The Syndicate

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:22 pm
I noticed. Didn't have time to retract.

is this serious, are you saying to intended to retract?? why

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:12 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:05 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:47 pm Something funky with that end of day vote pile on falcon.
I’m looking at you, Martin/wilgy/stick/baker.

Not all of those are bad, but I find it hard to believe that was all town. Nothing about falcon seemed particularly suspicious to me.

My initial perception is it was a save on Abbi based on votes, but that’s if there were 3+ mafia. Abbi didn’t even save herself which is…uhhh…sure something.

Anyway 9v3 seems overpowered. Could be 9 v 2 v 1 I guess.
But I dunno what the 3p would be. SK seems almost impossible with no kill last night.

Probably operating under 10v2 with some powerful scum PRs until we see a reason to believe otherwise.
Weird implying I was part of the pile on.

10 v 2 is a 4 misyeeter
9 v 3 is a 3 misyeeter

Both theoretically within a realm of balance, the latter being slightly scum favored. Probably try to play for the first and hope?
You weren’t. You started it- I clarified in my next post.

I think you came out of that looking townier, which is annoying because I really thought I had you

okay this is a pretty townie development of thought ngl

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:02 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:52 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

party at my place tonight if I'm indeed obvious villager!
I give this vote a B-
Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:53 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine i wont stop a falcon wagon tho

Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:54 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

ok ill consolidate here lol
I give this vote a C-, borderline F.

Voting a wagon while hedging a town? Makes me just want to townread LC by association with this vote.

baker wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:54 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:52 pm [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

party at my place tonight if I'm indeed obvious villager!
[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

please don't die martin

these wolves will rip me apart!!!
I give this vote a C- as well.
I don’t know baker as a player, but this screams performative, and not in the one winning any awards

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:12 pm [VOTE: Falc] aubergine I've missed you buddy
I give this vote a B+
Being that it was the initial vote and stayed there for the last 2 hours of the day, while Wilgy was involved and present, is not incredibly suspicious.

Gotta be honest, I came into today based on backreading comments at end of day wanting Wilgy’s head, but I don’t think his vote on that wagon is the most suspicious after looking at the votes in iso.

Baker had seemingly no reason to vote falcon based on what’s shown. It could be said Stick was just looking to ‘consolidate their vote’ which is a towny quality in binary terms, but the post voting for LC while shrugging about the falcon vote was super weird to me.

this is...a pretty ok analysis of those votes, ill say. mostly because i think your assessment of what my vote there looks reasonable and id have agreed with it if those posts werent made my me LOL

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 8:01 pm also, like

re "crazy"

I guess I could be crazy but honestly fuck that the opinion / not you, we have 250ish posts, several very low posting/contributing players, and I'm not consistently superb at playing mafia

right now I'm just trying, saying things, dumping whatever thoughts I have that might even be 10% relevant

contributing somehow in the hopes we all figure something out

maybe that constitutes crazy but like its not as if I can avoid being that if the circumstances promote it or whatever

ok i know i just said i had a townlean on you but this is giving performative wolf vibes again im sorry flsdfl

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:52 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:47 pm @baker @Stick @DrWilgy @MartinGG99

i hope you guys sat down and reflected on your actions overnight
unfortunately, I am several years into my mafia career and so am not so prone to being guilt-ridden by mistakes

regardless though I partially stand by on my actions because I don't think Falcon took showing himself to be town seriously

forum mafia is more than about solving, even if you have the perfect solve you still have to convince people about why you're town, why X is bad, counteract WIFOM issues, etc etc etc

also, worst comes to worse, we'll have some wagon shifting to look at if we presume the wolves cared about appearances

dont worry, that was a light hearted comment im not serious :p in hindsight we shouldnt have flashwagoned an AFK guy in a closed setup game, but it happens!! i wasnt really thinking about PRs ill admit lol. there was still a save overnight tho so we're not in too bad of a spot. i still have a townlean on you i think

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:47 pm Not all of those are bad, but I find it hard to believe that was all town

[VOTE: Scotty] aubergine

have you never seen a pure town wagon on a town? i find that hard to believe

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 7:34 pm also I don't really feel like DrWilgy tried to take advantage of the situation wherein a wolf might since they would know falcon to be town

can you elaborate on this? do you think wolves wouldve tmi'd falcon there/tried to white knight them? what if abbi is a wolf? you dont seem to consider that world here, because in w!abbi worlds wolves wouldve jumped on any counter wagon imo

