The Syndicate

Yeah, she's not reading the thread at all.

Sloonei wrote:Thank Epi. We'll lynch sig after you.

Day 2.

sig wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

sig wrote:I don't like this huge bandwagon on gleam, espacilly since nobody has ever actually explained their suspicion of him, or if they have I don't remember it.

I've got a slight mafia gut read on Wilgy.

Also I find it odd how quite Zebra/LC seem to be this game.

What turns your gut Sig?

i'm not sure, your tone seems a little off and all your talk about mechanics seems odd.

Diiny flipped civ. The only other three who could've been lynched was Gleam, Golden, and Wilgy. I still believe someone who was about to be lynched was a cop. Or I could be totally wrong and the cops are kicking back and not doing anything.

This is a reiteration of sig's anti-gleam bandwagon, one he would join in time. In the same post, sig names Wilgy, Zebra, and LC. When Wilgy asks for specifics, sig's response is vague. The most important thing about this post, though, is that sig "believes" that one of gleam ( ), Golden, and Wilgy is a cop, but then negates his view with "Or I could be totally wrong." Ultimately, this is a post that says nothing.

sig wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:

sig wrote:I don't like Nero's vote what so ever. It seems like he picked a player who already had two votes. I think one of the other people with two votes is a cop, and Nero switched his vote to save them.

That´s a little far-fetched. We are supposed to catch baddies here, and in that moment Chaindeath seemed to me like the most scummy player. I was not happy with any of the major wagons, so I went with him. Do you believe both me and Ika(and the other players with two votes) are cops then? If so, why didn´t you vote for any of us?

I do agree with some of the above posters that Slooneis vote did seem like an act to save a teammate.

You sound very defensive here.

I said I think someone was mafia I didn't specifically said it was you, and I don't recall mentioning Ike at all so I find you bringing him up to be odd. You barely mentioned Chaindeath and your reason for voting him was weak. He was also one of the players who already had two votes so yes it does seem like you just put your vote down on someone who had votes.

linki: Zebra's silence is also strange and she said I was a civ read. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

So sig thinks Nero voted to save a cop (serious nod) but sig didn't say specifically that Nero is a cop. Okay then.

sig wrote:So I'm lost right know, everyone I've suspected seems to have countered my suspicions. I'm thinking maybe the mafia are laying low and not really posting?

I've got an off gut feeling from Epi and Wilgy, but I can't explain it at all. I still don't see the gleam or Ike case.

linki: yeah why Sloonie?

sig wrote:Voting Epignosis for the time. I don't have much to go on, but I've got a bad gut read of him, I also don't see the gleam lynch what so ever. I think between Gleam and Ika, Ika is more likely to be bad.

sig names me, and then votes for me "for the time."

N.b. the underlined: sig doesn't see the gleam lynch whatsoever.

sig wrote:Wow why Fuzz this makes no sense I think this is a baddie driven CFD to save a teammate, notice almost the same people are up for lynches today as yesterday? I stand by my theory that one was mafia and that we had some minor save last phase, I think we are seeing a much bigger save attempt this phase. With a mafia team thhis big a CFD is easy to pull off I think this is scum driven to save one of the three leading people. Most likely Ike or Epi.

Can someone give me any reason for the Fuzz lynch?

I also really dislike DDL switch and his reasons. I actually am agreeing with Llama about him what about a Dragon lycnh?

linki: DDL and Golden are my top two scum reads, either Ike or Epi are there partners. Possibly Wilgy as well.

This is when people began to lynch RadicalFuzz. sig's reaction is that cops are trying to save someone, and he names Ika and me, when in fact sig was the one trying to save Fuzz.

sig wrote:The fact that the Gleam wagon exploded at the beginning of the phase with almost no explanation to being gone and another wagon popping up ijust as fast is insane. I bet Fuzz will flip civ, you'll attempt to lead a Gleam lynch tomorrow and they will flip civ. I know firmly believe one of the other two front runners is a cop.

This is a hard defense of Fuzz, but it is also another claim that gleam is a civilian, a civilian sig will vote for Day 4.

sig wrote:I also find it very odd Golden doesn't want to lynch Ike a new player but suggested a CFD onto Serge another new player?

