The Syndicate

Turnip Head wrote:Epi 2.0 looks worse to me with every post

Yeah, that would happen no matter what I did. Comes with the territory. I'm not sweating it.

Sloonei wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Black Rock wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Black Rock wrote:I hope the poll isn't over soonish. I'll address Epig then.
It isn't, but it doesn't seem to bother you that you may be addressing me after the poll is over.

Voted.
I'll always put family and work over a game. If this bothers you then voting for me is the right thing for you to do at this point. It doesn't make me bad, I just have my priorities in the right order. Dogging me won't make you look good.
I don't care about looking good.

I work and have a million projects going on, and I have in-laws here who outnumber my family. I just made a delicious lasagna. Everyone has real life. Nobody here is a robot. So none of that matters to me in the context of this game, as none of it has any bearing on what role PM you got. I am not saying you are bad because you aren't posting a lot or posting when I want you to. I think you know that.

What DOES make you look bad:

I've been bad with you a few times recently and I am detecting some similarities.

Your posts not posting (the only time I have ever had that happen to me was at work because someone swore up a storm right before I posted and so the work filter kicked in). Technological issues with no precedent on my end raise my eyebrow.

The way you word things are flaky.

You missed the Day 1 vote (Yes ma'am, I find that suspicious, not because you have a reason for missing it). I find the content of your posts Day 0 and Day 1 suspicious in conjunction with missing the vote.

Finally, defending yourself by:

Black Rock wrote:I'll always put family and work over a game. If this bothers you then voting for me is the right thing for you to do at this point. It doesn't make me bad, I just have my priorities in the right order. Dogging me won't make you look good.
Anybody with work and family and good sense can say this.

Doesn't make you good.

And no, dogging you doesn't make me look bad.
I think this post is a pretty good illustration of the change I've perceived between Epi 1 and Epi 2. You give a lot of reasons to be suspicious of Black Rock here, but I'm not seeing many places in your post history where you back it up or point to actual "flakiness" or similarities to past games. This does case does not feel as convincing (or convinced) as your previous ones. Does anyone else perceive these or other differences in Epi's posts?
How would you respond, Epi?

I don't have the same role I used to have.

How about that bombshell?

Black Rock wrote:Epignosis, I find it very odd how your opinions haven't changed since you have a new role and you have completely switched gears. Bass your teammate?

How have I completely switched gears? My #1 suspect has enough votes to do him in, I think. I am therefore free to pursue other suspicions, and you are it.

Black Rock wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Black Rock wrote:I hope the poll isn't over soonish. I'll address Epig then.
It isn't, but it doesn't seem to bother you that you may be addressing me after the poll is over.

Voted.
I'll always put family and work over a game. If this bothers you then voting for me is the right thing for you to do at this point. It doesn't make me bad, I just have my priorities in the right order. Dogging me won't make you look good.

I don't care about looking good.

I work and have a million projects going on, and I have in-laws here who outnumber my family. I just made a delicious lasagna. Everyone has real life. Nobody here is a robot. So none of that matters to me in the context of this game, as none of it has any bearing on what role PM you got. I am not saying you are bad because you aren't posting a lot or posting when I want you to. I think you know that.

What DOES make you look bad:

I've been bad with you a few times recently and I am detecting some similarities.

Your posts not posting (the only time I have ever had that happen to me was at work because someone swore up a storm right before I posted and so the work filter kicked in). Technological issues with no precedent on my end raise my eyebrow.

The way you word things are flaky.

You missed the Day 1 vote (Yes ma'am, I find that suspicious, not because you have a reason for missing it). I find the content of your posts Day 0 and Day 1 suspicious in conjunction with missing the vote.

Finally, defending yourself by:

Black Rock wrote:I'll always put family and work over a game. If this bothers you then voting for me is the right thing for you to do at this point. It doesn't make me bad, I just have my priorities in the right order. Dogging me won't make you look good.

Anybody with work and family and good sense can say this.

Doesn't make you good.

And no, dogging you doesn't make me look bad.

Black Rock wrote:I hope the poll isn't over soonish. I'll address Epig then.

It isn't, but it doesn't seem to bother you that you may be addressing me after the poll is over.

Voted.

fingersplints wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
fingersplints wrote:
Golden wrote:splints, what do you make of that comment by epi. Does he have any reason you can think of to presume you wouldn't suspect BR early?
I assumed he was making a joke since I obviously went after BR pretty hard super early in the last game.