@baker @Stick @DrWilgy @MartinGG99

i hope you guys sat down and reflected on your actions overnight

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:58 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:57 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:57 pm good work team, this will surely flip mafia
That would be a nice Xmas gift.
aw shucks

since this is going to flip a town I'll have to NK myself tonight as a gift now

i got you covered

good work team, this will surely flip mafia

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

ok ill consolidate here lol

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine i wont stop a falcon wagon tho

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:45 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 6:45 pm martin might be the most obvious villager in the game rn
Why, because he's telling us he's hesitant about the easy wagon?

i think hes the only one trying to solve rn LMAO. might just be me being too generous but hey

martin might be the most obvious villager in the game rn

everyone here must be mafia, surely mafia wouldnt forget hmmyes

scotty kinda fell off imo, but wouldnt vote them today

why falcon, martin?

has baker even posted anything AI lmfao

what's the case on baker?

wait it's literally eod where is everybody

yea honestly i might end on long con, let's see

robyn wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 3:44 pm stick’s catch up was surprisingly bad, i don’t suspect her or anything but those were just not good posts, lacking in actual reads and more like “where do i vote”

my feelings

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:18 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 2:16 am Abbi is gonna reread this from the start this time hopefully with like... the ability to retain info
No, impossible, I've tried 3 times already.

like i am probably unironically just going to townread this even tho it's the easiest post in the world to fake

Garebare2468 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:00 pm My best friend wanted me to play so I'm trying it out. I'm the same way. I'll have no idea how to tell who is and isn't mafia.

hi!! welcome

talk to me about what convinced you to vote for martin? just vibes? or maybe you saw someone say something you agreed with?

that was worth a try, but i unvoted on the poll LOL

[unvote]Long Con[/unvote]

tie! >:)

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 5:54 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:19 am
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:48 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:37 pm and since you have thoughts on this game, what about stick
All I know of Stick is that Stick was among the higher-ranked players of the last MU Champs, so I don't think much can be applied to them -- in particular the observation of whether or not they're comfortable. Chances are they can muster confidence in how they play.

The "phone in" framing seems a bit genuine -- I would think a wolf could use more common wording and not be concerned at all, and they would be right -- but their pre-emptive "sorry if that's the case" in their elaboration seems possibly TMI-ish for this stage of the game. I mean, as I've said, it goes without saying that people can and will be wrong in this game, especially early game. So its odd to be apologized to for that at this stage, and under circumstances wherein only two people have voiced anything negative about me.
oh btw are you the martin from this years champs game 9 with that sick outing hammer? that was funny

also how do i unvote lol
You can just unvote by selecting "Naomh Pádraig (host/spec)", at least I think that's how it should be. If it weren't possible then why not tell people they must vote someone? Regardless, you can always ask the host in DMs/PMs privately per host rules #4 & #6 in the OP.

And yep, in both of my champs games in the past (which were wolf games) I've self-outed for what I like to believe is the benefit of my teammates so that they can make it past LYLO (which they did both times).

Though I generally don't talk much about either of them unless someone is forcibly tying their scumread of me to those games (this has already happened once back in the summer). Mixed bag of feelings and all.

ohh gotcha, that makes sense. thanks!!

i see, i can respect that

honestly, wilgy's scumgame (going off the one game ive played with them) was a lot more centered on posting busy work and, well, showing some kind of process even if it was not the most intuitive way one would solve

not to say people cant have different playstyles as scum varying from game to game, but something to note because i dont really see that kinda play from wilgy here

martin's made some redeeming posts and im happy to join them on [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:24 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:08 pm I understand "[player X] feels fine" as a townread, and I'm curious to know why you say you don't.
I understand "I feel good about [player X]" as a townread

"feels fine" is a strict downgread into null or otherwise nuanced reads imo

honestly i just meant that i dont see any reason to actively suspect her atm (bc i saw someone vote her), but it can be taken as a light townlean if you want me to categorise the feeling into a read

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:48 pm
robyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:37 pm and since you have thoughts on this game, what about stick
All I know of Stick is that Stick was among the higher-ranked players of the last MU Champs, so I don't think much can be applied to them -- in particular the observation of whether or not they're comfortable. Chances are they can muster confidence in how they play.

The "phone in" framing seems a bit genuine -- I would think a wolf could use more common wording and not be concerned at all, and they would be right -- but their pre-emptive "sorry if that's the case" in their elaboration seems possibly TMI-ish for this stage of the game. I mean, as I've said, it goes without saying that people can and will be wrong in this game, especially early game. So its odd to be apologized to for that at this stage, and under circumstances wherein only two people have voiced anything negative about me.

oh btw are you the martin from this years champs game 9 with that sick outing hammer? that was funny

also how do i unvote lol

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 8:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:40 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:31 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:12 pm Also 1 in Martin, Robyn, MR and Baker.

