The Syndicate

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:38 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:37 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:35 pm Is only Mac here or what?

I'm still here but I'm staying out of... Whatever the two of you have going. Just waiting to see if the genny wagon is going to have any movement

Movement in what direction?

You want me yeeted the most rn?

I don't think genny is a hit

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:35 pm Is only Mac here or what?

I'm still here but I'm staying out of... Whatever the two of you have going. Just waiting to see if the genny wagon is going to have any movement

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:20 pm Like, even if its real, they don't give town information if we yeet them, and still can prove it next day if we dont .

So if its true, I think W!genny claiming to have used it on psv its just correct play

Not saying it doesn't have some potential wolf advantages but I still think it makes more sense from a v!genny perspective than a w!genny one

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:14 pm I also believe genny's claim . Don't think its alignment indicative though

Her using it on PSV the night PSV died makes her less likely scum imo

FTR I believe genny's claim

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:12 pm Also this isn't a tie because genny can still self-pres

In honor of AM...

If you look closely

genny wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:09 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:07 pm

genny wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:06 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:05 pm

genny wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:05 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:03 pm genny I doubt most of your wagon intends to move unless you give them some good reason why they should

i'm an even-night role seer and tonight's an even night?

Who did you previously target and why?

you're going to love this - i checked psv on the night she died lol

Lol sounds like something I would do...

Why PSV?

psv and i seem to have trouble finding each other as town, and i thought maybe it would help

Ok. And if PSV had lived you would have learned her ability(ies) yes?

genny wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:06 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:05 pm

genny wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:05 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:03 pm genny I doubt most of your wagon intends to move unless you give them some good reason why they should

i'm an even-night role seer and tonight's an even night?

Who did you previously target and why?

you're going to love this - i checked psv on the night she died lol

Lol sounds like something I would do...

Why PSV?

genny wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:05 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:03 pm genny I doubt most of your wagon intends to move unless you give them some good reason why they should

i'm an even-night role seer and tonight's an even night?

Who did you previously target and why?

genny I doubt most of your wagon intends to move unless you give them some good reason why they should

genny wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:01 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:57 pm

genny wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:56 pm

miranda920 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:25 pm @genny where are your thoughts right now? Who do you think if woofin?

can i give you my thoughts if i'm not woofin? lol

i feel like the village has been pretty accurate thus far in sniffing out wolves (aside from myself), so i don't think i'd go outside the consensus POE.

Okay. But.

What are your reads?

village: mayo, neon, santy, mac, sloonei, nate

neutral: dennis, SAR

wolfy: mighty, miranda, SAR

Should've just put me on your village list too. Then I could be all encompassing

[VOTE: santy] aubergine

Just to keep it interesting

I came back from dinner expecting to have at least two pages to catch up on. I don't know how I feel about that not happening

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:35 pm Would much rather chop Santy than Genny after my iso dive that literally nobody bothered to read which shows he is blatantly partnered with Falcon.

I read it! Just so you don't feel your energy was wasted haha

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:15 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:10 am @santygrass how has my play here differed from Stardeww (where we were both village and you read me correctly) or Hannibal (again, both town, but you "vibed with me")?

Two main differences.

I dont have Dubz soulread to trust here.

I find your reads here and takes much more bland/null.

I felt like In stardeww you did *stuff* even if it was lazy like C'mon even from the cenentery I was rooting for you and you had a Goated reassess moment with Dubz rooting and sending vibes to you. Your head was doing work there and I could see that. Here, I don't nearly as much, so I wont call them equal.

Though what you say is still the reason I havent voted for you so feels weird you are ignoring that and acting as if I'm actively pushing you

You didn't have Dubz in Hannibal.

And I didn't do much in Stardeww until end game. Usually I turn it as more people get voted out because I do actually have to help drive things rather than being more reactionary. I do not feel I was any more contributing in mid-game Stardew than I am here

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:20 pm

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:47 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:14 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:11 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 1:10 am Hard disagree with genny being pure rand.

They are most likely to be scum.

#PSVSheep

Why are they most likely to be scum?

PSV read them as likely scum . Regardless if they were nked or not, I think that read alone makes genny more likely to be scum.

