The Syndicate

@Belzy

going 'well these guys said delta' takes their pushes completely out of context lol:
- xan decided to double down on a false godread on me, he had the same issue in the first rand
- tutuu's push on me is the same as the first rand as well and was based in paranoia they showed before

i dont see why youd just blindly go 'well delta must be mafia because the two town that got misvoted for good reason said so'

hello hello o/ good morning

@DrWilgy can you explain your progression on me here?

Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:48 pm The thread is so quiet. I am doubting everything now.

agreed D: I feel like I'm hanging around waiting for people but just

shouting into the void

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:31 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:20 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:18 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:13 pm things are too quiet again T_T

@DrWilgy
give me 2 names you'd kill here
Tutuu/Esooa

Could drop you and Ted into that mix, but I think if we hit one in Tutuu Esooa we'll be golden.
get me out of there smh
would vote tutuu, hesitant on esooa right now

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine
let's go?
Our perfect tie has been destroyed.

Sadness.

sorry friend

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:18 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 4:13 pm things are too quiet again T_T

@DrWilgy
give me 2 names you'd kill here
Tutuu/Esooa

Could drop you and Ted into that mix, but I think if we hit one in Tutuu Esooa we'll be golden.

get me out of there smh
would vote tutuu, hesitant on esooa right now

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine
let's go?

112 too if you're around could you answer that

same question for anyone around really, i dont know who is/isnt here

things are too quiet again T_T

@DrWilgy
give me 2 names you'd kill here

@DrWilgy

for you, my friend

112 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:35 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:33 pm We nearing eod2 and Falcon leads by 1 vote over everyone else but 112.

Are we not even trying to solve this game?
i think there's a degree of moodiness and low wim from pretty much everyone

yeah definitely D:

I'll be here from now until EOD at least so should be able to move things along a little

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 2:57 pm None of y'all being interested in the super tie has me sad.

I'm interested, I'm here D:

112 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:25 pm @Delta what inspired you to stop voting for me and then join the wagon i started?

wanted to hear more about the conclusions you came to & also i havent talked to falcon much if at all this game so was curious to entertain that idea. see how it plays out

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 7:41 am
Delta wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 6:25 am [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

not feeling science right now
for uh
for history!
parking on a lurker slot with no wolfy actions cuz there's a ton of v/v violence so you just have to push someplace else to avoid accountability

particularly tutuu sucking, belzy pushing tutuu, esooa thinking i can be a wolf here

same thing with what epi's doing, how tf can he ever wolf read either me or esooa is beyond comprehension

who said im parked?
its just been me for these past few hours, why would I have moved off of falcon, especially without actually hearing from them?
dont fill in the blanks for what im doing

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

not feeling science right now
for uh
for history!

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 11:34 pm Mafia:

ted
esooa

can you also talk to me about these when you're around?

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:46 pm @DrWilgy

Reads list looks something like this:
Town
112
Delta
Esooa
tedxtr
drwilgy
Belzy
tutuu
falcon
epignosis
Scum

the tedxtr/wilgy team idea didn't last.

fun
can you talk to me about your bottom 3 when youre around?

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:25 pm Is anyone going to be on in an hour? Or soon

@Delta

nope i was curled up in bed zzzzz

good morning all though o/

i mean your whole thing of me being a wolf stems off the fact that i didnt die last night

mischop works too, just kinda had your idea of 'wow delta didnt keel over and die last night so hes a wolf' in mind

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:31 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:30 pm considering i had a poe of 4 people and only 1 wolf
and half the people were going 'yeah kill delta wtf'
i dont think i was eating that nk
sorry chief
ok but ur still mafia so not my problem LOL!!!

but im town so it kinda is your problem
unless youre a wolf looking to see if you can speed up your nightkill on me
in which case ill die if you ask nicely

though wolves wouldve had to take me kicking and screaming after the wilgy vote if they did
i was ready to pop off after that

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:29 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:26 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:24 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:22 pm alr tutuu lets play true or false \o/

you acknowledged that i am a pushover in the original rand as town
true or false

you were paranoid about me eod1 last rand because i was posting well as town
true or false

like. it should be clicking that your push on me is exactly what i did last game. so i dont. quite get what your point is here if you're town??

also. lol to skilled wolf comment. ive been playing forum for 2 months T_T
i forgot what happened last rand lol it was ages ago. didnt i townread u from start to finish?

obv u are gonna be pushover as either alignemnt u arent gonna change personalities. i think ur a wolf
no?? to quote you from eod1 last game, 'if delta doesnt die tn hes a wolf'
something to that effect i think the thread got deleted
you are literally reliving last rand rn.
oh right i did say that

dont worry u were gonna die n1 that rand pat pat

considering i had a poe of 4 people and only 1 wolf
and half the people were going 'yeah kill delta wtf'
i dont think i was eating that nk
sorry chief

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:26 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:25 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:22 pm
Spoiler: show

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:20 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:18 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:17 pm The post you're calling wolfy emotion is Delta being sad he got alphabetical order wrong

Why's it a wolf to do that?

