The Syndicate

Off to bed. Shit ton to do tomorrow.

See, this is why I think Roxy's bad on top of everything. She assumes I'm ignoring her questions. Maybe I'm busy and didn't see them.

I am quite busy. So I'm just ignoring her, right?

Yet she can't be assed to repeat those same questions, and instead tells me to go look for them.

I have waited over 10 minutes to hear what questions I "ignored." I have looked over Roxy's posts to see if I have ignored any questions. I have not. If anyone sees a question from Roxy directed at me that I missed, then please repeat it. I'll answer it.

In the meantime, vote Roxy. That's a Cookie teammate.

Roxy wrote:Also how can they not pertain to you when it is your quote post I responded to?

And yep I am defensive bc I am civ

What questions did I ignore? I'll answer them.

Roxy wrote:Look the questions are right in my responses to you on this page.

There are no questions on this page now. Please just quote them. I'll answer them.

Roxy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Roxy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Roxy wrote:You think my reasoning stinks, fine. At least I had reasoning better than she was a burnt cookie. LOL Your stinks also. A fox always smells his own hole first.

My reasoning wasn't that she was a burnt cookie.

A fox always smells his own hole first because he presumably lives there.

I don't know why I bother.

Why are you only responding to certain portions of my responses?

...because those certain portions I didn't respond to didn't pertain to me.

I asked you questions you have ignored.

Linky why would I vote for you?

What questions did I ignore?

You're on the defensive Roxy. You can vote me if you want, but I am convinced you're naughty.

I'm not going to go back and forth with you. If you want, convince others to vote elsewhere.

Roxy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Roxy wrote:You think my reasoning stinks, fine. At least I had reasoning better than she was a burnt cookie. LOL Your stinks also. A fox always smells his own hole first.

My reasoning wasn't that she was a burnt cookie.

A fox always smells his own hole first because he presumably lives there.

I don't know why I bother.

Why are you only responding to certain portions of my responses?

...because those certain portions I didn't respond to didn't pertain to me.

I'm voting Roxy.

Roxy wrote:You think my reasoning stinks, fine. At least I had reasoning better than she was a burnt cookie. LOL Your stinks also. A fox always smells his own hole first.

My reasoning wasn't that she was a burnt cookie.

A fox always smells his own hole first because he presumably lives there.

I don't know why I bother.

The point is this: I brought up Cookie Day 1, and you weren't game. Fine. I get your thing about new people.

But your reason for voting Cookie stinks of a teammate. You couldn't help her Day 1, and you bussed her Day 2. I'm not letting that go right this moment.

I'm a little tired of "sorry you disagree how I play."

It's empty rhetoric.

And back to work. Nothing interesting here.

I'll probably vote Roxy or ika.

Taking a break.

DH needs a brain first, for you to pick it.

I have shit to do.

Here.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Cookie doesn't like being bad. It makes her uncomfortable.

Cookie feels she is a more accomplished and confident civilian.

Which jar do you think this Cookie falls into?

Cookie wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:Alright, game-related question for everyone:

What do folks make of DH's vote for Epi? Does it say anything about alignment for you, however small?

I have to get back to being frisky with my PhD work, so I'll be back at some point, IDK when.

Like SVS said, it could be a reaction. From a different angle, could also be very early bussing of a teammate? Could be just random, since that's what pretty much everyone will end up doing on Day 1. Too many possibilities to speculate.

Time will tell!

Naming all the possibilities that come to mind...doesn't answer the question.

I say this Cookie is foul, like a burnt peanut butter one that won't come off the pan.

Asking people the question isn't answering the question Epi.

What in her posts, gave you the impression she was uncomfortable?

Did Cookie look like a confident and accomplished player?

No.

Ergo, she was bad.

Simple.

DharmaHelper wrote:
Epignosis caught Cookie with absolutely no logical evidence, and a completely shit track record for hunting baddies (Harry Potter, Death Note)

On a semi-related subject, do I really have a shit track record for hunting Mafia?

I don't think I do. I do all right. You chose my worst game ever (HP) and a game I was independent in (DN) as evidence. I kicked ass in The Hobbit and Clue, only to be burned by Smaug at the end of the former and win in the latter.

I also called out Long Con Day 1 in Dom's game.

Yeah, I do okay.

No logical evidence, huh? What evidence did I use to vote for her? Illogical evidence?

Get back to me when you lynch Mafia this game. I don't even mind if you use blind luck to get you there.

DharmaHelper wrote:Epignosis, could you please describe in detail why you felt Cookie was "uncomfortable"? What, specifically, in her posts led you to believe she was not comfortable in her current role?

I didn't feel Cookie was uncomfortable. I knew Cookie was uncomfortable.

I already answered your second question Day 1.

