The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:00 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:24 pm at least we had our full game together this time wilgy

I wouldn't have had it any other way.

One day when I'm wolf, I look forward to you going out of your way to protect me :-)

i'll shield you in the game 1 reunion
they're vicious wilgy it's dangerous

at least we had our full game together this time wilgy

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:49 pm Appreciate Delta- very fun teammate to have. Five stars. Would recommend.

<3

likewise, was lovely having you as a teammate Epi!!

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:39 pmGG everyone.

gg wilgy!! sorry about your perfect tie :,( maybe one day

Esooa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 7:22 pm GG @Delta you posted well

I enjoyed you acting like you were who I wanted leading lylo and using me saying to Hydra to give it more credit, devilish

I meant what I said about your town game irrespective of if this was it

hehe :3

ggs esooa <3

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 6:01 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:56 pm

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:49 pm I missed eod3. Did it rand between Delta and Eso?

randed between me, falcon and esooa

Wow. A 3 way rand. Why did that happen. I was occupied irl. I saw afterwards Eso asking me to vote for Falcon. My vote was still on you, but I guess you got away.

112 didnt make it to EOD so

Belzy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:49 pm I missed eod3. Did it rand between Delta and Eso?

randed between me, falcon and esooa

kjbhaduijbwiajdhwb im free

i want my town rand back T_T

ggs guys!

but then why does wilgy just sheep there
i guess he said he thought me/epi were wolves so it works?
but he makes no effort to try convince falcon of w!me he just goes with it which puts them in the same spot vote wise

i dont get this
where am i wrong in saying falcon/wilgy wolves
am i wrong in saying that theyre wolves

i feel like going 'epi & 112 wolves' lacks a lot of
permanence regarding past days?
i think that's the best way to put it
its something i tend to fall into as a wolf as well so might be confbiasing hard into this read but the push here feels very flat & flail-y
less about what has happened over the course of the game, pushing something on short term reasons to avoid looking at whats happened long term that might weaken their reasoning

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:13 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:02 pm @112

what do you make of this?

i think he's up against the ropes and is flailing

big words for someone still voting me >:T

and yet you vote epi here?

and why is wilgy never in contention for you?

afhuijoffj

this feels
too obvious
whats the catch

@112

what do you make of this?

okok
hold

@falcon45ca what changed? why do you think im town now?

that was
not the entrance i was expecting?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:48 pm Wilgy is town, Delta is town



112 is Maf, Epi is Maf.

respectfully what the fuck

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:38 pm i mean, it's lylo yes, but it's quite a gambit, particularly when three votes were already on falcon before wilgy stopped by the thread. i think a wolf busses there.

but wouldn't it be really blatant if he did?

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 2:25 pm well, i'l be around until eod. if falcon doesn't post, i'll probably switch my vote back. if he does, we'll see.

delta, i'm not sure saving a wolf-partner falc is the best play for wilgy if he's mafia.

isnt he kinda forced to though?
say he lets falcon go over despite having his townread on him prior, he goes into a f3 where
1.) that read was wrong and
2.) he allowed falcon to die anyway

wilgy's votes yesterday as well as his stance on falcon means he kinda has to save falcon over folding and letting falcon die

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:37 pm falcon:

LMAO that's brilliant

112 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:35 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:47 am So unless one of you three are bussing there's no way there's a W falcon. Bussing rn doesn't make sense, so it's a matter of figuring out which of you is just incorrect.

@Epignosis how familiar are you with Falcon's meta while going through these lists?

it could be delta, but i'm not sure why you think bussing can't happen in a f5.

some of his posts have rubbed me the wrong way this round. it feels like he's gearing up for f3 and trying to pre-emptively sink me. it may be that he's expecting a wolf flip with falcon and is then going to bring up that i forgot to vote for him again in f3--because he's mentioned it quite a bit this round.

not at all? assuming falcon dies here & you dont just yeet me into townloss, i assume i could just die tonight considering im the counterwagon to falcon.

for falcon to be town, it has to be you/epi, because why would w!drwilgy split the falcon wagon over parking there. so, if you are town, you should realise that falcon isnt town here. falcon/epi could in theory work, but if so its over because epi just flips over to me eod. falcon/wilgy feels far more likely because playing on the doubt you have on me means wilgy can a least get the vote to rand here, if not push for falcon to turn up and set my vote at 3.

i mentioned your lack of vote yesterday because it struck me as odd, as it did esooa who mentioned it before dying. that hasnt been the only thing ive talked about here though & as it currently stands its very unlikely i vote anyone other than wilgy/falcon, especially with how wilgy has played today

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:33 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:07 pm @Epignosis

what do you think of falcon here then?
you say falcon can be a wolf with both me and wilgy but dont touch on falcon at all here
especially considering you voted with them yesterday, it's a bit weird you're fine to slot them as a partner to both me/wilgy but not actually look into that?
you should think theyre just scum but you make no effort to case or push them at all

I was going in alphabetical order (something I seem to recall you having a struggle with).