Mayo or SAR correct me here if Im wrong, but most of the time I see genny have lowpost aswell and people like PSV villaread them because of their vibe.
I don't have a very good history on reading genny, but both PSV and now Mayo voting there makes genny most likely to be scum.
Also them not posting like at all its something to consider ig. Could be an indicator of genny having more akwardness or trouble to post than normally

Genny is a low poster, but genny shows up.

I think there is a difference.

Village genny plays her cards close to her chest, but she is solving the game. I don't see her doing that this game.

Her VCA also favors !wolfgenny. Parking votes off wagon or voting a packmate (falcon) late for credibility.


The caveat - Usually activity is NAI on SDN. I easily could have been misyeeted D1/D2 for having a bad few days at work.

It's been long enough that I am comfortable voting genny today.

@miranda920 @SARdoghandler @mightyrunner7 I want the three of you to read this and then state why are you prefering to yeet Seanzie over genny

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:09 am I have reasons to suspect that she may not be a were creature but those are based on a lot of assumptions and I don't think it's valuable to put those assumptions out in thread today.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 11:58 am Miranda, you’re my kind of person! I hope you choose to play here again!

I'm not Miranda but... Who's pocketing whom now?

(Jokes aside, overall this game has had a pleasant tone, y'all are great)

@santygrass how has my play here differed from Stardeww (where we were both village and you read me correctly) or Hannibal (again, both town, but you "vibed with me")?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:59 am

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:52 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:41 am

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:39 am ......

?

How do you feel about me reversing my weak read on you based on almost nothing? Super wolfy, right?

Eh. Could have been wolfy moving off because no one else seemed to want to join you but since my name keeps coming up repeatedly I think most wolves might see me as an easy push rn. So you moving for weak reasons might actually afford you some village points

I'm debating switching to Santy but I want to ponder that to make sure it's not just because he thinks my play is lazy and annoying. Which is funny since we've played together before and I'm not playing any different than I usually do. So trying to decide if I find that wolfy overall (see easy push logic above) or if I'm leaning blindly retaliatory

You moving to Santy in this game state is likely synonymous with a vote on Genny (I mean... it is possible that Santy can become a wagon, they're name is in people's mouths, but more likely it stays on me/Genny). How does that make you feel?

I am okay flipping genny at this point because her contributing less than me and not helping to at least push thread state forward when she is here is a problem. I have reasons to suspect that she may not be a were creature but those are based on a lot of assumptions and I don't think it's valuable to put those assumptions out in thread today. If it's genny/you then at least you are here and posting so if you're scum we can catch you later with more to go on. So if me voting Santy pushes genny more, I'm cool with it

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:41 am

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 10:39 am ......

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How do you feel about me reversing my weak read on you based on almost nothing? Super wolfy, right?

Eh. Could have been wolfy moving off because no one else seemed to want to join you but since my name keeps coming up repeatedly I think most wolves might see me as an easy push rn. So you moving for weak reasons might actually afford you some village points

I'm debating switching to Santy but I want to ponder that to make sure it's not just because he thinks my play is lazy and annoying. Which is funny since we've played together before and I'm not playing any different than I usually do. So trying to decide if I find that wolfy overall (see easy push logic above) or if I'm leaning blindly retaliatory

......

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santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:23 pm [VOTE: genny] aubergine

@SARdoghandler why I am a wolf? And why you have me at your bottom but vote Seanzie?

No order within categories.

You've just felt different than how I've seen you village before. More confrontational than collaborational when looking at thread state as a whole. It's a weaker reasoning, which is why I'm not voting you today and going for Seanzie instead because I have more points than just tone for that one

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:51 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 6:21 pm
Miranda is lean town for me based on tone. I know that's weak but on SDN we have noob games where we pair new players with mentors, so I am her "mother" if you will so feel I have an inside understanding of her thought processes and I don't feel she's played enough games to accurately recreate that as a woof (yet). Last game we both played as town I defended her similarly and was correct. However, not fool proof because I'd have to go back and check to see if I've actually played a wolf game with her (terrible self referential memory). @miranda920 have I played when you woofed yet?