DharmaHelper wrote:Can I ask what seems a more likely scenario to people:

Epignosis caught Cookie with absolutely no logical evidence, and a completely shit track record for hunting baddies (Harry Potter, Death Note)

Or Epignosis, knowing Cookie didn't want to be on the mafia team, bussed her for the credit.

Congratulations. You graduated Mutual Exclusives 101, except, you didn't.

Some of us are busy doing things.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It gets worse.

I say we vote out DharmaHelper now to stop this atrociousness.

Who is with me?

Nah lets not

Your song choices suck.

I hope MP doesn't invite you to the wedding.

So, when did you decide to bus Cookie?

Come on dude.

Sing Mr. Bojangles or I'm voting for your ass.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It gets worse.

I say we vote out DharmaHelper now to stop this atrociousness.

Who is with me?

Nah lets not

Your song choices suck.

I hope MP doesn't invite you to the wedding.

It gets worse.

I say we vote out DharmaHelper now to stop this atrociousness.

Who is with me?

DharmaHelper wrote:Smells like a sound, I'm lost in the crowd, I'm on the hunt I'm after you.

Duran Duran?

Damn.

Timmer flipped?

Roxy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Roxy.

She likes new players and I think Cookie would appeal to her.

The "I will vote for anyone voting new players" angle (which Roxy does take regularly) turned into voting MetalMarsh89 for 3 votes when Cookie had 2 ("I broke the tie!"). She could have broken the Cookie Day 1. She didn't because of dogma.

The refusal to vote new players despite evidence is dogma, Roxy. Dogma.

She cast a wide net Day 2 ("I could vote any of these people") and ended up voting Cookie after I tipped the scales.

I feel confident Roxy is bad.

You cast a pretty wide net yourself. There is more than one baddie this game I try not to limit my suspicion to one player.
Tough shit about Day 1. Its how I play. It is who I am as a person. I will not change. The evidence you provided Day 1 just did not prick my interest. It was her flip floppy-ness on Timmer that I found so strange. I questioned her beginning with my "wide net" post you are referring to bc I linky'd with her while making it.

That isn't a wide net. Those are my opinions on new people, publicly relayed. Notice that I did not say "Here's a list of people I could vote for," as you did. After posting my thinking, I concluded that Saberfish was the most suspicious of the group (followed by Cookie and TinyBubbles). I elected not to vote for Saberfish, and then voted Cookie again.

Regardless of how wide my net was, I caught a fishy.

Roxy wrote:After my questioning my list narrowed here:

Roxy wrote:For me it is Made or Cookie.

Your post six minutes after that is this:

Roxy wrote:just read Mades posts and it really does not read like joking. so iunno

This implies that you hadn't read Made's posts before narrowing it between Cookie and Made.

Before that, you don't really mention Made at all, except to say that you won't vote for him (Day 1), that his vote for timmer is "quite odd."

Of note is that both Made and Cookie were turning points based on their timmer takes. Cookie you went after for backing off, Made for voting.

Roxy wrote:Epi - you knew she hated being mafia. I could see you bus her but I do agree it is more likely you would have helped her.
I guess you think I am a shitty player that could offer her no advice or help her in anyway if I had bts with her. That I would have let her flop around without help while helping to drive her lynch.

The implication of the underlined is this: Cookie's teammates, whoever they may be, are shitty players because they "could offer her no advice or help her in" any way. I realize that you don't mean that, but that is what you imply here. At worst, it's emotional manipulation.

No. I don't think you are a shitty player.

What you did do is save her Day 1 by voting Metalmarsh89, and then vote Cookie late on Day 2. If you're on a team, you tried to help her. Day 2, you realized there was a good chance she was going down and, due to her loud, personal defeatism in BTSC I suspect, realized there was no chance helping her more than you had.

So no, I would see you as a teammate who tried her best and it just wasn't good enough.

Better yet, when Cookie came into chat complaining about being bad again, what did you say to her?

I would like to hear nijuukyugou's take on Roxy and vice versa.

Roxy.

She likes new players and I think Cookie would appeal to her.

The "I will vote for anyone voting new players" angle (which Roxy does take regularly) turned into voting MetalMarsh89 for 3 votes when Cookie had 2 ("I broke the tie!"). She could have broken the Cookie Day 1. She didn't because of dogma.

The refusal to vote new players despite evidence is dogma, Roxy. Dogma.

She cast a wide net Day 2 ("I could vote any of these people") and ended up voting Cookie after I tipped the scales.

I feel confident Roxy is bad.

It's dangerous to go alone. Take this:

Semicolon.

;

Use that between two independent but related clauses. It will save you.

Comma splice.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Matter of fact, Mr. Watchman Host, wouldn't you know first hand Cookie hates being mafia, and wouldn't you be 100% willing to bus her given that fact?