Probably shouldn't make assumptions with Epi though
Wasn't a joke. After I died, I didn't follow the last game much.

I raised a point about Black Rock, which is why I suspect her. I haven't heard from her (or anybody) about it.
I suspected BR that game before you died though. That's why I thought it was a joke. Anyways to answer your previous question then, yes I would and have been suspicious of BR early in a game.

I wasn't paying attention to you.

And that's all I wanted to know!

fingersplints wrote:
Golden wrote:splints, what do you make of that comment by epi. Does he have any reason you can think of to presume you wouldn't suspect BR early?
I assumed he was making a joke since I obviously went after BR pretty hard super early in the last game.

Probably shouldn't make assumptions with Epi though

Wasn't a joke. After I died, I didn't follow the last game much.

I raised a point about Black Rock, which is why I suspect her. I haven't heard from her (or anybody) about it.

fingersplints wrote:I don't think BR is suspicious atm.

Would you ever be suspicious of Black Rock early in a game?

I find it ironic that people bemoan that it's the LC-Cobalt thing, but when some of us raise points about other people, they're mum.

I'd support lynching Black Rock.

Sloonei wrote:How many teachers do we have here? I've got one semester left of school before I graduate and start looking for work as an English teacher. Is mafia just the thing all the cool teachers do?

No, teaching is just the thing all the cool mafia players do.

Golden wrote:I'd really like to get a few people's views on Black Rock.

I was hoping I'd wake up to BR's response to my questions.

Since people are voting already, I'll explain what's on my mind:

On this forum, if you leave an unpublished post in a tab for too long, it will say something to the effect of "The submitted form is no longer valid" or "This page has expire; please refresh." I forget the exact wording, but I know it has happened from time to time to me. It's no big deal: You hit F5 and your content is still there.

But Black Rock made it sound like posting what she did was an accident, like she had the wrong tab open or something (one that was left up for 12 hours?). Plus the "I forgot to press submit once and came back 12 hours later to see my post sitting there and then it got caught up in linkitis and then I failed" doesn't make sense from a technical standpoint.

Cobalt wrote:Light to moderate scum read on Scotty. As Turnip Head pointed out earlier, the Epi kill was most likely designed to keep the attention on myself and Long Con today. Scotty said that my lynch would be the MOST beneficial today, and seems to be trying to reinforce that attention staying on me rather than elsewhere.

Epignosis wrote:
Cobalt wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Cobalt wrote:If you guys really want to lynch me go ahead, we'll get answers either way.
What are the questions?
I assume people would try and determine the validity of my suspicion on Long Con and others I've posted about if/when I flip civilian. Other than that, a definitive flip of me shows the point of view I posted from. For example, if I flipped mafia, you would be more inclined to think my strongest scum reads were civilian unless I threw a buddy in there to soft clear them. If I flipped civilian, you might be inclined to trust my instincts and lynch one of my scum reads. Depends on the situation and the group we're playing with, because I don't know them very well.
Isn't that the case when anybody gets lynched though? You're not saying anything meaningful here.
Yes, but given that I have been at the forefront of a lot of mess involving me and Long Con, it's the most prominent mess to get out of the way, if you choose to lynch me today. What I meant was that those things will be applied specifically to my situation.

I don't really get what you're asking here, can you clarify?

It's a mess you started and continue to perpetuate.

You said "we" would get answers from lynching you. When I asked what the questions were, you named every possibility in the book, as though we couldn't know this without you saying them.

My point being: You saying "We'll get answers" is meaningless because that's true regarding lynching anyone. Lynch me right now (if you could) and you'll get "answers." But those answers will only be as useful as the question.

Cobalt wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Cobalt wrote:If you guys really want to lynch me go ahead, we'll get answers either way.
What are the questions?
I assume people would try and determine the validity of my suspicion on Long Con and others I've posted about if/when I flip civilian. Other than that, a definitive flip of me shows the point of view I posted from. For example, if I flipped mafia, you would be more inclined to think my strongest scum reads were civilian unless I threw a buddy in there to soft clear them. If I flipped civilian, you might be inclined to trust my instincts and lynch one of my scum reads. Depends on the situation and the group we're playing with, because I don't know them very well.

Isn't that the case when anybody gets lynched though? You're not saying anything meaningful here.

Cobalt wrote:If you guys really want to lynch me go ahead, we'll get answers either way.

What are the questions?

Black Rock wrote:Oh crap, that was the post that never went through and I got pissed off and said screw it.