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:13 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:13 pm How is this ai in any way?
he's wolf he's faking them all

So he's faking all his emotions

So he's faking caring about alphabetical order?

You seem like you're just posting stuff to push Delta without considering it then walking it back by calling him a wolf so it's valid even if wrong
i never walked back anything

perhaps the phrase correlation not causation is relevant here

i didnt say that his grand strategy is to make that post

i was saying that his general tone seems off. because i think he's a wolf. that post was an example of it
??? your post said you scumread me for not dying when i was posting townie
and now you think my tone isnt townie?
which is it? both? i dont think it can be both
u were townie for mostly everyone d1 including me. u didnt die

now i dont think ur tone is townie

i also took part in the xan vote, was a driving part of it, xan wasnt mafia
i can post townie yeah. its because im town. im also just not a threat if im loud and wrong though. which is unfortunately in my townrange T_T

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:24 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:22 pm alr tutuu lets play true or false \o/

you acknowledged that i am a pushover in the original rand as town
true or false

you were paranoid about me eod1 last rand because i was posting well as town
true or false

like. it should be clicking that your push on me is exactly what i did last game. so i dont. quite get what your point is here if you're town??

also. lol to skilled wolf comment. ive been playing forum for 2 months T_T
i forgot what happened last rand lol it was ages ago. didnt i townread u from start to finish?

obv u are gonna be pushover as either alignemnt u arent gonna change personalities. i think ur a wolf

no?? to quote you from eod1 last game, 'if delta doesnt die tn hes a wolf'
something to that effect i think the thread got deleted
you are literally reliving last rand rn.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:22 pm
Spoiler: show

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:20 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:18 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:17 pm The post you're calling wolfy emotion is Delta being sad he got alphabetical order wrong

Why's it a wolf to do that?

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:13 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:13 pm How is this ai in any way?
he's wolf he's faking them all

So he's faking all his emotions

So he's faking caring about alphabetical order?

You seem like you're just posting stuff to push Delta without considering it then walking it back by calling him a wolf so it's valid even if wrong
i never walked back anything

perhaps the phrase correlation not causation is relevant here

i didnt say that his grand strategy is to make that post

i was saying that his general tone seems off. because i think he's a wolf. that post was an example of it

??? your post said you scumread me for not dying when i was posting townie
and now you think my tone isnt townie?
which is it? both? i dont think it can be both

alr tutuu lets play true or false \o/

you acknowledged that i am a pushover in the original rand as town
true or false

you were paranoid about me eod1 last rand because i was posting well as town
true or false

like. it should be clicking that your push on me is exactly what i did last game. so i dont. quite get what your point is here if you're town??

also. lol to skilled wolf comment. ive been playing forum for 2 months T_T

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 6:15 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:57 pm [VOTE: 112] aubergine

sorry friend, we'll see how your reads list plays out
I'm a little spooked by your entrance though
HOW IS THIS NOT A WOLF POST HELLO

@Esooa @Belzy @112

how is this not hedgy asf "i wanna push u but pls dont push me back coz i care about my self preservation coz im a manipulative wolf"

"i give u credit, look look im thinking, i swear im not evil, im just hmmmmm i wonder if ur wolff, hmmmmm, lets be calm n diplomatic bout this .... we'll see how urreads play out .... u never know!"

hows this not politician talk as seanzie coined it

???
its literally a thing of
'i think youre wolfy until a point where i can see genuine reads from you'
which is
how i play as town
and you saw that last rand too
so i dont get where this came from at all if youre town

so im lockwolf for
not dying?
sobbing

people who are sat in your townreads have explained why me dying just doesnt happen there
the emotions are NAI at worst and town indicative at best, i cant fake that for shit as a wolf and have multiple games to back that T_T
also 112's entrance is bad compared to why zenon was being pushed so just skipping over that and going 'lalala obvtown' is
a look

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:59 pm
Spoiler: show
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:34 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:33 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:23 pm my brain is currently structured at like:

belzy
drwilgy
esooa

epignosis
falcon
tedxtr

tutuu
112

with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?

also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.
Eso
Epi

Almost...
oh my god wait i hate it here FUCK
wolfy emotion. made out of plastic. fake

you mean the same emotion i have shown in the original rand too?