In your home culture, if a paired nub subsequently fools you is that considered an accomplishment for them?

Eventually, yes. It would also be a proud mother moment

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:59 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:04 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:01 pm [VOTE: Mightyrunner7] aubergine

Tell me about MR7.

Just kinda sussy.

Anything specific? I felt like he was saying village things but with a scummy tone on D1 but have let VCA with wolves slide him village again

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 5:31 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 3:20 pm Somewhere @Mayo the Mayo I think you asked for my updated reads but I can't remember if ti was you for sure or not but anyway, here. This is still leaning largely on finding the (hopefully) last werecreature and will require re-eval once we're looking for a second scum faction

Mac
Mayo

Miranda
MR7
Sloonei
Dennis

SVS
Neon
Nate

Seanzie
genny
Santy

Tell me why you think Miranda is town?

Also, iirc, didn't Nate claim broadcaster? Are you thinking that's a wolf role?

Mayo said this (which I had also missed earlier) thinking that the original Wolf NK target was someone else, someone who maybe didn't die, and not Marmot at all. Which recasts the whole thing in a different light.

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 9:23 pm 2nd to last information on last night.


I was pretty sure there was a wolf between Lawpy/Genny/Marmot. Lawpy for all of the reasons I've already shared.

I figured if I were picking who to make the NK, it would be Lawpy. He was the least suspected to that point and therefore would be the least likely to be blocked or tracked.

I redirected Lawpy night action onto Marmot

Marmot died

I asked Lawpy about what he did and he fumbled through the fruit vendor claim

He said nothing about his real role or the fact that he was acted upon last night

I already thought he was a wolf, but that pushed me over the edge

Yes Nate claimed broadcaster, I don't feel that's AI. He hasn't felt as involved as towny Nate's I've seen in the past so he's not as high on my reads as a result.

Miranda is lean town for me based on tone. I know that's weak but on SDN we have noob games where we pair new players with mentors, so I am her "mother" if you will so feel I have an inside understanding of her thought processes and I don't feel she's played enough games to accurately recreate that as a woof (yet). Last game we both played as town I defended her similarly and was correct. However, not fool proof because I'd have to go back and check to see if I've actually played a wolf game with her (terrible self referential memory). @miranda920 have I played when you woofed yet?

Re: kill choice on the Marmot/PSV night. Good to be reminded of that, thank you. If we have serious doubts about PSV being the potential Were kill then I can't clear someone from being in that faction

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:11 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 3:24 pm [VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

For now. I don't like how they dropped an unexplained vote on me D2 when two wolves were on the board and proceeded to sit there without making a case or even really addressing it on thread until today.

I still never got an explanation of what your tinfoil was.

I posted it the next day. Just hypothesizing that we may have a "wolf" faction (were-creatures) and a "mafia" faction (unknown) due to the crossover between the two sites and the fact that we play werewolf/mafia depending on the site

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

For now. I don't like how they dropped an unexplained vote on me D2 when two wolves were on the board and proceeded to sit there without making a case or even really addressing it on thread until today.

Question for the group - do we feel that Marmot or PSV was the more likely Werecreature faction kill on N2? A general discussion around this may help me potentially eliminate candidates from the were-creature pool for reasons

Somewhere @Mayo the Mayo I think you asked for my updated reads but I can't remember if ti was you for sure or not but anyway, here. This is still leaning largely on finding the (hopefully) last werecreature and will require re-eval once we're looking for a second scum faction

Mac
Mayo

Miranda
MR7
Sloonei
Dennis

SVS
Neon
Nate

Seanzie
genny
Santy

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 12:57 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:02 am Anyways, [VOTE: SARdoghandler] aubergine

I don't actually remember why I voted for them in the first place, but I feel pretty good about it.

I could probably be convinced to vote there today.

Between the two SDN low posters I feel a bit worse about genny.

[VOTE: genny] aubergine

Hey now, I've posted 62 times. For me that's not bad.

@NateTheLesser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EPsuOE ... MrBlondexX

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:35 pm Theme: Creatures! Can be werecreatures, fantastical creatures, or just everyday creatures. Something that has a creature or creatures in the song title, artist name, or lyrics of the song.

