The Syndicate

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:24 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:22 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:22 pm Delta is claiming a role that is literally 20 lines long at this point. Like a whole paragraph of text.

damn its almost like a 3p isnt gonna be a simple role especially in a game with 2 separate threads

All other roles are vanilla. Mason, Watcher, Jailkeeper. You're evil. God I wanna vig you. JUST DIE

STOP RESISTING. DIE

STOP. RESISTING. DIE.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:22 pm Delta is claiming a role that is literally 20 lines long at this point. Like a whole paragraph of text.

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:20 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:16 pm Thoughts from WWA:

tutuu, WWA believes that Delta really is 3p, and doubts that the mafia busdriver had access to both threads. WWA doesn't believe the wolves have a common chat, but do know the whole team's names.

I don't think Delta has access to the other thread. Why wouldn't he tell us TSP's role? He either didn't know it, or he purposefully chose to withhold info from town, despite pleading to survive. In either case, is it not mechanically confirmed he is trying to hurt town (even if he's just a 3p)?

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:12 pm Why do you not want to disclose your "random" name?

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:12 pm @Scotty @DarlingMonroe @Cape90 @Lime Coke @Alexy

Please stay on Delta I'm begging, him flipping Mafia Bus Driver who transported Scotty N1 can explain the issues at hand

Vote delta for a free win ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Vote delta to stop global warming (ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง

Vote delta to cure racism (✿◠‿◠)

Vote delta to stop gender pay gap ᕦ(ò_óˇ)

Vote delta to cure cancer 凸( •̀_•́ )凸

Vote delta for a second season of Firefly (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:07 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:07 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:06 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:04 pm im going to be so sad if its actually scotty/alexy

Not me!

yeah you'll get a win

I'll get a 'lol 3p' if I'm lucky

Who did you predict today?

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:06 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:04 pm im going to be so sad if its actually scotty/alexy

Not me!

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:02 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:00 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:27 pm Ok, so the wolves are Scotty and Alexy.

I am a 2-shot protector/blocker. I block AND protect a target twice in the game.

When Scotty first said he would protect Jack, I (like probably most) figured it was just to throw a doubt at the Wolves. Y'know. Make 'em question. I responded that I'd protect him as well, to get in on it. As one does. Thought nothing of it.

Then somewhere along the line recently, it became more than a sassyclaim... Scotty really was the doctor! Huh. And then Alexy came in with the Watchery info that Scotty targeted PSV on night 1, and Scotty confirmed it!

Great!

Then I was like... hmmm. Like, I'M the doctor, really... jailkeeper I guess is the actual term, but two real protectors, in the same half of the game?

And THEN I was like, wait a sec - I BLOCKED Scotty on Night 1!

So Alexy is lying about Watching Scotty target PSV, and Scotty is lying when he confirmed it!

man you're literally waving the false hope of survival in my face I hope you know that ;_;

Guess you wanna be voting Scotty then!

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:27 pm Ok, so the wolves are Scotty and Alexy.

I am a 2-shot protector/blocker. I block AND protect a target twice in the game.

When Scotty first said he would protect Jack, I (like probably most) figured it was just to throw a doubt at the Wolves. Y'know. Make 'em question. I responded that I'd protect him as well, to get in on it. As one does. Thought nothing of it.

Then somewhere along the line recently, it became more than a sassyclaim... Scotty really was the doctor! Huh. And then Alexy came in with the Watchery info that Scotty targeted PSV on night 1, and Scotty confirmed it!

Great!

Then I was like... hmmm. Like, I'M the doctor, really... jailkeeper I guess is the actual term, but two real protectors, in the same half of the game?

And THEN I was like, wait a sec - I BLOCKED Scotty on Night 1!

So Alexy is lying about Watching Scotty target PSV, and Scotty is lying when he confirmed it!

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:59 pm But DELTA! Forget that stuff, do you like my thing?!

