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by Camilla
Fri May 26, 2023 12:04 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:01 pm
Camilla wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:58 am
Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:55 am
Roxy wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:50 am
tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:43 pm camilla feels quite sincere to me, i'll move her to orange and roxy down to red

honestly ... yolo. like if camilla is mafia, and roxy is town,does camilla come in pushing a townie that chopped a mafia? no she doesn't

camilla can be ... no let me just rewrite the whole thing

prince j
zenon
scotty
drwilgy


alison

falcon
camilla


pyxxy
roxy


rondo


on second thought ill keep roxy in orange. i wouldnt chop her at least not right this very moment, if i had a day vig. obviously time will tell how the day phase will proceed
Here you call me townie bc I chopped a mafia. I figured you would want to explain it to me.

Remember though, I am known for *NOT* bussing my baddie teammates - ever. I like winning with the entire baddie team intact as that takes more skill.
Yeah this is ringing a bell with your meta.

God my memory sucks
This would be helpful to know earlier, tbh.

If Roxy's heavy reluctant to bussing then she's just a villager since the bus felt extremely pointless as Pyxxy was fairly viable unless it's exactly Roxy/Pyxxy, tbh.
Yeah, agreed. One day I’ll make a note on my phone of every player and their metas as I find them, I just don’t have the energy.
And my memory is rather in flux when it comes to metas, just an fyi. I tend to mix up people’s playstyles. Like you, Camilla. I remember when you fixed me that omelette a few years ago and talked to me about scarves. Oh wait, that wasn’t you- that was my step mom

See?
Sorry if I sounded rude, but it's one of my pet peeve when a critical info gets withhold in game for longer than it should lol.

I've recently had a game where people kept leaving out important shit until like 20 minutes until the EoD which pretty much caused a bunch of pointless chaos and commotion, so yeah.
by Camilla
Fri May 26, 2023 11:58 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:55 am
Roxy wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:50 am
tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:43 pm camilla feels quite sincere to me, i'll move her to orange and roxy down to red

honestly ... yolo. like if camilla is mafia, and roxy is town,does camilla come in pushing a townie that chopped a mafia? no she doesn't

camilla can be ... no let me just rewrite the whole thing

prince j
zenon
scotty
drwilgy


alison

falcon
camilla


pyxxy
roxy


rondo


on second thought ill keep roxy in orange. i wouldnt chop her at least not right this very moment, if i had a day vig. obviously time will tell how the day phase will proceed
Here you call me townie bc I chopped a mafia. I figured you would want to explain it to me.

Remember though, I am known for *NOT* bussing my baddie teammates - ever. I like winning with the entire baddie team intact as that takes more skill.
Yeah this is ringing a bell with your meta.

God my memory sucks
This would be helpful to know earlier, tbh.

If Roxy's heavy reluctant to bussing then she's just a villager since the bus felt extremely pointless as Pyxxy was fairly viable unless it's exactly Roxy/Pyxxy, tbh.
by Camilla
Fri May 26, 2023 11:40 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

[VOTE: Prince J] aubergine
by Camilla
Fri May 26, 2023 11:37 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:34 am Cherry picking Porscha’s iso:
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 3:25 am
Scotty wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:59 pm Odds any of zenon/Alison/Seanzie/tutuu are mafia?
why didn't you include wilgy..?
2nd post of the game, throws Wilgy into the mix, who had 1 post. Real good look for Wilgy.
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 4:40 am
Zenon wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 4:06 am
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 3:27 am
Zenon wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 3:05 am
Alison wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 2:25 am
Zenon wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 2:24 am Reads no
Thoughts yes

Concerns why is nobody playing
What are your thoughts?
Prince popping in to respond to that and dip is surface level wolfy but I don't really think it is especially if PJ doesn't know Tutuu and their first interaction here is that post because I might like dip and never come back if someone said that to me in my first game somewhere lol I have no clue if PJ knows tutuu and what not but I don't think he's ever played here before. To be clear I don't think Tutuu said anything egregious and knowing them it's just like Tutuu being tutuu but if I didn't have that history and that was the first post I saw i might not take it that way ya dig.

Seanzie having an early tr on me is weird and I don't like it but it's defs not AI because for like 2 months straight Sean had called me wolf day1 regardless of his alignment and incorrectly every game.

Tutuu having an early confident tr on me is... weird because I don't think tutuu has ever seen me wolf so they have nothing to compare to. Well no they hosted me as wolf but never played against it. Anyways this is fakeable for me. But tutuu does this every game with me so it's probs just tutuu indicative.

