The Syndicate

Lock it down JJJ

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:56 pm You either vote Dennis, SVS or me.

3 choices Mayo, the longer you take the scummier it is because you are not letting town consolidate

I agree Mayo, I will never forgive you if you vote Dennis in the last 30 seconds

@Neon , you around?

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:45 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:43 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:33 pm Where they did speak up for you ?

Also, if not for me I think no one is pushing much for you as masons today.

So everyone except Neon and me would be cleared if you by that read Mighty. And you are townreading me , and Neon has a proven roleblock on Dennis and you've got tl recognize that how they reacted to Dennis at EoD and just Rbing Dennis n1 are likely villa stuff
Why is Neon cleared? I actually think 3P Neon makes sense, and would be my choice after you. Neon has chaotic energy, and unlike mayo, doesn't have any strong village credibility. Am I missing something?
You know for a fact that they are RoleBlocked, and roleblocked you.
Don't get what you mean by chaotix energy, that's Dennis FPSing in an EoD if anything LoL.

Hard shielded Miranda and just had an overall condiction in reads and care that for an 3p was not needed ?

I agree that Dennis is the most chaotic of the bunch, but he is hard cleared for me

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:45 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:43 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:33 pm Where they did speak up for you ?

Also, if not for me I think no one is pushing much for you as masons today.

So everyone except Neon and me would be cleared if you by that read Mighty. And you are townreading me , and Neon has a proven roleblock on Dennis and you've got tl recognize that how they reacted to Dennis at EoD and just Rbing Dennis n1 are likely villa stuff
Why is Neon cleared? I actually think 3P Neon makes sense, and would be my choice after you. Neon has chaotic energy, and unlike mayo, doesn't have any strong village credibility. Am I missing something?
You know for a fact that they are RoleBlocked, and roleblocked you.
Don't get what you mean by chaotix energy, that's Dennis FPSing in an EoD if anything LoL.

Hard shielded Miranda and just had an overall condiction in reads and care that for an 3p was not needed ?

Is roleblocker incompatible with 3P?

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:43 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:41 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:33 pm Where they did speak up for you ?

Also, if not for me I think no one is pushing much for you as masons today.

So everyone except Neon and me would be cleared if you by that read Mighty. And you are townreading me , and Neon has a proven roleblock on Dennis and you've got tl recognize that how they reacted to Dennis at EoD and just Rbing Dennis n1 are likely villa stuff
Do a quick ISO on SVS for today. Literally ever post is pro Dennis or pro believing the Mason reveal.

I'm not saying it's clearly, I'm just asking why a 3P would do this, when the more logical choice seems to be a push on the Masons (since the 3P faction knows we are a threat)
Who is pushing you both apart from me Mighty is what I am asking. I think you are seeing one side completely dismissing the other that goes fully against your read ?

Neon is currently pushing Dennis, and I've made clear a push on Dennis is a push on me.

I understand your Mason skeptism, but you need to understand that I know that we are being truthful, so I'm going to use that data for gamesolving

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:33 pm Where they did speak up for you ?

Also, if not for me I think no one is pushing much for you as masons today.

So everyone except Neon and me would be cleared if you by that read Mighty. And you are townreading me , and Neon has a proven roleblock on Dennis and you've got tl recognize that how they reacted to Dennis at EoD and just Rbing Dennis n1 are likely villa stuff

Why is Neon cleared? I actually think 3P Neon makes sense, and would be my choice after you. Neon has chaotic energy, and unlike mayo, doesn't have any strong village credibility. Am I missing something?

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:33 pm Where they did speak up for you ?

Also, if not for me I think no one is pushing much for you as masons today.

So everyone except Neon and me would be cleared if you by that read Mighty. And you are townreading me , and Neon has a proven roleblock on Dennis and you've got tl recognize that how they reacted to Dennis at EoD and just Rbing Dennis n1 are likely villa stuff

Do a quick ISO on SVS for today. Literally ever post is pro Dennis or pro believing the Mason reveal.

I'm not saying it's clearly, I'm just asking why a 3P would do this, when the more logical choice seems to be a push on the Masons (since the 3P faction knows we are a threat)

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:28 pm Mighty, what do you think of SVS vote?

And Seanzie / mayo?