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:57 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:57 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:53 pm Delta is 100% anti-town

THE LITTLE FUCKER DIDN'T TELL US TSP WAS BUS DRIVER

I CAN ONLY DISCLOSE ALIGNMENTS ;O;

How

Convenient

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:53 pm Delta is 100% anti-town

THE LITTLE FUCKER DIDN'T TELL US TSP WAS BUS DRIVER

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:18 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:39 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:05 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:04 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:03 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:00 pm I make a guess for each thread before daystart

3 exact guesses, win
5 alignment guesses right in 6, win
3 consecutive player guesses, win

I guess this makes more sense to give you more outs.

So theoretically, you could have won at the end of our d2 if you had guessed everything correctly by that point?

Do you fly away into the trees if you win or

yep, if I win I leave early
cant solo win

Oh, I thought you said you’d be a survivor if you don’t fulfill your other

I can keep guessing so that wincon is always there, it's just the overarching one is 'if youre alive by the end of it all, win'

Maybe I misunderstood then. "Don't fulfill wincon" -> "I can keep guessing". I parsed this as you can win after you die

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:27 pm Delta claimed he has two possible wincons - survive and three different types of correct guesses on who gets chopped in both threads. He claimed that even if he dies, he can still win with the second wincon. If Delta was truthful he has no reason to not claim instantly, and immediately start giving us info on the other thresd. He loses nothing, he doesn't even need to be alive as claimed by him. Even if he is 3p he is lying about something, his play doesn't make sense for it to be truthful

Cape90 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:54 am [VOTE: Delta] aubergine

I didn't wanna vote in case majority but if Delta is actually survival 3p, they kinda fumbled their hand by not immediately claiming

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:14 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:04 pm Why is Alexy town?

Did JackofHearts claim a green there?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:54 pm Is there any info I should be knowing currently?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:51 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:50 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:38 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:35 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:19 pm Sorry guys I have been super busy the last day and a half I'm seeing Delta being wagoned though so that's interesting.

sap

Hi there.

o/ how are you?

I'm alright, kinda tired, how are you?

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:38 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:35 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:19 pm Sorry guys I have been super busy the last day and a half I'm seeing Delta being wagoned though so that's interesting.

sap

Hi there.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:19 pm Sorry guys I have been super busy the last day and a half I'm seeing Delta being wagoned though so that's interesting.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:08 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:04 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:00 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:52 pm FWIW, I don't know if I've ever SEEN Delta play a game like this before. It's not like W Delta nor like T Delta, it's very middling and I can half see where Delta was playing to a neutral. HOWEVER, that's probably easily fakable.

So still, it remains kinda a

It's rough because its like

As town I'm loud because I try to get myself nightkilled & as a wolf I'm loud to gain thread control

Over here was very quiet & I resolved to just. Keeping quiet & playing nice since no one really made themselves a threat to the wolves anyway x_X

I don’t understand this sentence, can you expand on

Everything felt kinda dead x_x to the point where the D1 was literally just a shrugyeet on someone who wasnt here

No one really established themselves in the thread aside from Nutella

Ah gotcha, thanks.

If anything Delta, claiming here is brave and if you really are a 3p, I do want to give you a shot to plead your case.

This win con makes *more* sense with explanation, though having no influence over the game other than influencing your choice of yet is kind of a bizarre wincon, especially in having knowledge of the other side.

I still feel like something feels off, and it’s being a voyeur for the other side with no influence on them.

Any other info that may be pertinent? Maybe the other thread had some revelations in mech or

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:05 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:04 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:03 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:00 pm I make a guess for each thread before daystart

3 exact guesses, win
5 alignment guesses right in 6, win
3 consecutive player guesses, win

I guess this makes more sense to give you more outs.

So theoretically, you could have won at the end of our d2 if you had guessed everything correctly by that point?

Do you fly away into the trees if you win or

yep, if I win I leave early
cant solo win

Oh, I thought you said you’d be a survivor if you don’t fulfill your other

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:00 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:55 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:52 pm FWIW, I don't know if I've ever SEEN Delta play a game like this before. It's not like W Delta nor like T Delta, it's very middling and I can half see where Delta was playing to a neutral. HOWEVER, that's probably easily fakable.