This is casting doubt on Golden's intentions.

sig wrote:Why would mafia Fuzz pop in at endgame and vote Ike unless he was saving Gleam/Epi if this was the case why ditch both those wagons? This is the scummiest CFD since the one I lead to stop me from getting lynched when I was almost confirmed mafia

@Epi he didn't

"This is the worst thing in the history of the world."

sig wrote:That isn't enough to lynch him though.

Linkie that is a good reason a scum wagon even if it is a CFD never develops this quickly. Also the reasons for the Fuzz lynch makes zero sense.

"That isn't enough to lynch him though."

sig wrote:Voting Epignosis for the time. I don't have much to go on, but I've got a bad gut read of him, I also don't see the gleam lynch what so ever. I think between Gleam and Ika, Ika is more likely to be bad.

What Fuzz did wasn't enough to lynch him for, but a "bad gut read" and not wanting a gleam lynch whatsoever is enough to lynch me. No sir.

sig wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

sig wrote:That isn't enough to lynch him though.

Linkie that is a good reason a scum wagon even if it is a CFD never develops this quickly. Also the reasons for the Fuzz lynch makes zero sense.

What are the reasons for the Fuzz lynch?

He voted for ike after saying he wasn't going to discuss ike/Silver correct? I believe Baddie Fuzz wouldn't slip like that. I think this is the mafia finding a weak reason and freaking everyone out.

sig wrote:Someoen explain the Fuzz thing to me please if you bring a good point maybe I'd vote that way though Im not seeing anything

Rarely if ever do experienced players slip like that. Everytime I've "slipped" it turned out mafia was behind my lynch the same is happening here for Fuzz.

This is a defense of Fuzz based on what sig "thinks" Fuzz would or would not do.

sig wrote:Ika

inki: So did I .

By the apparent vote tally, ika should have been lynched, and fortunately that didn't happen. ika was saved...

ika
8
Quin (8), Silverwolf (9), sig (10), Soneji (12), Boomslang (15), chaindeath (18), Black Rock (19), Turnip Head (20) 38%

...for a while.

When Fuzz got lynched:

sig wrote:oops lol, guess I was wrong. However, I'm not mafia I believed the Wagon on lynch developed to quickly to be real.

oops lol indeed.

sig, I hope your department-issued shoes are comfortable ones, because I'm coming for your life.

Here be a summary of sig:

sig wrote:I don't like Enrique's vote. Please explain Enrique?

Second post.

Diiny
4
Enrique (9), agleaminranks (19), sig (21), DrWilgy (28) 14%

First vote.

sig wrote:

Sloonei wrote:sig and enrique's names have been hanging out at the bottom of the page for a while but neither of them are saying anything. No one likes a tattle tale, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

This is scummy, and very pingy. Since I've had the tab up and haven't talked it must mean something? You bringing this up is very very troubling.

Could someone brief me on the Golden and Gleam case? It seems Wilgy is voting for him mainly based on tone? Yet I've got no idea why people are voting for Gleam.

I'll be moving my vote from Chain seeing how he has posted, but not sure who to yet.

I don't agree with Sloonei's post either (I am logged in almost all day, and I often leave tabs open to keep my place), but sig's reaction is an over-the-top accusation.

sig says he'll be moving his vote, but isn't sure where it will be going.

In the same breath, he called Sloonei's post "scummy," "very pingy," and "very very troubling," but doesn't know where to vote.

sig wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

sig wrote:

Nerolunar wrote:
@ Sig I find it suspicious that you reacted so violently and defensive towards Sloonei pointing out you were lurking.

I didn't react violently, I did react defensively yes since usually accusing someone of being present and lurking is followed by someone saying it is pingy, then BAM Sig gets lynched and there is no more Sig.

but why did you say i was scummy for pointing it out?

Since it doesn't seem like something a civ would do this early, espacilly since both of us have posted. Also as I already said, this seemed like a starter attempt to get sig lynched and sig doesn't like to get lynched.

