The Syndicate

Frist

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:03 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:01 pmFrist
Only mafia post first as they’re the most excited to play the game. It is known

You got me WalterWhite.gif

Voted sig. I’m town.

Cya tomorrow.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:07 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:06 pm Voted sig. I’m town.

Cya tomorrow.

I’m fully prepared to OMGUS all the way to the end game

You will lose.

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:09 pm this game will be glorious, one thing to note is that i will be tryharding this game

Such zealot vibes

Of this PL, I’ve only played with JackofHearts, Creature and Lucy before. I’ll probably sheep SPF’s reads until I decide she’s mafia.

If day ended in 10 minutes I’d definitely vote for Rondo.

Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:13 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:12 pm If day ended in 10 minutes I’d definitely vote for Rondo.
Why

Trying to discredit a not-very-serious reads list seems overly defensive.

I think Lucy is slightly unlikely to make that post if she and Max are w/w.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:35 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:33 pm I think Lucy is slightly unlikely to make that post if she and Max are w/w.
you can be a wolf

[VOTE: Baudib1 [/vote[] aubergine

[VOTE:

Definitely can be.] aubergine

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:35 pm i think rondo is always a very easy townread
i think mac town idk vibes astrology saturn
think lucy is town for the "imma tryhard this game" line
i think sean town coz idk vibes feelings jupiter
i think neon is town for those kpop gifs. she felt bad for last game with the npcs and stuff and now she chilling. an nyeong ha seyo

Free town reads for Koreans (D1 only).

Falcon wolfiest entrance by far.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:58 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:44 pm Falcon wolfiest entrance by far.
what's scummy about his entrance?

First post is making an excuse for being scummy (“I’m not mafia even tho u will think I am later”), 2nd post is making a nonsensical read (“being solvey is scummy”) based on Mac being too serious too early, while being too serious too early. I.e. making up something to say and using projection.

SPF that’s a thin read but I’ll allow it for now (in italics).

We definitely should not vote Lucy today.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:42 am lucy
rondo
mac

seanzie
dennis
neon

baudib1
sig
creature

i think spf's thoughts are pretty logical and easy to nod along as i was reading them (not that i think that its necessarily relevant to her alignment or anyone else's alignment) - just saying this coz spf is hard to read but so far shes repping a standard sensible town pov fmpov

im gonna lock town lucy for her reply to spf it was funny too

idk bout justification for baudi orange color and mac promotion just venus pluton vibes

Lots of wolfy addendums/modifiers/clauses in this post tho
“Not that I think”/“just saying this coz”/“idk bout”

I have only been pocketed by Alison so far.

Ending day early is awesome.

I wouldn’t claim.

I’m a little bored tbh.

Mac’s posts are like, the words are fine and even correct/smart but they don’t come across as free-flowing and tonally amazing and that’s a red flag to me coming from a skilled player.

I’m down with sheeping Alison for now.

Someone make me a cute pfp pls

I only have viable reads on like 4/5 people and I still think 98% of the posts in this game are NAI.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:29 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:55 am Somebody do something to make me feel something.
I'm listening to Easy to Tame by Kim Mitchell, and got Rich Gurl by Hall & Oates qued up next.

Get hyped.

What's your take on Wilgy?
lol I think DrWilgy had a wolf list that feels like it's 0/3 so he can go
Yeah, but it's D1...weird reason to SR him IMO

No it isn’t.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:30 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:20 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:55 am Somebody do something to make me feel something.
I'm listening to Easy to Tame by Kim Mitchell, and got Rich Gurl by Hall & Oates qued up next.

Get hyped.

What's your take on Wilgy?
What is your take on me?
You have an engagement & solve level I'd say is 65% Town

65% town is > rand mafia

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:32 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:29 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:02 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:14 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:55 am Somebody do something to make me feel something.
I'm listening to Easy to Tame by Kim Mitchell, and got Rich Gurl by Hall & Oates qued up next.

Get hyped.