So still, it remains kinda a

It's rough because its like

As town I'm loud because I try to get myself nightkilled & as a wolf I'm loud to gain thread control

Over here was very quiet & I resolved to just. Keeping quiet & playing nice since no one really made themselves a threat to the wolves anyway x_X

I don’t understand this sentence, can you expand on

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:03 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:00 pm I make a guess for each thread before daystart

3 exact guesses, win
5 alignment guesses right in 6, win
3 consecutive player guesses, win

I guess this makes more sense to give you more outs.

So theoretically, you could have won at the end of our d2 if you had guessed everything correctly by that point?

Do you fly away into the trees if you win or

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:52 pm FWIW, I don't know if I've ever SEEN Delta play a game like this before. It's not like W Delta nor like T Delta, it's very middling and I can half see where Delta was playing to a neutral. HOWEVER, that's probably easily fakable.

So still, it remains kinda a

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:52 pm So... robyn+tutuu made "Yeet Delta" into a thing based on the presence of Delta in the other thread. Yeah?

Why didn't we know that information?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:50 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:21 pm Man I'm half tempted to try solve this for style points at this stage

It doesnt even affect me I just wanna see if I can
had to fucking shoot myself in the foot pretty much since my wincon doesnt pair with how I play normally

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:32 pm What is your win con? What can you tell us about the other thread?

To add on to this, you offered to tell us info about the other thread in exchange for keeping you alive. But that’s not exactly how negotiations go.

Many people, from my mafia experience, would be ready to blast a self-claiming 3p into the sun regardless of what you have to say after. I think it’s a fair assumption that if you were to say ‘I could be mf Santa Claus or 70 rabies-ravaged raccoons in a red suit’, we’d just kill you just to be sure.

So…since you’ve already claimed, I’d suggest that you just tell us information pertinent to helping town, and we’ll assess whether or not you are town-siding.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:32 pm What is your win con? What can you tell us about the other thread?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:52 pm lol, Delta's fine, but if they flip anything other than scum can we yeet Tutuu off a cliff?

they fr didn't ack any of the things I had to say about them, was like 'I'll case wilgy' and then 'oh wow, I cased wilgy and they came back scum!'

All seems very reactionary/premeditated and slightly omgusy as they seemed to ignore what I had to say about them being suspect last cycle. Not to mention it's just silly.

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:07 am I don't realistically expect anyone to unvote Delta over this but still just to be safe - please don't. There are are about a million reasons to chop him, so just kill him

Delta wrote: ↑Tue Oct 24, 2023 6:05 pm I can grab some links to games, I think my best example is Turtles Mafia where I was pushed every day but survived every day regardless because those pushing me just died every day :wowee: I was top poster by a good margin and generally just would not shut my mouth

As for MU, I'll link my first & most recent wolf rands since I think they're both pretty good examples of how I play:
viewtopic.php?t=2535
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... 6-D6-Mafia
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... rbo-Burial (was Gengar in this game)

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:33 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:29 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:27 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:23 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:22 pm therefore my overnight checklist:

- look into my silly Ilario/Cape theory
- reread EOD once awake
- read into vote stuff since the split is interesting here

This reads as very performative and comfortable.

You are pretty confident you’re not dying tonite is that a

I play to get myself killed, it's at the heart of how I play town :wowee:

Risk of nk wont stop me from making my silly little lists. I hope they scare the wolves, even

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:11 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:31 am

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:19 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:09 am had some thoughts after skimming how eod went though that wasnt the nk i expected and seeing robyn here is also a bit confusing so i probs need to mull over a few things first

Not the NK you expected? Who'd you expect?

i didnt really expect nutella since i was kinda tinfoiling her overnight because her votes and pushes seemed to be pretty unspicy and landed on alota LHF which is uncharacterisitc of her. delta was who i expected to be night killed, theyre a strong player and felt seemingly engaged in the game. though in hindsight i might have townread delta for flimsy reasons, and there was something i noticed from them earlier today that pinged me but i just havent had enough time to dig as deep as i would like to see if any of this holds weight

blink blink

man d1 I dont think I left with anything too strong ?_? I didnt expect myself to die at all LMAO

