The Syndicate

I think i underestimated my health situation, i’ll try to respond when i get the time.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:46 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 1:36 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:55 am @MacDougall Which is more likely?

A) Wolf Sloonei went out of his way to hard-defend two teammates on Day 1, one of which was superslanky Creature

OR

B) Town Slooonei misread Scotty
Mmm. B.

Do a Neon dive pretty please.
Tomorrow evening. It’s 2 AM.

Rest pls

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:56 am
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 2:40 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:32 am
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:23 am
Zenge wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:04 am
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 11:55 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:26 pm I think Falcon said a provocative thing about you and you were provoked. I think he made a mountain out of a molehill first, and you responded by making your out mountain out of your own molehill. Falcon's initial gripe, whether or not we believe it, was that you were not proactive enough in addressing your concerns about the early Miranda votes. Was it fair as an accusation at face value? Not really. But was it an acceptable play for early Day 1 of a crossover mafia game on Mafiathesyndicate.com? Absolutely.

You responded critically and defensively, because it was a bit of a bogus accusation. That is fair. But, in your response, I felt you took some liberties with his words, or at least presented a rather one-sided view of his position (It is not hard to see how falcon could interpret your initial concern as being simply the speed with which the votes occurred). This is reminiscent of how you have responded to me today. But, again, that is fine, because it is Day 1 of a mafia game, and we need to twist some words to get people talking.

Was I swayed by any of the arguments either of you made against one another? No. I was not. If I am to give a read, it's that both of you are town. Falcon, for playing the role of provocateur. You, because your defensive reaction turned into what looks to be a very firmly-held belief that you are onto something. But neither of those are strong reads, which is why I will again stress that I'm more interested in seeing how you respond to other things.

I do not believe there is anything meaningful to be gained by continuing this dialogue.
Get out of here with your calm and reasoning.

Also, intentionally being peacemaker and trying to stop a distracting argument feels town to me.
This isn’t “calm and reason”.

They refused to actually answer the question I was asking. They said a lot of words without saying anything of meaning.
Reading it as an outsider to the argument, I think they are frustrated that it's been going on for a week and a half without either you or falcon really offering anything new.

Sloonei's post reads like trying to move the thread along. I would guess that's why they aren't engaging with your questions.

If falcon were to flip wolf, it wouldn't be a great look for Sloonei, but they wouldn't be the only person viewing the argument as V/V.
The issue I take with Sloonei, isn’t that they’re reading it as v/v.

It’s the way in which the initial response to me pushing Falcon was an attempt to shut down any conversation by saying “that’s just how Falcon is” without ever being willing to highlight specific parts of the interaction they agreed with and disagreed with, despite repeated requests to do so. Never once.
I think that's come through clearly in your posts, but it's clear they don't want to engage. I still think they seem like a villager who is tired of the same argument.

If your falcon tunnel is right, then it's more likely that I'm wrong about how I interpreted that post.
Though I'm not town reading falcon.

Sloonei has sounded town in how they have approached this to me, even if I think he could have dodged some frustration by answering questions earlier.

This right here shows you’re backing Slooneis’s point but then adding a “i’m not town reading falcons” post to give yourself an out

Hold pls

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:45 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:42 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:39 pm Lawpy did you use both your votes on Mayo?
No pls i used a single vote
Didn't you have a bonus vote?

I did but i didn’t use it.

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:45 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:40 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:38 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:34 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:25 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:21 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:16 pm

A convenient fake claim in this instance.

You said it was to reassess my affiliation.

How does sending me fruit help you reassess me?
A genuine claim pls.

To see if it works.
Who did you target N1?
Its even nights pls
Convenient.

So your fruit vendor ability only worked the one night where I, completely coincidentally, decided to start the day asking you what you did last night?
It’s independent of your questioning pls
So the plan was:

1. You have a fruit vendor ability that only worked 1 night so far

2. You decided to send it to me, with the hopes of asking about it

3. This information would somehow help you reassess my affiliation.

4. Entirely coincidentally, I had decided to start the day by tagging you on the thread and asking you what you did last night.

5. You quoted that post

6. Your response to that quote was independent of it

No 2 goes too far. Yes i sent it to you but i’m aware that this is a role madness game so i can’t be certain whether you actually received it. I was trying to use it like a visitor role.