Well, maybe I'll get his attention now.

What post never went through and you said "screw it?" This one?

Black Rock wrote:I might vote for TH this time. He didn't even give me a roll eyes, likely he doesn't want to get me charged up and wants to stay under the radar. Under the radar is exactly how I feel he is playing this game.

I'm confused. Is that post what you were referring to when you said this?

Black Rock wrote:I am so sorry about my lack of communication day 1. I tried to post a couple of times. I forgot to press submit once and came back 12 hours later to see my post sitting there and then it got caught up in linkitis and then I failed. That's what I get for rushing about. My schedule is a lot more open for the next couple of weeks so I will have time for Mafia.

Long Con wrote:Ninjablooper is still a bit of a mystery to me, I have to read her on a game-by-game basis still. Not usually the driving force behind the thread currents, but I wonder whether she posts "safe" posts more as a Civ or baddie?

Ninjablooper is the most consistent player I have ever seen in terms of posting content and tone. To catch her, you will you need to scrutinize her votes, not her posts.

She gets more nervous when it comes down to voting.

Golden wrote:Don't yet know what to make of epi 2.0

Scotty wrote:The unfortunate aspect of this kind of game is the people that don't post have nothing for us to base an opinion off of except their curious absence. So as we go along, do we vote for them because of their non-participation, or keep pushing for the most suspicious opinionated people?

I will tell you from my (hosting) experience that Mafia almost always tend to consist of quiet people, even if only one or two. Whether they are naturally quiet or doing so on purpose, they are quiet all the same, and they coast. The rub comes when anyone seriously suggests lynching a low poster. There are some here who will suspect you right away for doing so, which I think encourages low(er) participation.

After all I've seen, I never criticize wanting to lynch a low poster. If the low-poster is Mafia, you catch a killer and show him that coasting isn't a viable strategy. If the low-poster is a civilian, then he wasn't helping anyway, so you make him helpful in getting to see how people chose to vote the person off.

My two cents. I'm off to my uncle's birthday cookout.

Scotty wrote:Epi, can we ask about your role in Epi 1.0 or are you supposed to claim ignorance?

You can ask, but I doubt I'm supposed to say anything.

He was busy selecting an electric violin for purchase, which will be here Monday.

My opinions haven't changed. I see no need to post them again.

Epignosis wrote:Enrique. Cobalt.

Daddy's back.

And...not surprised.

Exit stage right. Again.

Someone is out to kill me fuck all yall.

Golden wrote:@epi - you think he is claiming independent? I think he is trying to claim unlynchable.

If he did, he just bought himself a Night kill express ticket.

You're now claiming independent. I get it. If that's true, then are you "salty" about lynching S~V~S?

Cobalt wrote:
Epignosis wrote:I'll make it plain for Cobe Bryant.

You had your chance to lynch Long Con. You didn't take it.

You gave a real life excuse for not voting Long Con (which I don't care about and no one should because you could have left your vote where it was).

You pledge your vote to Long Con at Night.

You try to make yourself seem threatening, which, let's be real, ain't happening.

Come on now.

Cobalt wrote:Fact remains that I'm coming for Long Con's head on a silver platter come the next day phase. If you want to try to come for mine, go for it.
No, no no.

You had your chance. I don't care what you do at this point. If Long Con is bad, you get no credit for it.

And yes, I'm coming for yours.
You're kind of a dick. But I don't really care. I'm going for Long Con anyway. So I missed my chance, sorry.

Kind of?

You're his teammate. I'd rather lynch you first now.

I'll make it plain for Cobe Bryant.

You had your chance to lynch Long Con. You didn't take it.

You gave a real life excuse for not voting Long Con (which I don't care about and no one should because you could have left your vote where it was).

You pledge your vote to Long Con at Night.

You try to make yourself seem threatening, which, let's be real, ain't happening.

Come on now.

Cobalt wrote:Fact remains that I'm coming for Long Con's head on a silver platter come the next day phase. If you want to try to come for mine, go for it.

No, no no.

You had your chance. I don't care what you do at this point. If Long Con is bad, you get no credit for it.

And yes, I'm coming for yours.

I just wonder who can taste the salt.

Come on Cobalt. You're not as scary as you sound.

Cobalt wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Cobalt wrote:I won't be mislynched this game.
I'm sure you won't.
Not because I'm not civilian, but for other reasons. You'll see.

Meh.

S~V~S said she was a civilian too.

She wasn't.

And I voted no. I hate reading.