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:58 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:57 pm [VOTE: 112] aubergine

sorry friend, we'll see how your reads list plays out
I'm a little spooked by your entrance though
WOLF

awooo

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

sorry friend, we'll see how your reads list plays out
I'm a little spooked by your entrance though

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:44 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:42 pm like zenon:
pivoted off xan to wilgy last second
gets pushed for the weird movement
112 comes in
'yeah i wouldve voted xan too dont feel bad for it'
eek?
reading the first bunch of pages in the game there's not a lot to like xan for

no i agree with you
my issue lies with the fact that one of the main pushes on your slot was the fact they pivoted off of xan last second
so the fact you come in reaffirming that you wouldve voted him is a little worrying to me

like zenon:
pivoted off xan to wilgy last second
gets pushed for the weird movement
112 comes in
'yeah i wouldve voted xan too dont feel bad for it'
eek?

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:15 pm There's a lot of fluff within the first few pages of the thread but I agree with your early falcon sus @DrWilgy

Reading back, falc looks like he has a lot of trouble fitting in early, and you can sort of tell he was around the thread but not speaking much. He wrote the first post in the game but can't keep pace with it.

Also, Delta looks highly town based on his early posts/interactions.

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:20 pm btw i would've eliminated xan too so nobody should feel bad

i really
really dislike this chain of messages
trying to play down the yeet.
like yah xan had it coming. fuck around and find out.
but playing down the vote your slot pivoted off of & was being suspected for pivoting off of
feels bad
this isnt making sense word wise someone please get what i mean

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:38 pm
Spoiler: show
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:34 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:33 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:23 pm my brain is currently structured at like:

belzy
drwilgy
esooa

epignosis
falcon
tedxtr

tutuu
112

with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?

also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.
Eso
Epi

Almost...
oh my god wait i hate it here FUCK

Perhaps your most painful moment of the game.

oh no theres been some painful moments
but its up there

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:33 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:23 pm my brain is currently structured at like:

belzy
drwilgy
esooa

epignosis
falcon
tedxtr

tutuu
112

with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?

also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.
Eso
Epi

Almost...

oh my god wait i hate it here FUCK

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:24 pm @112 sorry if I missed it
which would be ironic given my last message but weh
did you post your current reads so far? or are you still catching up?

fuck thats still not a mention
@112 womp

@112 sorry if I missed it
which would be ironic given my last message but weh
did you post your current reads so far? or are you still catching up?

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:31 pm
Spoiler: show
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:13 pm
Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 12:31 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:48 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:26 am
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 9:38 am
Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 8:40 am

Once Xan's lynch was set in stones, she moved her vote from Xan to Wilg without explanation, as well not engaging with the thread eod1. She prolly thinks Xan's lynched, I move elsewhere, and stay quiet. Most of d1 her vote was parked on Xan, which makes it all very fishy. Also, why not Zenon here?
oh yikes, i didnt pay too much attention to voting shifts tbh

plus i wont lie i did not do my homework overnight T_T but tyty
If someone like Zenon looka similar as any AI. You gotta take a look at voting patterns and eod's.
yeah I get you
ill look into it in a bit and give my own thoughts since theres a few who have talked about zenon here
I am not the only one who felt wary of Zenon d1, and sometimes a gut can sense something the eyes cannot see yet. I look forward to your thoughts; how you would see Zenon's play so far.
aye aye captain o7
though im gonna delay this slightly and let 112 post a little
speaking of, hello hello friend o/
could you give me a rundown of how you play as town and wolf? even if just a sentence or two
It depends on many factors how I play. You better ask Seanzie or Zenon. They played with me before.

this question was meant for 112 but i shouldve been more clear

also
smh references for gameplay

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 3:29 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:40 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:36 pm ISO w/Notes

Spoiler: show
Belzy:
d1
418 - disapproves of Xan's response to Falcon
420 - shouts wolf at Xan without real interaction
425 - Calls Xan wolf for what was a joke about Zenon
452 - Theorizes a Xan/Sean team
516 - shouts wolf at Zenon
552 - Theorizes a Xan/Epi team
630/633 - Finds Tutuu's actions wolfy
635 - Theorizes a Xan/Tutuu team
741 - Tutuu wolf because reads are not developing in spite of presence
843 - Evaluates Wilg

d2
911 - Zenon wolf call
912 - Tutuu eod1 towny
995 - lynch order list
Belzy's most likely town. I do think that the suspicion on Xan was not iterated as much as I'd like to be comfortable saying it came from a town, BUT the work Belzy did looking to alternate players to either vote or align with the Xan read seems like it's coming from a towny place.