Wilgy posting opener felt weirdly stilted to me and has only done that. It's like a play on his genetic opening but it just felt...weird vibes.

Sorry this took so long I'm at work and our internet is cutting in and out tonight.
zenon don't say everything is fakeable challenge
Everything is fakeable including this post

Our friendship is not fakeable though. <3
oh no she's pocketing me this early already
Banter w/ zenon is fluff and probably AI but leaning talking with town
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 4:40 am
Zenon wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 4:06 am
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 3:31 am great game, guys. line up for comradery butt slaps
So like... wanna chat. I'm bored.
yes

what we chat about
Yeah I don’t think this is manufactured. They would have their own Scumchat for this.
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 5:09 am It took several hours of playing circus music and specialized Clown Treats (my clown is on a special diet recommended by the clown doctor due to this allergies) to properly calm him down. I'm glad my little guy is okay but the NERVE of some people. Please do not approach another clown owner on the street with your clown without asking first and checking to make sure it is okay!!! Ugh!!

Unless my clown is tutuu, in which case, please approach at any and all costs to pet her. She needs as much validation and attention as possible. You may also honk her nose, which will prompt her to wag her tell and make a beeping noise at you. The pitch of the beep will let you know how much she likes you! The higher the pitch of the beep, the more she likes you! If you're lucky, she might even perform some of the tricks I taught her, just for you. But if tutuu doesn't like you, her beeps will be deep pitched and she will growl threateningly. Don't worry, she doesn't bite; she just likes to let everyone know how she feels about them. Please back off my clown if she growls, despite her tail wagging due to the attention given. If my clown starts performing tricks for you, you are contractually obligated to watch all of them and applaud her and give her treats afterwards. I will hold you at gunpoint to ensure you treat my clown with the respect she deserves.
The appropriation of tutuu into Porscha’s clown pet fantasy indicates to me a form of attempted pocketing.
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:53 am
Roxy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:51 am
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:48 am
Roxy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:47 am
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:46 am
Roxy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:43 amMorning porscha
>"it isn't morning. they must be on an opposite schedule somewhere not in the US"
>*realizes it's almost 4am and dumb*

I need to not be awake
I live in Maryland. We are crabby in the morning.
yeah it's just normal human time to wake up lol
nice maryland crab joke :p
I'm an still very crabby in the morning, so no joke is a true story. :noble:
oh lol my apologies for the misunderstanding
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 6:54 am can I perhaps expect reads from you by day 2 then roxy
This whole exchange with Roxy is pure softball and absolutely AI tho.
“hey, I like your shirt, do you like Blink 182?”
“Yeah I can blink 182 times real fast”
“Oh, word. Sorry. I’ll leave you to it. Word”
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 5:01 pm i'm parking vote on pyxxy until he play game
Conditional vote on possible teammate.
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 5:07 pm google says I have to vote her in a mafia game as punishment so if pyxxy ever comes back today then you all know what I am doing next
Very conditional vote on possible teammate.
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:30 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:48 pm
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:46 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 7:44 pm I have not reviewed the linked game in detail but if it is true that Porscha is no longer volume polarized then it she is actually kind of scummy... the noise to signal ratio is really bad
it isn't my fault that half the people who signed up aren't playing and the other half are actually roleplaying the title of the game.
Who do you think is mafia?
I dont care if pyxxy dies the most but until wilgy / camilla / falcon make any real posts it's hard to sort the people who are posting
This is such a cop out! ‘I don’t mind pyxxy dying, but I can’t focus on half the player list because these 3 names I picked out of a hat aren’t posting.’

This post is probably one of the most enlightening in the ISO. Why Wilgy/Camilla/falcon? Why not Prince, who is equally as absent?


Based on Porscha’s iso alone:
Town:
Zenon, tutuu, Wilgy.

Most potentially aligned:
Pyxxy > Roxy > Prince > falcon/alison (her only interactions there were ‘Alison will love this’ and ‘falcon come play’)

If Tutuu is a wolf then it means that d1 we had two wolves shitposting about clown fantasies in the thread and that's a... uh, something I don't see every game, to put it mildly.
by Camilla
Fri May 26, 2023 11:18 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 11:08 am The rest of Roxy’s post have that snark that I remember being a part of her town meta.

I don’t rightly agree with her logic, but she has conviction. In some people I think this could be equated to flailing caught mafia but I am hesitant again. There could very well be mafia between tutuu/Camilla but at this point if that’s the case they’re deepwolfing.

