The Syndicate

Is there a dead chat anywhere

Oh, I'm curious why he killed the cop over the tracker or watcher on N1 then

I was convinced he was ninja strongman or bulletproof strongman because of it

Fun game, was hoping to be town but Wilgy was a great partner to work with~

It's funny how in hindsight Martin dying over falcon was actually good for us, though!

Oh

I guess lily wasn't the SK after all

That hard world is that one of them is getting too easy of a pass*

Or I'm just misreading his interactions with 112

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:43 pm
dokidoki wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:25 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:20 pm
dokidoki wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:15 pm I'm around, but I have nothing to say really

I know nanook isn't town and I am voting him, I don't know if he's SK or Mafia so I don't really feel comfortable looking for spew

And if he survives today I'll handle it tonight

But my vote isn't moving for obvious reasons
Alright but who's Nook's teammate if they are W? Why would you be uncomfortable looking for spew?
Gathering spew from a SK does nothing, if lily comes in tomorrow and says nook was mafia then that's cool and I'll work with that, if she says he was SK then I don't see any gain from it

I think it's clear that I am still not sold on the falcon town train although I haven't done all that much today to educate myself in either direction

I do agree that Brad's posting today has been a relatively bad sign for him though so it's possible that it's just him

Otherwise I don't really know, if he's mafia then you're cleared off my track on you, lily would be cleared except in exactly Abigail/lily worlds I think, and I don't really think he's with 112 because he would probably be pushing the thunderdome between us harder if the alternative was his teammate

So I guess the easy answer is Brad and the one I want to be correct for my own personal accuracy is falcon
Falcon can't be Nooks teammate due to action economy, so you think post Nook flip there's either just the SK or 1 W left then? UNLESS we are specifically in the world where Nook SK, Falcon W? or Abigail/Lily W/W?

Oh yeah

Then I guess if he's mafia then one of Abigail/lily is getting too easy of a pass

That's unsettling

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:20 pm
dokidoki wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 12:15 pm I'm around, but I have nothing to say really

I know nanook isn't town and I am voting him, I don't know if he's SK or Mafia so I don't really feel comfortable looking for spew

And if he survives today I'll handle it tonight

But my vote isn't moving for obvious reasons
Alright but who's Nook's teammate if they are W? Why would you be uncomfortable looking for spew?

Gathering spew from a SK does nothing, if lily comes in tomorrow and says nook was mafia then that's cool and I'll work with that, if she says he was SK then I don't see any gain from it

I think it's clear that I am still not sold on the falcon town train although I haven't done all that much today to educate myself in either direction

I do agree that Brad's posting today has been a relatively bad sign for him though so it's possible that it's just him

Otherwise I don't really know, if he's mafia then you're cleared off my track on you, lily would be cleared except in exactly Abigail/lily worlds I think, and I don't really think he's with 112 because he would probably be pushing the thunderdome between us harder if the alternative was his teammate

So I guess the easy answer is Brad and the one I want to be correct for my own personal accuracy is falcon

I'm around, but I have nothing to say really

I know nanook isn't town and I am voting him, I don't know if he's SK or Mafia so I don't really feel comfortable looking for spew

And if he survives today I'll handle it tonight

But my vote isn't moving for obvious reasons

I was under the impression that if the SK picked strongman all of their kills were strongmanned?

Either way, I feel like this game is going to become one where I just hope everybody else is right

I'll sit on that

She can only be mafia in very fringe worlds, I saw the visit happen so she isn't mafia who did the kill and her role is the freest one to do the kill with; 112 and Abigail both have day roles too I suppose and I don't really think she's with either of those two

Strongman SK is possible and if Brad is town then we know the SK is strongmanned but if she's SK I'd assume all the flips she's told us so far have been true since the mafia would know if she were lying about Martin otherwise

Unless there's two dead mafia then maybe she'd lie about it to keep us off the SK trail for longer (but I'm not even sure if she'd think of that)

I could see it but I'm not super interested in SK hunting as of now, there's decent odds they'll just naturally die anyways whether it be by us voting them out on accident or them dying at night

Could be a decent mental note for later on I suppose

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:55 am
dokidoki wrote: ↑Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:54 am Oops, I fell asleep gm

I'm a bit jealous you get to meet Lumi in person, Abigail! I'd ask you to tell them I said hi but they wouldn't know who "dokidoki" is, probably.

I'm still not quite sure what the case against 112 is but given I townread most of the people on them I might just shrug it off and assume I'm missing something
wolfy post

I humbly request a free wolfy post pass as I just got out of bed

Seriously though, I still want to kill falcon but it seems like half the game is deciding that falcon cannot be mafia for reasons I disagree with, I think nanook is outed but the loudest players don't seem to care

I don't have the energy to outpost or overrule players like Abigail or lily

I don't really know what to do given all of that

Oops, I fell asleep gm

I'm a bit jealous you get to meet Lumi in person, Abigail! I'd ask you to tell them I said hi but they wouldn't know who "dokidoki" is, probably.