Cobalt wrote:I won't be mislynched this game.

I'm sure you won't.

Cobalt wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Cobalt wrote: Sue me.
I'd rather vote you. As you said, you don't have any cheese.
Trust me.

I would LOVE to see you vote me.

Why?

You've never been mislynched, right? You said so yourself.

I'm all for keeping your record.

Cobalt wrote: Sue me.

I'd rather vote you. As you said, you don't have any cheese.

Cobalt wrote:Epi, got something to say to me? I can practically TASTE your salt.

I do all the cooking at my home. "Salt" is an ingredient.

Processing salt is also an important chemical reaction for human life.

You know what else is an important process for human life?

Processing shit.

You are shitting.

And I ain't tasting that.

Cobalt wrote:
Gumshoe wrote:
nutella wrote:@ sloonei LC said he wouldn't be around (a factor in my picking Cobalt over him).
This caught my eye. Is this true? Because apparently he was waiting and watching the poll without posting as he swooped in last second to finish off SVS.
That's why I want him gone.

Good job making that happen.

Except, according to you, you weren't even around when LC voted.

Cobalt wrote:Not a civ. Goodie.

Long Con tomorrow? I had to help my sister put the kids to bed cuz she's really sick, and then I got a little distracted. Wasn't around towards the end, or I probably would have moved my vote back to LC.

Anybody have anything they want me to answer, go for it.

Please don't bring real life or sick people into this. I won't entertain it.

And all this fuss and squall about a tie.

How do you vote for your damn self and someone else call it a defense?

nutella wrote:SVS's self vote I think constituted at least something of a defense (although it was more of an acceptance of her still-uncertain fate), worked for me anyway.

sig wrote:@Epi really I have never seen a role that does that it.

That's because I invented it.

Who killed Dom??

Poll runs till Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:19 pm
You may select 1 option

Bass The Clever
0
No votes

BirdwithTeeth11
0
No votes

Black Rock
0
No votes

Bullzeye
0
No votes

Cobalt
4
TinyBubbles (5), Scotty (6), Sloonei (13), timmer (19)
19%

Devin
0
No votes

DFaraday
0
No votes

Dragon D. Luffy
0
No votes

DREAM
0
No votes

Epignosis
0
No votes

Fingersplints
0
No votes

Golden
1
Canucklehead (12)
5%

Gumshoe
0
No votes

Hedgeowl
1
Golden (15)
5%

Long Con
4
Metalmarsh89 (2), Epignosis (8), Turnip Head (18), nijuukyugou (20)
19%

MetalMarsh89
0
No votes

MovingPictures07
0
No votes

Neverwhere
0
No votes

nijuukyugou
0
No votes

Nutella
0
No votes

Scotty
0
No votes

sig
0
No votes

Sloonei
0
No votes

SVS
6
MovingPictures07 (9), nutella (10), DFaraday (11), S~V~S (14), Cobalt (16), sig (21)
29%

Timmer
0
No votes

TinyBubbles
0
No votes

Turnip Head
0
No votes

XthAtGAm3RGuYX
1
XthAtGAm3RGuYX (17)
5%

Trick question, IT WAS LLAMA!!! [dead/non]
4
Dom (1), Heiots (3), Roxy (4), juliets (7)
19%

Total votes : 21

SAVE OR BUS

Come on Mafia

sig wrote:MAFIA IS MOST LIKELY TO TIE THE VOTE

I don't agree. In my full games I host, I have a role that breaks ties. It's always a civilian that does it.

nijuukyugou wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
nijuukyugou wrote:
Epignosis wrote:You look stupid.
Who?
You bitch.
Your face is stupid.

I know. Damn parents.

nijuukyugou wrote:
Epignosis wrote:You look stupid.
Who?

You bitch.

You look stupid.

Sloonei wrote:Cobalt can tie it back up by switching to Long Con.

I don't think he plans to do that. I think he's shown his hand already.

I'm going to harp on this:

Long Con had three votes: MM, Cobalt, Epi

S~V~S had three votes: MP, nutella, DFaraday

Tied.

S~V~S votes her damn self.

Colby-Jack says the LC vote has lost traction, so he's changing his vote to S~V~S.

Cobalt wrote:Due to all that has been said about SVS, I am on board with an SVS lynch if that's the way it goes today. Keeping my vote on Long Con for now until a few more are willing to commit to a vote elsewhere.

"I pretended to have a conviction, but I'm going to bandwagon anyway as soon as someone has one more vote than LC."

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