And yes, again, i don’t start off blindly discussing mechanics. You asked a mechanical question, so i quoted it and replied.

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:39 pm Lawpy did you use both your votes on Mayo?

No pls i used a single vote

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:38 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:34 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:25 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:21 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:16 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:14 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:08 pm

How would me receiving functionless fruit give you useful information into my affiliation??

Was your master plan to ask me about the fruit, and I just happened to ask you what you did last night first?

Did your write your name on it?
Do you know what a fruit vendor is pls?
A convenient fake claim in this instance.

You said it was to reassess my affiliation.

How does sending me fruit help you reassess me?
A genuine claim pls.

To see if it works.
Who did you target N1?
Its even nights pls
Convenient.

So your fruit vendor ability only worked the one night where I, completely coincidentally, decided to start the day asking you what you did last night?

It’s independent of your questioning pls

And my suspecting of you doesn’t remove Slooneis from my POE. He’s still there

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:36 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:32 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:24 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:19 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:06 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:01 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:49 pm

I'm not above bussing, but I doubt I would ever do it in a game when I extremely inactive and uncertain if I will be able to login before close.

If you want to say that my creature vote doesn't hard clear me, sure, I agree.

Your anti-bus vote looks far worse
You’re right i don’t bus but i don’t have a good VCA in general as demonstated by Stardew 2 and other recent games i played as village. In fact, i literally fought a deepwolf in that game and didn’t even vote for him. We actually voted together! And i was village! And yet an argument could be made that such an act back then was theater.
I didn't play that game, nor did most people here.

You are saying we should disregard your VCA in all future games because you followed a deepwolf onto a misyeet?

The VCA looks bad.

Your tone sounds bad.

And it sure looks like you were pocketing zenge while trying to encourage v/v arguments to distract from where he was actually pushing.

What did you do last night Lawwpy?
It’s not just Stardew 2. I had bad VCA before as village quite often because i have a bad habit of not voting for wolves despite fighting with them. That’s why in every game i play, i get railed for having bad VCA

And my tone is genuine pls. Zenges was facing resistance to his falcons push. This is a fact. But i can see which trajectories in this resistance are coming from a sincere, village perspective of warning Zenges not to be trapped in a confbias tunnel vs a subtle nudge to take the heat off of falcons.
It would appear that you can't. Since you landed on me, who never once said zenge should back off of falcon. Not once. I said they should not automatically include Sloo in their falcon read. You defended zenge and didn't actually pursue the wolf... that's wolfy.

You can't just get a blanket pass on your VCA. That's not how the game works. Especially when you have a known wolf meta of never bussing. That's the double edged sword of the church of AM. It clears you as village, but it attracts attention when wolfing
Mayos pls i gave an example of Santy. You were coming across as an engaged bystander trying to back Slooneis who was trying to nudge Zenges away vs Santy actually making a direct point in not getting confbiased only on falcons and finding other wolfreads independent of the falcons read. Seanzies also raised valid points. So no, it’s not a blind defense of Zenges.

I had falcons and creatures in my POE. I’m aware of the drawbacks of never bussing but Creatures was practically a dead wolf walking starting D2 and falcons was being tunneled by Zenges. So i was trying to solve beyond these 2 and honed into the those contributing to resistance to Zenges push on falcons
By this logic you should be voting Sloo who you say was actively resisting Zenge. Me saying I didn't auto-wolf Sloo for it only makes me wolfy if Sloo is wolf.

I did vote Slooneis. Before switching to you

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:26 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:21 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:16 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:14 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:08 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:06 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:55 pm

Then what fruit basket might you have sent to your #1 wolf read?
Fruits by their nature don’t do anything but be consumed pls.

I was also reevaluating during the night to see if i can give you a benefit of doubt from your later posts so acting on you with fruits that don’t have any function besides serving as a sort of visitor role seemed like the best bet.
How would me receiving functionless fruit give you useful information into my affiliation??

Was your master plan to ask me about the fruit, and I just happened to ask you what you did last night first?

Did your write your name on it?
Do you know what a fruit vendor is pls?
A convenient fake claim in this instance.

You said it was to reassess my affiliation.

How does sending me fruit help you reassess me?
A genuine claim pls.

To see if it works.
I brought up night actions Lawwpy.

Not you.

I wouldn't know the fruit was from you and wouldn't start the day by mentioning it.

