The Syndicate

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:11 pm

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:11 am Hi yay shiny new game for me to bitch about too many posts to read

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:07 pm Also [VOTE: roxy] aubergine

This is for the last game pocketing me like that so rude.

I'm not sure you would even fit in my pocket. I am positive I was not rude but full of love and happiness.

Lol

Okay lemme find someone else to vote for I guess

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:17 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:31 am What is the basis of this Kate wagon? I've seen nothing that's pinged me...am I blind?

I agree, she had only made one post and Allison seemed to think it was bad? Then people just sheeped that lead

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:44 pm I’m definitely eyeing Allison and rondo right now the most.

Mac is a hazy read he’s playing a bit weird, but not ready to commit to a read either way.

Jack, falcon, Sean, Porsche, and Lucy, are all people I’d not want to vote off today.


I think Roxy looked very good with her responses and I see where she’s coming from. However, she just tricked me last game and civ reading Kate after she just said she hard protects teammates doesn’t mean a lot. They were just mafia together though so the odds are in our favor they’re not both mafia.


I’ll add for those not familiar Roxy is old school from the TS era where you need to be alive to win games as a civ. That’ll change her approach a bit and make her do some stuff that might come across as weird.

Stay positive and tuutuu are both posting but I’ve got zero reads on them which I don’t like

sig wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:11 pm

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:53 pm i am hard vetoing alison lynch today

Lucy, assuming you’re IC it does mean your reads are genuine, but it’s usually town leading misvotes anyway so until you’ve got solid info like red checks I don’t think you should have an oversized say tbh.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:11 pm I think Alison ane Creatuee both look bad. Creature is jumping from wagon to wagon with very little actual posts to back it up. While Alison keeps coming out with really bad takes that at the very least don’t seem pro civ. The big 3 I heavily dislike is her back and forth with Roxy, trying to let Lucy decide who we’re voting, and being so pro voting off lower posters.


I also think we’re seeing some attempts to shift focus by the mafia team away from the leading wagons.

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:33 pm I also wouldn’t consider Mac a strong town voice the more I think about it. He isn’t cleared, he hasn’t led the charge of a flipped mafia member ect,

And while we know Lucy is a civ that doesn’t mean she’s right so is that a strong town voice?

sig wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:34 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:23 pm @sig
@Jackofhearts2005
@Roxy
@fingersplints
@falcon45ca

Alison flips town > who are the wolves on your wagon? Who are the town?

Alison flips wolf > who bussed? who is pure?

Well I’ll say it’s possible for us all to be civ unless mafia is also up to be voted off. However, I’d eye Falcon or Splints the most of us.

If she flips mafia then Myself and Jack are town for sure and I’d say roxy looks very good. But, given the game State I think it would depend on Indy player style whether they’d bus or even vote for a top wagon.


Realistically I’d say the players voting off major wagons should be eyed closely if Alison doesn’t flip mafia and we aren’t thinking the counter wagons are mafia either

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 5:34 pm I think there is something very important going on between Mac and SPF.

tl;dr: SPF townreads Mac starting on Page 4, never gives a reason, not a single time, and it never wavers in the least. There are many w/w interactions between them. Mac looks like Mac wants to distance, but SPF is not doing a good job of showing critical thought on Mac. There is a small chance this is SPF/Mac w/t, but I think w/w powerwolfing is more likely here.

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So SPF has given me the heebee jeebees a few times, and Mac I think is playing like scum!Mac. SPF's most recent post where SPF said I was town for my case on Mac, and Mac questioned SPF's read on Mac, and SPF just said "I townread you" got my curious. I ISO'd SPF and ctrl+f'd the word "Mac". Here are the relevant posts I found, with my interpretations:

Spoiler: show

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:14 am im not bored anymore though. i think bereft is town. i think porscha is town. i think mac is town. i think sig might be town. still figuring it out from there

This is 4 pages in, SPF townreads Mac without having mentioned them before. No reason given. Nothing particularly sus about this at this time, but we'll see.