Like, assume I am a villager here. Who am I misclearing??? Try to shed some light or direct me into other ways to help me out of the tunnel instead of going 'nope u gotta die here'

Haha, I've been trying to post my SVS thoughts for the past 30 minutes but kept getting distracted by thread, losing my work, and having to restart

My issue with the SVS wagon is she was one of the main defenders of Dennis and myself today. Why would a 3P speak up for the Masons? I feel like (assuming we have 1-2 3Ps remaining) the correct play for the 3P faction going into today would be to misyeet the Masons, especially given how much we fumbled the role reveal

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:21 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:18 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:14 pm Also, I dont think the masonry is fake now. Probs 3p Masonry ?

As I say, I do some stretchs
Here is the Mason role description from JJJ in the intro:

"mason - two masons may be confirmed as town to one another and share a behind-the-scenes chat"

I dont think Mason can be 3P by game mechanics

I meant more in the sense of you having a chat with one another since the start. But fair ig .

Mighty, you really think I'm scum here ??? Why try to kill me on survival instead lf try to solve?

Santy, take your vote off Dennis and I'll take my vote off you

Frankly, the past couple hours you have sounded significantly more likely to be town than 3P as you started using a little more reasoning. My main reason to yeet you is every theory you have assumes Dennis and I are 3P, so if you are unwilling to even entertain another reality, I'd rather flip you than anyone else tonight

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:14 pm Also, I dont think the masonry is fake now. Probs 3p Masonry ?

As I say, I do some stretchs

Here is the Mason role description from JJJ in the intro:

"mason - two masons may be confirmed as town to one another and share a behind-the-scenes chat"

I dont think Mason can be 3P by game mechanics

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 6:38 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 5:42 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:54 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:50 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:47 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:37 pm
Badvibes:
Pyxxytung - hedging for the sake of hedging in calling me not wolf but not town
Pawmarmot - not engaged. Marmot should be more engaged.
Bellosanty - for the memes but also content doesn’t thrill me
Mirandreavus - easy town read of me
Dedennis - defending pyxxy
like why wouldn't you vote pyxxy over dennis here
This is an excellent point. If Scotty is so convinced that pyxxy is scum, then a lesser vote against Dennis for defending pyxxy is not village behavior. If anything, it seems that Scotty is trying to go after low hanging fruit (the chaotic 14 year old) instead of actually solving.

Although I love the pokemon names and the animal reads, they just indicate that he has more ability to put forth toward this game than he is currently showing, which is amplified by the "shrug, I have a bad role anyway" defense.

For this reason,

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
What's your read on Dennis?
Village
I'm still so lost at why Santy thinks this post is evidence that I'm scum.

At the time, I had made a few village/scum lean reads and placed a vote on Scotty due to him voting Dennis. I then made a firm read of Dennis as village with no context or explanations.

I was afraid that I was being way too obvious in my Mason alignment, and Santy says I gave no evidence of my masonness?

That is not a mason hint in any world Mighty. Though I am looking at Dennis string/breadcrumb and hmmming'

If I have the order of ops right, you used the neighborhood ability on tuutuu n2 and they died n3 right?

Correct

mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 5:40 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:26 pm
mightyrunner7 was insanified by Creature on night 1. It's quite wifom, but I will give it a very minor point in their favour simply because the wifom leads you to "just put it on a town because people will read it as wifom anyway so there's not much value in putting it on a wolf" is a true enough statement. Particularly when MR7 is already kinda likely to be town.

First of all, thank you for coining MR7, it's fantastic shorthand for my name.

I'm going to have much more to say tomorrow as things further develop (and I get some sleep), but I just wanted to confirm what happened over the weekend

You can all see the details of my post restriction in creature's role reveal. As someone who prefers making long-form posts, being restricted to 1 sentence thesis titles was very painful. After I made my initial point and read for the day, I didn't see many opportunities to contribute to the discussion, particularly after PSV stated she couldn't make heads or tales of my messages. There were a few scenerios where I would have inserted myself, but I was fine with all three wagon options (Falcon, creature, and Marmot). Frankly, the only time I sweated was when the Dennis wagon started with 1 hour to go, but it never got enough traction to warrant discussion.
Mason hint in Bold

Highlighted meaningful phrase (thanks SVS)

How many scum remaining do we think there are? Santy is claiming 2-3, which seems really high to me.