I don't buy that you were planning on starting the day by asking me about fruit to see if it works. I also don't see how that would help you to reassess me

Mayos pls you know i don’t discuss mechanics unless there’s a context, so why would i blindly discuss my night actions right at the start of the day? You asked a mechanical question which i responded with a mechanical answer.

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:25 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:21 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:16 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:14 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:08 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:06 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:55 pm

Then what fruit basket might you have sent to your #1 wolf read?
Fruits by their nature don’t do anything but be consumed pls.

I was also reevaluating during the night to see if i can give you a benefit of doubt from your later posts so acting on you with fruits that don’t have any function besides serving as a sort of visitor role seemed like the best bet.
How would me receiving functionless fruit give you useful information into my affiliation??

Was your master plan to ask me about the fruit, and I just happened to ask you what you did last night first?

Did your write your name on it?
Do you know what a fruit vendor is pls?
A convenient fake claim in this instance.

You said it was to reassess my affiliation.

How does sending me fruit help you reassess me?
A genuine claim pls.

To see if it works.
Who did you target N1?

Its even nights pls

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:24 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:19 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:06 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:01 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:49 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:46 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:42 pm

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.

What did you do last night Lawwpy?
The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?
I'm not above bussing, but I doubt I would ever do it in a game when I extremely inactive and uncertain if I will be able to login before close.

If you want to say that my creature vote doesn't hard clear me, sure, I agree.

Your anti-bus vote looks far worse
You’re right i don’t bus but i don’t have a good VCA in general as demonstated by Stardew 2 and other recent games i played as village. In fact, i literally fought a deepwolf in that game and didn’t even vote for him. We actually voted together! And i was village! And yet an argument could be made that such an act back then was theater.
I didn't play that game, nor did most people here.

You are saying we should disregard your VCA in all future games because you followed a deepwolf onto a misyeet?

The VCA looks bad.

Your tone sounds bad.

And it sure looks like you were pocketing zenge while trying to encourage v/v arguments to distract from where he was actually pushing.

What did you do last night Lawwpy?
It’s not just Stardew 2. I had bad VCA before as village quite often because i have a bad habit of not voting for wolves despite fighting with them. That’s why in every game i play, i get railed for having bad VCA

And my tone is genuine pls. Zenges was facing resistance to his falcons push. This is a fact. But i can see which trajectories in this resistance are coming from a sincere, village perspective of warning Zenges not to be trapped in a confbias tunnel vs a subtle nudge to take the heat off of falcons.
It would appear that you can't. Since you landed on me, who never once said zenge should back off of falcon. Not once. I said they should not automatically include Sloo in their falcon read. You defended zenge and didn't actually pursue the wolf... that's wolfy.

You can't just get a blanket pass on your VCA. That's not how the game works. Especially when you have a known wolf meta of never bussing. That's the double edged sword of the church of AM. It clears you as village, but it attracts attention when wolfing

Mayos pls i gave an example of Santy. You were coming across as an engaged bystander trying to back Slooneis who was trying to nudge Zenges away vs Santy actually making a direct point in not getting confbiased only on falcons and finding other wolfreads independent of the falcons read. Seanzies also raised valid points. So no, it’s not a blind defense of Zenges.

I had falcons and creatures in my POE. I’m aware of the drawbacks of never bussing but Creatures was practically a dead wolf walking starting D2 and falcons was being tunneled by Zenges. So i was trying to solve beyond these 2 and honed into the those contributing to resistance to Zenges push on falcons

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:16 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:14 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:08 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:06 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:55 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:48 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:47 pm

Was it a poisoned apple?
No pls
Then what fruit basket might you have sent to your #1 wolf read?
Fruits by their nature don’t do anything but be consumed pls.

I was also reevaluating during the night to see if i can give you a benefit of doubt from your later posts so acting on you with fruits that don’t have any function besides serving as a sort of visitor role seemed like the best bet.
How would me receiving functionless fruit give you useful information into my affiliation??

Was your master plan to ask me about the fruit, and I just happened to ask you what you did last night first?

Did your write your name on it?
Do you know what a fruit vendor is pls?
A convenient fake claim in this instance.

You said it was to reassess my affiliation.

How does sending me fruit help you reassess me?

A genuine claim pls.

To see if it works.