This is sig's explanation. Compare the adverbs and adjectives in the previous post with his explanation here, that what he said was only self-preservation. It doesn't match up.

sig wrote:I've got a negative gut read if Diiny, his playstyle is reminding me of West Wing on RYM when we where baddies. I don't like how much he is switching his opinion as DDL pointed out.

Could someone explain to me the reasons for voting for Ike? Is this because of his early pressure vote on Silverwolf? Since that seems to be a main point agaisnt him and as I said I firmly believe that is a cultural thing.

sig wrote:This threesome is confusing me to? I'm finding myself suspicious of all three right know, Diiny the most out of the three though.

I know for a fact I don't like the Ika/Gleam wagons. Besides that I don't have much to add.

sig wrote:

Golden wrote:

sig wrote:I don't like Nero's vote what so ever. It seems like he picked a player who already had two votes. I think one of the other people with two votes is a cop, and Nero switched his vote to save them.

Unfortunately that doesn't narrow things down much.

Not by much, but it does by a bit.

I switched my vote to diiny I've already given some reasons before, DDL made some good points and I've also got a bad gut read of him. He seems to be playing the same way he did in West Wing when we where mafia together.

I've quoted these posts for two reasons. First, sig doesn't "like Nero's vote what so ever [sic]," but not enough to, you know, vote the guy.

Second, and more importantly, sig doesn't like the ika or gleam wagons.

ika
9
Quin (5), Nerolunar (6), agleaminranks (11), Soneji (12), Serge (14), RadicalFuzz (16), Enrique (23), Long Con (28), sig (29) 31%

agleaminranks
9
Sloonei (15), Silverwolf (16), Golden (18), ika (19), sig (20), Dragon D. Luffy (22), Scotty (23), indiglo (24), Turnip Head (25) 36%

Hoo boy.

The overall theme of sig's posts is that he is more interested in staying alive and not in finding cops.

This is Day 1. I'll post a period at a time, because I'm going to be back and forth today.

Dat basketball money.

I'm off all week. Tomorrow I am going to read through sig and Quin. I still think sig should be lynched.

I agree with this.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Snore.

I've worked out why you're still around, if that's exciting enough to rouse you from your slumber.

By all means, let me have it.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Baddies

The Police (6)

Share BTSC. Win when all of The Daisy Crime Syndicate and The Sockfaced Famiglia are either dead or arrested.

They don't need you out to win. You're not a member of either of the named groups. You could be, had you started with the rest of us, but you didn't.

MovingPictures07 wrote:7. All role power PMs must be sent in by the player utilizing the power. No relying on BTSCmates (if you have any) to send in your power.

The arresting cop is sending in the PMs. None have been missed.

This means the cops are on top of their shit. Time to reassess.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Snore.

I've worked out why you're still around, if that's exciting enough to rouse you from your slumber.

Yeah, well, basketball this weekend alone is paying for half of our family vacation this summer. And just for that, you can't go with us.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'm about to mount a massive case against Epignosis.

Cool.

This post is what I'm talking about.
Therefore:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:At this point, I'm willing to leave Epi alone until someone new joins the discussion. Foremost, I want him to have time in this thread to hunt for himself instead of answer to those hunting him. Epi, your voice does carry weight in the tally, and I'm listening. Who needs to die?

Hang tight.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'm afraid that if you're going to be lynched, it is unlikely to happen on Day 8 (I wouldn't endorse it with Boomslang alive). So you might have to endure more questions for the time being. It is the job of civilians to try their best to figure out your alignment, even if that means being repetitive.

I don't mind questions. I do mind ones I've answered fourteen times.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Get your heads out of your asses. If you're going to drum a lynch on me, do it quickly an quit wasting my time.

Yes, every interrogation means a lynch is impending. If we're on the same team here then your time is our time too, so the notion that it's being "wasted" is pure crap and I don't care if you feel that way.

I know my role, so a lynch against me is wasted time.

But you just asked us to stop wasting time by hurrying up with your lynch, so what sense does that make?