Here are some of my recent games:
Stardew 2 - 20 players, 4 wolves, 2 neutral 3P (20% scum)
Kirby champs practice - 15 players, 3 wolves (20% scum)

We know that we have at least 6 scum in the game of 24 players (25%), does the Syndicate usually go higher than that? I understand competing 3P can make it messy, but still...

mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:54 pm
Animal Midwife wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:50 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:47 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 7:37 pm
Badvibes:
Pyxxytung - hedging for the sake of hedging in calling me not wolf but not town
Pawmarmot - not engaged. Marmot should be more engaged.
Bellosanty - for the memes but also content doesn’t thrill me
Mirandreavus - easy town read of me
Dedennis - defending pyxxy
like why wouldn't you vote pyxxy over dennis here
This is an excellent point. If Scotty is so convinced that pyxxy is scum, then a lesser vote against Dennis for defending pyxxy is not village behavior. If anything, it seems that Scotty is trying to go after low hanging fruit (the chaotic 14 year old) instead of actually solving.

Although I love the pokemon names and the animal reads, they just indicate that he has more ability to put forth toward this game than he is currently showing, which is amplified by the "shrug, I have a bad role anyway" defense.

For this reason,

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine
What's your read on Dennis?
Village

I'm still so lost at why Santy thinks this post is evidence that I'm scum.

At the time, I had made a few village/scum lean reads and placed a vote on Scotty due to him voting Dennis. I then made a firm read of Dennis as village with no context or explanations.

I was afraid that I was being way too obvious in my Mason alignment, and Santy says I gave no evidence of my masonness?

mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:26 pm
mightyrunner7 was insanified by Creature on night 1. It's quite wifom, but I will give it a very minor point in their favour simply because the wifom leads you to "just put it on a town because people will read it as wifom anyway so there's not much value in putting it on a wolf" is a true enough statement. Particularly when MR7 is already kinda likely to be town.

First of all, thank you for coining MR7, it's fantastic shorthand for my name.

I'm going to have much more to say tomorrow as things further develop (and I get some sleep), but I just wanted to confirm what happened over the weekend

You can all see the details of my post restriction in creature's role reveal. As someone who prefers making long-form posts, being restricted to 1 sentence thesis titles was very painful. After I made my initial point and read for the day, I didn't see many opportunities to contribute to the discussion, particularly after PSV stated she couldn't make heads or tales of my messages. There were a few scenerios where I would have inserted myself, but I was fine with all three wagon options (Falcon, creature, and Marmot). Frankly, the only time I sweated was when the Dennis wagon started with 1 hour to go, but it never got enough traction to warrant discussion.

Mason hint in Bold

@Sloonei
@S~V~S
@Mayo the Mayo
@SARdoghandler

Remember vote close is TONIGHT

We have to lock in a vote in the next 5 hours and unfortunately the only real discussion point has been if you all believe Dennis and myself.

Santy has made very clear that he is convinced we are scum, and I doubt that will change as long as we live.

Dennis and I are Masons, and the minute one of us gets misyeeted, the other will be NK'd and we will have just wasted a cycle for no benefit

3P Santy would love to knock off the two Masons, which is why I think he has been so stubborn in his position. I've been trying to find anyone else to put in the POE, but 3P's are so hard to find, so I don't really see another viable option for today. But I'm open to ideas

[VOTE: Santy] aubergine

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:47 am Its not only "conf-bias based on Playstyle" . I KNOW that their community role is fake based on what they said.

From every angle you look at that claim it falls apart IMO.

Where do you saw a Mason being kicked out because they were roleblocked??

WHY did they pick Tuutu in N2? If it was to use it before one lf them died... Why not use it n1? The approach doesnt make sense at all.

Those arent masons, those are two scums shielding each other. Mighty play around AM isnt masony .

TL;DR :

*2 PoE'd slots
*Claims Masons without any sort of hint of it before
*Play not pointing at it at ALL (Nothing not in the range os two partnered scum shielding, no desire to make it show)
*Claiming a Fake community role
*That community role is conveniently used in a way that doesnt make much sense so that Dennis previous "fakeclaim" can be attested to something.

For the record, Dennis was kicked out of Mason chat for all of D2

This is one of the reasons I stopped posted D2. I had a post restriction, and I lost my buddy, so I was a bit unmotivated

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 12:20 am I have a community role. I see all the community roles flipped.

