The Syndicate

Yay

GG!

If MR flips town, I will die tonight. If Mac flips scum, I will die tonight. That’s what I’ll promise.

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:56 pm but idt falc is bad

I wish Jack and Mac would get on and vote MR.

Gims voted MR for 2 seconds but I guess he’d rather follow the flash wagon crew.

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:55 pm
KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:52 pm Look the entire Wilgy wagon voting Mac. Not sus at all.
you scared me back in line lol

I mean why would we ever vote with that ENTIRE wagon that killed Wilgy

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:54 pm voted Mac tho scary to vote with radish LC voted there and he got us Scotty.

Vote Falcon and I will.

If Mac flips scum, I’ll die tonight so you don’t have to worry about sussing me tomorrow. But I don’t think he flips scum.

You really think voting with the 3 people you helped lim town is a smart move?

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:52 pm well

i tried.

Tried what exactly?

Look the entire Wilgy wagon voting Mac. Not sus at all.

This is so dumb

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:50 pm srsly vote me for the answers the town seeks

No

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:49 pm flashwagon me then Radish can eat crow and the game will move forward with usable info.

We’d lose…

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:46 pm
KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:45 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:38 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:36 pm As a host I'd be pretty disappointed if I designed an entire mechanic to base the game around and no one used it.
sometimes you win as a host and sometimes you lose. that's mafia.
Clearly Mac and Jack aren’t here. What do we do?
I am voting my baddie vibe.

I will not be voting falcon

Could vote Mac

Well we definitely lost unless they’re bussing.

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:45 pm feels like compromising on a townie tho lol

Why do you believe everyone that voted out town yesterday is town? YOU DONT EVEN KNOW MR’s ALIGNMENT. (If you’re town that is)

If you just TMI’d Falcon as town then whatever we already lost.

Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:38 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:36 pm As a host I'd be pretty disappointed if I designed an entire mechanic to base the game around and no one used it.
sometimes you win as a host and sometimes you lose. that's mafia.

Clearly Mac and Jack aren’t here. What do we do?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:43 pm
KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:40 pm Hey MR where’s that self vote today? Or is that only a trick that works once.
Does the snarkiness make you feel better?

I’m frustrated.

Ignoring or claiming to ignore someone’s posting completely feels antitown. Hmm, add it to the pile

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:39 pm Lmao I can't believe I'm going to get mischopped because I'm playing the game as it was designed.

There’s an option to fight or not. We are all playing the game as designed.

Hey MR where’s that self vote today? Or is that only a trick that works once.

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:36 pm
KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:34 pm
gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:33 pm well

I suppose we might as well use it
That’s dumb. Why? I haven’t used it. Have you?
nah ofc not

but yeah its worrysome cause roxy practically claimed battle weak. I don't know. I wish I had time to figure it out. maybe you would roleblock a scumread, yeah. but also, maybe you end up roleblocking TPR, maybe you lose the fight or something happens, so it feels really scummy to fight? LMAO

Exactly. It’s scummy. Maybe reevaluate MR.

Gims you’re just trying to talk yourself into what you want to believe (if you’re town) and not what is logically in front of you. MR was saved by a flash counterwagon, didn’t own up to fighting until called out, and is trying everything at EoD to get someone that voted him out. Be logical about this and don’t let one self vote allow scum to win. (if you’re town)

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:33 pm well

I suppose we might as well use it

That’s dumb. Why? I haven’t used it. Have you?

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:29 pm
Roxy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:28 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:15 pm
gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:14 pm [VOTE: roxy] aubergine
This is why you're my favourite
Why haven't you told anyone that you fought me even after I said "no thank you"? I posted v early in the day I was fought and won but you haven't told anyone you FORCED the fight and lost?
oh shit

I bet one of your “townreads” also roleblocked me, unless it was you, since no one is claiming it and we don’t have TSP’s flip.

This is so fucking dire of a vote that I’m honestly baffled no one is here trying to figure it out. If we vote town out here WE LOSE (town does) because scum kill town at night and then we are equal numbers and lose. Why is no one taking this seriously?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:22 pm
KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:21 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:39 am .

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:13 am .

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:56 am .
We need to consolidate our votes
You really think a me/gims scumteam is acting this way? And that all those people are town for it?

Yeesh.

I think scum has been active in the last hour two days in a row now making sure they get the wagon on a townie. So yes. I think scum care more about this game than town right now and I’m the only one trying to oppose you in the last hour where it’s going to make or break if we get scum out.