I'm not going to waste my time defending myself again and again over the same things I've said twelve times. If you're going to lynch me, do it. You won't catch a cop, but hey.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Get your heads out of your asses. If you're going to drum a lynch on me, do it quickly an quit wasting my time.

Yes, every interrogation means a lynch is impending. If we're on the same team here then your time is our time too, so the notion that it's being "wasted" is pure crap and I don't care if you feel that way.

I know my role, so a lynch against me is wasted time.

I despise my keyboard.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:No, I was never going to vote Fuzz- I don't care the reason if I haven't read myself.

You cared enough to ask.

Epignosis wrote:I'm behind seven pages. Catching up before the deadline isn't going to happen. Can someone give me a summary of Fuzz? What'd he do?

Then three minutes later you dropped the weakest vote I've ever seen from you. That's not great.

Epignosis wrote:If you don't believe my story, ask Eloh. She was the reason we were late getting home. She went out with ladies, and for the first time ever, I had to drive her home from an outing.

Nobody is disputing that you were behind or why you were behind. The question is whether a civilian Epignosis would squirm timidly away from an opportunity to decide a lynch just because he wasn't 100% caught up with the thread.

I cared enough to ask. Not to vote.

Did I squirm timidly away?

Would I do that if I were bad?

Nah.

Get your heads out of your asses. If you're going to drum a lynch on me, do it quickly an quit wasting my time.

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Another thing that's bugging me about Epi is, of course, that Day 2 vote. Look at these posts:

Epignosis wrote:I ain't having a tie, so I'll be breaking this bad boy as soon as I finish reading this shit and make up my mind. I have twelve minutes.

Which doesn't look like it's going to happen because I cannot friggin post.

Addendum: Fuck!

Addendum: Fucking hell!

Addendum: Please stop posting.

Addendum: No, seriously. Just for a second.

Addendum:

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:If there's anyone like me that isn't feeling good about either an ika or a Fuzz lynch, please switch your vote to Epi.

a2thezebra

There. You finally got a reaction.

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I still want to know why Epi voted for zebra yesterday. He was there at the end but cast an outlier vote.

linki: speak of the devil!

I don't understand how this is such a mystery. I came home under the assumption that I would be voting to save myself. I ended up not having to do that, but I still had seven pages to read and people kept posting and posting. So I voted to give zebra a reaction.

In general, I hate ties (unless I create them ), but there was no way I was going to be able to make an informed decision in fifteen minutes. So I stayed out. To say I was "there at the end" is misleading. I was online, but seven pages behind.

He says he's gonna break a tie, then doesn't break the tie and avoids the lynch entirely, then acts all incredulous when his entirely meaningless vote is called into question.

Total fucking mystery right there.

That was a weak vote. You asked questions about Fuzz, those questions were answered, you responded by not participating in the lynch.

I came home late after picking up Eloh thinking I needed to vote to save myself. That turned out not to be the case, but everybody was posting and I couldn't keep up. No, I was never going to vote Fuzz- I don't care the reason if I haven't read myself.

If you don't believe my story, ask Eloh. She was the reason we were late getting home. She went out with ladies, and for the first time ever, I had to drive her home from an outing.

Sloonei wrote:Another thing that's bugging me about Epi is, of course, that Day 2 vote. Look at these posts:

Epignosis wrote:I ain't having a tie, so I'll be breaking this bad boy as soon as I finish reading this shit and make up my mind. I have twelve minutes.

Which doesn't look like it's going to happen because I cannot friggin post.

Addendum: Fuck!

Addendum: Fucking hell!

Addendum: Please stop posting.

Addendum: No, seriously. Just for a second.

Addendum:

Epignosis wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:If there's anyone like me that isn't feeling good about either an ika or a Fuzz lynch, please switch your vote to Epi.

a2thezebra

There. You finally got a reaction.

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I still want to know why Epi voted for zebra yesterday. He was there at the end but cast an outlier vote.

linki: speak of the devil!

I don't understand how this is such a mystery. I came home under the assumption that I would be voting to save myself. I ended up not having to do that, but I still had seven pages to read and people kept posting and posting. So I voted to give zebra a reaction.