I am curious about the current Tutuu read as Tutuu was called towny in 912, but was put 2nd to the top of the yeetables in 995.
part of why tutuu was called towny by belzy was due to their eod iirc?
wondering what you think of this since im kinda iffy on tutuu's eod myself looking back
not a full iso to do its just a few quotes
Could you elaborate on tutuu's eod1?

i did a few posts after, unless you want me to talk about it more?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:51 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:48 pm can you also @ me
I wont miss them but I'll be back in a bit & it gives me something to look into once I'm back
Damn, I feel called out.

sorry wilgy

can you also @ me
I wont miss them but I'll be back in a bit & it gives me something to look into once I'm back

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:45 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:38 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:38 pm Delta ISO would be another 4 page effort. I'm good for now.

NEXT
boooo
its 90% shitposting anyway its not that hard
No... Too many braincells. Would rather call Delta friend and take nap.

you know what
good plan

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:42 pmwait is it lylo?

i hope not T_T

i doubt it though, its d2

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:02 pm
Xanjori wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:02 pm I really dont think Im being bussed
oh

RERAND

RERAND

RERAND

TAKE IT BACK

REWIND

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:08 pm if xan town:

1 wolf between woogerz/ted
2nd wolf in sean/falcon

pls dont ask me why im honestly just saying random names. well not rly but. just wingin it

the first quote from xan i took as an admission of guilt. confbias goes hard. but to immediately jump to 'oh omg he was town rerand it' & the whole 'yeahh lets rerand if hes town' leans slightly performative imo?
and then later on immediately jumping to starting to solve on v!xan preflip off of that one quote felt extreme.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:36 pm ISO w/Notes

Spoiler: show
Belzy:
d1
418 - disapproves of Xan's response to Falcon
420 - shouts wolf at Xan without real interaction
425 - Calls Xan wolf for what was a joke about Zenon
452 - Theorizes a Xan/Sean team
516 - shouts wolf at Zenon
552 - Theorizes a Xan/Epi team
630/633 - Finds Tutuu's actions wolfy
635 - Theorizes a Xan/Tutuu team
741 - Tutuu wolf because reads are not developing in spite of presence
843 - Evaluates Wilg

d2
911 - Zenon wolf call
912 - Tutuu eod1 towny
995 - lynch order list
Belzy's most likely town. I do think that the suspicion on Xan was not iterated as much as I'd like to be comfortable saying it came from a town, BUT the work Belzy did looking to alternate players to either vote or align with the Xan read seems like it's coming from a towny place.

I am curious about the current Tutuu read as Tutuu was called towny in 912, but was put 2nd to the top of the yeetables in 995.

part of why tutuu was called towny by belzy was due to their eod iirc?
wondering what you think of this since im kinda iffy on tutuu's eod myself looking back
not a full iso to do its just a few quotes

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:38 pm Delta ISO would be another 4 page effort. I'm good for now.

NEXT

boooo
its 90% shitposting anyway its not that hard

it quite literally got me killed in champs and ill never let the wolves live it down

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:33 pm Delta's somewhat of a mystery. There's a lot of personality in his posts and I'm not sure if it's genuine or an intentional effort to seem cute/non-intimidating.

this made me laugh thank you
me being cute is NAI, im just a little guy, its attributed to both my town game and my wolf game
though i am a little more assertive as a wolf? at least imo

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:31 pm
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Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:28 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:25 pm
Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jun 26, 2023 2:23 pm my brain is currently structured at like:

belzy
drwilgy
esooa

epignosis
falcon
tedxtr

tutuu
112

with tutuu/112 being more yellowish/hazy than actual scumreads, struggling to find something that feels right to me right now. those lower down are more 'i want to hear more from them' than 'raaah wolf'. same for the tier above them. though ill speak to anyone really i feel like ive stumbled into today with no real gameplan.
i can explain any of these if anyone is interested?

also. i realise ive managed to have a completely alphabetical reads list. nice.
How am I possibly so high up on this list?
i think someone mentioned earlier that the kill being off your wagon meant that its probably to keep your wagon alive? and i want to put some trust into that because i have. 0 fucking clue how nka works :^)

the tiers are alphabetical rather than ranked, ideally out of you/belzy/esooa youd be the lower of the three because i have 0 semblance of your reads right now and trying to get your read on falcon d1 was like pulling teeth T_T

i wanted my neat looking reads list
I mean, was it really like pulling teeth? I just wasn't around lol.

Falcon was very underwhelming early d1 and avoided me calling them out, which I normally attribute to their w gameplan.

However, their later posts put them back in their townrange.

to me yeah kinda
but i get you on not being around so no worries

can you give me your current scumreads?

though speaking of your reads

..what are your reads wilgy?

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