The Syndicate

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:19 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:55 am Day 1 Mafia in a vacuum is Spacedaisy, Dyslexicon, and Ricochet.
Agree.

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:20 am I would expect mafia members to be more eager to come out strong and make a lasting impression on Day 1 in this particular game.

Maybe not all the mafia members. But certainly one or two.

I am struggling to reconcile these two positions.

[VOTE: Boquise] aubergine

lucy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:38 am epi gets a stronger tr for actually solving, I disagree with the boq vote though

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:58 pm At this moment I'm not voting for Rico, Spacedaisy, Martin, or Trips.

I'm currently fine with my present vote.
and it becomes a bit yikers. Still think that Epi is town but not vibing with this townlist

"Epi is good, but his opinions all suck."

Ricochet wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:38 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:55 am Day 1 Mafia in a vacuum is Spacedaisy, Dyslexicon, and Ricochet.
Is the BTSC prize even logical, mechanic-wise, if it would place two wolves in a hood? Town me with Dizzy sheeping at most.

If you won BTSC, what did you learn about Dyslexison?

What did Dyslexicon learn about you?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 10:44 am I'm also partially chalking it up to you playing this game a little differently than how my mental image of you would play it, which I'm currently chalking up to you mellowing with old age over you being a wolf (this may change but I don't really feel it)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:16 am Good luck have fun happy anniversary o7

I am equally happy that mafia got blasted as I am that I don't have to figure out Jack.

Good man.

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 1:08 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 9:19 pm
Moonwink wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:44 pm @Epignosis I still wanna form, like, a group of people to work with that includes you and SpaceDaisy, because I do genuinely believe that at most one of you is wolf (worst case scenario), if any at all (best case scenario). Do you have a pair of people that doesn't include us three that probably aren't scum together?
For future reference, mentioning me isn't necessary because I prefer to read the thread in chronological context, so I'll get to your post when I arrive at it, promise. I know you (and lucy below) don't know that about me, so I wanted to respond as soon as I could.

To answer your question, my mind doesn't work like that, and certainly not this early. Although I'm not altogether sure what you're asking for, since why would you want to work with me and Spacedaisy if one of us is bad? What does "work with" mean here?
Alright, got'cha on that first point.

Regarding the second, what I mean by "work with" is listening to and helping to push any theories you've got on the game unconditionally. And the reason why I'd want to work with you and Spacedaisy even if one of you is bad is because if there ISN'T mafia among us three, mafia will have to kill one of the three of us eventually since we'd be unconditionally working with each other and not questioning each other's alignment. It's similar to what I was doing with Dizzy D1 -- I tried just calling them unconditionally town and encouraged people to do the same in hopes to bait mafia to kill them N1.

Speaking of which...

@Dyslexicon Are you lowposting now because of me? :3

I understand you, and I understand the strategy, but I don't operate that way. I will turn on your ass in a second if I even think I found a spider web in a barn somewhere that said "Moo."

I also don't care about trying to manipulate the Night kill outside of specific strategies that don't apply here.

Boquise wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 3:38 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:33 pm Well shit. That was fast.

[VOTE: Dolby] aubergine

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:41 pm Nah, I rescind that vote. I think I'm misreading Dolby something fierce. [VOTE: Unvote] aubergine
I can easily see a town motivation behind all of this, for what it's worth. From the same school as Epignosis, for the Syndicate folks in the crowd.

I don't know your alignment. Regardless, we should have a beer one day.

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:15 pm
Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 8:13 pm [VOTE: Epi] aubergine
I'm not voting for him for anything he has posted, I think -- it's more about the game state and how others are treating him right now.

How others are treating me right now? Really?

You’re literally throwing right now Moonwink. @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Moonwink, if you're good, lay it all out there. Final thoughts.

Or if you're bad. Go for it either way.

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:48 pm Oh no, did you kill me? Honestly, I probably deserved it for that.

If I die from whatever Epi just did, Epi is proooobably town?

To be fair, I was always going to boomstick the first person I saw who voted for me. Too fun to pass up, especially early on. I am sorry if I chose poorly.

What's your role, if you don't mind, since Nanook is taking his sweet time (or sleeping)?

Sorry about that. Shit.

So I fucked up and I owe it to Moon to get the win. Be back in a little bit.

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:53 pm
Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:52 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:51 pm
Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:48 pm Oh no, did you kill me? Honestly, I probably deserved it for that.