Easiest read of my life.

haha why these 3 specifically?
There's 4 in that list

Hey go easy on him, Sticks aren’t known around the forest for their mathematics

But that is perplexing…tinfoil there exists that stick saw their partner and unconsciously left them out.
More likely however is stick didn’t realize MR was a player

more that i didnt really register the names but saw a list and wondered how wilgy decided there had to be 1 in them specifically

so yeah i cant count, basically

wilgy ignoring my question is NOTED though. i will remember this when im deciding my night kill tomorrow

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:36 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:28 pm abbi feels fine to me atm FTR!!
nahhhhhhh

-1 to Stick for light defending your baddie buddie

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:32 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:26 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:08 pm
Garebare2468 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:18 pm This is my first game.
what's your motivation in mafia? Like what attracts you to the game or what brings you to this site or etc?

I don't feel much excitement from this, which is fine as everyone plays and treats forum mafia differently, but it gets me concerned I will understand so little of you that I won't be able to tell if you're town or not just because you could be different from me.
this felt a little too phoned in, forgor to comment on it earlier

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine
phoned in? O.o

and generally yes poll votes are official vote, just vote tags help track history

it's like youre trying to show us that youre thinking about the game very hard? but in like a lowkey performative way? i could just be misreading your playstyle - sorry if that's the case xd. still early in the phase tho we got time, this isnt a strong read at all

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:12 pm Also 1 in Martin, Robyn, MR and Baker.

Easiest read of my life.

haha why these 3 specifically?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:29 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:27 pm do i have to also vote on the poll above for it to be a valid vote?
99% of the time yes.

gotcha ty

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:07 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:01 am 1. I’m choosing to believe falcon’s townclaim until further notice

2. Scotty is probably a villager for attempting to make reads right out of the gate
What if there was a teeeeeny tiny question mark after his exclamation, like this:
I AM TOWN!?

confirmed lost wolf then

cool emojis lol

abbi feels fine to me atm FTR!!

do i have to also vote on the poll above for it to be a valid vote?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:08 pm
Garebare2468 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 9:18 pm This is my first game.
what's your motivation in mafia? Like what attracts you to the game or what brings you to this site or etc?

I don't feel much excitement from this, which is fine as everyone plays and treats forum mafia differently, but it gets me concerned I will understand so little of you that I won't be able to tell if you're town or not just because you could be different from me.

this felt a little too phoned in, forgor to comment on it earlier

[VOTE: MartinGG99] aubergine

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:39 am
Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:01 am 1. I’m choosing to believe falcon’s townclaim until further notice

2. Scotty is probably a villager for attempting to make reads right out of the gate

Why?

I have it on good authority he does it every game, regardless of alignment

are you a villager this time tho? answer carefully

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:00 am [VOTE: baker] aubergine

Leave Stick alone!

pocket accepted

Oh, in that case I watched it before

baker wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:29 am
Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:58 am I watched wolfwalkers in honour of this game and also forced some friends to watch it with me
oh

did you watch it before the rand or after?

after. why? o.o

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:13 am
Stick wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:53 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:04 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:48 am hihi

thisll be my first game on this site

glhf
Hiyo

Have you played mafia before?
yeah!! From this playerlist I’ve played with Abigail (a bunch of times), baker (a couple of times), and Dr Wilgy (once) on other sites.

Why are there different post caps for certain players? I thought it was 85 for everybody ?
85 per room round so since I posted 3 times in the N0 phase I'll cap at 88.

Also hi!

hi radishes, excited to play with you!!

OHH that makes sense, thanks

1. I’m choosing to believe falcon’s townclaim until further notice

2. Scotty is probably a villager for attempting to make reads right out of the gate

I watched wolfwalkers in honour of this game and also forced some friends to watch it with me

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 11:36 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:48 am hihi

thisll be my first game on this site

glhf
Wait Yo stick is in this game???

hi abbi

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:04 pm
Stick wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 4:48 am hihi

thisll be my first game on this site

glhf
Hiyo

Have you played mafia before?

yeah!! From this playerlist I’ve played with Abigail (a bunch of times), baker (a couple of times), and Dr Wilgy (once) on other sites.

Why are there different post caps for certain players? I thought it was 85 for everybody ?

hihi

thisll be my first game on this site

glhf

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