I'm still not quite sure what the case against 112 is but given I townread most of the people on them I might just shrug it off and assume I'm missing something

To clarify by "last posts" I mean your posts right before the day ended

Bbl

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 4:00 pm
dokidoki wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:44 pm Who else could I possibly have been asking?

Martin didn't self pres onto you either so that question probably is pointless

I didn't see your question, you're acting as tho it should've been obvious & quickly answered when it was a buzzer beater post, and you did nothing to alert me...like tag me, or quote me

You were actively posting when I asked, I didn't think it was necessary to ping you

I don't think it's impossible for you to have missed it but I also find your last posts to be pretty wolfy even if I ignore that

Either way I'm probably voting nook today unless something changes

Who else could I possibly have been asking?

Martin didn't self pres onto you either so that question probably is pointless

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:13 pm
dokidoki wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 3:05 pm It looks like Martin was parked on 112 all day and you're clearing falcon for voting Martin while tunneling 112

Kind of feels like you're just trying to support a predetermined conclusion
erm

falcon self pres'd

falcon's eod was also fairly towny

Do you think he wouldn't self pres as mafia

I don't get it

I think his eod was... not towny but I am mostly suspicious that he never answered my question

It looks like Martin was parked on 112 all day and you're clearing falcon for voting Martin while tunneling 112

Kind of feels like you're just trying to support a predetermined conclusion

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:35 pm Late D1 from my #385 (~12 hr before EoD)
Lime Coke (1): Falcon45ca
Seanzie (1): DrWilgy
Porscha (3): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, nutella, Seanzie
Falcon45ca (3): Lime Coke, lilypetal, Porscha
☆Princess Abigail☆ (1): 112
112 (2): MartinGG99, ☆Princess Abigail☆
Not Voting (1): dokidoki
D1 EoD
falcon45ca (4): Lime Coke, dokidoki, Porscha, lilypetal
MartinGG99 (4): falcon45ca, ☆Princess Abigail☆, nutella, Seanzie
☆Princess Abigail☆ (2): 112
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME (1): DrWilgy
Porscha (1): NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
112 (1): MartinGG99

if you're town I don't know why you're so skeptical of it either

It looks like the falcon wagon was all town unless Brad is mafia

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:56 pm
dokidoki wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:54 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:53 pm
dokidoki wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:51 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:47 pm disagree with 112 looking good tho, p sure they're the most obv wolf
They seemed fine to me?

I haven't looked at associatives with Martin though
who are wolves
I still think falcon is one

and Nanook might be outed
you really think we had w/w wagons?

I don't have any reason to doubt it?

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:53 pm
dokidoki wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:51 pm
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:47 pm disagree with 112 looking good tho, p sure they're the most obv wolf
They seemed fine to me?

I haven't looked at associatives with Martin though
who are wolves

I still think falcon is one

and Nanook might be outed

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 2:47 pm disagree with 112 looking good tho, p sure they're the most obv wolf

They seemed fine to me?

I haven't looked at associatives with Martin though

Looked at the OP again

I think the only way for Brad to not be lying is if the SK strongmanned Seanzie

I could see that being the case if the SK was scared Seanzie would check them, but I don't really know who he'd peek

Any ideas?

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

I'm pretty sure that's literally impossible to be true

And with three deaths I don't think it could have been a prevented attack, especially since Brad claimed to doctor Seanzie instead

Unfortunately both the Tracker and Watcher dying means I'm probably just going to poison someone tonight

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 1:46 pm
dokidoki wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 1:44 pm Yo

Pretty sure I've got a greencheck on Wilgy
how so

I saw who he visited

It wasn't very beneficial for mafia and it was very beneficial for town

112 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 1:42 pm
Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 1:40 pm Legit I probably got fucking roleblocked too because I tried to save Seanzie but he ended up dying anyways.
uh, if i'm reading this right it probably means wilgy roleblocked the doctor?

He didn't

I think falcon is probably mafia for the poison and was very close to poisoning falcon last night

Yo

Pretty sure I've got a greencheck on Wilgy

dokidoki wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:55 am How strongly do you feel that Brad is mafia?

Other than him, who do you think is wolfy?

This is to falcon, by the way

Your answer probably decides who I vote

How strongly do you feel that Brad is mafia?

Other than him, who do you think is wolfy?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:53 am What's the case against Martin?

He's not really townie in a game with more townie people and is a role that can be disruptive

It's kind of funny that you said one of his wolfier posts in my eyes was townie, but I can see what you're saying with the other one

One moment

Hm... Do you think Porscha is somebody who would recognize those snippets of nuance?

I'll consider it but I don't have time to really see how true any of this is

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:41 am
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:52 am The more I think about it the more i can really just see the wilgy/martin/falcon team lol

I remember lime or someone also thinking wilgy could be the sk and idr why
Falcon's fine. They've done town!Falcon things.