Also kinda curious about the Bereft read. They didn't even register on my radar that early, will have to ISO their early game to see if I can actually make sense of a new player being townread that quickly.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:52 pm here's where i'm at rn. it's a bit more hedgy than i'd like but meh

if kate is mafia then alison is probably town because i dont think that the way kate reacted to alison’s push on her felt like W/W interaction. the same applies for roxy as well but i currently perceive kate as having a slightly higher chance of being mafia than roxy. as for alison herself, i dunno. i understand that some of her arguments are easy to perceive in bad faith (like the way she poked at roxy earlier in a way where it did kind of feel like she was trying to ~dunk~ on her more than anything), but i’ve also played enough with alison to know that this style of engagement isn’t alignment indicative

so in the absence of reasons to scumread alison, and because i think alison is unaligned with 2 other ppl who are kinda in my POE, i’m at the very least not willing to vote for alison today

i like that baub felt like he had kind of positioned himself to be able to push on seanzie but then ended up backing off of him anyway. i also think his push on jack has felt like it came fro ma place of conviction. i don’t know how to read baub at all but i think he’s fine s ofar

i thought the way that bereft pushed on me while revealing that he was secretly repping a townread on me while doing so was towny. i thought the way it felt like he was projecting his view of the game (ie: “i dont find the game boring but spf finds the game boring so t herefore spf be mafia) was towny too. i townlean him

i think that creature replied decently to my concerns about him, but i do still find it difficult to shake the feeling that he is being rather careless with the way he is posting reads and acting overly confident and haughty in a way that is uncharacteristic from pretty much every game ive seen for him

i think it bothers me for a few reasons:

-his focus is all off. creature has obsessed over reading mac and me correctly in every game iver played with him but here he is pushing more on the LHF and not really engaging with either of us much at all

-he just made a post that said: “This wagon is so bad we could prob nuke everyone in it” , and this is the exact type of attitude i struggle to believe that creature would have as town

honestly i m having trouble letting go of this read on creature because he keeps making posts that ping me even though i acknowledge i could be relying on meta too strongly or confirmation biasingm yself, but yeah

tbh i kind of like the fact that dennis went out of his way to limit himself for potential options to push (by saying he isnt willing to vote any of kate/neon/lucy/falcon very early into the game) but i’m kind of ambivalent about his posts beyond that

the readslist that wilgy posted on viewtopic.php?p=1002310#p1002310 didn’t really feel proportional to the solving he had done up to that point. i don’t really get anything alignment indicative out of the rest of the stuff he’s posted

i have no idea how to read falcon and im not going to pretend that i can

i think the way that fingersplints followed up my question about the alison/roxy dynamic was towny. i need to see her post more before i make up my mind on her alignment tho

i thought the way that jack dug in his heels and stubbornly continued to hard tunnel alison even after i questioned him/tried to talk him down felt like it came more from the perspective of a villager who felt convicted over their scumread and less from a wolf, since i think wolves are more likely to capitulate to pressure when they are being questioned on their reads like that, or at least say more hedgy stuff like “alison could be town but…”

tbh though i might be giving jack too much of a pass because at the end of the day i do think that his reasoning for scumread alison is kind of bad and im unconsciously operating under the assumption that he has a polarized wolfgame, which is kind of making me treat him with gids gloves. idk. i dont want this read to be as null at it is but there u go

i think that p#120 from kate was a wolfy post and came off a little bit self-conscious. i thought she responded to pressure somewhat awkwardly too. i don’t have any other thoughts

lucy is town

i think mac is probably town for reasons that ill explain if u really want me to

im mildly bothered by the way that neon has treated me in this game. she has consistently shaded me and implied that it was wolfy for me to think that the game was boring during the first few pages and has regularly downplayed townreads on me, but she has offered no commentary on my posts beyond that whatsoever and she seems barely interested in engaging with me/communicating with me at all

it reminds me of the sabi invitational game where she consistently treated me in bad faith when she was mafia and i let it slide because i thought she was tonally towny/she had conviction. she’s essentially treating me the same way here and i’ve had trouble getting past it. i don’t really care about her posts beyond that and ive barely paid attention to them

i think porsche is most likely town because i perceive her as being mildly polarized and the depth of analysis/thought that she has projected so far is proly town indicative for her, and because i think #760 in particular would be a difficult post for a wolf to write about themselves, particularly if they traditionally struggle with wolfing in general