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:06 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:01 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:49 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:46 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:42 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:34 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:28 pm

Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.

Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.
Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.

What did you do last night Lawwpy?
The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?
I'm not above bussing, but I doubt I would ever do it in a game when I extremely inactive and uncertain if I will be able to login before close.

If you want to say that my creature vote doesn't hard clear me, sure, I agree.

Your anti-bus vote looks far worse
You’re right i don’t bus but i don’t have a good VCA in general as demonstated by Stardew 2 and other recent games i played as village. In fact, i literally fought a deepwolf in that game and didn’t even vote for him. We actually voted together! And i was village! And yet an argument could be made that such an act back then was theater.
I didn't play that game, nor did most people here.

You are saying we should disregard your VCA in all future games because you followed a deepwolf onto a misyeet?

The VCA looks bad.

Your tone sounds bad.

And it sure looks like you were pocketing zenge while trying to encourage v/v arguments to distract from where he was actually pushing.

What did you do last night Lawwpy?

It’s not just Stardew 2. I had bad VCA before as village quite often because i have a bad habit of not voting for wolves despite fighting with them. That’s why in every game i play, i get railed for having bad VCA

And my tone is genuine pls. Zenges was facing resistance to his falcons push. This is a fact. But i can see which trajectories in this resistance are coming from a sincere, village perspective of warning Zenges not to be trapped in a confbias tunnel vs a subtle nudge to take the heat off of falcons.

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:08 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:06 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:55 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:48 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:47 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:46 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:42 pm

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.

What did you do last night Lawwpy?
The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

Was it a poisoned apple?
No pls
Then what fruit basket might you have sent to your #1 wolf read?
Fruits by their nature don’t do anything but be consumed pls.

I was also reevaluating during the night to see if i can give you a benefit of doubt from your later posts so acting on you with fruits that don’t have any function besides serving as a sort of visitor role seemed like the best bet.
How would me receiving functionless fruit give you useful information into my affiliation??

Was your master plan to ask me about the fruit, and I just happened to ask you what you did last night first?

Did your write your name on it?

Do you know what a fruit vendor is pls?

Was Neons the one who originally wolfread falcons before townreading him?

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:55 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:48 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:47 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:46 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:42 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:34 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:28 pm

Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.

Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.
Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.

What did you do last night Lawwpy?
The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

Was it a poisoned apple?
No pls
Then what fruit basket might you have sent to your #1 wolf read?

Fruits by their nature don’t do anything but be consumed pls.

I was also reevaluating during the night to see if i can give you a benefit of doubt from your later posts so acting on you with fruits that don’t have any function besides serving as a sort of visitor role seemed like the best bet.

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:00 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:45 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:42 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:37 pm I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?
I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.
Lawpy has sided very strongly with Zenge in the Zenge vs. Sloonei dialogue on Day 1. I have been worried about this. I do not want to bring up bring up past events that are not relevant. But I think I have made myself clear that I do not believe Zenge was responding to my posts fairly or accurately. I believe others have expressed similar feelings. But I'm not interested in polling the room. I just want to note that Lawpy has used this issue to frame me as a suspect since subbing into the game without seeming to give much consideration to the other side of the coin.
Frame is definitely wrong and implies i’m disingenuous. I was honing in on Zenges vs Falcons because Zenges was receiving a lot of major pushback and resistance that made me suspect wolves were trying to defend Falcons and get the heat off of him. And i still argue that’s the case. And i already acknowledged in a response to Nates that Zenges might be confbiasing but i still backed his tunnel on Falcons strongly and was honing in on anyone trying to mount a resistance against him. I also very clearly mentioned how trajectory matters because Santy defended Falcons too and yet i’m village reading him because the way he engaged with Zenges is coming from a more genuine solving approach as opposed to your attempt in trying to subtly nudge Zenges away from the tunnel while gradually moderating and shifting your stance to make it seem you’re explicitly anti Falcons
You defended Zenges from anyone who argued with him, while avoiding actually pushing the wolf.

You just described how to pocket someone.

Like, textbook

No because i acknowledged Santy and Nates raised a valid criticism of Zenges.

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:49 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:46 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:42 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:34 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:28 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:18 pm

Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.
The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn
Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.

Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.
Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.

What did you do last night Lawwpy?
The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?
I'm not above bussing, but I doubt I would ever do it in a game when I extremely inactive and uncertain if I will be able to login before close.

