this game somewhat. That would likely be fore the best.

Someone describe for me the lead arguments for Dunya and Jack please? Assuming either flips town, are these wagons pure?

I found Dunya's iso contained too much outcome versus actual engagement and solve. She arrived at a lot of conclusions that I felt were insincere and her solving process was missing.

Jack is the d1 counterwagon to a town. His d1 voters were town. His tone is very scummy.

you probs have more dunya experience than I do would she vanish like this as wolf or as town? I don't feel like the wolf team was in a bad position headed into today, they'd gotten seanzie voted off the island which isn't a super easy thing to do and don't appear to have attracted much heat in doing so unless Jack is a wolf and even then unless jack is like OMG PR (and we're all PR it's madness) why not just pile drive him into the ground, get some cred, and move on?

Her vanishing is not alignment indicative. She has a busy life and mafia doesn't take priority for her nowadays. Trying to read into her for this type of stuff is silly. Just read her posts.

This would have been useful years earlier brug

So now Dunya still looks off to me but with 1. HK getting off the wagon and 2. This knowledge makes me want to give her more time. Ugh.

I'm very sorry that I literally joined the game in the 2nd half of day 2 and only just woke up Dennis. Truly, can you ever forgive me? Please? I beg you.

Ack I didn't mean it like "you should've told me sooner" I only quoted it so I could reference it

Sorry dude

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:15 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:12 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:58 pm is it time to flash wigly?
[VOTE: drwigly] aubergine

1. Why wilgy

2. You were very very confident in Dunya before. And it's not like your vote was on some random person, she is one of the top wagons. What happened??

Do you find Wilgy towny?

Not particularly but I don't remember a single think HK has said about wilgy. Also I think there's bigger fish to fry at the moment

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:07 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:05 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 6:01 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:37 pm CRichard
1
5%
Voters: DaughterOfOmega

dunya
4
18%
Voters: sig, Dennis, hollowkatt, MacDougall

Jackofhearts2005
4
18%
Voters: Scrappy Doo, lucy, Creature, RondoDimBuckle

JDizz10
1
5%
Voters: falcon45ca

lucy
4
18%
Voters: Neon, Kate, DrWilgy, JDizz10

Neon
1
5%
Voters: Chihiro

So... Let's actually try to get into this game somewhat. That would likely be fore the best.

Someone describe for me the lead arguments for Dunya and Jack please? Assuming either flips town, are these wagons pure?

I found Dunya's iso contained too much outcome versus actual engagement and solve. She arrived at a lot of conclusions that I felt were insincere and her solving process was missing.

Jack is the d1 counterwagon to a town. His d1 voters were town. His tone is very scummy.

you probs have more dunya experience than I do would she vanish like this as wolf or as town? I don't feel like the wolf team was in a bad position headed into today, they'd gotten seanzie voted off the island which isn't a super easy thing to do and don't appear to have attracted much heat in doing so unless Jack is a wolf and even then unless jack is like OMG PR (and we're all PR it's madness) why not just pile drive him into the ground, get some cred, and move on?

Her vanishing is not alignment indicative. She has a busy life and mafia doesn't take priority for her nowadays. Trying to read into her for this type of stuff is silly. Just read her posts.

This would have been useful years earlier brug

So now Dunya still looks off to me but with 1. HK getting off the wagon and 2. This knowledge makes me want to give her more time. Ugh.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:58 pm is it time to flash wigly?
[VOTE: drwigly] aubergine

1. Why wilgy

2. You were very very confident in Dunya before. And it's not like your vote was on some random person, she is one of the top wagons. What happened??

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:45 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 5:42 pm I like Dunya and Lucy a lot

I'm sorry Jack

We have an hour and 15 and Lucy always goes instead of me.

@falcon45ca @Kate @Neon its time to vote off the CR slot.

None of these people are on CR

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:18 pm If Lucy was the person I met today, I don't want to kill them

@lucy are you on the one I talked to on MU while alting?

What does something off thread have anything to do with this game?

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:08 pm

Chihiro wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:04 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 3:13 am

Chihiro wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:53 pm @RondoDimBuckle

Give me 4 scum and why?

No, I dont know you and I dont like you try again

Hello? Wtf does knowing me have to do with my question or this game???

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

I could easily vote this slot. @jack @RondoDimBuckle @Neon @MacDougall @Dennis thoughts?

You get the thumbs up from me.

Was it this post in specific that pushed you over the edge, so to speak? Cause I think chihiro should've had some other suspicions that were greater than Rondo saying no to reads since Rondo just subbed in and all

Kate wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 2:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:50 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:14 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:34 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:32 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:23 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:13 pm

You town
Creature town
Dunya town.

Could you elaborate on dunya

I would imagine a world where lucy, dunya, and creature are all town is a world where one of them dies last night.

Which one do you think is mostly likely bad in that case?

can everyone answer this, thanks

At this point, Dunya is the most likely wolf if only because I'm very certain Creature is town and pretty damn sure HK is town.

Why are you so sure Creature is town? I'm thinking chihiro is bad. I've got to reread him. Any thoughts on him?

I've been thinking chihiro is bad too but mostly off of weird vibes from D1 + being less present today. What's your reasoning?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:57 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 1:37 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:23 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:21 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:14 pm

CRichard wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:10 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Mar 09, 2023 8:08 pm Ya know if you ISO CR and do a word search for "Jack", you'll get 20 matches...and almost none of them have anything to do at all with actually reading Jack or engaging with him

Ahem I voted Jack before EOD1 and am voting them now. That should make it pretty obvious Jack is in my PoE.

Yes, but why? Your vote for him now seems to be based off "Let's get the CW to green flip"...and I'm just wondering if there's actually something behind your SR of Jack beyond that.





I thought he was fairly towny last RD

Is that right? Are you claiming info on Jack that clears them?

And now he's fishing for roles




[VOTE: CR] aubergine

I haven’t gotten to Mac yet but CR’s opening is pretty horrendous.

Sad that wolves don’t warn their partners about me more often.

Mac has come in w/ some solve energy, which is what I'd expect from Maf Mac trying to work himself out of the POE.

This is an interesting take, can someone with more experience with maf Mac than me please weigh in

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 11:11 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Mar 10, 2023 10:49 pm @hollowkatt what makes dunya an obvious wolf to you? You've been preaching for a dunya kill for a while now.

the lack of any town posting in her ISO bar like two posts. The rest of them are very fluffy very underwhelming and my experience with dunya is that she earnestly cares about solving when she is town. I don't see anything resembling that in her posting. Combine that with basically vanishing today when today was going to be contentious given how EOD went down and I have some large concerns there.

A lot of what she did was throw questions at people and then never follow up on them and generally speaking that's the sign of a wolf that struggles to get into the game and is looking for a way to appear to be participating without having to get down and dirty with reads and making statements about the alignments of other players. There's no single smoking gun that says "dunya is a wolf" but there is a lot of circumstantial evidence that would indicate they are.

If she comes into the thread and posts well, makes some statement type posts, gives reads, and follows up on what she asked about D1 before we get into the EOD run up I'll re-evaluate.

@Jackofhearts2005 here's the Dunya case that really sold me

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 12:10 pm What's the Dunya case? Because I had her down as town. Granted, based on only a few posts but also Dunya isn't a player who falls off as a wolf specifically.

I assume Lucy is being voted cause hail mary punting.

She threw a lot of questions out, and didn't follow up. I had general weird vibes from her and she voted me for no engagement then faded out. Hollowkatt explains it in more detail and has more experience with dunya, let me grab the quote