There isnt a single one who can act without restriction. There isn't a way to avoid it like you are stating there

There is a community restriction, it just would have knly applied if one of us died.

I agree that a more thematic approach would have been to prevent the community role from coming into play until one of us died, and then forced the survivor to pick someone from the other site, but that's not how the role was designed

santygrass wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 12:14 am And ftr why would you even pick tuutu in N2 wowee

We were between Mac and Tuutu. Dennis preferred Tuutu because he felt they would have more fun sharing memes in Mason chat, and this was 10000% correct.

@santygrass , I literally stated the community restriction before you posted your "smoking gun"

santygrass wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 11:55 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 11:40 pm Dennis and I are Masons. Our combined community role was the ability to bring in another player to our Mason chat, but the mods wouldn't tell us any details of their alignment.

The risk was we would invite a wolf into Mason chat if we didn't pick carefully, or invite a NK'd villager into chat if we picked someone who was too obviously village (which actually happened)

That community role is fake

My assumption was the goal of the community role was for the situation where if one of us died, we would have to add someone from the other faction into the Mason chat, so that the chat would also be between SDN and Syndicate. The community role contained a restricted that if Dennis was dead, I could only pick a Syndicate member to add. This restriction didn't come up, because we decided to use it prior to any of us dying

Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 11:43 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 11:40 pm Dennis and I are Masons. Our combined community role was the ability to bring in another player to our Mason chat, but the mods wouldn't tell us any details of their alignment.

The risk was we would invite a wolf into Mason chat if we didn't pick carefully, or invite a NK'd villager into chat if we picked someone who was too obviously village (which actually happened)
Why didn’t you guys offer more vocal support of one another in the thread?

My thought process - the goal of a Mason pair is to keep their heads down as long as possible. The later in the game that we reveal our roles, the better it is for village. I made quite a few village reads of Dennis, but didn't do anything too egregious because I didn't want to have to defend a strong village read. I've never played with him, so I couldn't soul read, and his play style wasn't obviously more village than others. I only felt the need to yell that he was village to stop last night's potential misyeet

Full Disclaimer- I've never played a real game with a Mason pair (just noob chaos), so it's entirely possible that we acted contrary to conventional wisdom

Dennis and I are Masons. Our combined community role was the ability to bring in another player to our Mason chat, but the mods wouldn't tell us any details of their alignment.

The risk was we would invite a wolf into Mason chat if we didn't pick carefully, or invite a NK'd villager into chat if we picked someone who was too obviously village (which actually happened)

Don't kill Dennis, I thunderdome he's village

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 9:46 pm @mightyrunner7 did you get acted on n1?

The only notification I got N1 was that I got post restricted.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 16, 2023 11:40 pm I will provide you with certain "rules" that apply to the design of the game, and you can trust that these rules are true and unchanging. They are as follows:

~ The game contains more than two factions.

@Neon, just a quick reminder, we know for a fact that the game has at least one 3P player

Neon wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 2:20 am
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 11:21 pm [VOTE: Miranda] aubergine

I keep struggling "Noob vs Wolf", but in comparing SAR to Miranda, I gotta say Miranda looks worse.

The fact that she was the first to follow Mac on the Santy counter wagon is concerning. Other both Miranda and SAR made attempts to save genny, I find Miranda's to be more egregious.

I'll keep mulling on this, but I want to lock something in before bed
You openly admit to sheeping Mac but think it's a bad look for someone else to do it?

I also sheeped Mac tbh tbh.

Well, the difference is I know for a fact that I'm not a wolf.

I think Mac was onto something with investigating the counter wagons to the wolf yeets (which is one of the benefits to yeeting 3 wolves in a row), I just know he was incorrect with concluding that I'm the wolf

[VOTE: Miranda] aubergine

I keep struggling "Noob vs Wolf", but in comparing SAR to Miranda, I gotta say Miranda looks worse.

The fact that she was the first to follow Mac on the Santy counter wagon is concerning. Other both Miranda and SAR made attempts to save genny, I find Miranda's to be more egregious.