No offense to Sloonei, ika, espers, and Cookie, but that was the biggest trainwreck of a Mafia I have ever witnessed in my time hosting.

Cookie hates being Mafia and likes guidance and advice. I would have offered it aplenty. All day. Not to sound rude, but I would have told her exactly what I wanted her to do.

Bussing Simon? That's weak. Having played Breaking Bad, I would have bussed Killface, not Simon.

Who out o the late Cookie voters would you most peg as her teammate

Late? Why do they have to be late?

My vote is probably going to you tomorrow, for defending Cookie, voting early twice, and being an all-around Grade-A dumbass who thinks broken cocks are good things (must be a Tim Drake fetish).

DharmaHelper wrote:Matter of fact, Mr. Watchman Host, wouldn't you know first hand Cookie hates being mafia, and wouldn't you be 100% willing to bus her given that fact?

No offense to Sloonei, ika, espers, and Cookie, but that was the biggest trainwreck of a Mafia I have ever witnessed in my time hosting.

Cookie hates being Mafia and likes guidance and advice. I would have offered it aplenty. All day. Not to sound rude, but I would have told her exactly what I wanted her to do.

Bussing Simon? That's weak. Having played Breaking Bad, I would have bussed Killface, not Simon.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Cookie targeted G-Man with insanity, who had effectively targeted his own dayum self.

G-Man wanted to lynch Made based on the insanity-8ball talk.

I think G-Man is Mafia. He needs to be lynched.

Lmao. I thought Made was mafia?

Where did I say that?

Cookie targeted G-Man with insanity, who had effectively targeted his own dayum self.

G-Man wanted to lynch Made based on the insanity-8ball talk.

I think G-Man is Mafia. He needs to be lynched.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Well a broken cock is right twice a day.

Some broken clocks don't even have hands, dipshit.

I said what I meant and I meant what I said.

Now I gotta go back and look over my kickass vote analysis to see who voted to save Cookie.

Nobody voted to save Cookie.

Cookie hates being Mafia.

Bet some voted for her.

Go find a broken one to repair...with your mouth.

DharmaHelper wrote:Well a broken cock is right twice a day.

Some broken clocks don't even have hands, dipshit.

Mumble mumble.

I'd beat that kid's ass.

One day you'll be good Cookie!

5 missing votes. Off by 2.

If Cookie is Xander Crews, I'll fling poo.

Cookie wrote:Well damn guys :/
Why is everyone voting for me for being flip floppy? Nearly everyone changes their suspicions against someone at some point. (Look at Timmer, he suspected SVS and that suspicion changed with no real reasoning from Timmer).

This is such a town loss if I die.

@Epi - Probably not.

I voted for you because you talked up your civilian game while bemoaning being bad.

I saw nothing to validate that former claim. It has led me to believe that you are not a civilian.

And if you are, then I know you're not as good as you claimed.

Roxy wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Brace yourselves, Death Note jokes are coming.

No they aren't.

Why not??

Four minutes to get four votes elsewhere Cookie...can you do it?

DharmaHelper wrote:Brace yourselves, Death Note jokes are coming.

No they aren't.

Saberfish wrote:I'm voting for Cookie; them being flip-floppy about Timmer is enough for me.

You sure you aren't killfish?

Maybe others should put votes on someone else to-

ah nevermind.

Hi ika.

Here to give us some poker advice?

I voted Cookie. I stand by my claims.

It's why I asked Saberfish how many he's played. He said none online.

S~V~S wrote:

Roxy wrote:

sig wrote:We only have thirty minuets, again to those who haven't voted I think Saber is mafia if I'm wrong it gets us much closer to catching Killer. At this point we already have a smallish pool of who killer could be and lynching Saber would decrease that, I find his earlier vote to be suspicious, and as I said I really do believe he is mafia. I'm not sure about Made so I would prefer not having him lynched I would need to read more of his posts and the arguments to lynch him, but I could be fine with a Cookie lynch as well, not as happy as a Saber lynch, but it would be okay since he has pinged me. However, at this point I don't think we should lynch MP I don't see any strategic advantage of lynching him, over Saber.

You don't think he claimed xtcle?

Role claims? On day 1?

From a new person.

Roxy wrote:I am so tempted to vote MP even though it wouldn't be fair as he has not had time to respond or interact properly.

Epi - if you do think it is a claim - who are you looking at to vote? What do you think of Cookie now?

ika. Two days of uselessness.

Cookie I will vote.

Timmer I will vote too.

So I'm in a place where I can sit back and see what everyone else does. If anything.

sig annoys me. "if I'm wrong it gets us much closer to catching Killer." *Slow clap*

Saberfish is new and, in a way that a new person would do, claimed Xtacle.

I'm reconsidering and I think those of you who jumped on what I had to say without adding to it smell.