In general, I hate ties (unless I create them ), but there was no way I was going to be able to make an informed decision in fifteen minutes. So I stayed out. To say I was "there at the end" is misleading. I was online, but seven pages behind.

He says he's gonna break a tie, then doesn't break the tie and avoids the lynch entirely, then acts all incredulous when his entirely meaningless vote is called into question.

Total fucking mystery right there.

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:You told us that you regularly survive late into Full games. This is meant to make us unconcerned with the question of "Why is Epi still here?" while not actually addressing anything immediately relevant. You then mentioned that you are more often scum than town when this happens. Thank you for the delicious WIFOM, and thank you again for hiding behind it to say you're not making yourself look good.

Yes, I told you that, because the assumption was that I don't make it far in any games. I do, just not Speed games. I didn't say that- the Prisoner did. I went into the museum to see how I did.

No, I'm not going to speculate on why I'm still here. Sorry. Not happening. It's pointless for me to do so. I'm not a cop, and I've not been lynched or arrested.

I am more often bad than good when I win, not survive. Two different things.

I am not asking you to speculate on why you're still here. I'm just saying that your initial response to the question of why you're still here indicated that you were trying to address the question, but you did so only indirectly. Since then you've changed course and said that ANY sort of speculation on it is useless. If this was the case from the beginning, why did you have to bring up past games at all? Couldn't you have just told the Prisoner to shut up?

Nope. I would never ever be that rude.

You've effectively told us it's a useless subject to discuss in every post since then. But you answered it at first, and seemed to engage in the exercise.

Out of personal curiosity.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I don't understand what you're asking me. My syntax makes perfect sense to me- can you explain another way?

Epignosis wrote:Point A:

Neither this time about.

Point B:

Mafia are not paying attention. You're still here. I don't think they realize they can arrest you.

Point A and Point B would seem to be irrelevant to one another, but they were put together in your post in such a way as to give the appearance that they are connected.

I think when you divorce my answer from your question, you lose meaning. "Neither this time about" means I'm not bad and I'm not shitty.

The rest is a separate idea on the same subject (who gets night killed?). There have been obvious cop targets for days, and those aren't happening. When I say "obvious," I mean people vouching for each other. S~V~S can tell you, when I'm bad, I want the people with BTSC out immediately. I tried to take down her entire independent faction based on this.

Let me know if I'm still speaking Chinese here.

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:You told us that you regularly survive late into Full games. This is meant to make us unconcerned with the question of "Why is Epi still here?" while not actually addressing anything immediately relevant. You then mentioned that you are more often scum than town when this happens. Thank you for the delicious WIFOM, and thank you again for hiding behind it to say you're not making yourself look good.

Yes, I told you that, because the assumption was that I don't make it far in any games. I do, just not Speed games. I didn't say that- the Prisoner did. I went into the museum to see how I did.

No, I'm not going to speculate on why I'm still here. Sorry. Not happening. It's pointless for me to do so. I'm not a cop, and I've not been lynched or arrested.

I am more often bad than good when I win, not survive. Two different things.

I am not asking you to speculate on why you're still here. I'm just saying that your initial response to the question of why you're still here indicated that you were trying to address the question, but you did so only indirectly. Since then you've changed course and said that ANY sort of speculation on it is useless. If this was the case from the beginning, why did you have to bring up past games at all? Couldn't you have just told the Prisoner to shut up?

Nope. I would never ever be that rude.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Mafia are not paying attention.

What does this have to do with you?

It doesn't have anything to do with me. You asked if I'm bad or bad (my wording). My response was neither. I don't put any stock in why I stay alive or why I die. If Mafia were paying attention, they would have arrested you the moment they realized they could. Yet you're still here. What am I to make from that?

This would mean you're asking me to read your statement like this:

Epignosis wrote:Neither this time about. Mafia are not paying attention. You're still here. I don't think they realize they can arrest you.

Instead of like this:

Epignosis wrote:Neither this time about. Mafia are not paying attention. You're still here. I don't think they realize they can arrest you.