If you want to say that my creature vote doesn't hard clear me, sure, I agree.

Your anti-bus vote looks far worse

You’re right i don’t bus but i don’t have a good VCA in general as demonstated by Stardew 2 and other recent games i played as village. In fact, i literally fought a deepwolf in that game and didn’t even vote for him. We actually voted together! And i was village! And yet an argument could be made that such an act back then was theater.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:45 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:42 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:37 pm I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?
I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.
Lawpy has sided very strongly with Zenge in the Zenge vs. Sloonei dialogue on Day 1. I have been worried about this. I do not want to bring up bring up past events that are not relevant. But I think I have made myself clear that I do not believe Zenge was responding to my posts fairly or accurately. I believe others have expressed similar feelings. But I'm not interested in polling the room. I just want to note that Lawpy has used this issue to frame me as a suspect since subbing into the game without seeming to give much consideration to the other side of the coin.

Frame is definitely wrong and implies i’m disingenuous. I was honing in on Zenges vs Falcons because Zenges was receiving a lot of major pushback and resistance that made me suspect wolves were trying to defend Falcons and get the heat off of him. And i still argue that’s the case. And i already acknowledged in a response to Nates that Zenges might be confbiasing but i still backed his tunnel on Falcons strongly and was honing in on anyone trying to mount a resistance against him. I also very clearly mentioned how trajectory matters because Santy defended Falcons too and yet i’m village reading him because the way he engaged with Zenges is coming from a more genuine solving approach as opposed to your attempt in trying to subtly nudge Zenges away from the tunnel while gradually moderating and shifting your stance to make it seem you’re explicitly anti Falcons

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:44 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:42 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:37 pm I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?
I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.
You think Mayo bussed?

What about Dennis?

Mayos has bussed before, so yes.

Dennis is currently in my neutrals

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:47 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:46 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:42 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:34 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:28 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:18 pm

Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.
The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn
Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.

Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.
Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.

What did you do last night Lawwpy?
The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

Was it a poisoned apple?

No pls

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:42 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:34 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:28 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:18 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:16 pm Anyways, I'd look into genny/mayo/miranda maybe today

Also Dennis.

Dennis/Miranda hmmyes
Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.
The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn
Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.

Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.
Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

I said more than once that I thought falcon was sus. My argument that falcon being sus, but didn't think Sloonei was sus for wanting to move on from an argument that wasn't going anywhere.

You'll see that yesterday I was pretty clear that I did not trust the syndicate town reads on falcon over the SDN sus reads.

I was voting creature both days, who is a wolf, so I'm quite content for not joining zenges right away.

What did you do last night Lawwpy?

The argument was a central driving point so moving on was an attempt to discredit that. That was explicitly and directly said so by Zenges many times himself despite the mounting resistance he was facing with the falcons push.

Mayos pls you’re known to bus and have bussed before.

Did you get the fruit?

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:37 pm I'm sorting reads pls.

Who do you think is wolfing Lawpy?

I don’t think my POE changed significantly from before, which btw had falcons and creatures in it.

I’m wolfreading Nates, mayos and Slooneis. Largely because of end of D1 events for Nates + the initial Zenges vote. And how the latter two handled Zenges vs Falcons.

[VOTE: Mayos] aubergine

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:31 pm [VOTE: Lawpy] aubergine

Engaged. Mayo town

Why? You’re making a mistake

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:28 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:18 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:16 pm Anyways, I'd look into genny/mayo/miranda maybe today

Also Dennis.

Dennis/Miranda hmmyes
Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.
The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn
Lawwpy doesn’t sound like Lawwpy this game, which he has done as a wolf.

Lawwpy also doesn’t bus. Both(all three?) viable wagons yesterday were wolves.

Lawwpy randomly sheeped another player’s vote onto me and left it there. Without ever substantiating it or really trying to mount a push.

Lawwpy looks like a wolf Lawwpy trying to hide his vote off wagon. He also doesn’t sound like village Lawwpy as noted above.

I’m quite concerned about Lawwpy today.

Mayos pls i didn’t have a good VCA in Stardew 2 and i was village. In fact that was the biggest gripe people had because i hardly voted for wolves and got pocketed by a deepwolf

I voted you independently of the PSV/pshelty’s vote. My concerns were that you appeared to be an engaged bystander of the Zenges vs Falcons fight while i was taking a hardline pro-Zenges stance and made a weird defense of Slooneis. It was, and still is, the reason why i think you’re wolfing and i voted there.