I’m not as confident with my Roxy vote based on her pushback here. Will look at all options
Does she also act this way as mafia?

I don't think the conviction thing is that AI as it's easy for a wolf to fake conviction against their strongest pushers but this sort of sass tends to come from villagers more often than not.
by Camilla
Fri May 26, 2023 11:13 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Roxy wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:54 am
Camilla wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:46 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:43 pm camilla feels quite sincere to me, i'll move her to orange and roxy down to red

honestly ... yolo. like if camilla is mafia, and roxy is town, does camilla come in pushing a townie that chopped a mafia? no she doesn't

camilla can be ... no let me just rewrite the whole thing

prince j
zenon
scotty
drwilgy


alison

falcon
camilla


pyxxy
roxy


rondo


on second thought ill keep roxy in orange. i wouldnt chop her at least not right this very moment, if i had a day vig. obviously time will tell how the day phase will proceed
I mean, I kind of feel like there was a point where Porscha just gave up when I was re-reading EoD1 and by then that's basically when Roxy voted.

I was clearing Alison as her progression on Porscha was fairly townie being that it was "Porscha out of wolfrange" then suddenly when the threadstate wasn't hostile to Porscha she flipped. It doesn't make any sense why a wolf would flip their reads on a buddy like this.

Seanzie was also the one who was challenging TRs on Porscha and wolves don't do this to their partners but Wilgy/Roxy kind of just placed their votes right when Porscha gave up so I don't think they should be cleared over it.
read the EoD again. You missed pages obv. Nice try bc maybe others are too lazy to read. I pushed against Zenon and Tutuu up until the flip.

This right here is funny bc it proves you did not read back.
Hi Porscha's teammate.
My point was basically that your vote had poorish prgoression on Porscha rather than it being anything to do with Zenon/Tutuu and why I don't think you should be given credit for her flip.

It's not hard for a wolf to make up a sudden reason to vote their partner at the EoD which is why I'm only giving towncred to Seanzie/Alison as they were the main people behind the Porscha's elim.
by Camilla
Fri May 26, 2023 11:08 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

Roxy wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:42 am
Camilla wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:31 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:29 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 11:53 am [VOTE: Roxy] aubergine
sean being the NK over alison points to roxy mafia

(does anyone disagree that alison and sean were the top contenders for mafia NK for tonight?)

although there is also the doc dodge factor to be honest. and pr hunting. so maybe not.

but still.
I felt like Roxy's treatment of me felt kind of slimy being that the reasoning for them to wolfread me was that I wasn't doing anything despite that I was fairly clear that I wasn't posting due to IRL shit.

I did not "wolfread" you.
Roxy wrote:Camilla - does not seem as engaged as she was in the beginning of splints and I's mountainous game and her posts seem to mostly just be agreeable which always sends my eyebrow on an arch. She has to be excused until D 2 as she was sick and busy today but tbh I could vote here with zero qualms.
I said my eyebrow arched.
Where do I say I "wolfread" you?
Just bc I was willing to vote for a player who wanted a free pass to D 2 bc they were busy irl - does that equate to a "wolfread"? Nah I wanted to vote you bc I felt maybe you really did not want to play or you were too busy to play.


Stand by all of my reasoning here :noble:
I intepreted your readlist's colors as red = wolfread.

I know that I'm V so your small paragraph on me felt like you were a wolf that was trying to keep my slot open for a miselim before I could town myself up as I clearly stated that I could play D2 and that I would make my alignment obvious.

I try to not be OMGUS-y but it is what it is.
by Camilla
Fri May 26, 2023 11:03 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

DrWilgy wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 9:50 am
Scotty wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 1:55 am
DrWilgy wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 10:58 pm Probably one in Scotty, Zenon, Tutuu, Pyxxy.
Probably one in Rondo, Falcon.
Probably just Rondo because I don't see wolf Falcon.

Did Porscha have any resistance towards voting Pyxxy?

Ho well. Y'all sort it for me...

Good night.
Your VA/difference checks here without context make it look like you looked up some stuff, but you’re asking about Porscha specifically talking about pyxxy. Why?
Because I read this post below as Porscha trying to get out of voting Pyxxy by suggesting more lhf options. Figured if someone shared their thoughts regarding this, someone else would solve it for me.
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:30 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:48 pm
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:46 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 7:44 pm I have not reviewed the linked game in detail but if it is true that Porscha is no longer volume polarized then it she is actually kind of scummy... the noise to signal ratio is really bad
it isn't my fault that half the people who signed up aren't playing and the other half are actually roleplaying the title of the game.
Who do you think is mafia?
I dont care if pyxxy dies the most but until wilgy / camilla / falcon make any real posts it's hard to sort the people who are posting
That's all you get out of me for now. You all really don't know how to read the essay prompts. Well, except Pyxxy. Good job Pyxxy...