holding off on my rondo read for reasons

i think it was mildly wolfy that roxy shifted her positioning toward kate a bit awkwardly when she was engaging with alison but i would be lying if i said if i thought that any of her posts were alignment indicative. i i get the sense that she’s the type of player that will project towniness better if she’s town if she is left alone and able to do her own thing, so im not really interested in adding to the pressure on her at the moment and i’d like to see how she plays when she isn’t being bombarded by the rest of the game

i thought it was towny that seanzie used his experience with my wolfgame as a foundation for his reado n me in this game. i’m kind of ambivalent about the rest of his posts but i proly wuldnt touch him today

sig had a towny opening but his vote on alison a little while ago was bad and felt opportunistic. i actually scumlean him now

one of my biggest concerns about tutu was actually that she was townreading me too easily and uncritically so the fact that she suddenly got super paranoid about me being mafia and revoked her townread felt towny. idk how to read he but i would also not touch her today for various reasons

Big post, read on Mac highlighted. Again, says Mac is town but does not give reasons. Why not elaborate here? It is a big enough post that I don't think SPF felt like they would be asked to elaborate.

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:08 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:50 am

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:47 am My strongest SR right now I think is Alison/Mac I just think they've been treating people poorly for bad reasons and are digging in their heels in a way that feels less like trying to solve the game and more like trying to make people look bad for things that aren't really that bad.

can you give me some examples of where you think mac specifically has done this?

That most recent post calling out half the player base for how they are playing when I think at least some of them are in their normal meta for one

SPF questions Neon about Mac, after Neon's response, SPF did not ever respond again.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:29 pm

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 7:04 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:57 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:55 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 6:50 pm ftr im insecure about my vote on jack and im not sure that im going to hold there

i just prefer him over the baud/alison wagons atm

What wagon(s) would you prefer instead?

i perceive the pool of creature/splints/falcon/sig as being likely to contain at least 2 wolves

I would guess you are probably correct.

I would say of the people casing/pushing me, Rondo is almost certainly town; Seanzie feels genuine; Falcon seems extremely sus. Bereft feels pure and his casing of Falcon was solid work.

Splints/sig/wilgy are flying utr.

Roxy seems rand to me; I think the pushback on Alison is likely at least partially wolf-driven though that doesn't mean much for Roxy's alignment imo.

Pretty tough to yeet mafia in this game state with 5 living so if you want to move to another wagon please @me, i'm out of posts. Who else do you trust?

i townread mac, lucy, bereft, tutuu, you, and sig roughly in that order. i'm not willing to vote for alison today even though i'm not sure about her alignment

i had fingersplints as a light townlean but she just hopped on alison in a way that extremely rubs me the wrong way

rest of the game feels kind of inscrutable to me rn

Another Mac townread without explanation

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:58 pm mac
lucy
tutuu
dennis
bereft
rondo
baud

my current townreads in the exact order that i townread them. i think there is one mafia maximum in this pool

im capped now so gl gl

Another Mac townread without explanation.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:30 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:26 pm i really hope that a wolf did that.

I am not sure this is a real thought.

no, it was a bad decision but i dont care to debate it

possibly w/w theatre. Where did this go?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:30 pm You guys should policy Mac if he doesn't produce pelts soon by the way since he's wrong on both fingersplints and me which is pretty out of form for him.

Shit I need to bus someone. Um, ah. Fuck um.

[VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine

slay queen

possibly w/w theatre. Weak w/w read though. Definitely w/w compatible, maybe not w/w indicative.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:36 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:34 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:31 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 10:06 pm if creature roxy sig and jack contains more than one villager then this game is probably a loss

this is nonsense

why

it's blatantly untrue that town can't win unless all 3 are mafia and there's no reason to feel that way much less say it

your perception of the gamestate is very different from mine if you think that but okay

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:51 am mine are mac, lucy, and bereft. if lucy doesn't count, then i would add tutuu.