I'll keep mulling on this, but I want to lock something in before bed

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 11:08 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 11:07 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 10:40 pm [VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

Everyone whose name does not start with M or S must be elim'd.
This post is the main reason I took Seanzie out of my POE. I feel like wolf Seanzie would have tried to play out a misyeet attempt against myself, but now he has moved on to other (rather silly) areas. I don't see someone with 4 dead packmates do that
I also have been spewed town situationally like 4 times, but okay. If you want to ignore that?

I'm not ignoring anything, I'm just not spending much more time analyzing you when there are more attractive alternatives at the moment

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 10:40 pm [VOTE: Dennis] aubergine

Everyone whose name does not start with M or S must be elim'd.

This post is the main reason I took Seanzie out of my POE. I feel like wolf Seanzie would have tried to play out a misyeet attempt against myself, but now he has moved on to other (rather silly) areas. I don't see someone with 4 dead packmates do that

For the record:

Village - Nate, Santy, Mayo, Dennis

Looking good - SVS, Sloonie

Neutral- Neon, Seanzie

Sus - SAR, Miranda

I know this is not a very exciting read list, but its my current thoughts

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 10:28 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 9:39 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:17 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:13 pm [VOTE: MightyRunner7] aubergine
Mighty was the target of an Wolf (creature) ability n1, and even then on D2 they spent most of the time with their vote on another wolf (Falcon).

I think is unlikely (no impossible tho) for mighty to be aligned with Werecreatures
All creature did was quirk them, right? Gonna say that is not at all convicing.

Falcon would be telling people that busing/pushing him is fine in wolf chat. I'll give them a point for this, but that's about it.

They played around the Genny wagon like someone who wanted to look like weren't teamed with Genny but that didn't want Genny to flip.
You don't know me very well, but I try to be very methodical and comprehensive with my meaningful posts. Getting stuck with 1 sentence thesis statements was torture, since I couldn't actually provide any real content.

I voted for both falcon and genny at various points. It's obviously possible for a wolf to buss a packmate, but bussing multiple packmates just seems like bad strategy.

The bolded part is really the only argument to vote me that I've seen so far today. It's 100% wrong, but I certainly see the perspective. The problem is it really only takes into account the last 1 hour of yesterday and ignores the previous days I spent with genny in my POE.

The main reason I didn't initially vote for genny (despite her being in the bottom of my POE for days ) was she started actually engaging and provided a role reveal. I also was 100% sheeping Mac (since he was one of my strongest village reads) . I don't know why he setup that elaborate counter wagon trap (and sadly won't ever know), but his conclusion was wrong. Frankly, we have a few people with a ton of Village cred (mayo, Nate, and now Santy), so I think the main reason the wolves silenced Mac with his final words being "Yeet MR7" was to drive a misyeet of myself
Sorry, but if you don't vote someone when push comes to shove, it doesn't mean as much. You can't really call it "bussing" when they don't go over. Also I was pretty much out of it for D2-D3.5.f

Fair, "bussing" was too strong of a word. My fundamental point remains the same - I don't have a perfect village record, but I have more village points than others, and I feel the wolves were trying to setup a misyeet.

That being said, since you have rejoined us on D3.5, I've starting feeling a lot better about you, hence why I have not started today with a vote on you

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 10:22 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 10:05 pm I just read through SAR's ISO and putting a vote there is understandable

Town points - early vote for falcon, vote for Lawpy, general casual tone (feels odd for a wolf who has been rapidly losing packmates)
Scum points - defense of genny, lack of overall solving attempts, introduced the 3rd faction theory (which seems less and less likely as we uncover more werecreatures)

I'm not going to rule her out, but I want to investigate more optipns before going there
So SAR is POE. What's your take on miranda?

Good question. I'm trying to recreate vote timing, since the way this server handles it is a bit painful, but I'm finding her only vote on a wolf was on Lawpy when he was already doomed (she was the 8th vote) and she was the first to jump off genny onto a Santy counter wagon.

I'm still investigating her ISO, but I feel good about dropping her into the POE as well.

I just read through SAR's ISO and putting a vote there is understandable

Town points - early vote for falcon, vote for Lawpy, general casual tone (feels odd for a wolf who has been rapidly losing packmates)
Scum points - defense of genny, lack of overall solving attempts, introduced the 3rd faction theory (which seems less and less likely as we uncover more werecreatures)

I'm not going to rule her out, but I want to investigate more optipns before going there

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:17 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:13 pm [VOTE: MightyRunner7] aubergine
Mighty was the target of an Wolf (creature) ability n1, and even then on D2 they spent most of the time with their vote on another wolf (Falcon).