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:35 pm (No Werewolves of London please)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:55 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 5:52 pm I am feeling nervous we haven't flipped any other faction members. At least insofar as we have no way to know when we've eliminated a faction (I assume) and that we may waste time looking for additional "partners" while the other faction gets more kill time

Factions generally get announced as defeated.

Oh well that's nice. We don't usually do that on SDN haha. Sometimes there will be hints but most times it's just like "well the game isn't over... we looking for another wolf or something else?"

I wish genny would come back because her absence is NAI but I wish she'd say some things so I could form a better read



We're just going to pretend that says genny because it's the closest I could get

I am feeling nervous we haven't flipped any other faction members. At least insofar as we have no way to know when we've eliminated a faction (I assume) and that we may waste time looking for additional "partners" while the other faction gets more kill time

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:09 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:32 pm I would caution against using claims as clearing at most levels as on SDN we often have designs to combat this - mods providing fakeclaims for wolves, giving traditional town roles to wolves and vice versa, and otherwise messing with "expected" mechanics. Not saying it may not be useful, but should be interpreted with caution.

I'm also still tinfoiling that we have two separate scum factions. Since sdn plays werewolf and syndicats play mafia, I was thinking we might have wolves (were animals) and mafia in this game rather than 3p/sk as the other faction

I like your tinfoil. It would explain some of the extra night kills.

Do you have an updated reads list?

Your first one was based off of only a partial read of the game.

Any evolution in your thoughts since then?

I mean, everything is going to be based off of a partial read because I'm not going back to D1 outside of ISOs and I've read ~75% of D2. We're doing well today, I think I've read nearly everything.

Reads right now look like

Mac
Tutuu
Mayo

Miranda
MR7

SVS*
Neon*
Nate
Sloonei*
Dennis*

Seanzie*
genny
Santy

Lawpy

Stars denote players I want to take time to do iso's of because I'm ranking them more on gut feel - hence why they're mostly mid-pack so I need to sort those out more concretely. Basically slotted where it felt right on tone since I have no meta but didn't have as many obvious village points that gave me my Tutuu/Mac reads

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:28 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:57 pm Game is worryingly quiet tbh. If we have a mid game lull and the people not posting are mostly town this will go pear shaped pretty quick.

And here I was thinking wow I might actually have a chance to read all of today haha

I had the same thought, I was like "oh good only 5 pages so far". But yeah, with how much KP has been flying around we might not have as much runway as it seems if things start to go sideways.

Makes me nervous too however hopefully the game is balanced such that we can't lose based on only one or two misyeets

Unless we've just been getting really unlucky with scum not hitting other scum and behind the scenes the mods are shaking their fists

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:29 pm

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:31 pm

Spoiler: show

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:16 pm

Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:14 pm

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:08 pm

Lawpy wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:06 pm

Mayo the Mayo wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:55 pm

Then what fruit basket might you have sent to your #1 wolf read?

Fruits by their nature don’t do anything but be consumed pls.

I was also reevaluating during the night to see if i can give you a benefit of doubt from your later posts so acting on you with fruits that don’t have any function besides serving as a sort of visitor role seemed like the best bet.

How would me receiving functionless fruit give you useful information into my affiliation??

Was your master plan to ask me about the fruit, and I just happened to ask you what you did last night first?

Did your write your name on it?

Do you know what a fruit vendor is pls?

A convenient fake claim in this instance.

You said it was to reassess my affiliation.

How does sending me fruit help you reassess me?

We recently had a game here with a Mafia Fruit Vendor. Just saying.

Agreed, it wouldn’t clear him. I think it is a fake claim regardless.

The explanation didn’t really make sense. It should also be clear by now that I have a reason for asking him that question on the first place.

Sorry I may be being obtuse but fake claim in what sense? In that you didn't receive a fruit? In that you received a fruit but you don't think it was from Lawp? In that you received a fruit but you think it is a community role and not Lawp's important role? None of the above?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 6:57 pm Game is worryingly quiet tbh. If we have a mid game lull and the people not posting are mostly town this will go pear shaped pretty quick.