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:19 pm
KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:14 pm Okay what if LC and Falcon are scum? Are you saying scum resides in the 4 that voted MR? I think you’re not playing logically at all. Saying the counterwagon isn’t sus because you’re on it is one of the dumbest things I think you’ve ever said. You don’t know anyone’s alignment unless you’re scum so how are you so sure? You’re NEVER that sure.
you know what I think is sus? coming here the next day going 'this townie (which is me) and this guy he is townreading are both mafia'

I was literally voteparking on MR until I decided to care for a guy that went full on self vote on me. like, dont you even know my townplay anymore? of course I'll defend a reaction that I think is legit coming from town. the entire string of posting by MR. if he is scum I go ahead and eat crew, I don't think I'm wrong, I think you're wrong, and you're playing this very lazily. you didn't even read my posts either, you're just repeating something here when almost everyone that happens to be a townie is abandoning the associative for better solves. thats not townie.

You know I’m town. Town!you would be annoyed that I’m wrong (from ypov) but you wouldn’t sus me for it, you’d say I’m being silly. This is not town you because you’re not trying to get me to understand your pov but instead saying that my actions are sus which you KNOW they’re not. That’s why I think you’re scum.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:39 am .

Roxy wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:13 am .

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:56 am .

We need to consolidate our votes

I can’t tell who is pocketing who or if you’re both just bad.

You were* the current wagon

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:11 pm
KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:06 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:05 pm D1 was a town. D1 counter was a town. D2 was a town.

I know, let's keep doing what we're doing and kill the D2 counter.
You weren’t the counter. And wasn’t one of those flipped 3p?
I wasn't? Why did I have 4 votes then to Wilgy's 4?

Unless you're being specific in wilgy being the counter since his wagon came second. But my point stands - town has failed on three choices but you seem to think this time will be different. We're you a WWi general in your past life?

Counterwagon means you are trying to counter the current wagon. You weren’t the current wagon therefore the counterwagon was on Wilgy.

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:11 pm
KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:09 pm
gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:06 pm your reasons for scumreading me are not great, kay. you're scumreading me for townreading an unflipped slot on a babaloo associative read you decided to have.
You townread MR because “emotional reaction” which is flimsier than fuck. Look at that counter wagon and tell me that didn’t look sus as shit with 1 hour left in the day and that slot flipping town. You’re trying to absolve yourself of responsibility for throwing votes on a town slot that even you admitted didn’t do anything wrong.
no, you're just adding an adjective to something that happened and asking me to agree with that. I know the late CW wasn't sus because I participated in it. I participated in it because I read MR's posts. which is something you're not. like. you literally have nothing to say about radish other than 'they were saved so they are scum'. I don't think the guy is scummy now that he decided to play. I will keep defending him. defending my townreads is something I do. I did it with you particularly.

Okay what if LC and Falcon are scum? Are you saying scum resides in the 4 that voted MR? I think you’re not playing logically at all. Saying the counterwagon isn’t sus because you’re on it is one of the dumbest things I think you’ve ever said. You don’t know anyone’s alignment unless you’re scum so how are you so sure? You’re NEVER that sure.

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:06 pm your reasons for scumreading me are not great, kay. you're scumreading me for townreading an unflipped slot on a babaloo associative read you decided to have.

You townread MR because “emotional reaction” which is flimsier than fuck. Look at that counter wagon and tell me that didn’t look sus as shit with 1 hour left in the day and that slot flipping town. You’re trying to absolve yourself of responsibility for throwing votes on a town slot that even you admitted didn’t do anything wrong.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:05 pm D1 was a town. D1 counter was a town. D2 was a town.

I know, let's keep doing what we're doing and kill the D2 counter.

You weren’t the counter. And wasn’t one of those flipped 3p?

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:00 pm I spent all my energy trying to make you townread me and you literally poisoned me when you could've poisoned scum!mak instead

there is no way mak was townier and findable when he was just scum pocketing you

but about this game, yes I think you should find a better more realistic solve if you're town and I can't sit here and pretend that 'early townping on mac' and *got roleblocked* are decent enough reasons to townread you over people you're trying to kill like master radishes the towniest slot of endgame

I could only kill the person I was camping with so no, I could only kill you and when I said which of us got pocketed, YOU said Bessie was more likely scum that Mak so don’t act like you’d have made the right choice anyway. You seem bitter about another game and are taking it out on me here. Please stop.