I am doubtful that the former was your original intent, which is to say that I am unable to follow your thought process. I see "mafia are not paying attention because you're still here" as an expansion upon the "neither this time about" answer to my previous question. Otherwise you've given me to unrelated thoughts right next to one another in a confusing syntax that I would not associate with Epignosis.

I don't understand what you're asking me. My syntax makes perfect sense to me- can you explain another way?

Sloonei wrote:You told us that you regularly survive late into Full games. This is meant to make us unconcerned with the question of "Why is Epi still here?" while not actually addressing anything immediately relevant. You then mentioned that you are more often scum than town when this happens. Thank you for the delicious WIFOM, and thank you again for hiding behind it to say you're not making yourself look good.

Yes, I told you that, because the assumption was that I don't make it far in any games. I do, just not Speed games. I didn't say that- the Prisoner did. I went into the museum to see how I did.

No, I'm not going to speculate on why I'm still here. Sorry. Not happening. It's pointless for me to do so. I'm not a cop, and I've not been lynched or arrested.

I am more often bad than good when I win, not survive. Two different things.

Sloonei wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Did you want me to answer? Why do you think I'm still here?

I don't care if you answer or not. Don't have at me for not answering though.

I don't know why you're still here. Are you a Don? Don't answer that.

I'm more coming at you for answering one half of the question but not the other half. To me it looks like you're trying to appeal to the past to reassure skeptical townies about you rather than addressing things in the present.

"Why are you still here?" is a stupid question to ask someone. It's a cloudy accusation that you can't defend against if you're a player who doesn't make it far. You don't know why you're here. I don't know why I'm here.

Sorry- dumbass thing to speculate. I'm here because I didn't get arrested or lynched yet. That's why.

Do you want to lynch me?

But you still attempted to answer it and give a justification as to why you're alive, you just did it by explaining that this happens a lot, like you're just trying to brush it off by telling us not to worry about you. That makes me worry about you. I might want to lynch you. We have quite a few bad guys left to lynch and a shrinking list of candidates. You're definitely not exempt.

I think this qualifies as a point raised. I could state it more pointedly if you want:

I think you cited past games to move the conversation to an area that's safer for you. Rather than discussing this game, you chose to response to the prisoner's questions by appealing to the past in a way that can make you look good.

Please explain to me how my response makes me look good. With one exception, I only win full games when I'm bad. Go.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Mafia are not paying attention.

What does this have to do with you?

It doesn't have anything to do with me. You asked if I'm bad or bad (my wording). My response was neither. I don't put any stock in why I stay alive or why I die. If Mafia were paying attention, they would have arrested you the moment they realized they could. Yet you're still here. What am I to make from that?

Sloonei wrote:Do you think my concern and the point I just raised against you are legitimate and sensible?

You didn't raise a point against me. You asked me a couple of questions.

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Did you want me to answer? Why do you think I'm still here?

I don't care if you answer or not. Don't have at me for not answering though.

I don't know why you're still here. Are you a Don? Don't answer that.

I'm more coming at you for answering one half of the question but not the other half. To me it looks like you're trying to appeal to the past to reassure skeptical townies about you rather than addressing things in the present.

"Why are you still here?" is a stupid question to ask someone. It's a cloudy accusation that you can't defend against if you're a player who doesn't make it far. You don't know why you're here. I don't know why I'm here.

Sorry- dumbass thing to speculate. I'm here because I didn't get arrested or lynched yet. That's why.

Do you want to lynch me?

But you still attempted to answer it and give a justification as to why you're alive, you just did it by explaining that this happens a lot, like you're just trying to brush it off by telling us not to worry about you. That makes me worry about you. I might want to lynch you. We have quite a few bad guys left to lynch and a shrinking list of candidates. You're definitely not exempt.

Who is exempt?

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I don't know what "a while" means, so I'm going to be comprehensive:

On the Syndicate in full games, I've been a civilian six times, won once. I've been Mafia five times, won thrice. I've been independent four times (wow, didn't realize that), and won once as a recruit (started out as a civilian).

In all of those cases, I lasted until the late half of the game, except in Monty Python, when I was a serial killer and killed early.

Thanks.