Or maybe we are apathetic to the word apathy? Perhaps that's it?
I thought that it kind of doesn't sound W/W-y?

It's a bit of a stretch but when wolves push each other they generally try to give a reasoning to make it look more unaligned while here it's just Porscha going "well, Pyxxy isn't doing nothing so let's push him."
by Camilla
Fri May 26, 2023 10:59 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

@Alison

Can you reiterate your read on Pyxxy and tell me how confident you are on him?

I liked his interactions with Porscha but at the same time individually he kind of doesn't really have anything that's villagery in isolation.
by Camilla
Fri May 26, 2023 1:03 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

-----------------
Camilla
Alison
Zenon
Scotty
tutuu


Rondo
Wilgy
J

falcon
Pyxxy

Roxy
-----------------

Roughly where I'm at, I think?

Don't necessarily think that the game's just as easy as Roxy/Pyxxy.

Pyxxy's lack of town entitlement was meh but the way Porscha/Pyxxy handled each other kind of doesn't feel W/W-ish at all.

Gonna head to bed and think about this when I wake up.
by Camilla
Fri May 26, 2023 12:53 am
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 12:32 am ~Prince J~ + Camilla - no votes [VOTE: Camilla ] aubergine
I mean, I did say that I was going to be inactive d1 due to IRL, but you do you.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 11:07 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 11:02 pm I think pyxxy and roxy fit the profile of mafia as they are trying to be towny but they arent mega obv town. Like, the bell curve, u know. Ppl who care a lot bout the game are towncore. Ppl who dont are the town potatoes. Most scum are balanced, average, in the middle
It feels very level-1-ish, but yeah.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 11:06 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 4:47 am i think scotty is like the only person I tl right now he feels so pure and fluffy
On re-read Scotty's kind of the player that feels mostly spewed from Porscha and I already had him as gut V earlier on.

Putting him in my top tier with Zenon/Alison/Tutu tbh.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 11:02 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Camilla wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 10:59 pm Actually I feel like this kind of makes Wilgy look even worse if Pyxxy's V rather than W?
Actually, nevermind.

I feel like this depends a lot on Pyxxy's role if he's W as if he's a RB'er then the last wolf would very likely just be in Roxy/Pyxxy and if he's a goon or a VT then eh.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 10:59 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 10:56 pm
DrWilgy wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 10:32 am I provide for you a Wolfy 4th vote on Porscha. Good day.
iirc there was 3 votes on porscha here - me, sean, alison. And 2 on pyxxy - neon and scotty

Hm.

Im misremembering the events. I thought that seanzie pinged wilgy to vote porscha, thats why i townread him. Did that not happen? Lemme see
Actually I feel like this kind of makes Wilgy look even worse if Pyxxy's V rather than W?

By the the time that he put his vote on Porscha she was at 3-2 and Pyxxy didn't self-pres yet.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 10:57 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 10:49 pm Pyxxy + wilgy is a possible team too (wilgy sheeping on a wolf flip) in w/w wagons

I dont think wilgy is mafia without pyxxy, just shrug sheeping on a wolf wagon and 3 posting is not a scum activity. He put porscha at 3 votes. He knows 4 votes are enough to chop someone on the syndicate. My game was a 15er and the d1 wagon had 4 votes to chop it, a lot of players here played it
Didn't Wilgy put Porscha at 4 votes since you were on her when he voted or am I misremembering?

Either way I'm kind of reluctant on Pyxxy as the way Porscha treated him didn't really feel like she was doing it in a W/W way.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 10:41 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 10:41 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 10:34 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 10:25 pm
Camilla wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 10:09 pm The more Rondo just avoids my questions the more I just want to turbo him as Porscha was doing the exact same thing when I poked her over her reaction to Alison's vote, tbh.
wolf gets caught, second wolf. Hmm i do same thing :think:
This isnt a scum defense. Its a pure unfiltered town entitlement. Its basically saying "lol @ u camilla"
This sort of "lol fuck you" and in-your-face refusal to cooperate is annoying, but frankly it's annoying in a towny sense, tbh.

