I think it would be very hard for us to be misled into thinking that zealot in Sig/Porscha is not good info and you should reread if you didnt know this.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:22 am @staypositivefriend please persuade me that Creature is not zealot. I don't want to chop him again and it not work.
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- Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:57 am
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:04 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Wow that was really easy. I mean yeah. The team is basically within 6 people, zealot within 2.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:53 am Porscha who has fallen off a cliff
Jack
Wilgy
Tutuu
Dennis
This is my final solve.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:05 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Wait nevermind I don't get it. Where's Creature. Team is within 7, Zealot is within 2.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 7:53 am Porscha who has fallen off a cliff
Jack
Wilgy
Tutuu
Dennis
This is my final solve.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:06 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
And how exactly does Creature not do something to indicate this may be the case if we did live in that world?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:01 am My current theory is that town Creature used judgement and saved himself lol.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:07 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
You have been most of all game, yes.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:15 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Town: Bereft/Lucy/Mac/SPF/Sabi/Falcon
Zealot Pool: Porscha/Sig
Rest: Creature/Tutuu/Dennis/Wilgy/Jack
Zealot Pool: Porscha/Sig
Rest: Creature/Tutuu/Dennis/Wilgy/Jack
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:16 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
I give up at this point. No and no.tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:07 pmMy understanding was that sig/porscha is the one who played the card that stopped the chop. I could have forgotten already.Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:57 amI think it would be very hard for us to be misled into thinking that zealot in Sig/Porscha is not good info and you should reread if you didnt know this.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:22 am @staypositivefriend please persuade me that Creature is not zealot. I don't want to chop him again and it not work.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:19 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Hmm, its confirmed that the zealot is voting for tutuu right now, that's an interesting one.
I am now having second doubts about this piece of info because I now realize this information could also have been abused but I really don't want to think about this.
I am now having second doubts about this piece of info because I now realize this information could also have been abused but I really don't want to think about this.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:23 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
She didnt even say she got a red peek on Sabi wtf.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:28 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
????????
You know, if you were trying to convince me of anything, it would help if you read the thread carefully like a villager world. I only do with facts and logic sorry.
You should've just said, "I trust her". And guess what, if Lucy wants to proclaim Mac/SPF are simultaneously outed due to personal reads, I am free to claim theyre both simultaneously obvious $%#!ing town due to personal reads.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 12:31 pm
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- Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:42 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Its obviously theoretically possible that one of Mac and SPF played the judgement card that saved Creature. Its rather obvious that you picked Mac/SPF/prolly Seanzie because theyre now conftown but werent previously. The issue is that I dont care because I think Mac and SPF are town and the math on that judgement card being the only judgement card in play is horrible.lucy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:09 pm@Bereft why did you not consider this theoretically possible scenario?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 13, 2023 10:34 pm Lucy’s third target was Seanzie. Seanzie died and flipped vanilla town.
Judgement played by Seanzie/SPF/Mac. Ergo, at least one wolf in SPF/Mac.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:43 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Curious though. What player do you think is most similar to sig/porscha.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:47 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
My interpretation has been that the Judgement card can be only played once not drawn only once, whoever holds a Judgement card immediately loses their ability to use it if someone else uses it.
Hold up lemme check smth. I might be able to allude to knowing this has to be true.
Hold up lemme check smth. I might be able to allude to knowing this has to be true.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:48 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Ok lets see how to go about wording this.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:50 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Honestly this setup makes no sense and shouldve been clarified ages ago.
I will go do "insrt here blah blah blah" i cant talk
I will go do "insrt here blah blah blah" i cant talk
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:51 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Oop might be a while.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:55 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Okay the math gets better for Lucy's POV.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:59 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
You broke my trust once tbh.lucy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:52 pmwhy do you question my mech?Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 1:47 pm My interpretation has been that the Judgement card can be only played once not drawn only once, whoever holds a Judgement card immediately loses their ability to use it if someone else uses it.
Hold up lemme check smth. I might be able to allude to knowing this has to be true.
don't you understand i've gone through every step you've gone through and have came to the mechanically correct conclusion which effects my perspective of the game outing one in spf/mac minimum
do you not see the concerted effort to ignore the mech because it outs players?
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:00 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Ok so >=1 in Mac/SPF or smtg
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:07 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
To summarize.
The No Hang means someone played the Judgement card that they received the night before the hang.
The person who received the Judgement card is within Mac/SPF/ ????
And ??? Better be Seanzie or smth otherwise I will flip out.