You suggested earlier that when you've survived later into a game it has meant that you're either bad (aligned) or bad (at lynching baddies). Do you think the latter applies in this game, and if so what have your errors/failures been?

Neither this time about. Mafia are not paying attention. You're still here. I don't think they realize they can arrest you.

Then again, they arrested llama and indiglo, which I think was smart.

****There were a few special cases. In WWE I was Hulk Hogan, civilian killer, but S~V~S's team had me figured out early on and serial blocked me. Also, Harry Potter everybody knows about.

Since we're playing this inane game, why do you think you are still alive?

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Did you want me to answer? Why do you think I'm still here?

I don't care if you answer or not. Don't have at me for not answering though.

I don't know why you're still here. Are you a Don? Don't answer that.

I'm more coming at you for answering one half of the question but not the other half. To me it looks like you're trying to appeal to the past to reassure skeptical townies about you rather than addressing things in the present.

"Why are you still here?" is a stupid question to ask someone. It's a cloudy accusation that you can't defend against if you're a player who doesn't make it far. You don't know why you're here. I don't know why I'm here.

Sorry- dumbass thing to speculate. I'm here because I didn't get arrested or lynched yet. That's why.

Do you want to lynch me?

Sloonei wrote:Did you want me to answer? Why do you think I'm still here?

I don't care if you answer or not. Don't have at me for not answering though.

I don't know why you're still here. Are you a Don? Don't answer that.

Epignosis wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Not in speed games, no, but I last a long time in full games. In all the full games I've played, I've made it past Day 8 in well over half of them.

In how many of those full games were you a civilian? Don't restrict yourself just to "lived until Day 8", but broaden it to "survived a while".

I'll have to look again. Let the Magic finish and I'll get back to you.

I don't know what "a while" means, so I'm going to be comprehensive:

On the Syndicate in full games, I've been a civilian six times, won once. I've been Mafia five times, won thrice. I've been independent four times (wow, didn't realize that), and won once as a recruit (started out as a civilian).

In all of those cases, I lasted until the late half of the game, except in Monty Python, when I was a serial killer and killed early.

Never mind. Magic blowing out the Bulls. Not interested.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Not in speed games, no, but I last a long time in full games. In all the full games I've played, I've made it past Day 8 in well over half of them.

In how many of those full games were you a civilian? Don't restrict yourself just to "lived until Day 8", but broaden it to "survived a while".

I'll have to look again. Let the Magic finish and I'll get back to you.

I underlined what I did to highlight Harry Potter and WWE- civilian in both, and left alone for most of the game to suck.

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I don't agree with your assumption. thellama73 vouched smugly for TH and without much reason. TH wasn't lynched.

True.

Epignosis wrote:I'm flying with simple explanations and will not be voting for Turnip Head.

Agreed.

Epignosis wrote:Still amazed you're still around.

Likewise. At least baddies can question my role in this game, literally to include what my night actions might be if any or even what my alignment is. Why do you think you're still here? You don't often see Day 8.

Not in speed games, no, but I last a long time in full games. In all the full games I've played, I've made it past Day 8 in well over half of them. I've only won once as a civilian in a full game- all other wins were Mafia. I'd prefer such statistics not be used against me.

Why is your natural response to refer to past games for rather than anything particular to this one?

The questioner alluded to past games. I looked at all the full games I've been in to see how long I lasted before I answered. I often see Day 8 in full games. It usually means I'm bad or I'm bad. Two different definitions on those adjectives. I'll let you work it out.

But he also asked why you're still around in this game right now and you didn't answer that part.

Neither did you.

It's idle speculation. I'm not going to guess why I'm still here. If you're not satisfied with my answer, I've won one full game as a civilian. I've won several as Mafia. So I usually win full games because I'm evil. I do last beyond Night 8, however, regardless of alignment.

Quin wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I might put Epi and sig ahead of chaindeath on the lynching block

What's your case for Epi? I am not opposed.

What's your case? I'm not opposed.

Sloonei wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I don't agree with your assumption. thellama73 vouched smugly for TH and without much reason. TH wasn't lynched.

True.