By the time I got to where I ended, it was one in the morning.

Sleep > reading through Falcon's posts.

T_T
why'd you have to remind me of the first bit
the rest is fair enough though

speaking of:

[VOTE: FALCON45CA] aubergine

could be epi/falcon, could be wilgy/falcon like i thought before

weh

112 probably fine in a w!falcon world all things considered
kinda iffy on the lack of vote yesterday but i dont see a reason not to believe the reasoning behind it

@Epignosis

what do you think of falcon here then?
you say falcon can be a wolf with both me and wilgy but dont touch on falcon at all here
especially considering you voted with them yesterday, it's a bit weird you're fine to slot them as a partner to both me/wilgy but not actually look into that?
you should think theyre just scum but you make no effort to case or push them at all

112 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 02, 2023 11:15 am the fun thing about mafia is it could be anybody. this is also the unfun thing about mafia.

i think i'm going to roll with epi as my chosen townread.

delta/wilgy/falc therefore has two wolves in it. this should be solvable.

eh
can live with that i guess?

dont know how i feel about only 3 of us being here but thats probably NAI so shrug

fingersplints wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:40 pm Hey guys to answer some questions we have been receiving

Votes are still changeable. Because of that, there is no hammer.

oh that makes life 10x easier thank you

im out for the night probably so ill just backread if/when everyone else pops up

@Esooa ill take you up on the hydra sometime
gg, lovely playing with you again, i wont let you down o7

also yeah i am gonna be pushy about this
on my own site fx situations are the one thing i have nailed
& especially considering the track record about killing me, voting me is quite literally game losing at this point and i want to steer away from that
gonna have to bear with me on it \o/ i promise if youre town itll pay off

alr questions for everyone is like
give me a ranked list of names from town to scum
i dont want votes yet, will angle for votes to begin around the halfway point
i also have an idea of who i want to vote first but its a case of waiting for people to pop up

esooas legacy was to have epi cross
my legacy was to have falcon/wilgy cross
so its like
i want to somehow make sure both happen in some way
because both of us were kinda ready to die and let the other lead this f5

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:16 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:13 pm

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:12 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:07 pm its all well and good being right but the falcon vote was there
it was viable
and you had your two top town at risk
what happened there chief

lol ok

i had a few beers and lost track of the clock

i cant even be mad at that tbh
tell me what your thoughts are here though
because im still kinda
tinfoiling you/falcon off of it

first thoughts are that you're being pushy and gung-ho this SoD

otherwise, i still suspect falcon and wilgy has fallen off quite a bit

its mainly because like
esooa got fucked over by that rand and i hate it
i dont want her effort to be wasted & i dont want me being alive to be game losing either

you didnt vote at all in the end, i dont get why you pivoted off falcon assuming you did initially vote him
feels weird to have that read for 2 days but it disappears when it matters

112 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:12 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:07 pm its all well and good being right but the falcon vote was there
it was viable
and you had your two top town at risk
what happened there chief

lol ok

i had a few beers and lost track of the clock

i cant even be mad at that tbh
tell me what your thoughts are here though
because im still kinda
tinfoiling you/falcon off of it

its all well and good being right but the falcon vote was there
it was viable
and you had your two top town at risk
what happened there chief

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:05 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:01 am

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:56 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 12:42 am Wilgy?

I don't think he's done anything great, and idk if I should be convinced by his solving?

But his reasons seem fine enough, his justifications

i'm also paranoid of wilgy

wasn't particularly satisfied by his comment on falc's d1, too

Belzy?

Belzy I can see being a wolf. I'd rank her just above falcon.