So since a Judgement card was used, one of Mac/SPF/??? played it.
The No Hang means someone played the Judgement card that they received the night before the hang.
The person who received the Judgement card is within Mac/SPF/ ????
And ??? Better be Seanzie or smth otherwise I will flip out.
So since a Judgement card was used, one of Mac/SPF/??? played it.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 2:28 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
My new question is, explained the crap that happened yesterday from a POV where Sig/Creature town and Mac/SPF mafia.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:54 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Well yeah if you didn't get to this conclusion eventually I would've been worried.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:53 pm Okay I just read all the roles and the only world SPF is not outed is if Creature is literally Zealot and drew the Judgement card but didn't use it.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:56 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
For reference, I still understand absolutely none of this game.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:00 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
We are as town to assume thatstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:57 pmthat does not make logical senseBereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 8:54 pmWell yeah if you didn't get to this conclusion eventually I would've been worried.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:53 pm Okay I just read all the roles and the only world SPF is not outed is if Creature is literally Zealot and drew the Judgement card but didn't use it.
A. The Oracle saw that one of SPF, Macdougall, and ???, played the Judgement card, and whoever ??? is confirmed to not have played it.
B. The Oracle saw that one of Sig, Porscha, and ???, drew the Death card, and whoever ??? is confirmed to not have drawn it.
Do you agree or disagree?
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:01 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Actually first, do you even agree that the Judgement card was played?
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:07 pm
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- Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:07 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Mac's statement isnt accurate, either SPF isnt outed or Seanzie did a bad.
It only takes Creature being zealot, in order for lucy's argument to fall apart which I think is what Mac figured out kinda.
Creature doesn't even need to have drawn Judgement.
The only thing stopping Mac/SPF containing mafia is Seanzie just being wrong.
It only takes Creature being zealot, in order for lucy's argument to fall apart which I think is what Mac figured out kinda.
Creature doesn't even need to have drawn Judgement.
The only thing stopping Mac/SPF containing mafia is Seanzie just being wrong.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:19 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Ah yup which means theres 1 in SPF/Mac barring the ??? being players that we do not expect them to beCreature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:14 pmDidn't lucy say one of sig/Porscha must be the zealot?Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:13 pm Mac's statement isnt accurate, either SPF isnt outed or Seanzie did a bad.
It only takes Creature being zealot, in order for lucy's argument to fall apart which I think is what Mac figured out kinda.
Creature doesn't even need to have drawn Judgement.
The only thing stopping Mac/SPF containing mafia is Seanzie just being wrong.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:24 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
I've been trusting the mech since more or less when i did certain things which you aware of what i did all im doing is just rehashing and reviewing.lucy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:22 pmtwo thingsBereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:19 pmAh yup which means theres 1 in SPF/Mac barring the ??? being players that we do not expect them to beCreature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:14 pmDidn't lucy say one of sig/Porscha must be the zealot?Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:13 pm Mac's statement isnt accurate, either SPF isnt outed or Seanzie did a bad.
It only takes Creature being zealot, in order for lucy's argument to fall apart which I think is what Mac figured out kinda.
Creature doesn't even need to have drawn Judgement.
The only thing stopping Mac/SPF containing mafia is Seanzie just being wrong.
1) players who go over post cap do not get cards
2) can you go over post cap today
and just iso me and jack and understand we are rational actors
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:25 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
Wait whylucy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:22 pmtwo thingsBereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:19 pmAh yup which means theres 1 in SPF/Mac barring the ??? being players that we do not expect them to beCreature wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:14 pmDidn't lucy say one of sig/Porscha must be the zealot?Bereft wrote: ↑Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:13 pm Mac's statement isnt accurate, either SPF isnt outed or Seanzie did a bad.
It only takes Creature being zealot, in order for lucy's argument to fall apart which I think is what Mac figured out kinda.
Creature doesn't even need to have drawn Judgement.
The only thing stopping Mac/SPF containing mafia is Seanzie just being wrong.
1) players who go over post cap do not get cards
2) can you go over post cap today
and just iso me and jack and understand we are rational actors
I dont want to go over postcap.
I really really dont want to go over postcap
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 9:28 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
wait yeah lol
pls dont get yourself removed from the game
pls dont get yourself removed from the game
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:07 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
FTR I still would believe Mac is town over SPF just based on how they treated the mechanical info.
- Sat Jan 14, 2023 11:09 pm
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Re: Cartomancy [Day 5]
MAc told Lucy their thing was BS then went to bed and came back and was convinced otherwise, what game are you reading????