If I die from whatever Epi just did, Epi is proooobably town?
To be fair, I was always going to boomstick the first person I saw who voted for me. Too fun to pass up, especially early on. I am sorry if I chose poorly.
No, it's all good. I know the risks and consequences that come along with my playstyle. It happens.
I will say though that I wouldn't trust anyone who has you more than a town lean right now. Not saying you were scummy, but I do think people were playing up how much they were townreading you.

They always do. I know that. But noted all the same.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 4:57 pm

I suspect Violet a little if Rico is mafia, because he was quite resistant to target Violet with our action (we didn't know what it would do), while he didn't hesitate on Ruri or TSP. Meaningless if Rico is town, but maybe has meaning if he's mafia. I don't know.

What did he say?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:52 pm maintaining that moonwink is ~obv wolf

Huh.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:43 am i wonder if I'm supposed to buy that Epi didn't even catch up on the thread before deciding to blast moonwink on impulse

I did not even catch up on the thread before deciding to blast Moonwink on impulse.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:51 pm
Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:48 pm Oh no, did you kill me? Honestly, I probably deserved it for that.

If I die from whatever Epi just did, Epi is proooobably town?
To be fair, I was always going to boomstick the first person I saw who voted for me. Too fun to pass up, especially early on. I am sorry if I chose poorly.

Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:09 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:04 pm @Moonwink Is there a reason you are talking about wanting to work with me and Epi and you have mentioned me more than once but you have never once spoken to me at all? Because it's weird. Why would you engage Epi about working with the three of us, but not me? Why would you ignore what I had to say about you before? What gives? I'd like to understand you but I just can't.
I wanted to hear what Epi, specifically thought about the idea and the logic behind it. I thought it would be appealing to him given what I remembered about him the one time I played with him (I was Hyena back then). I thought it would be telling (on his part) if he rejected the idea.

Huh.

Still a page behind, but I just feel like Boquise is too friendly about someone hardly known.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:32 pm I find it hard to believe Boq and Epi would be teammates with the level and kind of interaction between them. I feel like if there is wolf there, it's probably only one of the two.

I just offed someone with my super power. It isn't me. I'm a civilian who blew his load and sucked.

Boq confuses the shit out of me with the "I quote three people are good," but "two of these people are bad"

And if Boq is bad, I'd say Rico is his partner.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:53 am
Moonwink wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 11:51 pm I'm kinda disappointed that everybody ignored the Epi vote aside from Epi. I think that would have spewed Epi town regardless of whatever he did to me.
What was Moon talking about here?

These kids and their toys. Where's the B button?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:16 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:05 am
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 7:32 pm I find it hard to believe Boq and Epi would be teammates with the level and kind of interaction between them. I feel like if there is wolf there, it's probably only one of the two.
I just offed someone with my super power. It isn't me. I'm a civilian who blew his load and sucked.

Boq confuses the shit out of me with the "I quote three people are good," but "two of these people are bad"
Yeah when I saw what you did it was pretty obvious you are town. But it took me a minute to catch up to what was happening, lol.

My thing with Boq is him agreeing to your reads and then turning around and town reading two of the people you called wolf and he agreed with being wolf. That makes zero sense to me. It makes it look like he is trying to pocket you

I might look to see what the interactions are with Dizzy and Boq, but not at this moment because I need to get some work done. Because Dizzy commented on this weirdness but then said basically, but I agree with your reads, so I won't argue. What? If you are town and you spot some weird inconsistencies, shouldn't you want to know why?

Nobody pockets me though. Doesn't he know that?

Oh, he doesn't.

Plus, go ahead and try to put me in your pocket. I'll break both yours and your mama's seams.

lucy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:31 am
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 12:06 am So I fucked up and I owe it to Moon to get the win. Be back in a little bit.
you think?
idiot

I used my power and I don't regret doing so.

And now I have another power. I have Moonwinks' power. I'm like goddamn Megaman up in here.

This is terrible timing for me- training for new weekend responsibilities and I'll have to grill in the dark now. Reading...

Ricochet wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 1:40 am Spacedaisy, Epignosis, what's the take on Boquise, that you voted him?

I don't know how certain things exist simultaneously in his mind. It's like he says one thing and contradicts it in the very next post. I quoted a few posts. Doesn't matter because I'm moving my vote somewhere else anyway.

Skipped wall posts in the interest of time and the rest of what I sped through was jumbled anyway.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:55 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Nov 17, 2022 6:54 pm Skipped wall posts in the interest of time and the rest of what I sped through was jumbled anyway.
Most of it my jumble I'm sure. Where are you voting?