What's your take on Wilgy?
lol I think DrWilgy had a wolf list that feels like it's 0/3 so he can go
Yeah, but it's D1...weird reason to SR him IMO
The same can be said to literally any wolfread rn. Gotta start somewhere.
No, that's not true. Lots of legit reasons to SR a player can & do emerge D1, but to SR a player just cuz you feel they have 0 wolves in a list of 3 is utter crap

Once again, no it isn’t. Pushing wrong world views is exactly what scum do.

The urge to vote Mac is a lot higher than I thought it could be at this point in the game.

I don’t have any opinions on anyone’s reads lists.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:52 pm @RondoDimBuckle pretty sure the level of tryharding i put into the thread has zero correlation to my alignment, furthermore my spew is notoriously hard to read so i’m pretty sure that analysis won’t do shit even if i was a wolf. so my question is, why do you think that it will, and why do you think that wim matters?

also i thought u were bluffing or calling me a wolf, i thought getting u to verbalize those thoughts make your thoughts about 2 wolves above this line super wolfy

which is why i SR you atm

Hi Lucy
Of all the people who have substantive posts in this game, I probably like Rondo’s the least. Not necessarily wolfy, I just don’t like them.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:53 pm Thoughts on Jack? I guess he gives me KOTH vibes but want a second opinion.

He’s being aggressively null.

I'm not convinced Alison is correct but I think she believes she's correct.

ergo voting/sussing her is probably not ideal.

In the absence of doing anything villagery, Jack is pretty votable imo.

Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:49 pm The urge to vote Mac is a lot higher than I thought it could be at this point in the game.

Anyone have thoughts on this? It's probably just me.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:21 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:20 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:49 pm The urge to vote Mac is a lot higher than I thought it could be at this point in the game.
Anyone have thoughts on this? It's probably just me.
Not voting mac d1 without a really compelling reason, since if he's town there's a good chance he either gets nightkilled or slaughters the entire wolf team

yeah that's fair.

I'd vote for Kate, Rondo, Jack, Falcon, Dr Wilgy today, probably not anyone else.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:29 pm Oh lol I'm getting Roxy and Rondo confused

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:25 pm
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Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:21 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:12 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:07 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:03 pm snipped bc reasons-----

Hey Roxy, have you played with Creature before?
No why does it matter? It doesn't in mafia. Bad posts are, well, bad. It's why we ask questions and expect answers. It is the towns only weapon.
Ok I'm really feeling like making w/w reads. Fun af

this time not with sig, but i think Roxy is w/w with Creature for his previous post blasting at him

So they never played before, and Roxy's first game-relevant post (afaik) is coming in guns blazing dismantling creature's post that was posted at around the middle/later part of the thread

It just feels like w/w. mafia tend to unnecessarily scumread each other so much, im noticing

Let me check if creature reacted to it (i hope he didnt so i can confbias myself further to believe this read)
Oh honey. that was not guns blazing, you have never played with me but you act like I have tells. If you want a tell look at Felt Mafia 2. I was bad with Kate, SVS and Epi. We never suspected each other let alone voted for each other. I protect my teammates. I do not bus. Which is why we won that game with all four of us still alive. The new players such as yourself do not play this way. (see my baddie game w/lucy LGM) New players mostly all want passes to D 4 so they have info to go off of. OG players like myself find our actual suspicions in the thread. We do not vote without reasons or otherwise we would be the next elim.

Guillotine, is that you?

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:27 pm Maybe Roxy is from Mafia451
There are 3 separate posts Creature makes all saying "I don't know who Roxy is"

I'm really confbiased / tunneled atm so take with a grain of salt but

I really think these guys are mafia together

nah

FTR I agree with almost all of Alison’s posts at least to a certain degree. Pocketing intensifies.

I wonder if W!Creature, having not played with me in many years, would play like this and call me his top townread in a game full of people who don’t know me. I would think not but then maybe it would be a clever approach to the game. I actually don’t remember what he thinks of me in general so maybe none of this matters much.