Your D1 self apparently disagrees

Compare D1 of Beans mafia where I went along with things compared to D2 where I hounded LC for 48 hours

Once I have a starting point I get more comfortable with my reads & pose more of a threat. It doesnt change that I play to eat a NK, I just am less of a threat without any direct sortve path

I know you were gonna go, but can you link me to a scum game of yours? Or at least point it out to me?

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:29 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:27 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:23 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:22 pm therefore my overnight checklist:

- look into my silly Ilario/Cape theory
- reread EOD once awake
- read into vote stuff since the split is interesting here

This reads as very performative and comfortable.

You are pretty confident you’re not dying tonite is that a

I play to get myself killed, it's at the heart of how I play town :wowee:

Risk of nk wont stop me from making my silly little lists. I hope they scare the wolves, even

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:11 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:31 am

potentialsheltervet wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:19 am

ilario wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:09 am had some thoughts after skimming how eod went though that wasnt the nk i expected and seeing robyn here is also a bit confusing so i probs need to mull over a few things first

Not the NK you expected? Who'd you expect?

i didnt really expect nutella since i was kinda tinfoiling her overnight because her votes and pushes seemed to be pretty unspicy and landed on alota LHF which is uncharacterisitc of her. delta was who i expected to be night killed, theyre a strong player and felt seemingly engaged in the game. though in hindsight i might have townread delta for flimsy reasons, and there was something i noticed from them earlier today that pinged me but i just havent had enough time to dig as deep as i would like to see if any of this holds weight

blink blink

man d1 I dont think I left with anything too strong ?_? I didnt expect myself to die at all LMAO

Your D1 self apparently disagrees

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:23 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:22 pm therefore my overnight checklist:

- look into my silly Ilario/Cape theory
- reread EOD once awake
- read into vote stuff since the split is interesting here

This reads as very performative and comfortable.

You are pretty confident you’re not dying tonite is that a

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:13 pm

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Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:17 pm

Cape90 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:59 am Out of the """major"""" wagons, I would choose Long Con > Delta > PSV in terms of where I am at.

Agree with this. Only would vote Delta because Robyn’s opinion, which has not been explained anyway. I don’t see anything particularly wolfy about Delta’s

i'm kinda in the zone of I don't particularly think Delta has mega towny posts, like he has decent posts, but i think PSV... idk just something about her posts just townpinged me more, though I wouldn't be surprised if Delta is just town here

About robyn's read, like I kinda saw it with the wording of the post robyn quoted... sort of

robyn wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:53 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 4:44 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:49 pm

Delta wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:27 pm Eh
Questions for the crowd:
- For those who switched to Porscha; what inspired the change?
- General thoughts coming out of EOD?
&
- Where are people at roughly with their thoughts?
I feel like things were quiet as is but without Nutella pushing things forward, its. More quiet. So whenever someone does check in I'd appreciate a response to these ^^

I switched to Porscha pretty close to EOD, when they were ahead of second place by 5-3, my vote making it 6-3. My vote wasn't changing the results anyway, but I hopped on because I felt like it, I guess.

My thoughts are that PSV is a Wolf, and I'm voting that way, and I'd be fine with others doing the same.

Noted! \o/

Leaning towards voting PSV considering how EOD went as well, I am very curious about the pivot in general though because if the vote went from wolf -> town in a sudden burst, I think there's likely a wolf in those who piled on once things built up. I know it was mainly town-driven given Nutella's flip but like. A pure pivot onto a lowposter from someone who wasn't doing great engagement wise seems really odd ?_?

this is scum.
the other 17 words are useless
i caught one

like idk it's rambly, it points fingers at a very obvious world/conclusion just pointing an attack on PSV. nutella comment was strange to add in the middle of this