Those that formed the late wagon on town are still voting together which means me, Roxy, Mac and Jack need to consolidate.

I think it should be on MR as that was who that counter wagon saved.

gims wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 8:42 am and KJQ but like

she just wants to murder me in every game now so that's the current meta.

You call my solve asinine and you say I just want to murder you? Maybe play better because insulting me and my play here is just stupid. You know I’m town and you’ve said it multiple times and yet you’re trying to keep me as an option why? Must be because you’re scum because your reasoning is insane and it makes no sense to ever sus me here. You know my town game and this is it. In that other game that ended elsewhere you admitted you played badly and it was a weird format so don’t act like just because I sussed you there and here, suddenly I just want to kill you as a new meta. It’s bullshit and it looks like you’re trying to diminish my reasons for scumreading you.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 3:51 am Sigh.

I see where LC is coming from but I also think we need to chop MR cuz I think the Wilgy c/w only rly makes sense if MR is mafia?

Coming from about what?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 8:09 pm
KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Tue Apr 15, 2025 4:44 pm How are ties won/lost btw? Am I missing something? If it’s just whoever gets to the tied amount first then I guess Jack isn’t cleared if MR is scum because it could’ve just been late day distancing. But that’s not the world I’m seeing right now.

Anyone else have any thoughts?
Ties are typically solved w a coin flip

Oh. Well then I guess I don’t really sus jack lol

How are ties won/lost btw? Am I missing something? If it’s just whoever gets to the tied amount first then I guess Jack isn’t cleared if MR is scum because it could’ve just been late day distancing. But that’s not the world I’m seeing right now.

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Are there 3 scum? MR, gims, falcon could be a team.

[VOTE: MR] aubergine

I’m assuming TSP was town though because I think scum are more involved in the game. TSP didn’t even vote and neither did Wilgy. As if it wasn’t already obvious that was a bad vote because it was so last minute, they didn’t self pres or try to fight it or anything. I’m annoyed at that obvious counterwagon. I think MR is almost certainly bad and gims is likely bad as well, and if not gims, someone else on the Wilgy vote.

Why don’t we get TSP role/alignment?

What does candy do?

I don’t understand that read

gims wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:55 pm
KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:43 pm So you waited for someone else to vote someone else instead of doing it yourself? Is that towny?
I cant be around too much and I could only react to radish around the same time LC voted elsewhere. we are both reacting to the same thing, and I think that is because that thing feels townie for the two of us. thats it.

If you’re scum, I know killing me tonight wastes the fact that I’m roleblocked but if this flips town and I’m alive tomorrow, you’re going to have to deal with me not believing anything you say. And you know how I can be when I think someone is scum.

gims wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:36 pm
KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:28 pm Great over-explained nonanswer here lol
lol, look, I promise you will not agree with me if I explain but let me try then

I think both #483 and #484 are very decent stances and based off his #482 this is a player that feels the flip is coming and the slot is doomed. when scum, I think the most go-to action would be making leans that make you look townie somehow instead of throwaway one liners that just make sense. now #485 about roxy townpings me heavily cause those are also sensible takes and radishes is doing something very important here when it comes to parsing out his alignment, which is: he is still trying to solve while pressed against a wall and is *not* coming with counterwagons to himself. he went full solve + PoE and isn't trying to fend off heat. I think these things are important emotional tells for him and I'm glad LC spotted them as well.

IDK anything about wilgy other than it didn't really vibe much either way so its better than radish

So you waited for someone else to vote someone else instead of doing it yourself? Is that towny?

I was really hoping LC was trying to see who all would jump on a counter wagon to get reads from possible flailing but I guess he’s serious so that’s unfortunate.

gims wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:26 pm
KayJayQueue wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:57 am
gims wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 11:55 am I think radish is towny now, this reaction seems pure fmpov

I'll [VOTE: mr wigly] aubergine with longcon and invite townies to this wagon instead. not that I know anything...

I think the 'pocketed' post could be scummy, if there's nothing else for us to go off of
What about the reaction is towny?
well you dont agree with my emotional reads

I understand you're sussing me for it, but it only truly makes sense if im scum *with* radish and am trying a probably worthless last minute pivot to a townie trying to save a partner. the most logical answer is that im town and I decided to get involved with this flip instead of just sheeping someone because I'm townreading the maing wagon, something you saw me do in *every single game of mafia* where I'm town

I'm town, kay

Great over-explained nonanswer here lol

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