I think is unlikely (no impossible tho) for mighty to be aligned with Werecreatures
All creature did was quirk them, right? Gonna say that is not at all convicing.

Falcon would be telling people that busing/pushing him is fine in wolf chat. I'll give them a point for this, but that's about it.

They played around the Genny wagon like someone who wanted to look like weren't teamed with Genny but that didn't want Genny to flip.

You don't know me very well, but I try to be very methodical and comprehensive with my meaningful posts. Getting stuck with 1 sentence thesis statements was torture, since I couldn't actually provide any real content.

I voted for both falcon and genny at various points. It's obviously possible for a wolf to buss a packmate, but bussing multiple packmates just seems like bad strategy.

The bolded part is really the only argument to vote me that I've seen so far today. It's 100% wrong, but I certainly see the perspective. The problem is it really only takes into account the last 1 hour of yesterday and ignores the previous days I spent with genny in my POE.

The main reason I didn't initially vote for genny (despite her being in the bottom of my POE for days ) was she started actually engaging and provided a role reveal. I also was 100% sheeping Mac (since he was one of my strongest village reads) . I don't know why he setup that elaborate counter wagon trap (and sadly won't ever know), but his conclusion was wrong. Frankly, we have a few people with a ton of Village cred (mayo, Nate, and now Santy), so I think the main reason the wolves silenced Mac with his final words being "Yeet MR7" was to drive a misyeet of myself

[VOTE: genny] aubergine

I frankly don't have a ton of confidence in this vote, but I'll happily publicly declare that the main reason I was on Santy was to follow Mac. I'm excited to discuss more tomorrow exactly why that doesn't mean I'm scummy.

Mayo, please don't vig kill me until I have a real chance to defend myself

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:48 pm Two days in a row I've led counterwagons and the only person who bit twice was MR7.

Nate and Neon bit on the Seanzie one too. But MR7 bit both times.

I'm totally lost on how biting on counterwagons equal scummy. I was sitting on a vote that lost all traction, and decided to trust your analysis

This seems more informative than a genny flip (especially after the role reveal), and I do appreciate Mac's linkage with Falcon:

[VOTE: Santygrass] aubergine

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 12:56 am
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:12 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:26 pm
mightyrunner7 was insanified by Creature on night 1. It's quite wifom, but I will give it a very minor point in their favour simply because the wifom leads you to "just put it on a town because people will read it as wifom anyway so there's not much value in putting it on a wolf" is a true enough statement. Particularly when MR7 is already kinda likely to be town.

First of all, thank you for coining MR7, it's fantastic shorthand for my name.

I'm going to have much more to say tomorrow as things further develop (and I get some sleep), but I just wanted to confirm what happened over the weekend

You can all see the details of my post restriction in creature's role reveal. As someone who prefers making long-form posts, being restricted to 1 sentence thesis titles was very painful. After I made my initial point and read for the day, I didn't see many opportunities to contribute to the discussion, particularly after PSV stated she couldn't make heads or tales of my messages. There were a few scenerios where I would have inserted myself, but I was fine with all three wagon options (Falcon, creature, and Marmot). Frankly, the only time I sweated was when the Dennis wagon started with 1 hour to go, but it never got enough traction to warrant discussion.
Bolding this bit because it made me realize. Mighty is being super concise. Liker almost no long post in their ISO lol. One Paragraph at most and not much detailed thoughts.

Worryng.

@mightyrunner7 if you are town, I will kindly ask for you to thoughts more in the game . I need them. I want to see your Pov

Since Santy asked, here are my reads:

Town:
Mayo
Mac
Dennis

Prob Town:
Neon
Nate
Sloonie

Neutral
SAR
Santy
Miranda
SVS

Sus
genny
Seanzie

No real rankings within categories

I feel like in order to move forward with this game, we need to either:
1. Force more activity out of genny/Seanzie
2. Yeet them

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:58 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:54 pm
dyachei wrote: ↑Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:31 pm i kind of think sloon is being lightly v
Why do your reads have so many adjectives?
they always do and you always take issue with it

it's how i express myself
I could be wrong, but I don't think I've taken issue with this specific thing in the past. What game?