I think the more towny thing that he's done is just go after Pyxxy despite that the most vocal voices in the town like me/Alison/you don't want it, but meh.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 10:09 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

The more Rondo just avoids my questions the more I just want to turbo him as Porscha was doing the exact same thing when I poked her over her reaction to Alison's vote, tbh.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 9:54 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

@RondoDimBuckle


Can you explain where you're at, read-wise?

So far I don't get how you're coming to these conclusions and it just feels like you're throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 8:44 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:42 pm there hasnt been a game where town falcon townreads me when im town, i think he's always scumread me, so it checks out with him being town here imo

or at least im not worried at all about him voting me
I don't think this is as clearing as you think as he kind of just has been hyperfocused on you and it's not really that hard to fake reads when you're only doing it to a single player in the thread.

Thing is I feel like he sounds less robotic than Summer so I kind of wouldn't go there rn.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 8:27 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:26 pm
Alison wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:24 pm Confident town group: tutuu, Prince J, pyxxy

POE: Wilgy, Falcon, Roxy, Rondo

Solving with the first group and voting in the second.
this is bad
Then who are the woofs?

And why exactly did you pivot to Pyxxy at the SoD?
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 8:25 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:21 pm
Alison wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:20 pm since one of Alice's best mafia skills is the ability to scream in all caps at people
IM LEGIT GONNA CRY LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IM CRYING
I mean, technically she's right since as if the gamestate is shit towards my faction I'd have immediately dropped everything I was doing to tryhard in the game and I'd probably have done something if I was a wolf with Porscha.

Thing is I'm trying to scream less at people, so lol.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 8:14 pm
Forum: Previous Heists
Topic: [WOLF WIN] Apathy Mafia
Replies: 2268
Views: 44068

Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:11 pm
Alison wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:09 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:22 pm
Camilla wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:19 pm Plus, needlessy bussing when there's both a Doc and a Cop alive is... lulzy.
yeah i had this thought too 5 min ago but decided no need to voice it; i dont think alison needlessly/proactively busses and leaves herself 2v9 vs cop and doc, she knows a thing or two about wolfing
The actual strongest reason I am spewed town is because Porscha had a massive copium post about my vote on her just being pressure and it'll be taken off any second now and then I leave the thread with my vote parked on her entering EOD and she dies.
LMFAO @ copium ur funny asf

also yeah actually i agree, it crossed my mind for a little yesterday that porscha saying that ur scumread on her is a reaction test is a thing wolves seem to do a lot, ive seen it, ive done it before when i was a freshly newborn pup
Tbfh, V!Porscha generally gets quite sassy when she's pushed and it's why I was questioning her about Alison's vote on her as her entire "oh Alison's just fucking around" attitude really felt unlike her.

Like, Alison/Porscha's kind of not really a possible team at this point.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 8:11 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Alison wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 8:05 pm
Camilla wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:50 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:47 pm i would like to point out that in last game porscha wolfed in here (i hosted it, the one i linked to alison earlier) - she was mafia with pyxxy and zenon, and all 3 heavily relied on bussing. they did it way too much imo

also pyxxy did some wild stuff with lack of self preservation in an attempt to bring chaos
This is kind of why I'm locktowning Zenon.

She never hard-defends a wolf-partners like Porscha like this.

Pyxxy I feel like he'd be trying to look unaligned with Porscha in this thread-state rather than just awkwardly try to shift the wagon to someone who's not a viable elim than this so I kind of would always kill Falco/Rondo/Roxy/Maybe J or Wigly before him, tbh.
This is an absurd defense. If Zenon is wolf partners with Porscha and an afk like Rondo or Wilgy what else is she supposed to do? Just let Porscha die and try to 1v9 the game?
If Zenon was someone else like you, then I'd agree with your point.

Thing is that Zenon's the kind of player that hard struggles with TMI and seeing Porscha wagoned she would likely just panic and either freeze or just bus her.

Her entire handling of Porscha d1 felt a lot more like an incorrect villager rather than a someone trying to powerwolf and I wouldn't for her just for her EoD.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 7:33 pm
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Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

Zenon wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 7:28 pm
Camilla wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:08 pm
Roxy wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 4:08 pm not much time left Vote Porscha let's see what happens in a tie.
Kind of having mixed thoughts about this vote.

The good side of it is that it's kind of pointless for Roxy to vote here being that they had Pyxxy as a good alternative due to tutuu swapping to him unless we got w/w wagons d1.