The Lawpyism thing is also demonstrably false as can be evidence by an iso of my posts before you announced the tell. The context is also critical. I subbed in middle of D2 with a low post cap so i can’t do my usual post-by-post catch up to avoid accidentally capping myself. And so i have to keep my posts reserved and content focused. Even then, the Lawpyisms are there

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:21 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:18 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:16 pm Anyways, I'd look into genny/mayo/miranda maybe today

Also Dennis.

Dennis/Miranda hmmyes
Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.
The Lawpyism thungy could be true and for them to be a wolf yeah. But I dont have much stock or a good Lawpy read rn

You can look into my posts to see evidence of Lawpyisms even long before mayos mentioned it pls

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:18 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:16 pm Anyways, I'd look into genny/mayo/miranda maybe today

Also Dennis.

Dennis/Miranda hmmyes
Mayo and Miranda seem fine to me. Genny is just a complete shrug.

What do you think of Lawpy/Dya? Dya was quite pivotal in saving Creature and ensuring Scotty went over d1.

I can’t answer for dyas but my understanding was it’s an attempt to give a benefit of doubt for IRL reasons. Obviously that doesn’t look good in retrospect

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:06 pm @Lawpy -what did you do last night?

If you’re gonna lie, please make it convincing

Did you receive a piece of fruit pls?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:49 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:48 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:47 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:43 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:37 pm I'm not opposed to a scum read on Lawpy. Mayo mentioned the lack of Lawpisms and that's something I've pointed out to Lawpy when we've wolfed together.
At the same time I didn't think dya was coming off scummy so ???
The Lawpyisms are there in my posts pls, i don’t overdo it on these forums because the players here aren’t familiar in how i post and i stepped in mid day. Just like i didn’t do this in another forum where i subbed in (and was village). And these are inconsistently used in my village games on SDN too, so it’s not really AI
I also decided no more hijinks amongst the strangers too
Does this mean we’ll never learn what happened with Abigail?
Abigail died of dysentery.

Displeased

Also there’s a post cap and i stepped in middle of D2 so i was quietly catching up to avoid accidentally capping myself prematurely

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:37 pm I'm not opposed to a scum read on Lawpy. Mayo mentioned the lack of Lawpisms and that's something I've pointed out to Lawpy when we've wolfed together.
At the same time I didn't think dya was coming off scummy so ???

The Lawpyisms are there in my posts pls, i don’t overdo it on these forums because the players here aren’t familiar in how i post and i stepped in mid day. Just like i didn’t do this in another forum where i subbed in (and was village). And these are inconsistently used in my village games on SDN too, so it’s not really AI

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:22 pm Why aren't you posting more Lawwpy-isms? pls?

What pls

Were Creatures’s posts today just a Santy vote and vague explanation?

@Creature thoughts pls

supershorty wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:35 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 8:33 pm Me: Please be careful with that post

Literally every mod: presses reply

Terrifying emoji pls

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:55 pm The odds of him randing scum three times in a row:
1.56%
Not impossible. But it would be MIGHTY unlikely.

Why is mighty all caps pls

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:39 pm
NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:53 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:42 pm Why is @Neon voting Dennis?
She said she's wolfreading him for a really dumb reason but hasn't elaborated IIRC
I should probably say something about this huh

Neon and I have this funny history where we can't find each other as town for our lives

I've straight up given up trying to read her and I'm letting other people sort her out

Engaged. Interesting

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:15 pm im going to sheep and remove falcon from my townreads

im sheeping on a few other slots too, influencing my ordering a bit

mac
seanzie
zenge
svs
neon
mayo
dennis
lawpy
sloonei
miranda
SARhandler - (difference check w PSV)

santy

nate

migthyrunner

falcon
genny
creature
marmot
psv

Wait that reminds me

Did mighty post anything today? I saw his falcons vote… but couldn’t find much else?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:28 pm Lawpy has put in a lot of work today, alot of it centered around falcon, but not much centered on myself or Creature.