I read through TonyStarkPrime and cannot name one opinion that guy has. Don't mind piling on. [VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

I'll be here after my shift. Fridays suck.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:44 pm @Epignosis Was your kill a function of your role, or was it a gift or something else?

Original role.

I'm off in an hour.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:48 pm Why isn’t Epi dead?

Good genes + never doing anything remotely exciting.

Why do you think I should be dead?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 9:07 pm Also, can we please have some more activity this day overall? That would help. I realize people are busy and stuff. I'm just saying.

I'm busy feeding my kids in this economy. I'm here now.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:58 pm Because you are the person who looks most solidly town. I fully expected that you would die last night.

It seems like everyone has some combination of Rico in their solve. I'm willing to put a vote there for now, see what happens. [VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

I cleared myself (unless you believe mafia got a free kill in a JJJ designed game).

As long as there's a kill, there's no reason to ask why I'm still alive. The answer to that is that mafia picked someone else.

[VOTE: lucy] aubergine

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:36 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:34 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 10:58 pm Because you are the person who looks most solidly town. I fully expected that you would die last night.

It seems like everyone has some combination of Rico in their solve. I'm willing to put a vote there for now, see what happens. [VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine
I cleared myself (unless you believe mafia got a free kill in a JJJ designed game).

As long as there's a kill, there's no reason to ask why I'm still alive. The answer to that is that mafia picked someone else.
roles were made independent of alignment and there's 2 conf town killing roles...

One alignment was given to me and I know what it is so I don't care.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:47 pm Who thinks TripleHaven and Moonwink are phonies right off the bat?
both wrong

I asked a question. I didn't make a statement.

Is the sky blue?

"HE'S WRONG!"

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:18 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:39 am @Epignosis do you have thoughts on any other slots beyond my own? specifically triple and dizzy?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:58 pm At this moment I'm not voting for Rico, Spacedaisy, Martin, or Trips.
I don't have an opinion formed on Dyslexicon, but I don't think I've ever had one Day 1.
now what is it?

Good. I have one issue that will resolve itself soon.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:41 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:58 pm At this moment I'm not voting for Rico, Spacedaisy, Martin, or Trips.

I'm currently fine with my present vote.
and it becomes a bit yikers. Still think that Epi is town but not vibing with this townlist
Can't be all that bad, can it?

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pmspacedaisy continues to be town

hmmmmmm

Yes? Continue.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:42 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Nov 16, 2022 12:55 am Day 1 Mafia in a vacuum is Spacedaisy, Dyslexicon, and Ricochet.
hmmmmmm

Look, if you want to vote me, vote me. You aren't Geralt of Rivia.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:43 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:38 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:37 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:47 pm Who thinks TripleHaven and Moonwink are phonies right off the bat?
both wrong
I asked a question. I didn't make a statement.

Is the sky blue?

"HE'S WRONG!"
you're a teacher, you know there's such a thing as wrong questions lmfao

This is false.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:44 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:42 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:41 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:58 pm At this moment I'm not voting for Rico, Spacedaisy, Martin, or Trips.

I'm currently fine with my present vote.
and it becomes a bit yikers. Still think that Epi is town but not vibing with this townlist
Can't be all that bad, can it?

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pmspacedaisy continues to be town

hmmmmmm
Yes? Continue.
have you played with dolby before?

No, I don't think so.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:47 pm
lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:41 pm
Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:58 pm At this moment I'm not voting for Rico, Spacedaisy, Martin, or Trips.

I'm currently fine with my present vote.
and it becomes a bit yikers. Still think that Epi is town but not vibing with this townlist
Can't be all that bad, can it?

Dolby wrote: ↑Mon Nov 14, 2022 5:32 pmspacedaisy continues to be town

hmmmmmm
then this tr by dolby is so strange

Continue.

Or vote me. Cool.

lucy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 18, 2022 11:50 pm @Dyslexicon epig is a god read, sheep me, I am 100% confident

"A god read?"

Man. That's impressive. You'll have to show me how to do that some time.

I'm going to have a bourbon.

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

My vote is on Ricochet because he's going through the motions. Walls of text were so 2015.

I do not have a conviction there, but I will NOT wait until the last minute this time to vote like I did last time. My vote will be informed this round.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:08 am [VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

Here's my issue.

[VOTE: Lucy] aubergine

"No! What the fuck?" - Spectator chat.

Yes, I break the fourth wall in Mafia games.

Hi spec chat. How you doin?

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