Thing is by coloring Porscha red they basically already locked her reads in and with Porscha giving up that kind of meant that they had to vote her. End vote also felt fairly late-ish which kind of supports my bussing theory.
I really really hated the vote xD
I think it's most likely similar to Ezreal's vote in Desperado where he basically felt forced to just bus HK as you were the CW and he voiced a TR on you.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 7:10 pm
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Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:50 pm
Camilla wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:46 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:39 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 12:50 am scotty + prince + zenon. gam
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:24 pm
pyxxy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:25 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 12:50 am scotty + prince + zenon. gam
.......oh.......I get it.......clever
scotty + roxy + alison also
1/5 at best imo
I'm mostly concerned with his sudden flip on Pyxxy with the reasoning to solve the wagons.

We killed Pyxxy's CW d1 and it flipped wolf so I don't get why he added Pyxxy to his worldview.

I don't think it's impossible for us to have W/W wagons d1 but I don't think it's likely from how Pyxxy/Porscha interacted with each other.
rondo is a crackhead like me and i also had the thought to resolve pyxxy so i forgive him for it. i changed my mind after talking with you and j, but he hasn't read/talked. i dont think its an unlikely stance for town!rondo to take, if he is wolf i don't think he's flailing, i think he would be playing a standard wolf game of emulating his town game. which right now is what i feel like he's doing
The difference between you/him is that you've been fairly consistent with your pyxxy wolfread while here he basically had no follow-up to him.

You had your suspicions on him since D1 and even voted him while Rondo went suspecting Scotty/Roxy/Alison to resolving Pyxxy.

There's technically a way that this could be silent progression but I'm not giving this answer to him until he tells me why he made this change.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 6:50 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 6:49 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:43 pm i have zero experience with flipless games. in terms of PR claiming/not claiming/softing plays

just expressing concern
I was originally playing it like a mountainous but the thing is with a cop flipping just town then yh. That could technically be a problem.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 6:46 pm
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Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:39 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 12:50 am scotty + prince + zenon. gam
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:24 pm
pyxxy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:25 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 12:50 am scotty + prince + zenon. gam
.......oh.......I get it.......clever
scotty + roxy + alison also
1/5 at best imo
I'm mostly concerned with his sudden flip on Pyxxy with the reasoning to solve the wagons.

We killed Pyxxy's CW d1 and it flipped wolf so I don't get why he added Pyxxy to his worldview.

I don't think it's impossible for us to have W/W wagons d1 but I don't think it's likely from how Pyxxy/Porscha interacted with each other.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 6:26 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:21 pm We kill pyxxy today. Resolve
@RondoDimBuckle

What happened to your worldview?

I don't think Pyxxy/Porscha was there so what changed?
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 6:25 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:23 pm
Camilla wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:22 pm ...I'm assuming that this game roles don't flip so Porscha could've also been either a goon or a roleblocker while Seanzie could've been either a VT or a PR, right?
oh i thought that syn was just too lazy to write them and we had a goon and vt flip
Eh, I guess I'll just assume roles don't show unless a PR flips.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 6:22 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

...I'm assuming that this game roles don't flip so Porscha could've also been either a goon or a roleblocker while Seanzie could've been either a VT or a PR, right?
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 6:19 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

~Prince J~ wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:15 pm This could entirely be equated to a BS read:

Tho I feel there could be one in Scotty/Alison.

*moves onward*
Scotty's d1 was kind of fairly gut-level town but I really doubt Alison would bus a partner like this.

I double-checked it overnight and the progression there felt more like she was a villager that underestimated Porscha's wolf range and then voted them once Porscha never got out of the shitposting phase rather than a wolf who tried bussing her.

Plus, needlessy bussing when there's both a Doc and a Cop alive is... lulzy.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 6:13 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:11 pm
Camilla wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 6:10 pm Falcon kind of feels like an apathetic villager, tbh.

Hard to explain but I don't think a wolf would just be freely shitposting like this when their buddy's being wagoned and put to elim contention.
i think so too

reinforcing to that is: falcon is an apathetic villager every game ive seen from him this year, and the one time i saw him wolf a month ago or so he hyper posted and tryharded lmao
His play in Summer was basically just tunnel PSV and then OMGUS Kate when he got pushed.

There was a higher element of dryness there while here he kind of feels less tense.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 6:10 pm
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Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

falcon45ca wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 9:23 am
pyxxy wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 12:42 am
falcon45ca wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:12 pm
pyxxy wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 8:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 12:10 pm
Zenon wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 11:54 am
falcon45ca wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 11:25 am I AM TOWN!




There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so
Falcon is wolf.

I'm changing my strategy here.
Image
.......a gif?

.......huh..............