And here I was thinking wow I might actually have a chance to read all of today haha

I would caution against using claims as clearing at most levels as on SDN we often have designs to combat this - mods providing fakeclaims for wolves, giving traditional town roles to wolves and vice versa, and otherwise messing with "expected" mechanics. Not saying it may not be useful, but should be interpreted with caution.

I'm also still tinfoiling that we have two separate scum factions. Since sdn plays werewolf and syndicats play mafia, I was thinking we might have wolves (were animals) and mafia in this game rather than 3p/sk as the other faction

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:00 pm One thing I worry about is that the SDN players seem to more compulsively townread each other which is causing an overemphasis on Syndicators who don't do that. Yesterday and today all viable wagons have been Syndicators. SDNers are over emphasising on Syndicators and Syndicators are ignoring SDNers due to no SDNers having strong pushes onto other SDNers.

SDNers need to make more effort to find the wolves in the other SDNers or wolf SDNers are gonna skate.

SDNers.

This is a good point that I'd like to see all SDNers respond to in some way.

As long as it isn't Zenge, PSV, or Miranda, then I think any of the other SDNers are within a wolf meta currently.

Santy gets eyebrows for sussing me because he should know this is pretty stock normal play. He's seen me wolf somewhat recently and this ain't it. Genny not being at least a little here and sassy is concerning, but she is usually a low poster like I am so also could be overwhelmed. I used to have a very good track record of reading her and nothing has stood out as village genny thus far on iso. Mayo feels village for tone but he's a good, sneaky wolf.

I can't read Nate or Lawpy well (esp Lawp - I tunneled him hard last game we played both as village) so dipping out of that for now

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:18 pm

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:39 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:32 am I'm sorry but I remember the first time I played with falcon I also sussed them, took the insight of some Syndicate people that were kinda in the middle and just went into 'sure falcon is mafia' mindset ignoring other people calling them town and never really got out of there. Falcon was town there.
I think seeing the falcon wagon as PURE SDN and the peole from the same site that know him more calling them town should be a huge signal of that wagon being bad.
I know Zenge is tunneled . But I hope this is a wake-up call if you are town

@SARdoghandler @potentialsheltervet @mightyrunner7

I'm willing to redirect, but wanted to get a vote on the board at the very least.

I want to get Zenge out of his tunnel because he's an extremely valuable town player but if he's going to hyperfocus on his falcon read then I don't know how else to do that. I've seen some of the points on Marmot/Creature (read back over the past two pages or so). Can you elaborate on why you feel strongly Creature is a hit? If you've already explicitly detailed, then directing me to a post is fine but I doubt I'll be able to do a full catch up today like I did yesterday

You seem to have no read on Falcon at all yet voted them despite identifying that Zenge was tunneling because voting Falcon is the only way you know how to get Zenge out of tunnel?

Am I reading this correctly?

Yeah that about sums it up. I probably got in way over my head with this game tbh. I knew that it was probably going to be high posting compared to the typical SDN game but when we are on D2 and already over 50 pages... Well, like I said. I'm over my head. I usually have ~30-60 of dedicated time to play per day. So add that to the fact I'm unfamiliar with half the roster so can't make snap reads and

It's sub par but right now sheeping my top village reads is at least something. If ya'll want to yeet me for it, that's cool so that at least I'm not a distraction later but if you think my reads and posts would be this bad if I had a pack behind me to feed me things... Well, I got bad news

Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:52 am
Promise?

Pinky swear

Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:47 am

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:46 am I'm so village you may as well call me larger than a hamlet

Would you lie to me?

Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:45 am

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:43 am

Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:41 am

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:39 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:32 am I'm sorry but I remember the first time I played with falcon I also sussed them, took the insight of some Syndicate people that were kinda in the middle and just went into 'sure falcon is mafia' mindset ignoring other people calling them town and never really got out of there. Falcon was town there.
I think seeing the falcon wagon as PURE SDN and the peole from the same site that know him more calling them town should be a huge signal of that wagon being bad.
I know Zenge is tunneled . But I hope this is a wake-up call if you are town

@SARdoghandler @potentialsheltervet @mightyrunner7

I'm willing to redirect, but wanted to get a vote on the board at the very least.