SPF loves talking about their Mac townread. Also Bereft really fits the idea of SPF trying to hard powerwolf. As others have mentioned, Bereft clearly is not a newbie, and with almost nothing else known about them, I have a hard time thinking people are going to towncore them this hard. I need to give them a careful lookover before I really commit to this idea, so this is more spitballing than confident thought, but right now, SPF powerwolfing with Mac and Bereft is on my mind. For those who said Bereft wouldn't need to do what they've done as a wolf and could just slank since they're new, I mean... aren't they kinda doing that, just not completely and outrightly playing bad? I know the few times I've wolfed on my first time on a new sight, I've come off as a quiet but insightful townie.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 1:44 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:28 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 6:56 am cant sleep and wanted to share the stray thought that out of all the people who have pushed/shaded mac, seanzie is the towniest of them. his read on mac has a level of specificity (ie: him comparing mac to his wolfgame in GoC, him accusing mac of trying to destroy his WIM, him accusing mac of sharing responsibility for the alison wagon) that make me think he is putting real thought into mac's alignment, and the way he has kind of dug in his heels on his mac read upon being pressured makes me think that the conviction behind his real is real

i think a world where seanzie is a wolf pushing on mac only really makes sense to me if the rest of his team is cornered and he doesn't have many other viable options, but even in that world, i would expect seanzie to be a little bit more strategic about the way that he's pushing mac instead of just loudly insisting he's mafia in the most brazen way possible

i have no idea what seanzie's wolf meta is like so im open to other thoughts but yeah

and why is he not just correct?

btw porscha is lock town now

because i do not think you are mafia even if there exists a theoretical world in which you are playing significantly townier than every wolfgame i have seen from ou

Again no explanation of the town!Mac read here. This one I REALLY don't like, because the question isn't "Do you townread me?", it's "why isn't Sean correct", and SPF responded by NOT saying WHY they townread Mac, just that they townread Mac. "why isn't Sean correct" in this context is asking "WHY do you townread Mac". Bad. Bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad BAD.

I'd really like some input on this. The game does not feel like it is a bunch of polarized people and slankers wolfing. I think with 5 wolves in a 20 person setup, powerwolfing makes sense. Please someone talk to me.

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After going through and commenting on all the posts in the above spoiler, a new line of thinking came to me, included below. Spoilered because I am not super confident about it and it is not fully fleshed out and I don't want it to detract from what I have above about Mac/SPF (even though some if it leaked into the thoughts about the posts I've quoted)

Spoiler: show

Bereft fits perfectly into a Mac/SPF powerwolfing team, at least based on these posts and what I can remember off the top of my head from Bereft's play. I'mma go ISO them

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 9:47 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 7:05 pm Also, @Bereft can you tldr your mafia experience level, and tell me who you know here and how familiar you are with people?

@Bereft this would help me a lot.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:29 pm @everyone

Talk to me about my closer to null players. Who has a strong opinion on Sabi/Porscha/Wilgy/Seanzie/Sig/Rondo? Who should I be smart enough to townread and take out of this pile?

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:02 pm veto the creature wagon today

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 5:54 pm I'm baffled the recent spate of shade on Dennis/Rondo but I couldn't keep track of the people doing this.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:30 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:24 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:58 am
I also wanna yeet Rondo but it’s not the ideal play today. I’m just saying. Rondo bad.

Hahaha, got more than caveman speak on why I am bad?

I almost always feel you are town when we play together. You aren’t shining, here.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:13 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:08 pm Dennis said they think you're likely town in their readlist.

yeah but not as town as the other oracle so I see that as a sus

Roxy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:42 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:35 am

Roxy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 08, 2023 8:32 am Ps this is my only appearance this day. I voted Dennis

Bc I won't be back or respond to anyone.

If you wont highlight how its obvious on Dennis I wont vote him or rally on your behalf

Fu Rondo for making me want to help you


Every game, 2 so far, he finds his own suspicions he did it in his own fashion, this game feels like he is being led in the thread by whatever bad town play is in action. No questions just doing what he told. He did not do this before in either game. It feels like a mafia member told him here's how to be bad. And it's obv bc It does not fit with his play from the other games.



Ps this ploy will no longer work and will self destruct when I hit submit.

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:24 pm @sig I did come back, you not reading beige giving thoughts is a bad look for you.

Lucy saying I was frozen is odd considering we had exchanges when I did come back and vote

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:30 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:10 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:30 am

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 1:24 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:58 am
I also wanna yeet Rondo but it’s not the ideal play today. I’m just saying. Rondo bad.