That is indeed a GIF.





Would you have preferred a JPEG?
I.......think.......ah.......well.......maybe.......

You might..............have..............a tell

A.......scumtell

How.....................urgh.......phone posting

How..............you..............react.......ion gifs :|

Key word.............How

Uh-oh, sounds like you caught Maf. Better vote em', no?
Falcon kind of feels like an apathetic villager, tbh.

Hard to explain but I don't think a wolf would just be freely shitposting like this when their buddy's being wagoned and put to elim contention.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 6:08 pm
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Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

Roxy wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 4:08 pm not much time left Vote Porscha let's see what happens in a tie.
Kind of having mixed thoughts about this vote.

The good side of it is that it's kind of pointless for Roxy to vote here being that they had Pyxxy as a good alternative due to tutuu swapping to him unless we got w/w wagons d1.

Thing is by coloring Porscha red they basically already locked her reads in and with Porscha giving up that kind of meant that they had to vote her. End vote also felt fairly late-ish which kind of supports my bussing theory.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:56 pm
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Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 10:30 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:48 pm
Porscha wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 9:46 pm
Alison wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 7:44 pm I have not reviewed the linked game in detail but if it is true that Porscha is no longer volume polarized then it she is actually kind of scummy... the noise to signal ratio is really bad
it isn't my fault that half the people who signed up aren't playing and the other half are actually roleplaying the title of the game.
Who do you think is mafia?
I dont care if pyxxy dies the most but until wilgy / camilla / falcon make any real posts it's hard to sort the people who are posting
It kind of doesn't feel bussy how Porscha treated pyxxy.

If it was W/W I'd expect something like Porscha trying to give reasoning why pyxxy is a wolf while she here kind of just parks it as an attempt to self-pres and ditches the game.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:50 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:47 pm i would like to point out that in last game porscha wolfed in here (i hosted it, the one i linked to alison earlier) - she was mafia with pyxxy and zenon, and all 3 heavily relied on bussing. they did it way too much imo

also pyxxy did some wild stuff with lack of self preservation in an attempt to bring chaos
This is kind of why I'm locktowning Zenon.

She never hard-defends a wolf-partners like Porscha like this.

Pyxxy I feel like he'd be trying to look unaligned with Porscha in this thread-state rather than just awkwardly try to shift the wagon to someone who's not a viable elim than this so I kind of would always kill Falco/Rondo/Roxy/Maybe J or Wigly before him, tbh.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:46 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:43 pm camilla feels quite sincere to me, i'll move her to orange and roxy down to red

honestly ... yolo. like if camilla is mafia, and roxy is town, does camilla come in pushing a townie that chopped a mafia? no she doesn't

camilla can be ... no let me just rewrite the whole thing

prince j
zenon
scotty
drwilgy


alison

falcon
camilla


pyxxy
roxy


rondo


on second thought ill keep roxy in orange. i wouldnt chop her at least not right this very moment, if i had a day vig. obviously time will tell how the day phase will proceed
I mean, I kind of feel like there was a point where Porscha just gave up when I was re-reading EoD1 and by then that's basically when Roxy voted.

I was clearing Alison as her progression on Porscha was fairly townie being that it was "Porscha out of wolfrange" then suddenly when the threadstate wasn't hostile to Porscha she flipped. It doesn't make any sense why a wolf would flip their reads on a buddy like this.

Seanzie was also the one who was challenging TRs on Porscha and wolves don't do this to their partners but Wilgy/Roxy kind of just placed their votes right when Porscha gave up so I don't think they should be cleared over it.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:43 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

~Prince J~ wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:43 pm
Camilla wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:42 pm
~Prince J~ wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:41 pm Also people calling me J>Prince when I don't know them always makes me *shiver* tho I get used to it.

Considering that's my IRL name lmao.
...you know me lol.
Gotta love new sites because currently slot machining results for my brain lmao.
I'm Alice/Gwen.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:42 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

Camilla
Zenon
Alison
tutu

Scotty

J
Wilgy

falcon
pyxxy

Roxy
Rondo

Currently where I'm at, tbh.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:42 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

~Prince J~ wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:41 pm Also people calling me J>Prince when I don't know them always makes me *shiver* tho I get used to it.

Considering that's my IRL name lmao.
...you know me lol.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:39 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

J coming in and suspecting Alison of all people is kind of villagery since I don't think a wolf would have this lack of thread awareness, tbfh.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:37 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:37 pm
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Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

Roxy wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 2:48 pm ~Prince J~ - Just sad that they were name called and voted for before they had even posted. Are they bad? Idk bc they probs won't be back for anyone to try and get a feel for their rand this game.