Is this the exchange people are using to saying that Seanzie and dyanchei/Lawpy were incompatible? This seems fairly benign and could be easily faked, especially in the context of threadsrste (giant Zenge/falcon showdown).

I agree it would be a little odd for wolf's to do this, but I still like Seanzie is top of POE.

Literally rhe only contributions have been sus against AM and sus against Zenge

People are saying Seanzie has gained village points (or at least is incompatabel with wolfs)

Can somebody please help me understand this read? Seanzie has been pretty much nonexistent since D1

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I never really had my heart in the genny yeat, I was just trying to summon her

genny is still in POE, but not the priority

Lawpy is a fine choice, but doesn't need more pressure

I think Seanzie should be tomorrow's goal if I don’t make it

miranda920 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:21 pm
mightyrunner7 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:04 pm
miranda920 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:50 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:30 am @miranda920 can you tell me about your current view? Like, who are your confident reads / try to sort people into town/scum ?

Dont think you trying to shiel/explain yourself on why you did for being pressed on time or whatever will make me feel better about you, so I think taking a different stance and try to solve/put your thought on the game will help me more

Lawpy - lean wolf
Genny - neutral, Genny is always a challenging read for me
Mayo - neutral, leaning more town
MR7 - town
Nate - neutral, unsure there are some iffy things
Santy - surprisingly you seem town to me, but you could easily good me
SAR - leans town
Dennis - neutral
Tutuu - seems townie
Mac - also seems town
Neon - feels town
SVS - neutral (also I promised I will get you those quotes when I have access to my laptop)
Seanzie - unsure, nothing has stood out to me about them
Sloonei - I’ve generally felt fine about them
Also, it seems like I'm the only unconditional town read, which I find a bit strange. I think a few others have a much better town argument than me. Is this a correct interpretation of your list?
I'm still working on reading through from the beginning of the day cycle before I place my vote, but I wanted to reply because you addressed me

I have you as lock town because I don't see a scenario where wolf!mighty gets a post restriction like you had

Reasonable, thank you

NateTheLesser wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:35 pm SDN Crossover Mini WWereWWalrus

Theme: Creatures! Can be werecreatures, fantastical creatures, or just everyday creatures. Something that has a creature or creatures in the song title, artist name, or lyrics of the song. (No Werewolves of London please)

I'll rate them based on creature-ness and personal taste, and put the results in tonight's broadcast.

To play, reply to this or ping me with a single youtube link. Put [ url ][ /url ] tags around the link (without the spaces) so it doesn't embed, or put it in a spoiler. Honor system, but try not to look at others' submissions.

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@JaggedJimmyJay
@Dubz
@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@supershorty
@dyachei
@Lawpy
@genny
@Mayo the Mayo
@mightyrunner7
@miranda920
@santygrass
@SARdoghandler
@Dennis
@DrWilgy
@tutuu
@Kate
@MacDougall
@Neon
@S~V~S
@Seanzie
@Sloonei
@Scotty
@Animal Midwife
@pyxxy
@SportPonies
@Creature
@Zenge
@falcon45ca
@Marmot
@potentialsheltervet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktvTqkn ... Y3RpdmU%3D

@genny , not sure if you are caught up on anything, but how do you feel about Lawpy?

miranda920 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 2:50 pm
santygrass wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:30 am @miranda920 can you tell me about your current view? Like, who are your confident reads / try to sort people into town/scum ?

Dont think you trying to shiel/explain yourself on why you did for being pressed on time or whatever will make me feel better about you, so I think taking a different stance and try to solve/put your thought on the game will help me more

Lawpy - lean wolf
Genny - neutral, Genny is always a challenging read for me
Mayo - neutral, leaning more town
MR7 - town
Nate - neutral, unsure there are some iffy things
Santy - surprisingly you seem town to me, but you could easily good me
SAR - leans town
Dennis - neutral
Tutuu - seems townie
Mac - also seems town
Neon - feels town
SVS - neutral (also I promised I will get you those quotes when I have access to my laptop)
Seanzie - unsure, nothing has stood out to me about them
Sloonei - I’ve generally felt fine about them

Also, it seems like I'm the only unconditional town read, which I find a bit strange. I think a few others have a much better town argument than me. Is this a correct interpretation of your list?

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