Anyway Creature is town.

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:23 pm I think jack is outed for insinuating that alison would never go balls to the wall trying to kill a player d1 for doing nothing

Let’s kill him.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:25 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:22 pm I wonder if W!Creature, having not played with me in many years, would play like this and call me his top townread in a game full of people who don’t know me. I would think not but then maybe it would be a clever approach to the game. I actually don’t remember what he thinks of me in general so maybe none of this matters much.

Anyway Creature is town.
why? do u have any thoughts on the stuff i posted about him on this page?

I think given his playstyle and his own view of his meta and solving style he would throw in more fake comments to enhance his reads rather than give off-the-cuff reads.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:31 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:29 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:25 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:22 pm I wonder if W!Creature, having not played with me in many years, would play like this and call me his top townread in a game full of people who don’t know me. I would think not but then maybe it would be a clever approach to the game. I actually don’t remember what he thinks of me in general so maybe none of this matters much.

Anyway Creature is town.
why? do u have any thoughts on the stuff i posted about him on this page?
I think given his playstyle and his own view of his meta and solving style he would throw in more fake comments to enhance his reads rather than give off-the-cuff reads.
shrug. i don't know creautre's meta that well in general. i just think he has an increased boost in confidence and assertiveness that is slightly more easy for me to model as coming from someone who is playing from the position of TMI than coming from someone who has wildly changed their playstyle and the way they think about the game over the course of exactly one game

you specc'd da bois invitational too, so do you see what i mean? do u think im being unreasonable rn?

I didn’t read much of the early game, mostly because I knew it would be a lot of terrible posts in why you should kill Ladd.

I mean I’ll take your view into account for sure. I think I’m probably as good as anyone D3 and onward but I’m not particularly useful on D1s.

Lucy was hard-vibing PR anyway so that’s fine.

Creature wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:55 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm i tried to play this cycle intentionally scummy thus far, being widely townread is weird and there are a few possible reasons for it
Wouldn't it have been better for the oracle to draw the NK?

I think Lucy was trying to draw heat and attempt to make reads odd that, knowing that she had a trump card to prevent her elimination.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:03 pm *magically puts more pressure on baudi and porscha coz they're getting townreads and i dont LIKE IT*

Sure

Some people are born great
Others have greatness thrust upon them
Sometimes you should just yeet Jack

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:11 pm Alison/Baudib at least not w/w, which is neat.

Wrong we are obv w/w

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:14 pm
Baudib1 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:12 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:11 pm Alison/Baudib at least not w/w, which is neat.
Wrong we are obv w/w
I know you're the last person I have to say this to but I just don't think that Alison ever asks for or her teammate ever feels the need to chainsaw defend her with a meh push on me. Like you let Alison handle it herself, you silence me with nks, you bus Alison. She doesn't want or need your help.

That’s not how I would handle it.
I’m not a fan of preflip associative reads at all and in general people overestimate their ability to make sense of associative reads postflip anyway.
I assure you there’s nothing in this hand I couldn’t do as W/W with anyone.

Bereft wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:02 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:35 pm Next question: should we let lucy determine the elim as the IC

I think we should settle it now before she gives reads so mafia can't support/oppose the idea based on her reads
No.

I will take this opportunity to state in advance in response to whoever it was that thought card usage discussion is useful, that I will take full advantage of "antitown" cards. They're not "antitown" if used correctly. Wish I remembered who I'm responding to.

I agree. It was tutuu

The reason Jack is mafia is because, even given he was in RVS mode later than everyone else, he decided to troll the game with every single post. When he unexpectedly took heat for this he just rolled with it to try to deflect. This is a very common mafia technique and we should lunch him.

If you are not voting Jack or if you are voting with Jack you should feel less than stellar about yourself.

I like these people:
Lucy
Alison
Creature
SPF
Bereft

Don’t like these people
Falcon
Rondo
DrWilgy
Kate
Jack

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