Alison - agreed to disagree with what you state. <3

Camilla - does not seem as engaged as she was in the beginning of splints and I's mountainous game and her posts seem to mostly just be agreeable which always sends my eyebrow on an arch. She has to be excused until D 2 as she was sick and busy today but tbh I could vote here with zero qualms.

DrWilgy - where are you? You be extra quiet this game not many jokes no fun yet only 3 posts. :eye: :eye: miss your style this game c'mon and play.

falcon45ca - so far so good.

Porscha - took heat and votes but no defense really given. Seems to have basically given up. Very pingy. Could vote here with no prob.

pyxxy - Poss you tried to pocket me but you *are* often mis-elimmed. Before I can vote for you srsly I am gonna need a reason why besides using meta. But I am waiting for you to add some actual substance to the game to better gauge you.

RondoDimBuckle - not real sure about you but I have the feeling you are a bored townie. I could be wrong but I think I will wait and watch.

Scotty - your early questions to me seemed like quite a stretch as we have played more than once and you have hosted me as a player. Really pinged me but I am hoping for better from you.

Seanzie - also so far so good.

tutuu - Not understanding your game state at all this go round. You are alternating between joking and game play - normal - except it does not *feel* normal. It feels more sarcastic from you than what I am used to seeing. Digging your rainbows though not that I agree with your reads but you do seem to be trying. Are you trying in the town's best interest? That remains to be seen. Would I voteyou today? Probs not.

Zenon - Idk, idk,idk. Every since your last win as Mafia I have been awestruck by you. But then splints and I have hosted you and you were town. You game style does not change as much as others feel it does which makes it very hard for me to read you. Right now I am fence sitting where you are concerned. A few of your posts threw up red flags and others not so much. Watch/Wait? Could you really be this bored with Tutuu around to keep you company in the thread, idk. Gives me pause.
I really don't like this more on re-read, tbh.
A lot of the reasoning here feels very hedge-y such as the one and Zenon and some feel quite surface-level and I don't get a lot of the reasoning such as the one on Seanzie/Falcon.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:35 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:33 pm
Camilla wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:29 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:21 pm im looking at camilla and rondo as top mafia suspects

then tinfoil category is pyxxy and roxy

then falcon category coz its falcon

everyone else is super town
What about Wilgy?

I basically have him in my "kinda villagery" area for his last vote on Porscha but in the end it I don't think that it was as good a reason for me to towncore him as Alison/You/Seanzie/Zenon.
i had a villager read on him from his opening post of him being exhausted with his quirk

so basically he says that every game

one time he didn't - he was actual doctor. the next time he was doctor he said it, but im making the argument that wilgy attaches some ... lets say stress/anxiety/effort to his one-liner copy paste gimmick.

him expressing that he got tired of it this game, just like stopping it midway and being like "nvm" basically just reprents to me that he's a vanilla town. so in a way he "let jesus take the wheel"

i might be clearing him too easily, you are making me feel paranoid, but ...

he did sheep. which. hm.

if i try to justify my townread on wilgy im falling flat.

so lets say ... im just going with gut here. i cant provide solid logical argumetns for why wilgy is mega town

also to clarify im NOT softing a green on him
Yh, I'm fine with not voting Wilgy for today.

I don't wanna say anything more as I feel like I've already fucked up enough rn.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:32 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

@tutuu

You're more certain on Wilgy than J V, right?
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:31 pm
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Re: [D1] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:29 pm
Seanzie wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 11:53 am [VOTE: Roxy] aubergine
sean being the NK over alison points to roxy mafia

(does anyone disagree that alison and sean were the top contenders for mafia NK for tonight?)

although there is also the doc dodge factor to be honest. and pr hunting. so maybe not.

but still.
I felt like Roxy's treatment of me felt kind of slimy being that the reasoning for them to wolfread me was that I wasn't doing anything despite that I was fairly clear that I wasn't posting due to IRL shit.
by Camilla
Thu May 25, 2023 5:29 pm
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Re: [D2] Apathy Mafia

tutuu wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:21 pm im looking at camilla and rondo as top mafia suspects

then tinfoil category is pyxxy and roxy

then falcon category coz its falcon

everyone else is super town
What about Wilgy?

I basically have him in my "kinda villagery" area for his last vote on Porscha but in the end it I don't think that it was as good a reason for me to towncore him as Alison/You/Seanzie/Zenon.

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