Epignosis wrote:I'm flying with simple explanations and will not be voting for Turnip Head.

Agreed.

Epignosis wrote:Still amazed you're still around.

Likewise. At least baddies can question my role in this game, literally to include what my night actions might be if any or even what my alignment is. Why do you think you're still here? You don't often see Day 8.

Not in speed games, no, but I last a long time in full games. In all the full games I've played, I've made it past Day 8 in well over half of them. I've only won once as a civilian in a full game- all other wins were Mafia. I'd prefer such statistics not be used against me.

Why is your natural response to refer to past games for rather than anything particular to this one?

The questioner alluded to past games. I looked at all the full games I've been in to see how long I lasted before I answered. I often see Day 8 in full games. It usually means I'm bad or I'm bad. Two different definitions on those adjectives. I'll let you work it out.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:I don't agree with your assumption. thellama73 vouched smugly for TH and without much reason. TH wasn't lynched.

True.

Epignosis wrote:I'm flying with simple explanations and will not be voting for Turnip Head.

Agreed.

Epignosis wrote:Still amazed you're still around.

Likewise. At least baddies can question my role in this game, literally to include what my night actions might be if any or even what my alignment is. Why do you think you're still here? You don't often see Day 8.

Not in speed games, no, but I last a long time in full games. In all the full games I've played, I've made it past Day 8 in well over half of them. I've only won once as a civilian in a full game- all other wins were Mafia. I'd prefer such statistics not be used against me.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:Assuming llama was specifically chosen for the kill by the chief, my immediate inclination is to assume it was intended to frame Quin, who has enough enemies remaining in the thread that him just killing a threat isn't a strategically viable solution as a baddie. indiglo being killed was likely the result of her being well out of lynch territory.

If you're a highly-trusted player and you're not dead, I recommend you re-calibrate your reads. Someone is probably letting you stick around because they expect you to do something detrimental to your team.

I don't agree with your assumption. thellama73 vouched smugly for TH and without much reason. TH wasn't lynched. I'm flying with simple explanations and will not be voting for Turnip Head.

Still amazed you're still around.

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:it's a square block in a round peg

I just realized I said this and punched myself in the face.

You're afraid to talk about holes. We get it.

Quin wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Quin wrote: I could build a time machine, I suppose, but that might take too long.

If you built a time machine, would the time it took you build it matter?

Now we're asking the real questions.

And fuck I didn't proofread before I wrote that. Kind sir, when you build your time machine, would you kindly go back right before my post, tap me on my shoulder, and say, "Mister, you forgot to write 'to.'"

Nah, don't worry about it.

SPRING BREAK BITCHRZ

Quin wrote: I could build a time machine, I suppose, but that might take too long.

If you built a time machine, would the time it took you build it matter?

Suggestion to the prisoner: Bump llama up to green and Eloh up to yellow.

I get the impression that Eloh is a warm, willing body (aw yeeeeah) who isn't going to be posting cases or blowing minds with revelations. Her vote suggests to me that she's going to follow the crowd and hope for a win. That alone doesn't speak to alignment, but I'm on the side of the fence that says she's aight. I understand if you maintain skepticism, but I'd pull her out of the red.

sig wrote:

Prisoner 509378 wrote:I might even call Sloonei's shift opportunistic, but if he's a bad guy then I will eat my shoe and my foot inside it directly off of my leg.

If he is a baddie I so called it.

That would be true of anybody.

I am literally the only person online on this site right now.

#Solonely

Prisoner 509378 wrote:

Epignosis wrote:Hey prisoner, you thrilled over this TH non-lynch?

Because I am.

Once I got over my initial reaction of "oh for f***s sake I hate lynch manipulation in all its forms" and realized what happened, I felt better.

Hey prisoner, you thrilled over this TH non-lynch?

Because I am.

indiglo wrote:How long has Golden been out of the game? It's at least been a couple of days or so, and I just looked and he is STILL the number 2 poster in the thread. That's bullshit too. Or actually, Goldenshit.

You know... number 2 poster...

I wanted to boo that, but I'm too exhausted not to laugh.