I want to get Zenge out of his tunnel because he's an extremely valuable town player but if he's going to hyperfocus on his falcon read then I don't know how else to do that. I've seen some of the points on Marmot/Creature (read back over the past two pages or so). Can you elaborate on why you feel strongly Creature is a hit? If you've already explicitly detailed, then directing me to a post is fine but I doubt I'll be able to do a full catch up today like I did yesterday

Pls stay

But you haven't even said hi and asked me if I'm village yet

I am heartbroken

You asked me if you were village. I would have felt like I was answering your question with a question.

Are you village?

I'm so village you may as well call me larger than a hamlet

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:43 am

Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:41 am

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:39 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:32 am I'm sorry but I remember the first time I played with falcon I also sussed them, took the insight of some Syndicate people that were kinda in the middle and just went into 'sure falcon is mafia' mindset ignoring other people calling them town and never really got out of there. Falcon was town there.
I think seeing the falcon wagon as PURE SDN and the peole from the same site that know him more calling them town should be a huge signal of that wagon being bad.
I know Zenge is tunneled . But I hope this is a wake-up call if you are town

@SARdoghandler @potentialsheltervet @mightyrunner7

I'm willing to redirect, but wanted to get a vote on the board at the very least.

I want to get Zenge out of his tunnel because he's an extremely valuable town player but if he's going to hyperfocus on his falcon read then I don't know how else to do that. I've seen some of the points on Marmot/Creature (read back over the past two pages or so). Can you elaborate on why you feel strongly Creature is a hit? If you've already explicitly detailed, then directing me to a post is fine but I doubt I'll be able to do a full catch up today like I did yesterday

Pls stay

looks like you're one of those bottom energy high ego archetype of mafia players that love to tell everyone "SHUT UP AND OBEY ME" but then u also drop the emoji and be like "pls hug me and give me headpats ;-;"

This is why I will regularly sheep. Confidence and emotional sway hold a tight grip

Zenge wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:41 am

SARdoghandler wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:39 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:32 am I'm sorry but I remember the first time I played with falcon I also sussed them, took the insight of some Syndicate people that were kinda in the middle and just went into 'sure falcon is mafia' mindset ignoring other people calling them town and never really got out of there. Falcon was town there.
I think seeing the falcon wagon as PURE SDN and the peole from the same site that know him more calling them town should be a huge signal of that wagon being bad.
I know Zenge is tunneled . But I hope this is a wake-up call if you are town

@SARdoghandler @potentialsheltervet @mightyrunner7

I'm willing to redirect, but wanted to get a vote on the board at the very least.

I want to get Zenge out of his tunnel because he's an extremely valuable town player but if he's going to hyperfocus on his falcon read then I don't know how else to do that. I've seen some of the points on Marmot/Creature (read back over the past two pages or so). Can you elaborate on why you feel strongly Creature is a hit? If you've already explicitly detailed, then directing me to a post is fine but I doubt I'll be able to do a full catch up today like I did yesterday

Pls stay

But you haven't even said hi and asked me if I'm village yet

I am heartbroken

Did tutuu sub in? I went to go add them to my village lean pile but don't have them on my sheet. Who do I need to take off?

santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:32 am I'm sorry but I remember the first time I played with falcon I also sussed them, took the insight of some Syndicate people that were kinda in the middle and just went into 'sure falcon is mafia' mindset ignoring other people calling them town and never really got out of there. Falcon was town there.
I think seeing the falcon wagon as PURE SDN and the peole from the same site that know him more calling them town should be a huge signal of that wagon being bad.
I know Zenge is tunneled . But I hope this is a wake-up call if you are town

@SARdoghandler @potentialsheltervet @mightyrunner7

I'm willing to redirect, but wanted to get a vote on the board at the very least.

I want to get Zenge out of his tunnel because he's an extremely valuable town player but if he's going to hyperfocus on his falcon read then I don't know how else to do that. I've seen some of the points on Marmot/Creature (read back over the past two pages or so). Can you elaborate on why you feel strongly Creature is a hit? If you've already explicitly detailed, then directing me to a post is fine but I doubt I'll be able to do a full catch up today like I did yesterday