Such as?

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Honestly I'll probably switch to Martin if the votes end at 3-3 but I do think this is more likely to flip mafia

Actually I guess I wouldn't since there's no alignment flip

Fun!

Morning, lily!

I would prefer you voted martin or falcon, personally, but I also wouldn't lose sleep over it... it does seem like my vote is going to be the decider though

Which I might lose a bit of sleep over but probably not

oki doki!

Is anyone else gonna show up

What turned you around on Porscha?

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:49 am
dokidoki wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:46 am I don't really get your view on the Wilgy/falcon duo, can you go into more detail there

The Wilgy towncase did not at all convince me
I mean, maybe hes just powerwolfing towncasing his partner but at the time it came across as real to me

Idk, now that i think of it martin could also fit with wilgy so maybe thats just the team

That was my fear too

I'm still considering whether or not I want to just vote out falcon and then kill Wilgy out of policy if falcon is mafia

I do feel like we have really different views on this game overall

Honestly, I do think you're pretty wolfy, but I don't really think I'm going to vote you today

I don't really get your view on the Wilgy/falcon duo, can you go into more detail there

The Wilgy towncase did not at all convince me

Yeah I wouldn't be opposed to it

I feel like it's completely random what he'll flip but I may be down to just eliminate the bus driver equation from the game entirely

Yo, I thought end of day was tomorrow, I'm still at work and will be until EoD but I'll get a vote down

I agree that Bus Driver is one of those roles that is dangerous to keep around if they're not villagery, I feel like the Doublevoter is more applicable to that rule because BD is a really strong role for town where I don't think the doublevoter adds a ton

Let me read up on Martin again, I didn't really get an impression before

Hey Porscha, thoughts on Wilgy?

I also thought the neighborhood role was a night action, I would have expected her to use it on me after she decided we were masons but that isn't the case

I'm glad for that, I can only check in occasionally

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:35 pm
dokidoki wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:06 pm No fancy catchup today, I'm honestly pooped. Long day at work, sry

It feels like Wilgy is chainsawing pushes onto falcon, @DrWilgy why are you so confident? This post doesn't really tell me anything as I don't know either of you and I don't believe that genuine confusion about a nonstandard setup is all that alignment indicative

I weirdly like the cut of Seanzie's gib, which I was not expecting

Brad is probably town, I think lightly better of lily for seeing it

My top FoSes right now would be nutella, falcon, Wilgy, and Porscha
Define chainsawing

Also my read on Falcon had nothing to do with his set up confusion?

You chainsawing would be you calling out Seanzie's vote onto falcon followed by a vote on Seanzie shortly after without having mentioned Seanzie prior

I would define chainsawing as "attacking a player specifically for accusing another player", this isn't a particularly open and shut case of it nor is it impossible for you to be town even if it were (else I'd be voting you) but it stuck out to me

My impression was that your townread on falcon had to do with his snappiness towards a misconception that had to do with the setup, in which I believe isn't all that alignment indicative

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 7:04 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 6:47 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 5:47 pm I missed Nanook's elaboration on the porscha read, and I see where its coming from but I rather not have faith in a probability read based on some broad-ish behavior.

Porcha's also the tracker. I'd say that's worth a night's wait at least.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine
It's specific to her so not really that broad imo

Also have really high success rate at correctly tring her when she's town so

Tracker also not on the shortlist of roles to not kill d1 anyways
I suppose so if its more of a meta-specific thing. Thought it was broad as in like you'd foreseeably could apply to any other potential wolves. For some reason I didn't recall this sooner, but I have to ask @Seanzie if he was actually BSing about his read accuracy on Porscha in that recent wolf game or if he actually has that.

As for stuff not to kill d1, for me its largely just whatever adds information to the game or otherwise prevents death that shouldn't be instantly thrown out.

I think that ends up being a list of like, just thinking about the roles in isolation,

Wilgy (jailkeeper)
Lime (doctor)
Lily (coroner)*
Seanzie (delayed cop)*
Nutella (watcher)
Porscha (tracker)

Stuff with * is stuff that could be fake-able without much issue so idk about them. Which is only half or a third of the players in the game depending on how you take it.

I do agree with the notion that a player's role is worth thinking about with the elimination target

However if I thought the Coroner was wolfy I would ignore what they said and kill them, same with the Medic or the Poisoner

No fancy catchup today, I'm honestly pooped. Long day at work, sry

It feels like Wilgy is chainsawing pushes onto falcon, @DrWilgy why are you so confident? This post doesn't really tell me anything as I don't know either of you and I don't believe that genuine confusion about a nonstandard setup is all that alignment indicative

I weirdly like the cut of Seanzie's gib, which I was not expecting

Brad is probably town, I think lightly better of lily for seeing it

My top FoSes right now would be nutella, falcon, Wilgy, and Porscha

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