I'm thinking something like this right now:

Town
Delta
esooa
Epi
Wilgy
Belzy
falc
Mafia

first question!!

if you thought falcon was mafia and me/esooa were town
why did you let it rand with both me/esooa at risk of dying over voting falcon?

alright.

lets get this started yeah?

i have a few questions for all of you about that eod
considering everyone was relatively comfortable leaving v/v wagons with me/esooa
we are not just shrugyeeting into a loss here.

let it rand o7
just keep in mind what i said if i go here

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:31 pm I feel like I should be poe from you and 112 but I shouldn't complain

i mean im slightly paranoid of your defense on me
but people advocating to kill me have 0 progression on me at all and are just quoting people who are dead and cannot reeval their read on me
both you and 112 are defending me over playing into that so i want to think youre both town for it
otherwise youre making your jobs exceedingly difficult

woofers:

DRWILGY. NOT EVEN A REAL DOCTOR. I SHOULDVE SEEN THE SIGNS
- spent earlier days trying to pocket me, outright going 'im not gonna iso you but youre town so its ok' and then later days has a sudden flip on my alignment, particularly today where suddenly a read materialises on me from seemingly nowhere, hinted at it somewhat yesterday but never touches on it. kinda just set up to try speedwagon me here and hope for the best
- the increase in wim. stupidly thought this was town indicative but yeah in hindsight that was. not the best idea lol. went from 'idc if you guys chop me ill do my own shit' to suddenly 10x the posting & whatever d1
- weird takes on falcon when he realised that town was just eating each other with the thread revolving around me. tried pushing for reads on falcon all game and they've been fairly vague & open to being walked back

FALCON. I DUNNO FALCONS KILL PEOPLE PROBABLY. :^)
- hasnt interacted with me all game but suddenly willing to blind sheep a vote on me when my death brings wolves to lylo
- has me/esooa wolves which as aforementioned probably just wins wolves the game & is a good gamestate for them
- weird comments in regards to 112's slot earlier on back when zenon was around that never got followed up
- 112 im assuming has more experience w them? and finds them scum so weh

if i die here, do not touch esooa. have falcon/wilgy cross. its something im willing to bet on. if i got hard pocketed by esooa/112? lol me but its whatever

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:14 pm You should just say what's important to you

alr bet ill focus on my scumreads here
leave a legacy or something

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 4:12 pm That's also not reads on players lol

That's names in some kinda order

You have to have reasons for why each person is there or it's gibberish to me

kinda what im working on here in the background while waiting on people to pop up
is there any particular one you want first or am i alright to just work on a full list

or maybe i'll shout to the void instead D:

its alright
i'll just waddle around and try solve what i can in this last hour
try come to something that feels comfortable

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:55 pm Random world building doesn't help me as much as your actual reads on players

based on that world building my reads are kinda structured

so like

TOWN

112
esooa
epi
belzy
drwilgy
falcon

WOLVES

there's the potential that there's a wolf in each group i gave? but that's something i want to tackle after a wolf flip. is there anyone in particular you want a read on?

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:32 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:27 am kinda splits the game in half in doing so where like:

former world is falcon/wilgy/belzy wolves
latter world is esooa/112/epi wolves

and im just the little guy being thrown around in between

How is epi me a thing lol

i mean if its 2 wolves it shouldnt be, could be like 112/epi or you/112
if its 3 well then fuck me i am just lamb to the slaughter rn

[VOTE: FALCON] aubergine

i think it makes most sense for votes to be split on v!me and v!esooa in a w!falcon world since its either kill me off -> push esooa as tmiing me or kill esooa off -> push me with less resistance
thats how im reading the current gamestate i think
so esooa probably town and we're in a world of the former where wolves need me to drop off to win

..or not
D:
get back to me when youre around

i dont like falcon's approach to me considering they've kinda avoided commenting on me all game
& if so i think wilgy's d2 sudden shift on falcon looks kinda weird in hindsight
maybe theres potential there?
especially given wilgy was fine to just call me town prior but comes into today acting like he's had a read on me this whole game

@Esooa what's your take on falcon right now?

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 5:27 amWell decide imo

that's what i want to do within the next few hours hopefully?
will just look over the approaches taken to me specifically and figure out what feels more forced

kinda splits the game in half in doing so where like:

former world is falcon/wilgy/belzy wolves
latter world is esooa/112/epi wolves

and im just the little guy being thrown around in between

i'm kinda split regarding the defense on me here
like
are there wolves trying to mischop me off of xan/tutuu to secure an easy LYLO or is it wolves bringing me along to LYLO to secure an easy win off town paranoia
it's weird. could be a mix? i dunno. the general treatment around my slot is odd though

112 wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:07 am

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:02 am why town on Delta?

i'll re-evaluate but i like his posts and bought his AtE (i think he'd genuinely struggle to highpost this much as a wolf when he's only been playing forum mafia for two months)

there's a little too much o/ and T_T for my liking but if that's the only reason i'd scumread him i probably shouldn't be scumreading him

highposting is entirely NAI for me
AtE though I just cannot pull off in my wolf games, I'm slightly too detached from them lol
and I will o/ to my heart's content thank you very much