Hahaha, got more than caveman speak on why I am bad?

I almost always feel you are town when we play together. You aren’t shining, here.

Also Seanzie did that Twist thing earlier where they expressed Roxy's exact concern about Dennis and then voted Kate.

Are you…confusing Rondo and Seanzie?

When I’m talking to Rondo about Rondo, you chime in about 3 other players and idk what that has to do with the post you quoted lol.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:42 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 4:52 pm This game confuses me currently but I haven't been able to articulate why.

can you try to? it would be helpful to hear right now

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:43 pm just a random thought but it occurred to me that i think the odds of tutuu being mafia are particularly higher than rondo or seanzie being mafia even though i have them lower in my list of townreads

lucy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:47 pm there’s probably one in sig/tutuu
and i have no idea which

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 11:16 am

sig wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:53 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 10:43 am

sig wrote: ↑Sat Jan 07, 2023 9:26 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:37 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 06, 2023 10:32 pm Someone talk to me about Sig, if you want. I can't make you

They were one of the sketchiest votes on Alison and I kinda thought his D1 entrance was forced. Also it feels like his wolfread on me was pure OMGUS and was implying I was pushing him for being known LHF (when he's clearly not being LHF this game).

Why was I the sketchiest vote? This narrative makes no sense .


Can’t comment on forced D1 it’s how I always come in I was joking it’s whatever.

I am/was LHF and used to be frequently misvoted, this is a very odd take. Plus my name keeps getting brought up meaning I’m still in the mix/LHF this game

Is Creature weaving a false narrative in your mind? What's your read on them?

I’d throw creature down as a scum lean, there response to me have been off for most of the game (I guess this falls more into the gut read camp) and he seems to be more actively pushing wagons than civ creature does.

I’d be curious to see if this Roxy flip is current since he’s been pushing it, but if she flips civ he’d be someone I’m eyeing a lot more.

He’s also on my ISO list so I’ll have more infor here soon

This post feels very teammate indicative if Creature flips W.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:51 pm @Bereft -

there is a somewhat awkward shift between creature shotgun townreading roxy early on:

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:40 pm I think Roxy is town. They're being too deliberately provocative.

to creature capitulating to the threadstate consensus that roxy is wolfy and pushing on her and calling her one of his top townreads

creature did not form a real scumread on roxy until roxy was being widely suspected, and prior to that point, he tried to defend her. roxy made a point of throwing out creature's name as a point of suspicion a few times but never really pursued the read further. i see no reason why they are incompatible

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:53 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 6:48 pm How about Jack/Creature, do people think they can be partnered.

lol I am already being partnered with two of my wolfreads. May as well add a third.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:04 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:01 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 7:57 pm i dont really have a lot to say before the day ends

im here while multitasking at work if anyone wants to talk to me i guess

Do you agree both Roxy and sig are wolves? Where would you go next excluding me?

i am struggling to come to a world where roxy/sig/jack/sabi/tutuu does not contain the majority of the wolfteam

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:15 pm We are in the midgame so I am just going to force myself not to weathervane cuz if I'm wrong we probably are going to lose and if I'm right we will lose unless I stop playing badly.

@falcon45ca @Seanzie @RondoDimBuckle @DrWilgy

I believe you four are town. I need you to find me town or I am going to be nothing but a distraction and it will continue to cyclically frustrate me all game. Whatever suspicion you have towards me needs to die now or this game will be a loss for town imo.

@staypositivefriend @Bereft I am choosing to disregard tinfoil towards you both. I am willing to just mason with you ride or die.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:20 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:17 pm If one puts:

Bereft
lucy
RondoDimBuckle
MacDougall
Porscha
Seanzie
staypositivefriend
falcon45ca

as town, then the game is near locked so I don't quite see the issue here.

Do you think all these players are town?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:51 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:49 pm How about Roxy/Kate/Jack/Wilgy/Tutuu .

you're missing sig

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:53 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:51 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Mon Jan 09, 2023 8:49 pm How about Roxy/Kate/Jack/Wilgy/Tutuu .

you're missing sig

I don't think Wilgy is mafia.