@Lawpy can I get your thoughts on myself and Creature uwu?

uwu scary pls

I mentioned this earlier but both of you are in my wolfreads based on the D1 discussions i read in my catchup. It’s largely due to the content near the end of D1 that just didn’t sit right with me. Creatures is also really enigmatic to me and i don’t really understand his thought process. At least you’re a bit engaged and i don’t think i saw anything from Creatures today? I’m still trying to understand the rationale for your D1 vote though

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:00 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:42 pm Why is @Neon voting Dennis?
Because I scum read Dennis presumably

Why pls

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:00 pm One thing I worry about is that the SDN players seem to more compulsively townread each other which is causing an overemphasis on Syndicators who don't do that. Yesterday and today all viable wagons have been Syndicators. SDNers are over emphasising on Syndicators and Syndicators are ignoring SDNers due to no SDNers having strong pushes onto other SDNers.

SDNers need to make more effort to find the wolves in the other SDNers or wolf SDNers are gonna skate.

SDNers.

Hmm interesting, because currently i’m voting mayos so i’m curious what posts are making you worry about SDNers compulsively townreading each other. I feel good about Zenges and Santy but many SDNers are floating around in neutrals.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:50 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 11:44 am
Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:34 am
Lawpy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 22, 2023 9:20 pm Hey everyone, I’m Lawpy and i’m currently in the midst of catching up

Also Neons did i play with you before elsewhere? I don’t know if you’re the same Neons i played with when i subbed into Fext’s game
Where was the game?
Over at zelda forums iirc
Yep that was me

Oho! Pleased!

Uh… is there a limit to how many quotes can be nested in replying?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:34 pm
Lawpy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:32 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:20 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:18 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:03 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:00 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:57 pm

She dies early very often and I'm morally opposed to it
I see

I assume it's to the point you would like veto a kill, them?
There is zero doubt in my mind that he would be absolutely enraged about it, as would I. I'm not sure who else of the SDNers would fit that (save the ones who are modding). I'll have to review the list.
It's a bit foggy given we know there are more than mafia and town and we don't know if there are 3p killing factions but assuming mafia killed AM, Zenge isn't mafia. This push on Falcon, whether Falcon is town or not, is absolutely vomiting town for Zenge anyhow.
Other than santy is there anyone she has been consistently good at reading recently?

She makes a lot of sense as the NK from a pure POE perspective. As would mother.

Otherwise this point is well received.
Uhh my first answer was Barks, who is not playing. Lol. I'm sure the answer is yes but I can't immediately think of anyone.
AM misread barky before
Okay? Is that relevant to the current gamestate?

It’s just a counter to your earlier statement of using barky as an example as someone whom AM could read correctly. Santy is probably a better answer tbh

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:20 pm
Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:18 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:03 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:00 pm
Zenge wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:57 pm
Dennis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:56 pm
potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Fri Apr 21, 2023 10:50 pm

Nahhhh. Zenge is lock town, or at least lock not AM's killer. He's never participating in that NK imo.
Why not
She dies early very often and I'm morally opposed to it
I see

I assume it's to the point you would like veto a kill, them?
There is zero doubt in my mind that he would be absolutely enraged about it, as would I. I'm not sure who else of the SDNers would fit that (save the ones who are modding). I'll have to review the list.
It's a bit foggy given we know there are more than mafia and town and we don't know if there are 3p killing factions but assuming mafia killed AM, Zenge isn't mafia. This push on Falcon, whether Falcon is town or not, is absolutely vomiting town for Zenge anyhow.
Other than santy is there anyone she has been consistently good at reading recently?

She makes a lot of sense as the NK from a pure POE perspective. As would mother.

Otherwise this point is well received.
Uhh my first answer was Barks, who is not playing. Lol. I'm sure the answer is yes but I can't immediately think of anyone.

AM misread barky before

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:07 pm I haven’t read most of the game today and have been denied a sub.

I’ll attempt to catch up this afternoon since I’m post call today.

What’s the Tl;dr of the game state currently?

I’ll try to sub but i think it’s going to be hard pls

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:35 pm Anyhow as it stands I am perfectly fine with Marmot, falcon, or Creature going over today. I think they're all good choices.

Has your read on mayos changed?

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 3:29 pm I think if any of the three are town it's probably Marmot, and they're in the unfortunate position of getting lumped in with the wrong crowd.

What makes Creatures look worse than marmots? Because neither of their posts look good to me

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